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The problem with the analysis is that it misses the distinction between forms and particulars. It is the form that cannot admit its opposite and so "f...
July 09, 2021 at 13:22
I think there are two reasons one might believe. The first is intellectual and in my opinion not a good reason to believe. It is, however, the reason ...
July 08, 2021 at 23:48
It is a difficult book and not one I would recommend to someone looking for general works on ethics, but to say it has no ethics in it is wrong. Altho...
July 08, 2021 at 23:34
In: Bannings  — view comment
I was a moderator on another forum. Its a thankless job, except in cases like this when someone says thank you - so, thank you. There are cases where ...
July 08, 2021 at 17:01
I think so as well. Perhaps he will defend the claim.
July 08, 2021 at 16:38
Rather than dismiss one of the greatest works of philosophy, it would be more sensible and modest to ask the question of why a book titled "Ethics" se...
July 08, 2021 at 16:30
As it is being used by 180 I take it to mean that what it being divided in terms of two different substances is actually a distinction between propert...
July 08, 2021 at 15:30
If I understand him correctly, by "supernatural" Hanover means non-physical: And so, emotions, inner thoughts, phenomenological states, and one's full...
July 08, 2021 at 15:25
Still trying! You know nothing about Strauss' work and never will unless you actually read him rather than read about him by those who do not understa...
July 08, 2021 at 13:13
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
Just the other day I found this website https://voegelinview.com/ and have referred to it couple of times already. It contains some very good essays. ...
July 07, 2021 at 17:30
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
There are noticeable differences between the earlier and later dialogues, but the question of whether his thinking is marked by different periods is c...
July 07, 2021 at 17:10
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
It is telling that you do not have enough confidence in your own arguments to let them stand, or fall, as the case may be.
July 07, 2021 at 15:43
We should recognize the difference between knowledge and belief, but this does not settle the matter. For some, like Kant, lack of knowledge leaves ro...
July 07, 2021 at 15:29
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
The question is why Socrates? If this is Plato's images of the truth then why not put them in the mouth of a stranger? After all, a stranger plays a r...
July 07, 2021 at 15:06
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
This raises the question of what Plato is up to when he has Socrates tell stories of transcendent knowledge. Platonists take these stories to be revea...
July 07, 2021 at 14:09
First, we should not expect reality to accord with the way we understand things. The way we understand things changes over time. Second, substance dua...
July 07, 2021 at 13:41
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
His defense in the Apology was his "human wisdom" his knowledge of his ignorance. He also said that the oracle proclaimed that no one was wiser than S...
July 07, 2021 at 13:25
He knows nothing about Strauss or "Straussians" or his students who do not call themselves Straussias, and yet he is ready to dismiss generations of s...
July 07, 2021 at 13:16
Right. That is my point. Someone who posits substance dualism must first provide an argument with enough merit in order to expect someone else to argu...
July 06, 2021 at 22:26
In that case there would be good reason to argue against countless claims regardless of whether they have any merit or not.
July 06, 2021 at 22:17
I have had this happen a number of times, although I think that sometimes they may be unaware of it. They are so busy arguing against you they do not ...
July 06, 2021 at 18:11
But if you are not convinced that there is something in what is said worth stealing you wouldn't. As I see it, it is not so much a matter of convincin...
July 06, 2021 at 16:43
I am asking why you think it is necessary to argue against a claim for which there is not good reason to think it might be true
July 06, 2021 at 16:37
From Salman Rushdie:
July 06, 2021 at 16:21
No need to deny what has not been shown to be something that should be accepted. Suppose I was to say that there are three substances. Does that mean ...
July 06, 2021 at 16:01
Point taken. Nothing is proven. It is more a matter of making an argument persuasive enough to convince someone to accept that there must be two subst...
July 06, 2021 at 15:54
If someone posits the existence of something the burden is on them. Because they posit it does not mean that it becomes something that others must sho...
July 06, 2021 at 15:40
If someone posits the existence of two fundamental substances in order to account for the difference between mind and body, then the burden is on them...
July 06, 2021 at 15:28
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
When you close your eyes the evidence cannot be seen. It is all right here for anyone who might read it to make up their own mind.
July 06, 2021 at 13:39
Round and round you go. Ignoring my answers, refusing to read an author because he was around in the 30's, and, most significantly, ignoring Plato whe...
July 06, 2021 at 13:32
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
I don't just say so, we have a record of it across several threads. You have shown yourself to be just as ridiculous as Euthyphro.
July 06, 2021 at 13:22
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
You read Plato as if it was revealed religion. In order to maintain the illusion and protect your beliefs you ignore everything in the text that is a ...
July 06, 2021 at 12:56
You read Plato as if it was revealed religion. In order to maintain the illusion and protect your beliefs you ignore everything in the text that is a ...
July 06, 2021 at 12:54
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
Yes. You have stated your opinion several times now. I have explained why I think you are mistaken. If anyone is reading this and is interested they c...
July 05, 2021 at 23:50
Socrates says and I am quoting from the Republic: First you tried to explain this away, but now you just ignore it. In the Republic he says it is not ...
July 05, 2021 at 23:42
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
He does not deny it. Too bad you were not around to tell Socrates and the court and Plat and Xenophon and others that.
July 05, 2021 at 23:15
And, as I quoted, it does not include the bad. This is why the dialogue needs to be read as a whole not as isolated statements. Do you really not unde...
July 05, 2021 at 21:23
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
I see you still do not understand. If the Good and God mean the same thing the whole question of atheism becomes meaningless.
July 05, 2021 at 21:05
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
No, that is what you assume I am saying. I have told you many times that it is not. But you ignore what I say and make up something you think you can ...
July 05, 2021 at 19:00
The Good as described in the Republic does not contain all other things. There are bad things in the world. They cannot be explained away as privation...
July 05, 2021 at 18:56
Some start with God as the default position and think that the opinions are either accept or rule it out. Others simply find no compelling reason to r...
July 05, 2021 at 18:27
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
He does not affirm the existence of gods either. The question of Socrates atheism is made explicit in the Apology (26c )with the distinction between n...
July 05, 2021 at 18:16
Are you claiming that they all name the same or that we can pick the one we like? When the meaning of terms does not matter then it is all just arbitr...
July 05, 2021 at 16:58
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
Faith is the absence of knowledge. You are talking about something you know nothing about. Socrates does not explicitly deny the existence of gods, he...
July 05, 2021 at 16:42
That is precisely why the distinction between Plato and Platonism is important. Aristotle's unmoved mover is not to be found anywhere in Plato. In add...
July 05, 2021 at 16:19
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
So the story goes, but Socrates, despite having told the story, denies having seen the Forms. Plato never introduces anyone else in the dialogues who ...
July 05, 2021 at 16:10
In terms of the present discussion, neither form of dualism is about what is higher. Both have something to do with the facts of the world and the rep...
July 05, 2021 at 15:55
If you knew the anything about Strauss you would know that. He provides a careful, detailed interpretation of the dialogues and leaves it up to the re...
July 05, 2021 at 15:48
In: Euthyphro  — view comment
Are you claiming to have divine wisdom, to have seen the Forms themselves? Faith does not mean knowledge. Socratic philosophy is driven by the recogni...
July 05, 2021 at 15:42
Yes, I said as much. I also said that over the years his views have become far more widely accepted. Of course he did not demonstrate that! You really...
July 05, 2021 at 15:28