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Seems that way, doesn't it? I mean, if we were to imagine what sort of behaviours Trump would practice if - "hypothetically speaking" - Putin was dire...

That's chock full of meaning. If you'll forgive my sudden poetic license; it seems that you're setting out 'layers' of the individual significance and...

And yet I painstakingly set the difference out between common language and "common language". In short, the latter consists of meaningful marks, where...

Okay. Good. Our positions may not be as far apart as I thought earlier. I've no issue with any of that. Right. Agreed. No worries. I cannot see how "w...

Terminological frameworks are pivotal. Seems to me that there's a bit of phenomenalism/idealism in the background of your view. Is that correct? On yo...

You were quite right about the differences in our viewpoints pertaining the above and what immediately preceded it. The map/territory distinction seem...

Well, one aspect of the paper highlighted how we can sometimes say the wrong words(malapropisms) and be understood, nonetheless. Hence, when your coun...

Understood. No worries. I get it. While this is an interesting discussion, in the big picture - for me anyway - it's a spare time activity, and life c...

Good to know. Thanks. Here is one of those times when someone(me) falsely assumes their own personal experience is shared by everyone else far more th...

Seems to me that the history of 'civilization' has always treated those with disabilities as if they did not belong in the same places as 'normal' peo...

Well put. The context makes it crystal clear.

Yes. The key element being "well-developed". However, some other animals have a theory of mind, just not nearly as well-developed as ours. Ours is one...

Yup. It's fairly clear that some pack mammals have some thought about what other members are feeling/thinking.

You sure about that?

Okay. I think what you're calling "matness from a feline point-of-view" is what I talk about in terms of the meaningfulness of the mat to the cat(how ...

Understood. Abstraction is necessary here. I would say uniquely human as well. I was skirting around something that is better stated outright. Avoidin...

I am uneasy with the mapping of propositions onto language less creatures' thought. Propositions are utterly meaningless to language less creatures. T...

I'm reminded of Davidson's paper "A Nice Derangement Of Epitaphs". If you're not familiar, it may interest you. There's also an older thread on this s...

I do not necessarily disagree. Nice. The suggestion makes 3 follow from 1 and 2(assuming "counts as" and "is classified as" mean the same thing). As i...

There's so much more to cover. No time. Until next time! :smile:

Nice recent additions. I think we're doing just fine. Well, you're doing way better than just fine. I say this in light of a few self-doubts you've ex...

I'll address the rest of your last reply next time. I wish I would've skipped the bit above and went straight to the rest. :blush: Thank you for the i...

Thank you for that. I appreciate the effort. I think it has been helpful. No need to apologize though. I'm not offended, and do not take this personal...

Bullshit. You're too much. You claimed Reagan's policies produced stability. Again. I call bullshit. We must be measuring very different things. Now, ...

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Well, no. I meant what I said. Although, your point is taken, and those years were definitely far more beneficial to whites than minorities. That's be...

You think? Crashes and all, huh? Those are signs of stability? I think not. Evidently, we're measuring different things. The stability of everyday wor...

Indeed. The underlying concept/notion/idea is hard at work in each of our contributions. Setting that out in a way that makes sense regarding of all t...

Well, I'm talking about the idea of existential dependency upon language use but not gravity because the former is relevant to our process of understa...

As if minimizing the number of downtrodden while increasing the amount of Americans with plenty of spendable income somehow does not result in tremend...

What's the difference between using the English language and using the English language like one knows it is a nominative-accusative language? I origi...

I see. So, how does this notion of behavioural implicature deal with the fact that behaviour alone is indeterminate regarding that? I mean, for exampl...

I didn't see it that way at all. You do not look foolish to me. Becoming aware of our own false belief seems like an accomplishment. I mean, we're all...

And yet, it's an answer, not a question. The question was to what degree "language needs to be involved" in belief formation. I answered as clearly an...

Would you care to set this disjunct out a bit more?

Okay. That's good. I would think that any acceptable notion/conception/theory of "meaning" would be capable of setting out how things become meaningfu...

Is that the only two options: Either native English speakers know that English is a nominative-accusative language, or linguists are wrong in some way...

Hmmm. Is that something like a performative contradiction? I'm fairly certain I do not quite understand the point being made here. I'm curious about t...

Okay. So, it is not the case that beliefs might all be prelinguistic. Propositional attitudes are beliefs. I invoked belief as propositional attitude ...

To the degree that the content therein is existentially dependent upon language.

If I understand this correctly, I'd agree that the importance that the mat plays in the cat's thought and/or belief is determined by its relevance to ...

Yes. That sounds about right, but I do not find that any of this is inevitably contradictory to what I've been saying, although it could be in its und...

I'll address your response sometime tomorrow. Looks promising to me in many ways. :smile:

Yes, we certainly do. I think that those differences could be causal in nature in a certain sense similar to what the OP has been talking about. All o...

Indeed, it is. I've found that this particular pursuit can challenge one's basic ontological underpinnings in unfamiliar ways that can result in cogni...

All sounds fine with me. All looks fine here as well. Hopefully "the line" is a bit better understood after the past couple posts. Sure. I've no probl...

I don't know if I understand the first question, but I think you're asking something along the lines of how meaningful the mat is to the cat. That wou...

It seems to me that "Some thought relies on language" is undeniable. The content of some language less thought relies on language as well. Hence, such...

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Nice additions. I'd like to give your post the attention it deserves. That's my intent... Manana!