Reply to praxis
In many ways, and places, wind, as mechanical energy, offers a better source for power than solar. Tesla claimed to have figured a way to harness the power of the static electricity created by particles in the air rubbing against each other. That's what causes lightning. He was dismissed as having gone crazy by that time, but he was a genius, and invented AC electricity, though he probably made some enemies along the way.
I found a place in Indiana where you can buy cigs at state minimum price. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1169198,-86.9777482,3a,75y,60.84h,89.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_lFF8X0DWHoLUHq-JJeL3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
what sort of half-baked renaissance doesn’t have valet parking
Good point. I think the important thing is to commission a tapestry or embroidery to commemorate the event. I'm hoping that Tracey Emin will oblige. Parking problems could be one of the themes.
Reply to Cuthbert God knows Indiana needs a renaissance. But then, so do 1001 other post-empire agglomerations of peasant hovels, many of them selling cigs well above state minimum prices. Iowa, for example; it's just tragic.
I got one of my every-so-often emails from our friend Marco trying to get me to help him open an account. I see that an "invitation code" is required to join now. Thanks a lot Marco you little twerp.
How do people with a legitimate interest in the forum get a code? I see there are a few recent new members.
Reply to T Clark Can a new member be not recent, or a recently joined member not be a new member?
There was a radio station in Toronto that specialized in new music. And at Christmas time in Toronto all stations played for 48 hours (minus commercials time) the best of their genre. So this "new music" station declared ahead of Christmas, that they will play "the best new music of all times."
Reply to Noble Dust Great idea. That's a bus, right? As in "...boarded a Greyhound in Pittsburg", Simon and Garfunkel. But it reminds me we need to check valet parking and dog-friendly facilities.
Reply to Amity True. Perhaps Scottish intellectuals were more inclined to share cutlery with France. Perhaps this new Enlightenment can be a fresh start in so many ways.
Reply to Amity OK. I'm flippant. But please understand I was not trying to be flippant at the expense of anyone. If anything it was a big-up to Scotland. Intended to be, anyhow. :flower:
OK. I'm flippant. But please understand I was not trying to be flippant at the expense of anyone. If anything it was a big-up to Scotland. Intended to be, anyhow.
Hell's teeth. I wasn't getting at you. Did I sound like a school marm? :yikes:
I love the way the Shoutbox works sometimes to lighten the load.
The humour is appreciated.
It can also be a springboard for ideas that perhaps could do with more attention.
Your thoughts and questions intrigued me.
That's all...
Note to self: Work on communication skills :nerd:
The Department of Undue Diligence has determined that the only people who use "woke" as a term of abuse are minute men, Southerners who, lacking the cod of their Northern counterparts, had to resort to sardines. It is a testament to the fecundity and patience of the Southern Belles that these minuscule men have not become extinct.
Reply to Benkei If they'd used fresh ones, I bet they'd have been wide-awake too! The Celts always used a live ferret - guaranteed to excite the ladies, but the practice was banned by Ethelred the Unready as giving them an unfair advantage.
Sea cucumbers are the only sea life that could adequately stand in for my man flesh. They are echinoderms from the class Holothuroidea. They have leathery skin, an elongated body, are very independently willed, and are remarkably rewarding to pet.
Good morning friends. It is 07:55 AM. Exactly, this new post would make the number of 1.666 posts.
Do you believe in demons and related stuff?
666 is connected with the number of the beast!
In most manuscripts of the New Testament and in English translations of the Bible, the number of the beast is six hundred sixty-six or ??? (in Greek numerals, ? represents 600, ? represents 60 and ? represents 6).
In a quick read in Wikipedia it says the following about 666 interpretation:
The beast's identity and the beast's number are usually interpreted by applying one of three methods:
Using gematria to find the numbers that equate to the names of world leaders, to check for a match with the scriptural number.
Treating the number of the beast as a duration of time.
Linking the scriptural imagery and symbolism of the Antichrist with characteristics of world leaders who oppose Christianity.
Curious: what, from experience, are some of your favorite trees (that you’ve planted— in your yard or elsewhere)?
I’m looking to plant three trees within the year. I live in New Hampshire. Want to jazz things up a little. Leaning towards a Japanese cherry blossom. Anyone have any suggestions?
I love dogwoods. Great flowers and nice looking tree.
Lindens, also called lime trees. No flowers, but their leaves are dark green and the heads are very full and lush. To me, they're about the treeist tree around.
Lindens, also called lime trees. No flowers, but their leaves are dark green and the heads are very full and lush. To me, they're about the treeist tree around.
Great trees, linden trees. They're good to sit under on hot summer days.
I apologize with all my heart for my absence, please know that I am deeply sorry.
I have no valid explanation other than I have had nothing positive to say about anything in life.
It is not fair, I know, I humbly ask for your grace.
I was the one that Dad called the police on because the verbal abuse Mom was enduring could not continue. Dad and I had our last stand and when the firefighters took him to Hospice giving Mom and I respit for 5 days, I knew he would never be back in his home, my parents home. It continued until the end. Such a horrible way to pass...facing death on Haladol is no way to cease living.
I was the one who went with Mom to pick up Dad's ashes and when we got home we brought Dad inside and she showed me where she wanted Dad's ashes, I had to climb a ladder with Dad. Cleaning off the top of the cabinet that gets dusted once a year, I realized that I was in the same physical place I had been in, where Dad made his last stand in life against me. Now I am putting him in a box of ashes on top of the cabinet, in the very place he last was, because of me.
Mom said that what happened allowed her to be his wife and no longer his caretaker/nurse. Dad never left Hospice. I fed him his last meal of his life the day he died. Macaroni and cheese, Diet Coke and ice cream for dessert.
I'm walking in a fog and not sure how to make it play out faster.
All of this while I am still in the divorce process, living STILL here at the ranch and am being deposed on Tuesday.
I know life issues fair but I need to catch a break....
Hence why I am not around because I can't burden others with this
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff
The fact you can type out some of your thoughts and feelings here makes you a strong person in my view.
I hope things get better for you soon and all your friends rally around you.
I haven’t planted any trees in the concrete “backyard” behind my apartment building that I can access by hunching over and walking through a dirt floor basement filled with old office chairs, but if I did I would plant beech trees.
Hence why I am not around because I can't burden others with this
Don't worry. Please feel free to express your feelings here. I will read your comments and thoughts.
To be honest, I don't know how to help but only to listen carefully what you want to express. All you have written previously is very brave and I see it as a good choice instead of isolating yourself (this is usually worse).
I am sorry for the loss of your dad. I know it is not easy to deal with parents and other members of family. The situation can end up very chaotic if there are some differences among the members.
I understand your phrase: "it continued to the end" because my grandfather (an alcoholic) continued his bad actions until his end...
I think dogwoods are pretty easy. My wife planted one in our yard and it's grown well for decades with little maintenance required. I don't know anything about lindens, but they are a pretty common landscape tree here in Massachusetts.
Here's my linden tree philosophy of science story. In a funny way it's changed the way I think about the world and the way we know it. It's one of the reasons I like lindens so much.
If you go under most trees when the sun's out, you'll see dapples where the sunlight comes through the leaves - circular or oblong fuzzy patches of light. Under a linden, because their heads are so tightly packed, there are fewer dapples, but they are better defined. On a day when a total solar eclipse was predicted, I went out into the area outside my office building to take a look with protective lenses. When the sun was about half covered, I walked under the shade of a linden. When I looked down, each of it's dapples, dozens, was a circular patch of light half covered by darkness. I'm not sure if I've ever been more surprised. It struck me like a gong. Dapples under trees are not little patches of light. They are, all of them, little images of the sun. I think about this every time I go under a tree when the suns out. It still amazes me.
I’m looking to plant three trees within the year. I live in New Hampshire. Want to jazz things up a little.
I'm considering this where I am too. Generally I go for evergreens and Australian natives - given my location. But I am very partial to Japanese Maples.
Reply to XtrixReply to Tom Storm You might try a North American Hornbeam - a hardwood related to birch. It's often used in landscaping, they say. The church across the street planted 2 disease-resistant elm trees 10 years ago which are doing well. Elm are great shade trees. I'd avoid bass -- I have one and its a very messy, though an attractive, tree. Silver maple (or Norway maple) grow rapidly and will mature in what... 40 to 60 years? They are kind of brittle when they get very big (which they will). Sugar maple, of course. Want a nut tree? Oak, walnut, beech, chestnut, butternut...
Ash trees are out of course, thanks to the emerald ash borer.
Honey locusts are a pretty good tree -- they have very small leaves that turn yellow in the fall. There are a lot of them along Minneapois streets. Avoid Black locust trees. They have horrendous 2 inch thorns. They would make a very good defensive hedge. They are considered invasive (even though they are a Native American tree. They will take over prairie and turn it into forest. Black locusts are prohibited in Massachusetts and Wisconsin, which gives you a clue.
There are a couple of cherry trees you might consider for their decorative quality -- the Amor Cherry and Siberian Cherry. The Amor is a fairly small tree with shiny brass colored bark. The Siberian is a larger tree (at least it was at the arboretum) and has shiny copper colored bark -- beautiful.
These are show trees; probably not very wind resistant. The Amor tree we planted split.
Reply to Bitter Crank Nice. We had a small orchard for many years in the hills near Melbourne. Dozens of nut trees, walnut, pecan, macadamia, hazel, chestnuts, three hundred year old elms, oaks, birch and many Eucalyptus trees of various kinds. I'll check out the Hornbeam - the photos on line look beautiful.
Reply to XtrixReply to Tom Storm Sorry - it's not the Siberian Cherry -- it's the Tibetan Cherry. I hope you didn't order the Siberian cherry already -- it doesn't seem to exist.
The US once had millions of elm trees shading the streets of cities and small towns, In 1937 a shipment of elm logs from France to Cleveland, Ohio arrived carrying the fungus. It reached Minnesota in the 1960s and by 1985 most of them were dead.
Why were the French shipping elm logs to the US in the first place? Pate foie gras I can see, but elm logs?
Reply to Bitter Crank We managed to save three beauties from the disease and our local government used to provide some arborist protections against elm beetle here every few years
Reply to Tom Storm So the French plotted to wipe out your elm trees too... I suspect cryptofascists. They were trying to turn the Allies against France.
No shit! Actually, several pestilential invasive insects have arrived exactly that way. Biological warfare, obviously. Nuke 'em. Oh wait... where will we get all our stuff afterwards?
The Bradford Pear is popular here because it grows rapidly and has white flowers that smell of semen. The problem with them is that the large limbs tend to break in storms, much like one of mine did recently. They are cheap landscaper trees that provide good cover until they die an early death. When the row of mine eventually die, I'll have to decide on another tree, but I will miss the smell of cum in the warm breeze. It so reminds me of Spring.
Reply to javi2541997 The signs, taken together, appear to be saying that whichever way you go, you'll be able to go in any direction, but if you stay on the road you're on, you'll also be able to go to Madrid, as well as being able to go in any direction. :chin:
Reply to Jamal That's right! It seems that if I would stay on the road I was on, I would be also able to go to Madrid because I was in a specific neighbourhood, called "Valdemoro" that's not Madrid city but the "comunidad autónoma" or the "county".
The sign was referring to that road leads us to the centre of Madrid :joke:
That's right! It seems that if I would stay on the road I was on, I would be also able to go to Madrid because I was in a specific neighbourhood, called "Valdemoro" that's not Madrid city but the "comunidad autónoma" or the "county".
The sign was referring to that road leads us to the centre of Madrid
I got one of my every-so-often emails from our friend Marco trying to get me to help him open an account. I see that an "invitation code" is required to join now. Thanks a lot Marco you little twerp.
How do people with a legitimate interest in the forum get a code? I see there are a few recent new members.
I think I forgot to reply to this. Forgive me.
Existing members can send an invitation to an email address by going to their profile > Edit profile > Invitations. I assume this sends an invitation code. A few of the new users were spam accounts, invited by a spam account that was created before we restricted registration. The others, I think, were people who got in touch via Facebook or something.
People who want to be members should also, ideally, be able to send an email to [email protected] to request an invitation, but that inbox has disappeared and I still haven't got around to setting it up again.
EDIT: email now fixed so they won't have to go to facebook to ask for an invitation.
Reply to Noble Dust They have to be invited. To ask for an invitation they'll have to find us on Facebook and ask there. Probably some people have been sending emails to request an invitation, but as I say I'm not getting those.
Once that's fixed and we pin a message about it on the main page, it'll be pretty good I think. I mean, once that's all in place, maybe we don't need to open things up again.
EDIT: email now fixed so they won't have to go to facebook to ask for an invitation.
They have to be invited. To ask for an invitation they'll have to find us on Facebook and ask there. Probably some people have been sending emails to request an invitation, but as I say I'm not getting those.
Once that's fixed and we pin a message about it on the main page, it'll be pretty good I think. I mean, once that's all in place, maybe we don't need to open things up again.
I don't get paid for doing DNS setup for TPF, and the email setup in particular is not critical for ongoing operation (though it's important, I know), and I'm fairly busy, and it's a hassle. Shoot me!
EDIT: email now fixed so people won't have to go to facebook to ask for an invitation.
I don't get paid for doing DNS setup for TPF, and it's not critical for ongoing operation (though it's important, I know), and I'm fairly busy, and it's a hassle. Shoot me!
Fixed it: our email inbox is now working. Thanks for forcing me to do it ND.
The problem was the nameservers and DNS for TPF have been spread between various locations at different times, including CloudFlare and 123-reg, and the email was going through Webfaction, which is now defunct. I had to bite the bullet and try and recall what was pointing where. As it happens I just had to add a few MX records to CloudFlare and set up forwarding to my everyday email address.
I'll add a message to the main page so that wannabe members know how to join.
This seems to be a pattern with me: (1) someone reminds me of something I have to do, (2) I get pissed off about being reminded, which might stem from a general dissatisfaction with myself, (3) I do it and everything is ok.
BTW I didn't set up the Facebook page and I don't maintain it or view it. ArguingWAristotleTiff does that I think.
This sounds strange.
I don't do Facebook, so I have no idea what the page looks like or what it says.
If it hasn't been set up by you, and you have nothing to do with it, then is there a disclaimer to that effect? If not, why not?
If it uses the same 'The Philosophy Forum' title and appearance, then is that not of concern?
Even if you agreed to this when it first started, I think it is confusing.
Why was it set up anyway?
To draw people here? Or to have an alternative site?
I note TPF has a copyright 2022.
How does this apply to the Facebook page?
I hope Facebook doesn't draw people away...to the detriment of the real TPF.
How many TPF posters go there regularly?
Just curious :chin:
To you and team:
Keep up the good work, y'all :hearts:
Reply to Amity@ArguingWAristotleTiff asked me if she could set it up, if I recall correctly. As she had a history of loyal involvement with PF, I said yes. There’s no problem with it that I can see.
Initially, the second post - understood as only it's peer and not saliently - touched me in such a way I almost moved - but I maintained a certain aptitude and managed to check and keep in sequent with mine.
From the great does the mother get its name, from the small doth the father, nameless beginning to unwind. So greatness is a burden, but it's greatness is not it's whole, it's carried by the soul where it bestowed.
Jamal:Seriously, why does everyone in my life complain that I'm not doing enough? Why is it always me that has to sort everything out?
Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.
Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
Scribbling on the sky the message He Is Dead,
Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.
He was my North, my South, my East and West,
My working week and my Sunday rest,
My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
I thought that love would last for ever: I was wrong.
The stars are not wanted now: put out every one;
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood;
For nothing now can ever come to any good.
Reply to T Clark I'd use it as my username if I were you, in honour of the great Brass Eye, in which Chris Morris invented a fictitious drug called "Clarky Cat". It always comes to mind when I see your name.
I'd use it as my username if I were you, in honour of the great Brass Eye, in which Chris Morris invented a fictitious drug called "Clarky Cat". It always comes to mind when I see your name.
BTW I didn't set up the Facebook page and I don't maintain it or view it. ArguingWAristotleTiff does that I think.
You are absolutely correct in that I asked to take over the Facebook page that was created during our transition from our old sandbox. I don't remember who set it up, it may have been me or Mayor of Simpleton as we were trying to give everyone the chance to get here if they wanted.
I am sorry for my lacking on the Facebook invitations. I ask for the grace of understanding that it took me weeks to tell you about my Dad's journey and I have been unable to open Facebook because I have not been able to share on my personal Facebook, what happened and what I am still embroiled in fielding a divorce unfolding.
I will log onto Facebook tomorrow and grab any messages from it and communicate with them if they are interested in joining.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Don't worry about it, our email address is working now and there's a pinned message on the main page. I mentioned Facebook only because when the email wasn't working, that was probably the only way people could get in touch.
Reply to Jamal So here's the problem. My brother sent me a picture of what appears to be a Jesus figure with multiple facial abnormalities, large open wounds, and some serious dental issues.
I don't do Facebook, so I have no idea what the page looks like or what it says.
If it hasn't been set up by you, and you have nothing to do with it, then is there a disclaimer to that effect? If not, why not?
If it uses the same 'The Philosophy Forum' title and appearance, then is that not of concern?
I don't do facebook either. Jamal should not have allowed it, in my opinion.
This is the arctic and its wildlife. The photography is quite stunning. This is another demonstration of animal superpowers. The arctic wolves grow their own two-layer coat to survive minus 40 degree temperature.
Reply to L'éléphant My superpower is the ability to find anything by Google. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatimes.com/amp/news/weird/these-11-humans-have-real-superpowers-that-even-science-can-t-explain-246123.html
Perhaps there are a few unspoken regrets about allowing it but what can be done in any case?
There are user agreements drafted by forum owners. Think of an operating agreement. There does not have to be a mark, but just a written agreement. While it is probably true that posters own their own posts (which is another reason why someone should not just copy the posts from here to facebook), the site itself is an intellectual property of the owner/s. It baffles me that someone could just open another copy of this forum in facebook and the owner of this site has no say in the matter. It's worrying.
(Also, while one may not think of selling this site in a million years, imagine if a third party came forward and wanted to buy it. Then, there's a copy in facebook which has not been authorized)
It baffles me that someone could just open another copy of this forum in facebook and the owner of this site has no say in the matter.
I don't use FaceBook either, don't like it, loathe Zuckerberg, etc. My understanding (based on some very old information is that some items are copied over. It isn't a mirror of this site (at least I hope not).
message @ArguingWAristotleTiff and ask her what is being done. I believe she is the one who started the posting on FaceBook.
In the first few months of this site, we were concerned about becoming visible on the web. I think we are now visible and don't need FaceBook's help, if it was any help. I would just as soon we had nothing to do with FB.
In the first few months of this site, we were concerned about becoming visible on the web. I think we are now visible and don't need FaceBook's help, if it was any help. I would just as soon we had nothing to do with FB.
I would just as soon we had nothing to do with FB.
I've never been active on the FB TPF page but I'm an admin and I don't mind deleting it. Looks like nothing is going on there. @ArguingWAristotleTiff, I don't think we need it any more, do you?
Reply to Jamal The site tries to load for about a minute and then times out. Occasionally, like now, it goes back to working fine, and then long periods of not being able to connect again.
It baffles me that someone could just open another copy of this forum in facebook and the owner of this site has no say in the matter. It's worrying.
It baffles me that you're worried. It was set up as a promotional page. There is no copy of TPF on Facebook.
To be fair, when I mentioned the Facebook page yesterday I forgot that it was probably me who created it when requested by Tiff. At least, I'm an admin and I can delete the page if we want.
Reply to Jamal About 2 or 3 days, I think. The first time I was able to access the site again I read about the new invite-only rule so I thought maybe it had to do with that.
Reply to Tzeentch We actually made it invite-only a couple of months ago but we just didn't announce it. The only new thing in the past day or two is that I've set up the email address after it had stopped working, and then posted a message about joining up.
Among those, the only thing that could have risked affecting access to the site is the DNS changes I had to make to set up the email, but all I did was add email records without changing the www records, so I'm pretty sure that's not the problem.
asked me if she could set it up, if I recall correctly. As she had a history of loyal involvement with PF, I said yes. There’s no problem with it that I can see.
Yes and my loyalty to my family here has not waivered. I humbly ask for two months before shutting down the Facebook page if it is not a problem.
It's not much in the scope of social media presence with 600+ followers but some only want to see the FB feed then be active here.
As in the beginning, it is not my choice to keep open or close the FB page but at the moment it is something I value, I have just been put in a position that my only way to communicate electronically is through my phone.
My classes start up again as the summer is almost over and I am working on resurrecting a laptop that right now is a brick.
I'm sorry for not being present, not just because of my lack on the Facebook page, but because I love many friends here and I, like right now, break down emotionally and can barely see the screen through the tears ...
Thanks for setting up the FB page. There is no reason whatsoever I am aware of that this should be in any way controversial. At the time it was set up, we were trying to build up a presence and well, why not? Much love. :heart:
It is worthy of notice that the sentence “I smell the scent of violets” has the same content as the sentence “It is true that I smell the scent of violets.” So it seems, then, that nothing is added to the thought by my ascribing to it the property of truth. (Frege, 1918)
— link
This quote is from @Pie's thread "What is truth? said jesting Pilate; and would not stay for an answer." I was going to post my response, the attached video clip, but I didn't want to disrupt the thread. So, I'll put it here:
To be fair, when I mentioned the Facebook page yesterday I forgot that it was probably me who created it when requested by Tiff. At least, I'm an admin and I can delete the page if we want.
Reply to L'éléphant True enough, but i haven't been sick or in jail. I've been busy reading, tending to some church work (watering their lawn--God likes green grass, Jesus said) and the like. Reading Kindred: Neanderthal Life, Love, Death and Art by Rebecca Wragg Sykes. Great read. Tons of fascinating information about how data is extracted from digs on the microscopic scale. And some other history books too, one on Fire Island--interesting but not so great. Also a history of the shopping mall--Meet Me At the Fountain by Alexandra Lange, also very good--which has led me to watching a bunch of videos on dead shopping malls.
I do stop by every day and check out new topics, how many pages the Ukraine thread is up to and what Hanover said in the Shoutbox. And then there are the worries of the day -- the would-be-very helpful-timely-passing of Trump and Biden, for instance, and then which devils will replace them. Taiwan and Ukraine, China and Russia, and so on. It keeps me busy.
Good morning. It is 06:09 AM. There is the moon again in the sky. This one is called Grain Moon. It is whitish but smaller than the moon of the month before.
ArguingWAristotleTiff I hope you're doing fine. Don't cry.
No disrespect to you AT ALL @L'éléphant I know your intentions are totally supportive but honestly @ArguingWAristotleTiff CRY, CRY CRY! as much as you want to or need to. It's human to cry when your hurting and it's healthy, trying to hold that back just causes more pain. Cry until your all cried out.
On a recent night out after too much alcohol. One friend told us his mother had died, which brought on a lot of different emotions in the group, obviously supportive but about 20 mins later three men in the group were all in tears. The friend who had just lost their mother and two friends who lost their mothers many years ago but..... the memories. ...... they run very deep.
Reply to Noble Dust The producer of the Dead Malls series mercifully didn't use 'vaporwave' for the soundtrack. Rather, he used a creepy processed tape of the sort of Muzak that malls (and other commercial spaces) used in the past. It sounds echo-y and 'stretched out'. Morgue muzak. Very effective.
Thanks so much!!! I won't be searching out vaporware albums, but I do appreciate the opportunity to briefly sample the sounds the barbarians at the gate are listening to.
The sort of stuff I groove on is a little bit different. Erich Korngold made a living writing music scores in Hollywood, but his concert pieces rely more on his native Vienna influences (or so it seems to me). His violin concerto is one of my favorites, up there with the classical greats. At the same time, this would fit right into a 1940s film. He also wrote operas.
Late lunch: Two boiled eggs topped with Kewpie mayo with leftover three bean and bell pepper salad on the side. I'm trying to get better about using up ingredients and leftovers when I'm low on food instead of being lazy and eating out or ordering delivery.
Is the baby on the bottle indicative of who it is made out of or who it is made for?
3-bean salad, with or without bell pepper, is another summertime culinary horror story, like macaroni "salad" with bits of cheese and raw celery. Disgusting. Bland, revolting texture contrasts (like nuts and celery in Jello), too many earth colors, etc.
As repellant as it is, 3 bean salad is probably nourishing enough, what with boiled eggs and fat baby dressing to complete the proteins.
like macaroni "salad" with bits of cheese and raw celery.
What sociopaths in MN are putting bits of cheese in mac salad? I imagine MN as the epicenter of the jello salad endemic that threatened American life in the 30's-60's, or whenever it was.
As repellant as it is, 3 bean salad is probably nourishing enough
My three bean salad consisted of kidney beans, cannellini beans, green beans, red and green bell pepper, capers, red onion, and parsley with a simple vinaigrette of Syrian extra virgin olive oil, freshly squeezed lemon juice, Dijon mustard, sugar, one clove of freshly chopped garlic, and salt and pepper. Tasty.
I imagine MN as the epicenter of the jello salad endemic that threatened American life in the 30's-60's
Absolutely -- 10,000 lakes and 10,000 variations on J-E-L-L-O. Some people put a little bowl of Kraft Miracle Whip in the middle of the vegetable Jello ring (complementing the shredded carrot, chopped celery, chopped walnut abomination) - the height of elegance. Yes, they used to make vegetable-flavored Jello.
This gives you some idea of the dietary degradation visited upon us:
I'm aware. Recession cuisine, yeah? I've actually had really good macaroni salad, but beyond that I don't mess with it much.
For dinner I tried my hand at Cacio e Pepe for the second time, with the wrong pasta, and it was actually pretty good. Emulsion was successful, pasta was just a hair under-cooked. It hit the spot.
Reply to Noble Dust For supper I had chicken breast with pesto (out of a jar, Rao's); turned out fine. I prefer air-cooled chicken to water cooled. It is cleaner (less bacteria) and has less moisture than from a bath in cold slop. Also had cooked frozen green beens with half and half. Watermelon/blueberries/cherries fruit salad. That was it for the day. (except for some peanuts and dried apricots), coffee, and later lemongrass mint green tea.
In fairness to my mother, we didn't get macaroni salad very often. I think it might have been a last ditch item. Summer meals were generally heavy on fresh vegetables (beets, beans, tomatoes, cucumbers, Swiss chard, lettuce, corn) with a cooked meat at lunch and maybe a warmed up protein for supper. She was a good meal cook as well as making bread, cake, pie, pudding, etc. In the fall squash showed up often--one of my favorite foods.
She's been dead for 30 years, and had stopped cooking a few years before she died.
Also seems very Minnesota, but I get the vibe. Green bean casserole sort of? If it's just green beans with half and half that's gross. Green bean casserole, on the other hand, with dairy and crispy onions, etc., is a favorite holiday treat for me, since my mom never made it. She's a health nut. I can still rely on one of my aunts to bring it.
As to Korngold, @Bitter Crank, I liked the use of the Lydian mode in the beginning, so I kept on. Pleasantly surprised overall. The violinist is elite.
Green bean casserole, on the other hand, with dairy and crispy onions, etc., is a favorite holiday treat for me, since my mom never made it. She's a health nut. I can still rely on one of my aunts to bring it.
Green Bean Casserole was created by a Campbell Soup Company employee, Dorcas Reilly, at our Camden, New Jersey headquarters in 1955. She was one of the first full-time members of Campbell’s Home Economics department—now known as the Campbell Test Kitchen,
Either Green Giant or Bird's Eye came out with a frozen microwavable green bean mushroom risotto a few years ago, then it disappeared. Too bad, it was pretty good.
Glad you liked the Korngold piece. And thanks for the lydian mode information.
On a recent night out after too much alcohol. One friend told us his mother had died, which brought on a lot of different emotions in the group, obviously supportive but about 20 mins later three men in the group were all in tears. The friend who had just lost their mother and two friends who lost their mothers many years ago but..... the memories. ...... they run very deep
I go through times of strength and times of crumbling. One of the hard parts unnecessary in any person's grieving process is my soon to be ex husband barbing me with crap like:
"How can you sleep all day knowing that you burdened Mike in his final days with paying for your sniveling demands because you are too spoiled to support yourself.
One day you will learn that you must do for yourself."
My job is a student and he sees no value in my goal of being schooled as a Liscened Clinical Social Worker. He believes that I deserve nothing in spousal support and thinks that he raised the family and has been the financial provider, essentially he created all that we have built on his own.
It's simply not true. In his asking me to leave my career to come home and raise the family, we the thmade a choice to become a one provider family. We each worked and each of us have been successful.
My job was to raise two boys, into ethically bound children, loving, empathetic, productive members of society. My job was to run the ranch. From the cooking, laundry, cleaning helping out with our company, caring for the horses and fighting every battle we encountered as a couple (house fire, candle injury) as well as the budget for the ranch.
NicK is narrssistic, misogynistic, asshole.
It's a mindfuck and if I didn't share with close friends about what he says? I would think I am losing my mind because he denies saying it.
I'm exhausted emotionally, spiritually and physically depleted. It's one of the darkest times but I am not alone. I have my boys, my dogs and my health. The rest really can be replaced. Been there, done that, got the backine for ServePro.
Deep sighs.....I'm just coasting on the river of the unknown
How can you sleep all day knowing that you burdened Mike
Some people fight dirty and try to hit you where they think it will hurt most. The best response is to not let them hear you scream but to become more calmly determined to fight your case.
He believes that I deserve nothing in spousal support and thinks that he raised the family and has been the financial provider, essentially he created all that we have built on his own.
It's what the court/judge believes that matters, not an acrimonious accuser.
I'm exhausted emotionally, spiritually and physically depleted. It's one of the darkest times but I am not alone. I have my boys, my dogs and my health.
Tough times, but they will end. It's darkest before the dawn. As you correctly said, you are not alone.
I hope you get a fair settlement on the identified marital assets and any other financial settlement you are due. Messy but you must ensure you get what you are legally due.
I am with those who hate to start fights but once started, I will fight back hard.
My job is a student and he sees no value in my goal of being schooled as a Liscened Clinical Social Worker.
What does it mean to be a licensed clinical social worker?
What does the job involve?
How far through your training are you?
What have you learned?
What would be useful practical advice for a client in a similar position?
Other than talk to your friends...and 'coast on the river of the unknown'...
Would you use any philosophical counselling? Refer to any other supportive specialist?
"Wackadoodle" appeared in the 8/13/22 edition of the New York Times TWICE. First, in an article on a tempest in the teacup of Marfa, Texas:
"You can’t just be wackadoodle because it’s a place established by an artist" the former director of the Chinati Foundation said. They run an art museum in Marfa, Texas.
Second, a reviewer of WRONG PLACE WRONG TIME described the premise of the novel as "wackadoodle".
I've no memory of wackadoodle appearing in the NYT, so why twice on one day? Clearly standards are sliding when 1990s neologisms are populating the pages of the Gray Lady.
Good morning everyone. It is 07:58 AM and for a good surprise to me, the moon stills there in the sky even with the shine of the sun which is starting... I love the universe because it gives us a lot of beauty.
I wish you like this amateur photo I took with my phone :lol:
Bullshit, and I don't think any court in the land will buy his take on it.
I know what you are saying and the state is a 50/50 state, which Nick knows but believes he is not going to be subjected to. We were married (still are) in 1994 and the loose formula is spousal support for half the time of the marriage if you make it past ten years.
What I am aware of is that it feels like an old boys school mentality with the attorneys but are appearing before a female judge. The bottom line is that we could go before ten different judges and get ten different outcomes.
My deposition is over. I feel like a weight is lifting and a brighter day ahead.
Mom is coming over to help me pack up sentimental contents of my breakfront so it will be easier than me getting caught up in the emotional weight a lot of what is in there.
Tough times, but they will end. It's darkest before the dawn. As you correctly said, you are not alone.
I hope you get a fair settlement on the identified marital assets and any other financial settlement you are due. Messy but you must ensure you get what you are legally due.
I am with those who hate to start fights but once started, I will fight back hard.
Thank you for your hopes of a fair shake.
Losing everything material in our house fire, after I got out our the little kids and all but one dog (that was saved by a Firefighter) I realized that even though I lost my everything that I had aquired since I was born, I had everything in the world that mattered alive with a heartbeat, the "rest" was replaceable.
Like you, knock me down and my comeback is mean as fuck.
What does it mean to be a licensed clinical social worker?
What does the job involve?
How far through your training are you?
What have you learned?
What would be useful practical advice for a client in a similar position?
Other than talk to your friends...and 'coast on the river of the unknown'...
Would you use any philosophical counselling? Refer to any other supportive specialist?
Great questions!
There are more positions than I can list of the careers of a LCSW. You can sit in an office of a hospital as a Social worker who consults with patients on a variety of areas. If you want to work as a therapist who listens to people's problems, with the dedicated time a LCSW can become specialized in say Marital therapy or singles therapy. Schools are over run with the need for LCSW's.
My particular niche is being created as we speak here in Phoenix. My final destination after obtaining my necessary education is to become a member of the CIT Crisis Intervention Team.
The city of Phoenix was awarded a grant over 10 million to be spent over three years in creating the CIT. At this point in time the "brass" of the Phoenix Fire Department and the Phoenix Police Department are receiving the training necessary to work on a three prong approach to responding to crisis that doesn't require a specific response but is still having a crisis. A blend of Fire, Police and a mental health representative is what is being created. My goal is to be eligible and capable of being that last of the three prongs.
I like brief, intense, emotional states that I can help descalate with the knowledge I am learning. I have no desire to sit and listen week after week about someone's ongoing problems.
I want to be the safe person for someone who is in a mental crisis, usually induced by taking drugs or not taking drugs, for people to call, still employed by the state, but being that safe zone to handle the calls.
In Oregon a group called CAHOOTS has been operating for 50 years without losing a volunteer.
Here in AZ we are building a paid team that should aleviate 20% of the calls coming into 911.
What that means is our specialized resources such as the Fire Department and the Police Department, will be available for dispatch instead of trying to mitigate a kid who took something that is causing a bad trip to the parents of a child who may not have taken his medication and is not thinking straight and is on the roof.
I could go on but the niche's are limitless and the nations need for mental health care workers is huge. I graduated in 2021 with dual Associates degrees and am ready for University. It's a matter of my inability to pay my tuition out of my *temporary spousal support*.
Yes, I am very supported professionally. I have been in and out of therapy since May 2020 when Nick had an aortic dissection.
I currently have a therapist who has her Masters and is a former instructor but has been hired on part time as a social worker and as a student, I am entitled to 10 visits but she is still taking care of my therapy needs. I am also certified with the fire department as a CERT member (Community Emergency Response Team) and have made connections within the fire house family and have utilized their offer of therapy as well.
My philosophy leanings have been shared publicly and that is the Karmic banking system that I believe in. I can make karmic deposits and karmic withdrawals, the goal is to make as many deposits as possible and as few withdrawals needed. I lean on that idea hard and know that I am not in control of anyone but me and I am choosing a trajectory of onward and upward.
A blend of Fire, Police and a mental health representative is what is being created. My goal is to be eligible and capable of being that last of the three prongs...
...I like brief, intense, emotional states that I can help descalate with the knowledge I am learning. I have no desire to sit and listen week after week about someone's ongoing problems.
I want to be the safe person for someone who is in a mental crisis, usually induced by taking drugs or not taking drugs, for people to call, still employed by the state, but being that safe zone to handle the calls.
So, this is mental health crisis intervention from an emergency social care worker at the end of a phone? What de-escalation techniques are used?
Is it similar to this 6-step model:
1. Define The Problem. In this stage, the responder establishes a connection with the person in crisis and helps them articulate their crisis as well as what caused it, using active listening and empathy.
2. Ensure Client Safety. This includes making sure that the client is in a safe place and is not at risk for immediate harm, both self-inflicted and abuse by another person.
3. Provide Support. Once the client is physically safe and the responder understands the nature of the problem, the responder helps determine appropriate options for both immediate and long-term support.
4. Examine Alternatives. The responder encourages the client to explore options for people who care for and want to help them, coping skills they can use in the moment, and appropriate re-frames or new ways of looking at the problem.
5. Make Plans. In this stage, the client and responder develop specific plans for how to implement the chosen alternatives, focusing on realistic and manageable steps that the client can take.
6. Obtain Commitment. Finally, the responder helps the client commit to these steps. This includes putting the plan in writing so that the client knows what they need to do and can remember what helped them during the crisis.
These steps help the client work through the emergency both in the moment and by taking steps to get further support in place in the future. Getting ongoing support in place can prevent future crises.
Or is it much more than this?
Interesting to hear of your philosophical leanings. I'm not sure I've read of them here.
Perhaps elsewhere? Or I've missed it.
I typed in 'Karmic banking system' and only got one hit, the one below:
My philosophy leanings have been shared publicly and that is the Karmic banking system that I believe in. I can make karmic deposits and karmic withdrawals, the goal is to make as many deposits as possible and as few withdrawals needed. I lean on that idea hard and know that I am not in control of anyone but me and I am choosing a trajectory of onward and upward.
If that is a strong belief and one you lean on hard, how would you use that in any crisis intervention?
Right now, I don't understand how that would fit in...
Not sure if the Shoutbox is the ideal place for this but I think it deserves further discussion.
I currently have a therapist who has her Masters and is a former instructor but has been hired on part time as a social worker and as a student, I am entitled to 10 visits but she is still taking care of my therapy needs. I am also certified with the fire department as a CERT member (Community Emergency Response Team) and have made connections within the fire house family and have utilized their offer of therapy as well.
Glad that you are receiving professional support from people who do desire to sit down and listen to ongoing problems on a weekly basis. Perhaps not 'firefighters' but equally important.
Will you likewise be involved in counselling actual firefighters, policemen, anyone else in the team?
'Suicide rates among firefighters reach alarming levels.'
https://www.inmyarea.com/research/firefighters-need-saving-too
I wish you like this amateur photo I took with my phone :lol:
Great photo. Can I screen dump it and add it to my library of copyright free images?
I use them for guides for my oil paintings or when I try to create illustrations using my graphics tablet.
I need illustrations for my current attempt at writing a book. Hobbies are essential after taking early retirement.
You made your point and got your answer. There's nothing else to say in the thread about your complaint. If you want to take it further and try to get some community support, you can open a feedback discussion. That is the way things are done here.
You made your point and got your answer. There's nothing else to say in the thread about your complaint. If you want to take it further and try to get some community support, you can open a feedback discussion. That is the way things are done here.
Absolutely, yes my friend! Thank you so much for saying that you liked that much! Appreciate it!
Not at all, thank you for your permission to use it. It would be great in a digital composition involving wolves looking upwards or small children looking up and pointing in wonderment etc, so many potential uses. Thanks again. I will add it to my 'moon' image folder.
So, I point out that a thread is engaging in bigotry and I'm off topic? That's ridiculous. It's pitiful self-justification. You should be ashamed.
Whether it's bigotry is a moderation question. If it were, the process would entail warnings, deletions, and up to banning by a mod. The process doesn't involve non-mods trying to interfere and distracting from the thread by complaints about how it's being moderated.
That's not saying you're outside your lane and your opinion isn't open for consideration. It's just saying if you have nothing substantive to say on topic other than what youu'd do if a moderater, then open up a feedback thread and do it where it will be on topic.
And that your didn't do, but instead did it here in the Shoutbox. If you've got more to say, I'll move this over there.
That's not saying you're outside your lane and your opinion isn't open for consideration. It's just saying if you have nothing substantive to say on topic other than what youu'd do if a moderater, then open up a feedback thread and do it where it will be on topic.
How come you, a moderator, get to keep commenting but I'm supposed to stop. You should open up a new thread if you want to continue this discussion.
I do stop by every day and check out new topics, how many pages the Ukraine thread is up to and what Hanover said in the Shoutbox.
Why does Hanover seem to be in everybody's to-do list?
That shouting match between Hanover and T Clark started a long time ago when Hanover substituted the cabbage in T Clark's vegetarian salad with kielbasi.
I wasn't aware I was the daily check in draw here, but now that I know it, I think a daily "Hanover's Daily Thoughts" will be in order. That will satisfy your need for entertainment and my humble need for narcissistic affirmation.
My first installment will be tomorrow., but to give you guys a teaser of what my posts might be like, here's a quick example:
Today I well know that I overcooked some steaks, to which my wife declared them perfect, which means that many of the other moments in our lives where she declared the moment perfect might not have really been so either.
"And that's what makes things perfect."
See, a pessimist would have given a final line saying:
"And that's why I can't trust anything."
It's not the events that define our lives. It's the perception.
I'm glad you asked. This is The Foodbox, after all.
Leftovers: A sort of one pot thingy of couscous, chicken thighs, chorizo, jalepenos and onions with some roasted red pepper hummus on the side. The couscous didn't quite cook right so it's a bit sloppy, but still good. The hummus isn't homemade but it's the best I've found in the city, from a Syrian bakery not far from my apartment.
Leftovers: A sort of one pot thingy of couscous, chicken thighs, chorizo, jalepenos and onions with some roasted red pepper hummus on the side. The couscous didn't quite cook right so it's a bit sloppy, but still good. The hummus isn't homemade but it's the best I've found in the city, from a Syrian bakery not far from my apartment.
I'm aware of the hippie dish known as Rainbow Stew, which is a pot of simmering everything left over. This reminds me of that, but I'll admit I never made my own nor sampled anyone else's.
Rao's Arrabbiata sauce, 5 oz. 92% lean ground grass fed beef, coarsely chopped vidalia onion, high protein Italian noodles. Some of the raw onion was on buttered bread. Topped with dried parmesan cheese -- the smelly kind that's in a plastic jar with holes in the top for dispensing. None of that shredded waxy stuff.
Cheese always comes in cheeses hence the name. If someone is selling you some dry powder that smells and trying to convince you it is cheese, shoot them.
You're just eating raw onion on bread? We need to talk.
Oh boy, you haven't lived :smirk:
"Get eatin' yer onions!", Miriam shouts with glee as she crunches one apple-like. :fire:
A hilarious scene in Epsiode3 of 'Miriam and Alan: Lost in Scotland'. Full video of all episodes.
If you wanna bite into the raw, including sexual benefits, fast forward to 1hr 55-ish.
In a field of onions...even the incredulous farmer admits, "It's actually not too bad..."
Alan feels his libido increase every second. Miriam feels an explosion in her mouth.
Alan feeds off this, there's so much he wants to say.
"Well, button up, lad" says Miriam.
"Too late for that..."
It's not always banter between them...tears are formed, with or without onions.
Aw, shame! I see the video isn't available. Perhaps, somewhere else.
Anyway, the secret is to start off with a bite of cheese and then alternate.
Think hard Scottish cheddar.
Sorry everyone, I haven’t mentioned food here for a while. Here are some highlights from my weekend consumption.
On Friday evening I cycled down to Shabolovka to meet my wife at the Odessa Café. I went the long way, along the river, so that I could relax about calories. At the restaurant I had a pile of fried fish. They’re the small ones, some sprat or sardine relative, which you can eat whole without too much bone trouble. I don’t eat the heads, but you probably can. To go with them I had three beers. The beer they have there is called Heidegger Hell, which is amusing.
On Saturday morning I made a grilled cheese sandwich, and also had some watermelon, which is coming into season here now, with feta cheese. My wife told me that watermelons are berries and I expostulated on the difference between culinary and botanical nomenclature.
Later we had pad thai. Delivered, not homemade. Drank rather too much Georgian red wine.
On Sunday we went to Khamovniki to a place that has good breakfasts, because although I offered to make her an omelette, she insisted on going out. I cycled and she drove. I had the so-called "Champion's breakfast", which was poached eggs on toast with avocado and a spinach and pine nut salad on the side. It was all right, but the eggs, though perfectly cooked, were cold.
Our table was at the edge of the terrace and we watched the Yandex delivery robots arriving and leaving with food. My wife didn't manage to finish her "Mexican breakfast" so I ate half of her quesedilla and most of her chili con carne soup. Capuccino and orange juice.
We then decided to go to the Indian festival at Dream Island. Again, I cycled and she drove. The festival was very big and busy and lively. My wife revealed that many years ago she went to Jaipur, Delhi, and Agra, and that she didn't like the food she had there. I said she must have been unlucky or went to the wrong places but she claimed that it's only the Indian food that's served outside of India that's any good. I said that was a ridiculous statement but she pointed out I'd never been to India so I didn't know what I was talking about.
There was Indian music, dancing, yoga, meditation, a replica of the Taj Mahal, and many Russian Hare Krishnas, but of course the most interesting thing to me was the food. The trouble is, I was still full up from breakfast and didn't feel like eating, and I missed out. So the breakfast in Khamovniki turned out to have been a terrible mistake.
We were hot and tired so we left. I decided to put the bike in the car instead of cycling home. On the way home I finally felt the pangs of hunger so we stopped in Zilart to go to a fancy wee cafe. Goat ravioli, tagliatelle with pesto and stracciatella, and two jugs of sangria made with orange wine.
Rao's Arrabbiata sauce, 5 oz. 92% lean ground grass fed beef, coarsely chopped vidalia onion, high protein Italian noodles. Some of the raw onion was on buttered bread. Topped with dried parmesan cheese -- the smelly kind that's in a plastic jar with holes in the top for dispensing. None of that shredded waxy stuff.
Sounds almost like my cuppa tea.
Never heard of vidalia onion but I understand that it is sweet.
Also wondered about Italian noodles. Do you mean pasta?
You might enjoy this blog:
So, I noticed this vague pain under my eye that lasted a couple of days until some small blisters appeared under my eye, the left side of my nose, and some along my lips. I surmised a spider had visited me in my sleep and climbed around my mouth stinging me along the way.
The doctor disagreed and told me it was shingles, apparently my chickenpox revisiting me from my youth. I told my wife I was relieved it was not monkeypox because then I would have to explain the location of the pox, which is coincidentally consistent with the trajectory of a certain monkey pox carrying substance under certain circumstances.
I got some medication and visited the eye doctor who confirmed I didn't have shingle in the eyeball, which would have meant being prescribed a white cane and seeing eye dog. With that good news, we went and enjoyed some lunch, consisting of your typical meat and three. I got the turkey swimming in a brown gravy sauce that was clearly not created from anything turkeyish. My sides consisted of lima beans, collard greens, and fried okra and a roll that I used to sop up the extra gravy.
We then went for a walk in the park, me wearing open toed sandals, walking through the high grass, looking closely for a snake ground assault, only to be hit from airforce above, getting stung by a wasp. I went down quick, but, inspired by the honey badger (see below), got back up and continued forward.
As you know, we do have snakes in Georgia, not having had them eradicated by the good and holy St. Patrick. St. Patrick does little for us here, limiting his works to coloring our rivers green once and year and leaving the townsfolk hungover. He also occasionally comes by for a photo op where he adorns our cereal boxes:
Being a descendant of Jerusalem and not of Rome, I'm not fully aware of how sainthood is granted, but a big thumbs up for any process that grants it to mischievous drunken leprechauns..
I was forced to hop on one leg for some time, resulting in one leg growing much more powerful than the other. I have no picture to show of this occurring in a leg, but I do of it occurring in an arm for illustrative purposes. The below picture depicts what occurs after too much self-pleasuring, but aside from that, I think it makes my point without being too distractive of it.
And so I hip hopped along, having now contracted relentless hiccups, I assume from the wasp, the hopping, the shingles, but doubtfully the delicious meat and three. My wife thought that by frightening me she might scare the hiccups from me, and so she would jump at me every few minutes with her futile attempts. I can only imagine the adorableness of how we presented, a middle aged couple hopping through the woods, playfully slapping and tickling one another.
I almost hate to bring up this episode, as it draws a sharp contrast between my bliss and the bitter acrimony that has developed between @Jamal and his wife, where they can't agree on such minor matters as where the best Indian food is made. And that is a weird thing how the official food of the Brits is Indian food, but that's an aside, and I don't want to get diverted from the point of this post, whatever that may be.
Speaking of Brits, or of former Brits, I drank some Scottish breakfast tea this morning, varying from the Irish Breakfast tea I usually have. I'm told Scottish tea is stronger than Irish tea, but I don't know for sure. I leave that slugfest debate between our gladiators from their respective nations state, @Jamal and @baden
And so there you have it, my weekend of struggle, love, but most of all awe inspiring resiliency.
Reply to Amity Creamette® is the Minneapolis-made pasta product; pasta products don't vary all that much from brand to brand, but La Molisana has more protein, and is maybe kneaded to a higher level of elasticity before drying, At any rate, It takes longer to cook and has a denser texture. Their cut of rigatoni is also bigger in diameter than some, which creates more surface area for the sauce to cling to.
There is no food that can not be subjected to snobbery. Rao's sauce, grass fead beef, etc.
Vidalia onions, grown in Hanover's back yard, are a mild onion that is particularly good on slightly stale bread. (Note: "stale" doesn't imply moldy or spoiled.).
I went the long way, along the river, so that I could relax about calories
Most of us over-estimate how many calories we are burning while walking, jogging, or biking. Depending on several factors, the calories used to bike 1 hour are between 450 and 700. It doesn't take much eating to balance that out. The imbalance between calories eaten and calories expended on a modest bike ride is just TRAGIC.
I have to confess, I had sweet potato fries yesterday for the first time in almost a month....omg....
Still keeping on the scale everyday but damn those are good. :yum:
Reply to praxis What you are poking your fork into looks like the beginning of a Minnesota meal. Add some egg noodles, tunafish, mushroom soup, canned asparagus, and crumbed potato chips on top. Bake, and siss boom bah! Tunafish hot dish.
It could also be the beginning of green bean casserole -- just add canned green beans, mushroom soup, whatever the slop in the plastic container is, and top with canned french fried onions. Bake.
White slop binder / cover-all is a universal kitchen product.
Reply to Hanover It's a sad fact that your weekend chronicles were more entertaining than mine precisely because of your sufferings and anxieties. That's human nature for you.
As for tea, you'll be as disappointed as I was when I mentioned Chicago pizza to Noble Dust and failed to trigger a hate-filled rant. English, Scottish, Irish are all fine*. I'm more of a coffee guy.
I think the proper terminology is tuna fish casserole. The instant version, unbaked and not so hot (when you're not mid Minnesota winter), I believe is called tunanoods.
Reply to Bitter CrankWe didn't have that dish in particular, but we did have a whole line of "Helper" mixes, as in Hamburger Helper, Tuna Helper, Chicken Helper and the like where you'd mix in the protein in the desired noodle and seasoning mix and you and the kids would have a hearty meal in under 20 minutes.
That and some Little Debbie snack cakes would make a complete meal, dessert and all.
My mom used to regularly make tuna casserole. I tried recreating it awhile back in a fit of nostalgia. I used the canned mushroom soup that she used so frequently in her cuisine, but I added fresh vegs, several kinds of cheeses, and some fresh herbs.
Today, that little girl is Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I used to make that too. No one would have thought it was fried though. It cooked in a bag and came out baked and steamed, falling off the bone, covered in a sugary BBQ powder or whatever other flavors they might have had.
Delicious though. It went well with a can marked "Green Beans."
My mom used to regularly make tuna casserole. I tried recreating it awhile back in a fit of nostalgia. I used the canned mushroom soup that she used so frequently in her cuisine, but I added fresh vegs, several kinds of cheeses, and some fresh herbs.
:up:
The labels on tins of Campbells condensed soup used to carry some interesting, quick and easy recipes. (perhaps they still do?)
Not only mushroom but cream of tomato and more...
Here's some online:
https://www.campbellsoup.co.uk/blog/top-6-cream-of-mushroom-soup-recipes/
https://www.campbellsoup.co.uk/blog/top-10-cream-of-tomato-soup-recipes/
I was given a 1972 Armagnac for my birthday and I’ve been saving it for a special occasion. Tonight I thought, why wait? It’s not a party drink, and I want to savour it in peace, so…
I’m usually not good at analyzing wine, whisky, brandy, etc, but this one has some really noticeable flavours, including Terry's Chocolate Orange Dark. Which reminds me that I miss Terry’s Chocolate Oranges.
Cheers! :up: I am not good at analyzing liqueurs either! My father has some bottles of old Spanish reserves and whenever he allows me to taste them I don't know what to say :rofl:
What he means is they are all invented tourist crap that no one here drinks or ever has. Tea doesn't grow here. My favourite is Ceylon. It doesn't exist anymore as a colony, but the tea is still good, you can drink it strong without the astringent tannin taste that tends to overwhelm Assam based "breakfast teas".
I've never been a spirits guy, so not a lot of help there. I do know if you want to taste a spirit in a way to savor it and maybe analyse it a bit, you can sip it and hold the sip on the tip of your tongue. This prevents excessive alcohol burn and allows you to concentrate on what you're tasting.
In wine retro-nasal breathing is important, but can just add more burn with spirits.
Edit: Now that I think about it, I guess you can still use retro-nasal breathing to taste a spirit, it's just trickier because of the higher ABV. Easy to feel burn or inadvertently cause a coughing fit.
What he means is they are all invented tourist crap that no one here drinks or ever has. Tea doesn't grow here. My favourite is Ceylon. It doesn't exist anymore as a colony, but the tea is still good, you can drink it strong without the astringent tannin taste that tends to overwhelm Assam based "breakfast teas".
Hey, do you know a trick that allows me to know if a coin is made of silver?
I mean, a few basic characteristics that I can find before going to pawnshop.
I'm delighted to say I've developed tele-path-ic powers.
I noticed a young man walking uphill towards me, head down probably checking his mobile.
Usually, I give way and reposition to allow social distancing, even though it's no longer required.
This time I relaxed and didn't pre-empt.
I had been thinking about 'Attention' ( my current thread) and wondered if he would pay any.
I smiled and started to inwardly sing "Move Over Darling" (Doris Day).
Directing my mental attention to where I thought his brain might be...
He kept coming... but slowly and surely he moved over.
And get this, he even raised his head to meet mine, smiled and said "Hello!"
I'm now thinking did I sing aloud?
Is it doo-lally time?
Whatever.
It was surprising and really nice to receive attention from a cool guy :love:
Love is all around.
There's a song there. Somewhere...
Where is @Agent Smith? I haven't seen anything written by him in the last couple of days. I know that he shapeshifted from being @TheMadFool in the past. So, I am wondering if he is in some kind of morphological transformation at present.
I was wondering the same. I checked out his profile information and it says in the site role that he is suspended. I do not know what could mean but I guess that instead of being banned he got punished for a few weeks.
On Saturday morning I made a grilled cheese sandwich, and also had some watermelon, which is coming into season here now, with feta cheese. My wife told me that watermelons are berries and I expostulated on the difference between culinary and botanical nomenclature.
So much different than Hanover's day. Certainly not like the honey badger that he is. What a pleasure to read.
Actually a typical situation did happen. A couple, a man and a woman were asking another woman a question, but she apparently ignored them, because they quickly began to yell obscenities at her for ignoring them. The couple kept asking "excuse me, hello?!" to a crescendo of insults. I just heard this, I didn't see it visually. I imagine the woman they were yelling at had headphones in, who knows. After that scene, I hear them ask another woman the same question, about whether they could connect to a different train from where they were. The woman politely let them know that yes, they could make the connection. The couple was very polite in their response. Then, a few minutes later, I hear the same guy ask someone else the same question about the possible connection, and that person gives them the affirmative. I hope you'all are entertained. Welcome to my life.
The woman politely let them know that yes, they could make the connection. The couple was very polite in their response. Then, a few minutes later, I hear the same guy ask someone else the same question about the possible connection, and that person gives them the affirmative. I hope you'all are entertained. Welcome to my life.
That was fun.
So did you guess what the couple were up to?
Zoological research, that's whot. Yep :nerd:
I just checked and he doesn’t appear to be active on another forum that he’s been known to haunt, although it has a stupid search function so I’m not entirely confident that my five minute effort and report is entirely accurate.
Perhaps we should form a search party. I can bring sake and freeze-dried edamame chips. :party:
On Buddhist forums he would speak of how insufferable all you scietismic materialists are and his intention to never ague with you again. This was years ago.
Wayfarer decided to leave TPF. He's done it before of course, but this time he seems more serious.
Wow, I'm super sad. I really hope it's not for real. I'm glad he left his email, which I will save. If this is real, then this is a new era here at TPF, and a significantly lesser era.
Reply to Agent Smith
You got suspended! That sounds serious, but I am glad you are back. I used to get detention at school at times, mainly for not doing my homework in the subjects which I didn't like.
You got suspended! That sounds serious, but I am glad you are back. I used to get detention at school at times, mainly for not doing my homework in the subjects which I didn't like.
Reply to Agent Smith
What on earth did you do to nearly get expelled from school? I was never really in trouble except for minor things, like talking in class when I should have been working. I sometimes used to get moved away from friends and made to sit with people who I was less likely to chat with.
Wayfarer decided to leave TPF. He's done it before of course, but this time he seems more serious.
Yes. Thanks for letting us know. It does seem serious.
I note that he has removed all the information and links about him; a highly talented, thoughtful, caring and sharing individual. It took me a while to appreciate that he is a song and music maker, as well as a writer. Wow :hearts:
@Wayfarer
A web search of his changed profile pic reveals that it is 'Rational Buddhism'.
Also, the profile includes the fully-written-out: [email protected].
I'm sure some, including myself, will be in touch.
If only to say, "Missing your presence, take care along the way...!"
What on earth did you do to nearly get expelled from school? I was never really in trouble except for minor things, like talking in class when I should have been working. I sometimes used to get moved away from friends and made to sit with people who I was less likely to chat with.
Just kiddin'. I was a good boy, teachers' pet?, in school Jack.
On Buddhist forums he would speak of how insufferable all you scietismic materialists are and his intention to never ague with you again. This was years ago.
Wayfarer is one who could really benefit from some serious metaphysical training. Most the other members here are so deeply enveloped by mathematicism and scientism, that radical reformatting would be required before any real metaphysics could be accepted.
Thanks for askin' Jack. I'm back, my 1 week suspension from the forum having ended. How are you buddy?
I didn't know we did suspensions. When people suggested it in the past, the moderators didn't seem to like the idea. I'm glad they decided to do it that way.
I didn't know we did suspensions. When people suggested it in the past, the moderators didn't seem to like the idea. I'm glad they decided to do it that way.
I think I have Geschwind's syndrome, hypergraphia being one of the symptoms. The mods didn't like my graphorrhea. Do you think I could sue them for discriminating against my illness? :joke:
I once tried to read Mind & Cosmos by Thomas Nagel, a Wayfarer favorite, but honestly it was largely over my head and difficult to hold my attention on it.
Reply to Agent Smith
Wikipedia:
"n 1969, Isaac Asimov said "I am a compulsive writer".[19] Other artistic figures reported to have been affected by hypergraphia include Vincent van Gogh, Fyodor Dostoevsky,[citation needed][20] and Robert Burns.[21] Alice in Wonderland author Lewis Carroll is also said to have had the condition,[22] having written over 98,000 letters in various formats throughout his life. Some were written backwards, in rebus, and in patterns, as with "The Mouse's Tale" in Alice."
I think I have Geschwind's syndrome, hypergraphia being one of the symptoms. The mods didn't like my graphorrhea. Do you think I could sue them for discriminating against my illness?
Good to see you back. I appreciate your liveliness. Are there meds for graphorrhea? :cool:
Reply to jgill Hypergraphia is usually one of a constellation of symptoms of mania, the syndrome I mentioned above, and others and these illnesses do have specific medications to treat them.
It's hard to catch everything in the shoutbox. If I don't check it in a day, two pages have gone by. Then I only see the latest. But back at ya -- you've recovered. So, all good. :up: :joke:
Reply to Baden Meh. Like any curmudgeon I habitually complain about falling standards every six months or so. I had an outline for the way that thread would grow, complimenting and perhaps improving the other more general thread. Fucked up by a neophyte mod making a poor decision. Shit happens. But it put me off my coffee.
I speculate that he got serious about practicing the way and surmised that a place like this tends to stimulate our default mode network (monkey mind, as they say in the biz) and he has fled this burning house.
Ghost Ship of Cannibal Rats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaNpka54DqQ
[Verse 1]
(Respect!)
Is never given enough today
I'm tired of looking the other way
(Respect!)
An appetite that we can't sustain
We're on a mission to kiss our days away
[Bridge]
So how long before the rivers start to rise, dear?
Yeah I thank my lucky stars to be alive here
[Verse 2]
(Respect!)
A generation of castaways
Under a nation of tidal waves
(Respect!)
Are we the passengers or the prey?
You can't escape from the past on holiday
[Bridge]
So how long before the rivers start to rise, dear?
Pack your bags because the tide is getting high
[Chorus]
Don't be afraid of the view from economy class
It's just the captain and crew jumping off of the mast
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Who's gonna sound the alarm when the bridges collapse?
Is this the point where the bomb reaches critical mass?
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
[Verse 3]
(Respect!)
Catastrophic events don't change
Today we feast, but tomorrow we pay
(Respect!)
But don't you worry 'cause you'll be safe
I got a ticket to piss your days away
[Bridge]
So how long before the rivers start to rise, dear?
Yeah I thank my lucky stars to be alive here
[Chorus]
Don't be afraid of the view from economy class
It's just the captain and crew jumping off of the mast
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Who's gonna sound the alarm when the bridges collapse?
Is this the point where the bomb reaches critical mass?
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Don't be afraid of the view from economy class
It's just the captain and crew jumping off of the mast
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Who's gonna sound the alarm when the bridges collapse?
Is this the point where the bomb reaches critical mass?
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
[Outro]
One city from the coast (Disappearing too fast)
One city from the coast (Sunk into the past)
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
One city from the coast (Disappearing too fast)
One city from the coast (We can never come back)
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Cannibal rats
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I've been shitting where I eat, I'm afraid, Tiff. Having a little dummy spit about some poor moderating. @Michael came in for a few insults, for which I apologise. I wouldn't want to do his job, which no doubt requires more than that of which you or I are aware.
Anyway, it's good to see you back here. I hope it is long term.
Your were referencing my preference for air-cooled over water-cooled chicken. A dead air-cooled chicken reminded me that I hadn't clarified the difference.
After a dead chicken has it's head, feet, and feathers removed and it reaches the end of the gut-sucking line, it is still warm and needs to be cooled off. Most chicken falls into a bath of chilled, slimy, greasy water and is then fished out and packaged. Air-cooled chicken are blasted with chilled air, then they are packaged. There are two differences: first, water-cooled chicken has more bacteria on it (from its slimy cold bath) and the skin is somewhat water logged. Air cooed chicken has much less bacteria and the skin is dry.
Pieces of air-cooled chicken skin readily crisp in the oven: Delicious. Crunchy like potato chips. Pieces of water-cooled chicken skin cook in the oven, but they don't readily become crispy. Good but not heavenly, Taste? Because of less water in the flesh, air-cooled chicken has better flavor.
If money is no object, you can get organic air-cooled chicken which has even less bacteria on it and has more food-snob value.
Some stores don't carry air-cooled chicken. Stores that cater to fussy, affluent shoppers do. (Low-class stores carry Purdue Road Kill.)
Most chicken falls into a bath of chilled, slimy, greasy water and is then fished out and packaged. Air-cooled chicken are blasted with chilled air, then they are packaged. There are two differences: first, water-cooled chicken has more bacteria on it (from its slimy cold bath) and the skin is somewhat water logged.
Isn't that bacteria laden sliminess better known as chicken shit?
Isn't that bacteria laden sliminess better known as chicken shit?
Well, yes, but... Monty Python skit impinges on memory:
Diner: Waiter, what is this soup made out of?
Waiter: Oh, fresh vegetables and nice pieces of beef.
Diner: There isn't any rat in the soup, is there?
Waiter: No, no; we never put rat in our soup.
Diner: You are quite sure there is no rat in the soup?
Waiter: Well, there might be just the teensiest bit of rat.
Diner: Just how much rat is a teensy bit?
Waiter: I'd have to check, but certainly not more than 10%.
Diner: 10%! Are you sure there's not more than 10% rat in this soup?
(to cut to the chase)
Waiter: Well, yes, it's all rat. But it's fresh rat, I can assure you.
Good morning! I am walking to the medical clinic to get my blood test... it is the tenth time of the year which I have to take these clinical analysis!
I guess this is what happens when you tend to have low Vitamin D! :death:
Reply to javi2541997 I discovered I had quite low D levels and now take a supplement which has resolved the problem. But 10 times? How severe is the deficiency?
I take a supplement too. It is called "hidroferol" and yes it was quite severe when I took the first blood test because it appeared an important risk of having very low bone mineral density (BMD).
I don't tend to consume milk, butter, cheese, etc... and all of those products with calcium. I guess this why I take the supplement each two weeks and then taking the blood test to check how it is going.
Sounds very vitamin Dish. As an alternative you can just go sun bathing - the skin manufactures vitamin D in the presence of sunlight, kinda like photosynthesis. Don't forget your sunscreen though - white folks with light skin are prone to cutaneous malignancies from too much sun exposure. Morlocks! :grin:
I have been recommended calcium intake too. Most of the calcium in my blood comes from supplements. It would sound weird but it is impossible for me to drink a simple glass of milk, like only with the smell it makes me have arcades.
Reply to javi2541997 I was one too! Now circumstances don't permit me to maintain that lifestyle. Forced extrovert, that's me! (Some) Women marry the weirdest of men! I don't understand the so-called fairer sex at all. I hope you fared better.
Now circumstances don't permit me to maintain that lifestyle
Same. My currently job doesn't allow me to maintain that kind of life. Despite the fact that Hikikomori is seen pretty bad among the society I have nostalgia about it because it was a period of time where I played with a lot of internet friends through Xbox 360. Good times though
Same. My currently job doesn't allow me to maintain that kind of life. Despite the fact that Hikikomori is seen pretty bad among the society I have nostalgia about it because it was a period of time where I played with a lot of internet friends through Xbox 360. Good times though
So a lawyer here in my office missed a hearing, claiming never to have received the notice from the court. His instinct was to delete the notice from the system and tell the client he never got it. A brilliant fucking strategy.
Had he looked a little deeper he would have realized that the notice was invalid for various legal reasons, so missing the hearing was excusable and will result in no harm to the client.
My instinct is to fire him. I can't deal with lying or cover ups. Had he admitted the fuck up (which even in a worse case scenario would not have been that terrible) and dealt with reality instead of trying to move the pieces around to present a prettier picture, it would have been a regular old Wednesday that we could have dealt with.
I am in your side. Fire him immediately. He acts in pure bad faith. After catching him up doing such wicked act you no longer trust on him, right?
So... what is the point to keep a lawyer who acts in bad faith with his clients and is not trustful?
We live in different countries. Here we have another professional called "court attorney" who represents the client and sends to him all notifications of the court. Before to start every judicial process you have to hire this representative and it costs around 35 € plus other fees.
This figure exists precisely to prevent this bitch acts from useless lawyers.
This figure exists precisely to prevent this bitch acts from useless lawyers.
I like the idea of a full time notifier.
The problem with notices is that everything is electronic these days and we get hundreds of filings and pleadings every day in our email. It's really hard to keep track of. I know I sound like an old man, but when they used to mail a single letter in the mail with the notice, it would come in, get stamped in by the mail room, and then passed around and initialed by everyone involved. Now we just get a daily tsunami of notices.
The excuse I'm giving him is that he could have explained it got lost in the shuffle as opposed to lying and covering up. That's the part I can't deal with.
I know I sound like an old man, but when they used to mail a single letter in the mail with the notice, it would come in, get stamped in by the mail room, and then passed around and initialed by everyone involved
Yes I know what you are referring to. We used to have the same pattern as well in all judicial procedures. I think this one is more effective because it shows the "timestamped" of the letter and other public signatures which proofs the reception to the recipient.
It would sound as a mess but our law degrees are incompatible.
I worked 4 years ago as a notifier of foreclosures. It was fun... well not funny for the owners who lost their properties due to non-payment.
Generally I do whatever the mod group advises, so fired he is. I'll run down there and tell him.
Yes, that's what I meant. I was definitely not suggesting that you should remove his head from his neck using a sharp instrument, such as a sword, axe, or guillotine.
And he can't even do that. If I were him I'd fire himself for his inability to do his job without consulting a bunch of randos on an internet philosophy forum.
@Hanover, you have permission to fire yourself. :up:
Oh, he's not in charge. He's just the guy who's been hired to fire people. It's a secretarial position.
Actually I don't have a job. I'm just this old guy who gets pissed off and tells people they're fired. Then I stare at their mouth and giggle until they walk away weirded out.
And yes, that I chose "mouth" for that comment means I'm maturing.
I've noticed that I've upped my game here lately, finding that perfect balance between my triple threat components of absurdly clever, deeply intellectual, and drippingly sexy,.
Based upon what I've read between the lines of your silence, I know you guys have noticed it too, and for that I thank you.
I've noticed that I've upped my game here lately, finding that perfect balance between my triple threat components of absurdly clever, deeply intellectual, and drippingly sexy,.
Based upon what I've read between the lines of your silence, I know you guys have noticed it too, and for that I thank you.
[i]When love breaks down
The things you do
To stop the truth from hurting you
When love breaks down
The lies we tell
They only serve to fool ourselves[/i]
"From the sun did I learn this, when it goeth down, the exuberant one: gold doth it then pour into the sea, out of inexhaustible riches, -So that the poorest fisherman roweth even with golden oars! For this did I once see, and did not tire of weeping in beholding it.".
I was just thinking that myself. I actually like Frank.
I can think of fewer better comments than telling someone you "actually" like them, as if maybe you shouldn't, and maybe a lot of other people don't, but I actually do, like I see something, or maybe tolerate something, that others don't.
I'm hoping this amazing compliment finds him and send him back our way.
I just received the blood tests (which we discussed about in Thursday) results in my Outlook. Good news my vitamin D and calcium have increased a lot.
The doctor says in the file:
(LC) CALCIO / SUERO
RESULTADO........................ 99,8 mg/L (83,0-106,0)
(LC) VITAMINA D 25-OH
RESULTADO........................ 32,98 ng/mL (30,00-100,00)
Pretty good. The supplements are helping me a lot during these months! :ok:
I actually like Frank...
...I actually do, like I see something, or maybe tolerate something, that others don't.
I'm hoping this amazing compliment finds him and send him back our way.
Aw, that's Love Actually :hearts:
He is someone who definitely left his mark. Not gonna mention where...
I've not forgotten him and I bet others have been wondering too. It's been 3 months.
Girl learnt something a few weeks back. Her partner had some surgery - small stuff - but she had to nurse him while he puked blood for a few days. She phoned in tears, "I can't do this!, I can't do this!". I replied "yeah, but you will anyway". And she did.
After 2 2/3 years, being careful, getting vaccinated, and getting boosted I have finally become infected with Covid-19. Not terrible (so far) but somewhat unpleasant. Fever, chills, stiff neck, headache, a cough, runny nose... malaise. Confirmed it with a test today. I had gotten smug about being healthy. About that time a vortex of vicious virus vectors started circling around my head.
It's one thing to try to avoid the virus, another to taunt it, so I can see why the virus wasn't going to put up with that shit. It does have a reputation to maintain.
"I can't do this!, I can't do this!". I replied "yeah, but you will anyway". And she did.
I totally get that.
Here is one of my loudest unwarranted criticism that I am not able to get out of my head:
Nick said that I wasn't there for him in his hour of need.
How? By every act possible my youngest son and I, along with the Angels in Heaven aligning, with a 1% chance of survival after Nick had his Aortic dissection, both ascending and descending.
45 days later, after going through DT's in an induced coma, 16 months later he served me with divorce papers.
In addition to what he was going through, my youngest son and I jumped into the business, handled it, we had clients making double payments and never skipped a beat. I knew that if he survived the disection and did not sustain brain damage, that he could not handle our business having failed. 2020 turned out to be one of our best years for our business. No good deed goes unpunished...
November will be a year after he started this divorce and I am soul tired. He has secured a house to move into in 4 days. I don't know where he is getting the money from because I don't have it. I don't have a choice but to remain here at the ranch until it sells. I'd love to be out of here but the only secure housing and utilities paid is here.
There is light but it's still too far away.
I did the "I handled it anyway" and I know you are aware of it and I love you for your encouragement that I will get through it.....
I'm just tired of burning.. :fire:
His instinct was to delete the notice from the system and tell the client he never got it. A brilliant fucking strategy.
Had he looked a little deeper he would have realized that the notice was invalid for various legal reasons, so missing the hearing was excusable and will result in no harm to the client.
My instinct is to fire him.
What do you guys think I should do?
Do not fire his ass because of a cover up or lying. Fire his ass because he was tampering with the electronic file management system. This is a graver offense. Deleting files is company property malicious vandalism or theft. If he just lied that he didn't get the file and did nothing else, reprimand him for lying. Because no loss came out of it, move on. There is a thing called PI (performance improvement) -- a process that helps the employees to redeem themselves.
I'd fire anyone who would tamper with saved files in company system or anyone who intercepts communication from outside agencies to the company and vice versa.
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@Hanover also, if your first reaction is to fire, then you're not ready to be a boss. Because no matter how you look at the fuck-up, every employee's fuck-up belongs to the company. It's the company's fuck-up. As a boss, it's your job to make it better.
My instinct is to fire him. I can't deal with lying or cover ups.
Was there a significant consequence for the company resulting from his actions, a material or reputational loss?
Was the file-deleter authorized to manage files? Are there circumstances in which files are deleted for good reasons? (Don't know...).
What is the average performance level of the file defeater? Is he otherwise a productive employee? Is he your supervisee or employee? Have you discussed this incident with him? Did he present a plausible explanation?
Is there a contract between the company and the file-deleter that might present problems to you as the terminating agent? (If 'employment at will' applies, you could fire him for not combing his hair.) Is the file-deleter a member of a protected class? (Just covering all the bases I can think of)?
Surely, lawyers have occasion to deal with lying and deception. It would seem to go with the territory.
So, what are you going to do... or what did you do?
Reply to L'éléphant There's an old theory in the sociology of organizations (not disproved so far) that every problem is stacked up several layers deep.
I'd fire anyone who would tamper with saved files in company system or anyone who intercepts communication from outside agencies to the company and vice versa.
He works directly under another partner, so he's that guy's final call, but ultimately we're all partners and in this together, so I can't completely abdicate from giving input.
It would be different if it were entirely up to me.
The employee is inconsistent at best, often varying in performance based on what seems to be personal life stresses and depression cycles. It's a tough market to hire employees also.
I have no problem with working with folks in terms of offering performance plans and even discussing personal issues they're wanting to discuss, but this is an ethical issue and trust has to be very high in what I do. Screw ups are common place, but I've got to be sure of the facts and then I can deal with it
I know you guys likely think dishonesty runs amok in what I do, but it's really the opposite at the person to person level. The behavior was shocking. To me at least. But I do tend to over moralize,, so I do sometimes need a really check.
I know you guys likely think dishonesty runs amok in what I do, but it's really the opposite at the person to person level.
I wasn't suggesting that lawyers were dishonest, but rather that the individuals and entities you represent (honestly, of course) might on some occasion be... a bit mendacious. One can't do business if people are dishonest.
Honesty is, of course, the best default policy; it relieves the liar of having to remember so many details of which lies were told where, when, why, to whom, etc.
also, if your first reaction is to fire, then you're not ready to be a boss. Because no matter how you look at the fuck-up, every employee's fuck-up belongs to the company. It's the company's fuck-up. As a boss, it's your job to make it better.
The issue here is not a "fuck-up" but the bad faith used by the lawyer. He lied and tried to cover it up. That's the main reason why he got fired.
Reply to Hanover
You're only going to get calls to fire the God damn deleter here, because you have no one to give the other side of the story. You need someone to play that role, the devil's advocate. But we don't really know the other's mind.
Reply to Metaphysician Undercover
It might not be an ethical issue but one relating to a chronic mental health problem.
He probably hates every minute of his goddamned job, his life, and everything.
Has he ever received professional counselling?
You're only going to get calls to fire the God damn deleter here, because you have no one to give the other side of the story. You need someone to play that role, the devil's advocate. But we don't really know the other's mind.
Fair enough.
I'll play the deleter so we can get a full analysis:
Deleter: "Hanover is amazing! He is understanding, super smart, always spot on in his decisions, and does look crazy irresistible in those never too tight jeans. Let me tell you quite the tale. Well, the other day, I missed a hearing. Whoopsie! It was actually my secretary's fault. She just didn't enter it on my calendar. I can't do everything! Anywho after missing it, I promptly called the client, fully explained the situation, and told him we never got a stinking notice. Then I thought to myself "Deleter (that's coincidently my birth name), what oh what has your silly little self gone and said?!' So I plopped down in my chair, the rolley balls sliding me all about, and I made the file look like how I described it by deleting that contradictory smoking gun. "
So this should give you an objective view of the other side.
Reply to skyblack
I appreciate the spirit of your platitude but as an up and coming social worker, I have heard them all and the need for Nick to burn to this marriage to the ground, everything that we made in coming together is being destroyed.
But I really do thank you because just knowing you have expressed more than silence is more helpful than thinking I am totally alone....
god bless it here come the tears.... I swore to myself I would not shed anymore tears for this mofo.
You say you'd fire the guy, but then say if my instinct was to fire him, I'm not ready to be a boss.
I meant to say, if it didn't come through in my previous post, is that if your first instinct is to fire the dude for lying, then you're not ready to be a boss. I think you wanted to fire him. And I wanted to say, think first. What did he do besides say "I didn't get the notice".
So, my impression of you is that, you wanted to fire the employee right away for lying.
Given his past performance and record, think first.
Got a funny for you:
I was working out at the gym and get off the machine and sanitize the whole thing. I go back to the sanitary station and push the foaming hand sanitizer once and it didn't come out.
I could feel someone behind me but didn't turn around and hit the sanitizer again...
Well both spills of foam came out onto my hands and I went to rub my hands together and a fucking splat of it landed right on my cheek, which I couldn't believe it happened. So I wiped it away before I turned around. Standing behind me was a very large but fit man, I was clearly blushing. I shot him a smile and a quiet frustration noise. He said "I gotta tell you that was funny!" I am like right?
Blushing as I type it out now.
Yes I have seen him once at the gym again but he is going to have to make first move as I am quite content.
if your first instinct is to fire the dude for lying, then you're not ready to be a boss.
I'm not a boss, never have been a boss. My "from the bottom-up view" is what I said about problems within organizations: they're usually stacked up several layers deep. Why is that? Because many (most?) organizations are not rationally built; they are assembled over time and the individual quirks of various individuals, groups, markets, regulations, profit motivations, and so on put problems in place.
If Hanover's workplace has problems, that just means it's a normal workplace. Not good, but normal.
A comparison:
If you go to a pharmacy, you will see a few people behind the pharmacy counter working their tails off. Given the complexity of Rx, insurance, payment intermediaries, pharmacy inventory, customer expectations, and so on and so forth, it's amazing that more errors in dispensing aren't made.
Why are pharmacies like this? Because management at CVS, Walgreens, and a dozen other companies have decided to keep staffing levels at the flat minimum, and to cut registered pharmacist wages. The problems of the pharmacy business are stacked up several layers deep.
If someone makes an error, they might get summarily fired. Bad for the employee, who like her fellow workers is under extraordinary pressure to perform. She might lie to protect her job or reputation.
The solution is not an upgrade to really solidly ethical employees--they are probably already there--the solution is to reduce the workload so that more double-checking can take place.
Reply to Bitter Crank You're not wrong here. I would certainly prefer ethical reactions in response to challenges that arise, but the better structural response would be to reduce ethical challenges by reducing errors that demand creative responses by employees.
Of course, it's impossible to create a fully efficient system, but people resorting to unethical responses could be evidence of structural failures.
It''s like if crime soars, that might be because you've got a particularly corrupt populace, or you might also have a system that presents too many challenges to the average guy.
I have read as well that simply having employees watch videos about proper behavior reduces ethical violations. It's not so much that these corporate videos give them a moral compass as much as they realize the company prioritizes it, so they comply.
I have read as well that simply having employees watch videos about proper behavior reduces ethical violations. It's not so much that these corporate videos give them a moral compass as much as they realize the company prioritizes it, so they comply.
No. It's all about the law. You're made to watch them to inform you what's protected under the law. It doesn't change the dynamics within an organization. As they say, the bullshit and asshole registers are heard from the top. The organizations themselves are required to make the employees watch the videos.
Reply to praxis I get the jest you are saying and thank you for the chuckle.
Now I have a question for you, if you would be so kind to entertain and respond to me.
What about that interaction did I come across as flirting?
I am genuinely asking...
Hanover
No. It's all about the law. You're made to watch them to inform you what's protected under the law. It doesn't change the dynamics within an organization. As they say, the bullshit and asshole registers are heard from the top. The organizations themselves are required to make the employees watch the videos.
But see, https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/news/hr-magazine/pages/0414-ethical-workplace-culture.aspx
f someone makes an error, they might get summarily fired. Bad for the employee, who like her fellow workers is under extraordinary pressure to perform. She might lie to protect her job or reputation.
The solution is not an upgrade to really solidly ethical employees--they are probably already there--the solution is to reduce the workload so that more double-checking can take place.
Down here we have industrial regulation which mostly protects workers from unfair dismissal. It's not considered lawful to fire a worker for an honest mistake. Mistakes are human. There is generally a fair process around performance management which must happen before anyone can be fired from a job. If mistakes happen and someone is injured or killed as a consequence, we have a government authority which will investigate and they may well find that structural problems (work load, communication, workplace culture) contributed, not merely the worker's decision making.
After 2 2/3 years, being careful, getting vaccinated, and getting boosted I have finally become infected with Covid-19. Not terrible (so far) but somewhat unpleasant. Fever, chills, stiff neck, headache, a cough, runny nose... malaise. Confirmed it with a test today. I had gotten smug about being healthy. About that time a vortex of vicious virus vectors started circling around my head.
Join the club! :smile: Somehow you don't come across as the type who would succumb to illnesses. Your mind is clear, good recall, well-oriented in time & space, fit as a fiddle if you ask me. Whatever it is that you're doing, keep doin' it. The brain/mind is the canary in the coal mine, very sensitive to even the slightest of maladies. I declare you fit! Now if you'll please pick up the M16, collect your uinform and go to the barracks! :joke:
After 2 2/3 years, being careful, getting vaccinated, and getting boosted I have finally become infected with Covid-19. Not terrible (so far) but somewhat unpleasant. Fever, chills, stiff neck, headache, a cough, runny nose... malaise. Confirmed it with a test today. I had gotten smug about being healthy. About that time a vortex of vicious virus vectors started circling around my head.
Sorry to hear that, a real bummer, and hope there are no long-lasting consequences.
I doubt you were smug about being healthy.
However, I remember becoming a bit more relaxed and complacent c. 3rd vacc.
Until I read about the deaths of some who caught it despite taking all and every precaution.
There was evidence that my cover would be insufficient.
Fortunately, the NHS followed through with boosters at shorter intervals.
Unfortunately, there is no guarantee, especially for those at 'High Risk'.
Covid keeps changing its colours.
We can only do our best. Keep taking the vaccs, wear a mask when necessary. I still pretty much keep to social distancing...except when (carefully) hugging close friends and family.
Covid is here to stay and there will always be a chance of catching any virus.
If over-protective of self, then we can wonder about our quality of life...
Artemis 1, about to launch in around 1 hour! :clap:
People back on the moon 2-3 years from now.
Is a moon base going to be a reality within the next X years?
Will we launch from there to Mars?
Will the answer to David Bowie's 'Is there life on Mars' eventually be YES!. ........ US!
Reply to L'éléphant I do have Covid -- day 5 today. It has not been terrible; along the lines of a cold, but maybe with more fever. Not a high fever --100.3 is the highest so far, but uncomfortable. However, not done yet.
Has anyone from the northeast US had a heat pump installed? Looking for feedback…
How much was it? Worth it? Does it work in very cold weather? What kind? Any rebates? Etc.
I live in the southeast and have a heat pump. It's supposedly more efficient than the furnace I had in my old house. It seems to work fine, but I think the issue is whether it's good for cold weather climates. Yours will likely require a secondary heat source for extended cold temperatures I think, which might make it cost more.
Do people in your area have them or are you trying to be creatively efficient?
do have Covid -- day 5 today. It has not been terrible; along the lines of a cold, but maybe with more fever. Not a high fever --100.3 is the highest so far, but uncomfortable. However, not done yet.
I got shingles on my face recently, which is supposedly a later side effect of Covid. It was really mild and controlled by anti-viral meds. The only concern was it was near my eye, but it went away pretty quickly.
Something else you guys have to look forward to, but there is a vaccine if you want to get ahead of it.
Do people in your area have them or are you trying to be creatively efficient?
Yeah they do, but I’ve only heard about it second-hand. Articles only haven’t answered all my questions— I’ll just have to bite the bullet and call an HVAC place.
Thanks for the info — glad it works well. How much was yours?
The Roads to Freedom
Taboo-busting adaptation for television of Jean-Paul Sartre's trilogy (1970)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m0019m8q/the-roads-to-freedom
The BBC’s superb adaptation of Sartre’s story of love, shame and France’s fall is a stark reminder that self-reproach has gone from British public life. Why, asks playwright David Hare, do we tolerate a ruling class that can’t confess fault?
[...]
As far as public figures are concerned, there is no longer any such thing as disgrace. They live in an un-Sartrean universe, strangers, apparently, to the inner regulation of self-knowledge and self-hatred. Boris Johnson, theoretically a Catholic, seems to function without any recourse to the doctrine of sin that is meant to define his religion. For him, as for most frontline politicians, the idea of regret or remorse is anathema. In his own eyes, he is dully faultless. He never reflects. His response to being caught out in any dishonesty is always automatically to further advance the dishonesty. And as two more narcissists have this month scrapped their way around Britain, the country has been asking how its problems can possibly be solved by braggarts who cannot begin to admit their own doubts or failings.
Shame, said Karl Marx, is the only revolutionary emotion...
Mine actually came with the house, so I didn't price it. My concern at first was that it's all electric, which I know is environmentally more friendly, but electric is usually more than natural gas, although not so much now.
Not sure if that plays into your equation where you are.
Reply to Xtrix One of my sisters has a heat pump. In Minnesota, at least, one still needs a secondary heating element in the hot air or hot water system for the coldest months.
Depending on electricity and fuel rates, the cost / benefit payoff will take time to achieve.
Reply to Hanover Herpes zoster (shingles) is a pain, for sure. I haven't heard much about it as a follow-on to Covid, but I'm not surprised. Shingles is most apt to occur after a period of high stress, such as from infections.
It's definitely worthwhile getting vaccinated for shingles; a serious case can last a long time and be quite miserable.
My mother grew up in south Georgia in the pre-AC days. My grandmother's house still had no AC when I was a kid. It was hot as hell, but no one seemed to notice. So it really doesn't matter what sort of hvac you get. It's all mind over matter. A little sweating and shivering never killed anyone.
The only time I've had AC was the dorm I lived in in my freshman year in college. Ironically, it's in the process of being installed in the building I currently live in, but I'm trying to move soon.
My mother grew up in south Georgia in the pre-AC days. My grandmother's house still had no AC when I was a kid. It was hot as hell, but no one seemed to notice. So it really doesn't matter what sort of hvac you get. It's all mind over matter. A little sweating and shivering never killed anyone.
Could be true. I have lived without AC or heating for most of my life and don't use it now. It's 90 to 113 down here in summer. A fan is enough. Never very cold, 44 degrees last night.
I do have Covid -- day 5 today. It has not been terrible; along the lines of a cold, but maybe with more fever. Not a high fever --100.3 is the highest so far, but uncomfortable. However, not done yet.
You have well-disciplined macrophages in your blood. Lucky you.
Reply to HanoverReply to Tom Storm Everyone used to live without AC, of course, and not that long ago. One of the features of life-as-we-know-it, is that a lot of environments are crispy-cooled. Offices, restaurants, theaters, hospitals, stores, hotels, cars, etc. Moving in and out of AC spaces and then ending the day in a hot house is more difficult than using spaces that are at similar -- warm -- temperatures all the time.
Dinner: Homemade Chicken Shawarma, homemade tabouleh, couscous that was sort of burnt, and store-bought hummus because I don't have a real food processor. The shawarma recipe, which I linked to, is fool-proof and stupidly delicious. Everything else was just ok.
Thanks. The couscous I bought is from a Syrian bakery, and the bag doesn't have any cooking directions, so I had to resort to the interwebs. I'll keep trying.
What have I been eating, I hear you all ask? I've been in Turkey, and Scotland, and now Turkey again. I've had grilled dorada, haggis and whisky sauce, two fish suppers (haddock deep fried in batter with chips, sometimes known as fish and chips, but in England they use cod, so "fish supper" effectively identifies the type of fish as well as being the Scottish lingo for fish and chips), pork tenderloin with tasty stuff I can't remember, a truly appalling meal in an Italian restaurant in my childhood home town (we all pretended it was good), baked potato with coronation chicken (second time in a few weeks; it must be making a comeback), an excellent Indian meal. The list could go on but I'm boring myself.
This morning I went to the hotel restaurant for the breakfast buffet. I realized too late that the nice Turkish stuff was hidden round the back, by which time I had a plateful of stuff I didn't really want. I disapprove of wasting food so I couldn't just abandon the inferior plate in favour of the flatbreads, savoury fritters, etc., so I had both.
Normally I would; I usually look up a few recipes and combine the bits I like. In this case, this recipe is so damn good that I don't mess with it. It's the only online recipe I follow to a T. I highly recommend that exact recipe to anyone, and it's super easy. Just let it marinate for like 1/2 an hour, doesn't need a long time (no marinade does). No, I'm not getting paid to say this.
two fish suppers (haddock deep fried in batter with chips, sometimes known as fish and chips, but in England they use cod, so "fish supper" effectively identifies the type of fish as well as being the Scottish lingo for fish and chips)
I'm a fan of "fish 'n chips" but I don't quite get what you're saying here. Please explain.
I'm a fan of "fish 'n chips" but I don't quite get what you're saying here. Please explain
Fish and chips is called a fish supper in Scotland, where haddock is used, not cod. Haddock tastes a lot better in my opinion.
But I've seen "fish and chips" or "fish n chips" used to describe a different meal: breaded fish with skinny French Fries. This is another reason why the term "fish supper" is good: it is only ever used to refer to what you get from a chip shop.
Fish and chips is called a fish supper in Scotland, where haddock is used, not cod. Haddock tastes a lot better in my opinion.
But I've seen "fish and chips" or "fish n chips" used to describe a different meal: breaded fish with skinny French Fries. This is another reason why the term "fish supper" is good: it is only ever used to refer to what you get from a chip shop.
I'm still confused. So, in Scotland "Fish Supper" refers to fried haddock with thick chips (what I'd call wedges in the US). All good. In England, they make the same dish but with cod and with wedges. All good. You prefer the haddock.
You've also seen dishes labeled with the general "fish and chips" language that are simply fried fish of any kind with skinny french fries. I've seen that too. That's clearly not fish and chips.
So you prefer to label the lot of it as "fish supper" because that term subsumes all variants? Or no? What the hell is a "chip shop" anyway?
Good choice. Syrian bakeries are pretty good but surprisingly I never bought couscous because I wasn't able to found it in the shop. The next time I must ask the owner for a bag!
I'm still confused. So, in Scotland "Fish Supper" refers to fried haddock with thick chips (what I'd call wedges in the US). All good. In England, they make the same dish but with cod and with wedges. All good. You prefer the haddock.
You've also seen dishes labeled with the general "fish and chips" language that are simply fried fish of any kind with skinny french fries. I've seen that too. That's clearly not fish and chips.
So you prefer to label the lot of it as "fish supper" because that term subsumes all variants? Or no? What the hell is a "chip shop" anyway?
Ok cool. I hate to be pedantic, but I'm seriously unsure of how a "chip shop" relates to all of this, in relation to how you described it. Last question, promise. What the hell is a chip shop, and what do they serve in relation to all of this?
Reply to Noble Dust You only have to Google it ND. A chip shop is where you get a fish supper/fish and chips, mainly to take away ("to go") but some have tables. Other deep fried in batter items are available if you don't like fish, such as saveloys and Mars bars.
Yeah I kinda knew that but felt the need to press the question because I'm a dick.
It is a most serious and fascinating question which, as in all philosophical discourse, leads to others!
Cultural differences and lingo even within the same, small country.
Fish and chips is called a fish supper in Scotland, where haddock is used, not cod. Haddock tastes a lot better in my opinion.
Haddock :up:
Re 'a chip shop': aka a 'chippie' or 'chippers'. Hugely controversial, so a recent study was undertaken.
From the Courier:
The Courier:Most areas of Scotland had a firm chippie majority. With Aberdeen and Aberdeenshire the only areas to come out strongly in favour of chipper. Dundee and Angus bucked the trend of the rest of the...
And I wouldn't describe chippie chips as 'wedges'.
Here's an answer I agree with ( not sure about the US equivalent?):
No, potato wedges are called potato wedges in the UK. They are always made from unpeeled potatoes.
Given that UK chips are much thicker than French fries then the closest to them would probably be Steak Fries in the US.
Skinny chips called French fries in the US are, drumroll, called French Fries in the UK too.
Incidentally we call chips chips because they are made from potatoes that have been ‘chipped’. They used to always be properly called ‘chipped potatoes’ and still are in posh restaurants.
We call crisps crisps because they are made from sliced not chipped potatoes and are cooked until they are ‘crisp’.
All pretty simple really.
But not all chips are created equal.
Unfortunately, some chippies are closing down due to increased costs.
The best to be found are along the coast.
Freshly caught haddock and freshly cooked non-greasy chips. Yay.
As you might know, in Edinburgh and possibly more widely up and down the east coast of Scotland, they’ll ask you “salt and sauce?” The sauce they refer to is vinegared-down brown sauce (HP or similar). I say “No. Salt and vinegar on the chips, a wee bit of salt on the fish.” All sauces ruin the magic.
Hanover:It was hot as hell, but no one seemed to notice.
Ms. Marple:Most interesting.
Acclimatization? Wish we could do that with sorrow, life's arch enemy (re antinatalism). In the armed forces, it's called training for ... pain/sorrow. What sayest thou?
As you might know, in Edinburgh and possibly more widely up and down the east coast of Scotland, they’ll ask you “salt and sauce?” The sauce they refer to is vinegared-down brown sauce (HP or similar). I say “No. Salt and vinegar on the chips, a wee bit of salt on the fish.” All sauces ruin the magic.
Ah, there ya' go.
You can tell I haven't been in a chippie for a wee while!
The best ever I tasted was in Stonehaven.
A much-needed stop on our never-ending car journey up North on a Friday evening.
And handily opposite the toilets, just off the Square!
Agree with your tastes apart from I don't much like the wetness or taste of vinegar.
But if the chips look too dry, un petit soupçon...
I find they don’t respond to that kind of language in Stonehaven.
The Fife coast is another good place for a fish supper. Tell me, do you know why most chip shops in Scotland are Italian, but most in England are not? I myself do not know, so this is not a trivia quiz.
Given that UK chips are much thicker than French fries then the closest to them would probably be Steak Fries in the US
I believe the proper terminology here is "steak frites". Don't deny the French their influence. Oh, I guess that was already granted with French fries.
Would it be a better world if all global competition was restricted to who can make the best fish supper?
But for me, a single issue would remain. Can any deep fried fish supper beat an Arbroath smokie with chippie chips?
The sauce they refer to is vinegared-down brown sauce (HP or similar).
We call that malt vinegar. I was first introduced to that delicacy at Captain D's, which is similar to Long John Silver's, which I believe are the McDonalds' versions of "chippies," as I believe you use the term.
We don't have proper chippies so much over here, as fried fish really isn't all that good it turns out, so that cuisine stays relegated to fast food.
Now, if you want REAL seafood, you'll go to Red Lobster, home of the all you can eat cheddar cheese biscuits.
When, on the other hand, we have our wits about us, and are not massively misinformed or otherwise manipulated, then there is no important sense in which the outcome of all the interactions in the many levels or layers of “machinery” is not a free choice. That’s what a free choice is! It’s the undistorted, unhindered outcome of a cognitive/conative/emotive process of exquisite subtlety, capable of canvassing the options with good judgment and then acting with fairly full knowledge of what is at stake and what is likely to transpire.
two fish suppers (haddock deep fried in batter with chips, sometimes known as fish and chips, but in England they use cod,
Here in New England, when you order fish and chips, the menu often specifies haddock or cod, whichever is available. I don't think I know the difference. How can you tell?
Here in New England, when you order fish and chips, the menu often specifies haddock or cod, whichever is available. I don't think I know the difference. How can you tell?
Cod tastes a little more like haddock than trout, so that's how you can know it's cod
Reply to T Clark The taste and smell, primarily. How can you tell the difference between a lemon and a lime? Difficult to describe but clear to the senses.
Speaking of mouthfeel, I was just eating a pizza and I bit down on something hard, and my tooth hurts like a motherfucker. Holy fuck does it hurt. It sent a motherfucking shockwave through my tooth into my jaw and right through my brain.
You think it's just a bruise or do I need to go have them go rebuild my face?
Reply to Hanover
Three questions:
I recently lost a prosthetic testicle in a pizza shop, how big was the item you bit down on?
What exactly is a motherf*****?
Is a holy f*** not just an impolite name for the immaculate conception?
Three questions:
I recently lost a prosthetic testicle in a pizza shop, how big was the item you bit down on?
What exactly is a motherf*****?
Is a holy f*** not just an impolite name for the immaculate conception?
The problem is that I couldn't find anything hard in the pizza, so I think it's probably a fractured tooth and the pressure from biting caused the pain. What that means is that they're going to have to put the tooth in a cast and my mouth in a sling and I'll have to get crutches for my jaw. It's going to be a whole thing. I might have to get one of those voice synthesizers like Stephen Hawking. At least it will make me smart as shit.
The problem is that I couldn't find anything hard in the pizza, so I think it's probably a fractured tooth and the pressure from biting caused the pain
Holy F***! but please post a picture of your mouth in a sling and your jaw in crutches. I think such an image could be just the image I want to post in response to what some people post on some threads. :naughty:
I might have to get one of those voice synthesizers like Stephen Hawking
That could be cool, surely they have advanced by now and can offer you a synthesised voice like scooby doo or Yosemite Sam. You could be "the hootiness, tootiness, shootiness, wildcat west of the Pecos!' but that does not help me find my prosthetic or understand what a motherf***** is!
Perhaps I should ask my mother, at 85, she must know!
Wait a minute..... If my father....and my mother.....made me then was my father a motherf*****...are all fathers motherf******. Why are there no fatherf******. You Americans are all crazy!
You can take care of this yourself, really. People used to pull out their own teeth all the time to cut costs. All you need is a pair of pliers. Just get a firm grip and pull. The survival rate of DIY dental procedures is much better than DIY abdominal surgery. Be sure to make a video so you can post it on your YouTube channel. It should garner lots of views. .
Reply to Bitter Crank My father used to have teeth pulled and fillings installed without anesthetics. He was able to switch off his pain receptors somehow and just lie back cheerfully in the dentist chair. I'd like to say he was a yogi mystic, but in truth he was a untheorized Marxist from Amsterdam.
My father used to have teeth pulled and fillings installed without anesthetics. He was able to switch off his pain receptors somehow and just lie back cheerfully in the dentist chair.
They say Rocky Marciano and Jake LaMotta could do that. Perhaps your dad could have been a world champion boxer!
I think Robert De Niro (who memorably played LaMotta) could also do it. How else could he have taken being in movies like, Dirty Grandpa and Meet the Fockers?
Reply to Tom Storm
I can only suggest that addiction to collecting and storing money is the culprit in such cases and probably an obsession with 'maintaining a presence in the minds of the public.' Is being in really crap movies better than not being in any movie?
My father used to have teeth pulled and fillings installed without anesthetics. He was able to switch off his pain receptors somehow and just lie back cheerfully in the dentist chair. I'd like to say he was a yogi mystic, but in truth he was a untheorized Marxist from Amsterdam.
I can do the same, except instead of being able to shut off my own pain receptors, I'm able to be completely oblivious to the suffering of others.
Speaking of mouthfeel, I was just eating a pizza and I bit down on something hard, and my tooth hurts like a motherfucker. Holy fuck does it hurt. It sent a motherfucking shockwave through my tooth into my jaw and right through my brain.
You think it's just a bruise or do I need to go have them go rebuild my face?
I've experienced this a number of times - fractured tooth. It will hurt on and off, when chewing, for a couple months, then break off. It has always happened to me when chewing some type of chewy bread, sour dough, or big buns, so pizza dough is consistent.
Dinner:
Air fried wild caught cod breaded with almond and coconut flour, some potato starch, cumin, paprika, salt & pepper, and parmesan cheese. Served with asparagus rather than nasty chips.
A few days ago I went to the cheesemonger in Edinburgh but couldn't finish the cheese so I brought it to Turkey. Then yesterday afternoon, when purchasing sunscreen and water, I noticed a heap of fresh figs, and thus was born the idea for a dinner of cheese, figs and wine on my balcony, which I turned into reality.
Shropshire Blue, a Somerset cheddar, and Caerphilly.
Reply to Noble Dust You’ve shamed me yet again ND. I just got a glass from the bar and forgot to ask. I’ll find out for you tonight. This region of Turkey does produce wine, I believe, and this was the house wine, so it’s quite possible. I liked it but my wife hated it.
Reply to javi2541997
Hi Javi and Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
I ABSOLUTELY join you in welcoming in September. My soon to be ex is supposed to move out of the ranch today but I am willing to bet my last dollar that he won't be gone today.
I however am rebranding myself and feel SO empowered and excited about my life. :flower:
I know you guys wanted some follow up regarding my tooth, so here it is:
The toothman said I split the fucker from front to back, so he drilled the shit out of it and stuck pokey prongs in there to kill off the nerves so that it wouldn't scream when you touched it. He said to come in next week and he'll look see and decide if he can put a crown on top of that bitch and save its ass or if he'll have to yank it out my face. If the latter, he balked at my idea of hammering a shark fang in there, but said he could do something more traditional, like something that looks like a person tooth on a metal post.
I might just go get me some of those Halloween Dracula teeth you put in and save me some money, or maybe I'll have @Bitter Crank just do my dental work, considering he already figured out my problem and I fully trust his drill skillz.
Reply to Hanover So far this year I've had two crowns, a bridge and am waiting for a couple of root canals. Instead of a new chicken coup and greenhouse I get to chew.
Codeine is highly recommended for toothache. But use depends on how well you bowels move.
I broke my tooth yesterday and got the root Canal today, so there's no pain anymore. Actually called the dentist at 1:00 today and had the root canal at 3:00 and was out by 3:45.
Say what you will of American healthcare, but delays aren't a thing here.
Reply to Hanover A 45" root canal? The dentist had no patients ahead of you? I'm with Banno. The good dentists are busy. Was he licensed? Had he a degree? Was he wearing an ankle monitor?
Hmmm. I'm suspicious of dentists who are not booked to the hilt.
Just typed in "dentists within 5 miles of me" and there were 12, and I'm 30 miles from the city, so there's a lot of them.
Anyway, I've been going to my dentist for years and he worked me in. I will guarantee you can get a spot if you tell them it's an emergency here. I've never had a problem.
Not my dentist, but an example: https://lawrenceville.emergencycaredentist.com/?gclid=CjwKCAjwsMGYBhAEEiwAGUXJaXuMjGJ-N8KlS5REOxs9S66B8sSSywoYhcmHbnLmorDXmdNN4MDgTxoCXjwQAvD_BwE
Reply to Banno Average wait for dentist in US is 6.7 days: https://www.statista.com/statistics/964787/patient-wait-times-for-dental-appointments-by-speciality/#:~:text=According%20to%20the%20survey%2C%20the,new%20patient%20was%206.7%20days.
But I doubt most ask for anything sooner.
Australia is 26.7 months. https://adavb.org/advocacy/campaigns/public-dental-waiting-times#:~:text=The%20average%20waiting%20time%20for%20general%20dental%20care%20across%20Victoria,four%20months%20since%20June%202021.
When I had shingles near my eye, I was at the urgent care at 8 am, at the ophthalmologist at 10:30 am, and had my Rx filled in the drive through on the way back to my office.
That's for public dentistry. The free stuff. About 1 in 9 cases. Pretty bad, but not applicable to those with money or private insurance. I'm all in favour of including dental in Medicare, the nationalised health scheme, in order to reduce those waiting times. Vote Green!
Are there free dental schemes in the USA? What are their waiting times?
Are there free dental schemes in the USA? What are their waiting times?
Medicaid provides free dental care for minors at county health clinics, and only emergency care for adults. I knew a guy who got locked up for drinking and driving and he took advantage of the free dentistry while in jail. So that's an option, but he described some regret in that decision, but he had a weak relationship with good decisions.
Another option, and this works well for discounted movie tickets as well, is to say you're a kid even though you're not. I offer this suggestion because I'm just trying to think outside the box to find you a highly sought after slot at the county health clinic. I don't know the wait times, but I'd think most delays would be caused by patient hesitancy. While you're there, you can also have them check you for STDs and I think they'll give you some free condoms.
You know how you look a horse in the mouth to check his worth? We sort of use dental health to assess the worth of people here, with your value declining with each chipped or missing tooth. That joke would be funnier if it weren't true.
You know how you look a horse in the mouth to check his worth? We sort of use dental health to assess the worth of people here, with your value declining with each chipped or missing tooth. That joke would be funnier if it weren't true.
Reply to Jamal At first I was thinking "Ooo you global Jetsetter, you!". And then I thinked "it's only like buying a mango in cairns and eating it in Melbourne...
Be careful with root canals (I had 9) and individual implants. Average cost for me was 5k for Root canal and implant.
I finally found a dentist with my health in mind not what money he had for his pocket. I wanted an implant and he said "Stop throwing your money away and let's do full implants.
Gorgeous smile 36k and I am going to be in finals made of cubic zirconiam. No more fear of my teeth and the pain, no more outrageous bills, just a one off. At 5k a tooth, it's pretty easy to see the value. I didn't have that kind of money but it was necessary for my overall health, no exposed roots that can carry crap into my blood giving me a low lying infection and no more pain.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I had a complete rebuild done about 5 years ago -- or thereabouts. It cost under $40,000 to crown all of the teeth (molars with gold, the rest with lithium silicate. It was mostly for function, less for appearances, though the new teeth look great. They work much better, no pain, and I no longer have these vicious cheek and tongue bites from short teeth. I had the work done at the U of M Dental School, graduate prosthodontics department. The U does high quality work and for less cash, BUT they are not fast. I spent many, many hours in the chair.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Some people just seem to react more to vaccinations, antibiotics, and so forth than other people. I don't know whether that's good or bad. It is what it is, I suppose.
A guy I work with saw his father go through shingles, so he got vaccinated and he told me he had a rough couple days from the vaccine reaction. So get it on a Friday so you won't miss work, but it still sounds much better than shingles.
Do they yank out dental implants from corpses? I got no problem with a cadaver implant if it'll save me a few bucks as long as they wash the taste of the guy's last meal off them. Or maybe not if he ate or drank something good, like a fine Turkish wine from @Jamal's cellar.
Thinking more about it, I want to see through a dead man's donated eye's while I taste his wife's breath still present on his also donated dental implants that she gave to him the moment he departed. All the while as he choked to death on a popcorn kernel.
I know. You guys were all thinking the same thing. I'm just the one who said it.
I got no problem with a cadaver implant if it'll save me a few bucks
If you get a dental implant, chances are good that cadaver tissue will be included. The cadaver bits are not connected with getting a used implant. All but the least reputable dentists make fresh implants. Cadaverous bone material is packed in around your (hopefully new) implant to form future bone to hold the implant tight. You might get human cadaver bone tissue, or bovine bone tissue.
I watched episode 1 of The Rings of Power on Amazon tonight. This is a prequel to Lord of the Rings trilogy. It takes place in the Second Age. Galadriel and Elrond are Second Age characters that live on into the Third Age when LOTR takes place. Most of the other characters will be new.
Some of this story was told in supplement to the LOTR trilogy, and some of it was in the Silmarillion. I read that Amazon paid the Tolkien estate $250,000,000 for rights to produce the 5 year series.
Liberties are being taken, of course, and this complicated story is less familiar than the LOTR plot line. The production has a rich visual quality. Naturally, there is a certain amount of creepiness here and there.
I'm not sure I can picture myself watching this show dribbled out episode by episode for 5 years.
Why are there no fatherf******. You Americans are all crazy!
It is implied, oui monsieur? When you F your mommy, you F your daddy! Sisterf**ker lost its sting since incest of that sort is allegedly common in certain regions of the USA. Is this part of the so-called sexual revolution? Dunno!
Then there's also daughterf**ker! I can't wrap my head around that as of the moment. I believe shit like this happen.
What about Adam & Eve? At some point, a sister had to f**k her brother, then cousin f**king; the upside to all this, we're all related. :snicker:
Just watched the first two episodes tonight myself. I actually thought it was great, which I didn't expect. The liberties taken feel way more appropriate than those taken in the terrible Hobbit trilogy. At first I wasn't sure about it, but feel like I'm now addicted. I dunno. We'll see where it goes. [hide="Reveal"]I just can't figure out who "the stranger" who fell from the sky is; could easily be either Gandalf or Sauron, which is whacky in and of itself.[/hide] Overall, this second age period isn't well documented in Tolkein's actual lengendarium, so I'm finding it to so far be pretty believable at the end of the day, even though there's some stuff I don't buy. If they stay within the lane they've created so far I'll be pleased.
Seems to me there is just too much inappropriate sexual behaviour going on :naughty: but only the Americans could come up with a 'f*****' label for each relative involved. What was wrong with the generic 'incest' label?
What about Adam & Eve? At some point, a sister had to f**k her brother, then cousin f**king; the upside to all this, we're all related
Some Christians get past this one with 'god made Adam, (not to forget Lilith) and Eve FIRST, that did not stop it making others later. One is even mentioned in the bible with 'Cain was banished to the land of Nod where he took a wife.' Where did she come from?
:vomit: You could have a nice breakfast of Hungarian ghoulish after your cadaver implants are implanted, but you might pick up some of the personality traits of the pervious owner. Maybe you will end up with a strange urge to speak in tongue's. You might become a big hit with the evanhellicals!
Some Christians get past this one with 'god made Adam, (not to forget Lilith) and Eve FIRST, that did not stop it making others later. One is even mentioned in the bible with 'Cain was banished to the land of Nod where he took a wife.' Where did she come from?
This video addresses all those types of biblical questions.
Reply to Noble Dust I didn't see the Hobbit. In my mind, the book could not conceivably support 3 separate films, so I skipped it.
One of the elements the Second Age texts lacks are charming approachable characters. I hope the Amazon producers don't over-do it to supply them, but over-done will probably happen.
One of the elements the Second Age texts lacks are charming approachable characters. I hope the Amazon producers don't over-do it to supply them, but over-done will probably happen.
Yeah, most likely. They even milked that in the original trilogy, which I stilled loved. We'll see. Overall it feels similar but different from the Jackson aesthetic. Maybe I'm becoming less of a Tolkien stickler as I get older, I dunno.
I enjoyed two sausage patties, potatoes with green peppers and seasoning, toast and jam, and orange slices for breakfast. I consumed this feast at the home of the Grreat Gatsby. A wonderful host!
Solar power - Thought this was interesting. Couldn't find another good place for it. From Neurologica Blog:
[i]When I first started reporting about solar cell technology around 2005 the best commercially available silicon solar cells (photovoltaics) had an efficiency rating of about 11% (the amount of the sunlight hitting the panel that ultimately gets converted into electricity). They were expensive, heavy, and didn’t product that much electricity, but still it was enough for early adopters and we were at the beginning of the commercial solar industry. That was just before the inflection point when solar started to take off.
I remember reading many solar power news item, detailing some incremental advance, but still with some limitations and uncertainty. But slowly, inexorably, these potential advances added up. Every year solar panels because a little better and a little cheaper. Now silicon crystal solar panels commercially available have efficiencies of over 20%, they have a minimum lifespan of 20 years but many are rated for 35-40 years (and some report 40-50 years), and their price has plummeted, down about 90% compared to 2010. The ultimate potential efficiency of silicon solar cells is often cited as 29%, but using various techniques higher efficiencies have been reported, such as this one in 2019 reporting a 31% efficiency.[/i]
It's a good science/skepticism website. Read the comments on the articles too. They're often the best part. Link:
I have mixed feelings on patty people. Attention seekers, mostly.
Most often when I eat sausage for breakfast I take a good Italian sausage, remove the casing, and then squish it on the griddle to make it flat. So, am I a link or a patty person?
You've missed the point. This is a serious philosophical issue, like the sororities paradox - How many women in a group does it take to make a college social organization?
Anyway - if I squish a link does it become a patty?
This map shows the limits of the historic Storegga subsea slides that made a mess of the lands surrounding the North Atlantic about 8,000 years ago.
Google Earth is the greatest invention in the history of the universe. Better than the wheel. Better than fire. Better even than Goetz's Caramel Cremes.
Most often when I eat sausage for breakfast I take a good Italian sausage, remove the casing, and then squish it on the griddle to make it flat. So, am I a link or a patty person?
The primary difference between breakfast sausage and other sausages is the seasoning, particularly fennel and garlic, which you'd never find in breakfast sausage.
I was in Mexico and ordered the breakfast sausage and they served me an Oscar Meyer hotdog.
So, to answer your question, neither you nor the Mexican restaurant are link or patty people. You're both misplaced sausage people, doing with your sausages that which was unintended by nature.
And yes, it is incredibly hard and tiring turning everything into a penis joke, but no one here is willing to help me out. Please. guys come and give me a hand!
And yes, it is incredibly hard and tiring turning everything into a penis joke, but no one here is willing to help me out. Please. guys come and give me a hand!
Some of the moderation problems with this site would be solved by a branching discussion format.
It's easier to do readings with a branching scheme because the dogmatic grandstanders get isolated in their own branch. It makes it harder for trolls to derail as well.
Some of the moderation problems with this site would be solved by a branching discussion format.
It's easier to do readings with a branching scheme because the dogmatic grandstanders get isolated in their own branch. It makes it harder for trolls to derail as well.
Even if we all agreed it was better, we couldn't implement it on the PlushForums platform. Personally I much prefer the flat structure.
Even if we all agreed it was better, we couldn't implement it on the PlushForums platform. Personally I much prefer the flat structure.
One nice thing about flat is how it highlights quieter voices. That can bring a richness to discussions. The downside is that loud, dogmatic people can easily take over and set the tone.
With either format, the key to good discussions is some level of camaraderie and trust, I think.
Reply to Tate I've been saying for years that I'd like to move on the Discourse platform, and I believe that allows for branching/threaded/nested discussions. I might be tempted to at least try it if I had it available.
It was in response to a deleted complaint about something or other. @Tate's post is more related to features and suggestions. There's a thread for that too for future reference: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/30/feature-requests/p1
It was in response to a deleted complaint about something or other. Tate's post is more related to features and suggestions. There's a thread for that too here for future reference: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/30/feature-requests/p1
Reply to T Clark Sadly, the little daily baloney eater died an early death as a result of excessive fat and preservative intake. Where baloney was a rarity, children lived to ripe old ages and then died of something else.
Sadly, the little daily baloney eater died an early death as a result of excessive fat and preservative intake. Where baloney was a rarity, children lived to ripe old ages and then died of something else.
The forum's bologna has a first name
It's b-i-t-t-e-r
The forum's bologna has a second name
It's c-r-a-n-k
I like to read him every day
And if you ask me why I'll say
Cause Bitter Crank just has a way
With b-o-l-o-g-n-a.
I've been saying for years that I'd like to move on the Discourse platform, and I believe that allows for branching/threaded/nested discussions. I might be tempted to at least try it if I had it available.
Cumbrian, Cut it to bite size pieces, if you like. Make sure they are fatty.
Into a baking tray, pour lots of good olive oil, extra virgin cold pressed - it makes a difference. lemon zest, in strips, then the sausages and 6 cut par boiled potatoes, with rosemary, thyme, oregano, sage, bay... nice firm fresh herbs. A good handful of each; treat them as a vegetable, not a condiment. Capsicum, in bite size pieces, green olives - Sicilian are best - greens such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower. Add spinach or chard if you have it, but put it in first. Salt. Whole garlic cloves, don't bother to peel them, just squeeze onto the dish when served. More olive oil, the juice of the lemons, and some good vinegar on top. Keep everything in a single layer so it can brown in a hot oven, at least forty minutes. The aim is to make plenty of burnt crunchy bits.
The burnt pieces will be like shards of glass against my cracked tooth.
I shouldn't have gone to that unlicensed dentist. He was quick to get an appointment with though, and he did give me a close shave and a smart haircut.
Reply to Tom Storm Cheers. ...oh, and a couple of handfuls of cherry tomatoes. A strained tin is fine. Have a Bloody Mary with the juice.
Reply to L'éléphant So you get the version with halloumi instead of pork. Dead chicken also works. With all those vegetables, it counts as health food.
200? fan forced. Probably less time for the cheese. Judge it so the potatoes, greens and halloumi brown nicely.
I guess he'll have to find another recipe. We don't use your so-called "Celsius" scale here in the US. We use God's chosen Fahrenheit scale. We have to nip this kind of thing in the bud or we'll be on a slippery slope to Australian Communism. You know what they say - Give them a centimeter and they'll take a kilometer.
In England, miraculously surviving premature babies used to be measured in bags of sugar. They each weighed 1. That was the highest you could go. The world population was measured in Isles of Wight and how many people could stand shoulder to shoulder on one. Again, the population never went above 1. Rainforest loss was measured in numbers of Wales. It was 1 for every 1 year. Our problem was not a lack of imagination in measuring things. We just refused to count above 1.
Reply to Cuthbert In Australia, property size is measured in Belgiums. Small farms might be half or a third of the size of Belgium. Larger cattle runs range up to a half-dozen Belgiums
If a want just a drachm of sugar, and it's 4 pence, but all I have is a shilling, how many farthings change do I get?
The drachm of sugar is a red herring. You will get eight pence in change. If they give you the change in farthings then you will get thirty two valueless but attractive little coins featuring the monarch on one side and a cute robin on the other. You may pop a few farthings in the patronising charity box in the shape of a blind boy on crutches with a slot in the top of his head. A few more can go in the local wishing well. The remainder can be used as the front wheels of penny-farthing bicycles. Careful with the drachm of sugar, especially if it comes wrapped in a resealable plastic pouch.
For those around in the 70s, you'll remember when Jimmy Carter made efforts to move the US to metric, and we had kilometer per hour road signs litterimg our highways for a while.
Reagan nixed the idea, but so did organized labor.
"Organized labor fought it as well, according to Zengerle, so workers wouldn't have to retrain to learn the new measures."
So you see, it took a coming together of capitalism and Marxism to slay the dragon of metricism that now plagues the rest of the planet other than America.
I feel bad for you fuckers who still have to deal with the metric bullshit.
I feel bad for you fuckers who still have to deal with the metric bullshit.
I had heard that Napoleon was the one who implemented the metric system in Europe. F...ing tyrannical system of measurement! Turns out that's wrong. It was implemented during the French Revolution. Napoleon actually abolished it in 1812. It was reestablished later.
In school we called it the SI system - system international in French. Maybe we can fool people into using it if we call it that instead of "metric." "SI' is science. "Metric" is godless communism.
Reply to Hanover Even outside the USA, metrification still has some way to go. The French introduced a ten day week in the Revolution, but it didn't catch on.
Just read something in "Axios" I hadn't thought about in. There is technology, not yet implemented, to allow electric cars and trucks to provide power to homes during power outages. That seems like a big deal to me. That would influence me when I was buying a new car.
Reply to T Clark What I like most about the American measurement system is when you're working on your car and using a socket wrench. Under the metric system, if a 5 mm socket is too small, you go to a 6, and then try a 7. In the American system, if a 7/32 inch doesn't work, you go up to a 1/4, and if that doesn't work, you go up to a 9/32, and then a 5/16.
In America, you have to think harder, which is why we're smarter.
Also, if you use a metric socket on an American car, it'll look like it fits, but it won't, and it'll fuck up the bolt and slip off. Fucking metric dickhead trickery.
Reply to Jamal They should have 10 hour days with 100 minute hours with 10 day weeks and 10 month years with 100 day years. Just because the sun won't cooperate and we'll have days with multiple nights shouldn't slow us down. The math will be so much easier.
Reply to T Clark
Well, now you know what you were doing and where you were when King Charles III ascended to the throne of the UK! A wee tale to tell in your dotage, mine too, which I am sure, in my case, is not too far away.
Darren McGrady, who cooked for the Queen in the 1980s and 1990s, gave royal onlookers an insight into how the 95-year-old monarch likes her fish in a recent YouTube video.
He said the dish was often requested by the Queen when she hosted important guests at Buckingham Palace. However, he admitted it was a tad on the unconventional side.
He said heavily battered and fried foods were “a little too much for her”.
“The Queen wouldn’t really eat the fish fried in all that crispy, rich batter,” he said.
“She preferred a more refined fish and chips.”
According to Mr McGrady, the Queen likes her cod coated in a panko breadcrumb crust and baked in the oven, rather than fried in oil.
Reply to T Clark
Maybe I am too and don't even know it. Victorian, Georgian, Elizabethan age all seem to roll of the tongue quite well but how do you do this with Charles? Charlian? Charwellian? Charlesian?
Reply to Jamal
:lol: Really! Poor Charlie, better to end the Monarchy than be responsible for the age of Caroline.
What would it be if wee Prince wullie took over instead?
Reply to Bitter Crank
I wonder if her death will activate renewed debate about the monarchy in the UK?
I would love to see the end of the monarchy in the UK, just because I find the idea of Monarchs, a house of lords, the honours system, the British aristocracy, etc, embarrassing and backwards, but the majority in Britain (well definitely in England) seem to insist they continue.
Is Papa Razzi a nickname for the pope? If it was true that this was a Papel act then that could start a sectarian war in the UK. Oh, wait a minute, that's been the status quo for the past 100 years. Well ok, I might be exaggerating but only a little.
I wonder if her death will activate renewed debate about the monarchy in the UK?
I'm sure it will. The death of a reigning monarch is probably not the moment when calls would arise to abolish the royal system. A crisis of some sort would be a much better time to move for abolition: Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Do the English, in particular, think they are getting good value for cost from the royals?
Reply to universeness Down under, those against a republic (yes, we now have a king...) have been saying that we ought wait until the Queen dies before giving republicanism due consideration. But now they are saying "We can't consider it now, so close to the Queen's death". Next it will be "But Charlie III only just came to the throne, we must give him a chance..."
For those around in the 70s, you'll remember when Jimmy Carter made efforts to move the US to metric, and we had kilometer per hour road signs litterimg our highways for a while.
If I remember correctly, Canada and USA struck a deal to convert to metric, both countries at the same time, to simplify international trade. The Canadian citizens were forced by their government to learn new measurements. The Americans reneged. USA -1 Canada - 0. However, USA was stuck with a speed limit of 55 while Canada got 100. USA -1 Canada -1.
I just realized the queen died and it reminded me of that one time Jamal wrote something about the queen dieing. Prophet in disguise?
It was Prince Charles and he was killed by chimpanzees. Since he has become king I have considered updating it, but I had previously thought about how the story would be affected if, as seemed likely, Charles died some other way, and realized that it was better left as it was, that Charles’s chimp-unrelated death would only strengthen the slipstream feeling I was going for, the alternate reality aspect.
So now I’m thinking the same thing, that there’s no need to update it. On the other hand, the first line might have even more impact:
I don't know why, but when I heard the news that King Charles III had been killed by chimpanzees, I wept.
Reply to Banno
I do not understand why Australia did not become a republic long ago.
It's not like the Brit aristos or the brit establishment have ever displayed much affection or respect for Australia or its people. Using it as a penal colony or more accurately a place to dump its poor and hungry unfortunates was not a good beginning and then later using its brave soldiers, along with those from New Zealand as cannon fodder, in the way the Anzacs were used by Churchill at Gallipoli in WW 1. There are so many such examples.
I think Australia would gain a lot more respect on the world stage if they completely broke away from their pommie (prisoners of Mother England) keepers.
You could then claim back Kylie Minogue and Jason Donavan, would you want them back?
I have a long time Scottish friend who married a girl from Oz and he lives in Perth in Western Oz. He works as a scaffolder in the Kalgoorlie mines. He calls any Australian that supports the Brit Monarchy 'an Aussie Bawbag!' :lol:
I am English, visited friends in Melbourne in 1987 and went to dinner with parents of a friend. There were two 'Steves' at the dinner (I'm one) and Mum disambiguated me a couple of times as 'pommie Steve.' My friend Janet asked me with concern 'Steve, do you mind being called 'Pommie'?' I assured everyone it was not a problem. "Oh," she said, a wicked look coming on her face. ''Well, how about 'Pommie Bastard?'"
Do the English, in particular, think they are getting good value for cost from the royals?
Most who support the monarchy claim they are good value for money based on the tourism they attract and the positive global ambassadorial role they play. I don't concur with either claim. They are a horrible reminder of the days of enforced servitude and totalitarian rule. The idea of showing deference to some titled moron because of a backwards honours system or some ridiculous notion of birthright just makes me want to sharpen my pitchfork and go invade [s]Fuckingham[/s], sorry Buckingham palace.
I would NEVER bow to a monarch or use a title such as 'your majesty' or Lord or Sir and then their name.
The most monarchistic people outside of places like Essex or Cambridge, seems to be the London cockney's or some aloof Edinburghers, such as those who think that it still makes sense in modern Scotland to have some wacadoodle call himself a clan chief :rofl: etc. To me they still nestle some bizarre imperialist attitudes which are almost fascist in their hidden but deeply held viewpoint that the brits are superior to any other race! Wee Adolf would be so proud of them and is part of the reason why he saw the brits as natural allies and long-lost relatives (Saxons, Angles etc).
I'm a monarchist. I regard the institution as an insurance policy against dictatorship. The general public are extremely gullible, and can probably be persuaded to vote themselves out of a vote with little difficulty, for the politicisation of the courts, the replacement of the police by the army, or any other horror. However, as long as the tradition is maintained that there is a sovereign power vested in an individual by birth to ratify and legitimise the rule of the government, the place of dictator is occupied, and Borises and Donalds face great difficulty in taking full control.
I always prefer the more childlike response: (and I will deliver it with my best childlike voice') 'I'm telling my daddy you called me a bas****!"
I will then normally add (in normal voice), Oh, I forgot, he's dead and...... now you come to mention it ..... he was a bit of a bas**** at times.
Sometimes they don't get it, especially if I am trying to keep any TPF moderators happy (who we know can appear anywhere) by saying bas asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk, which sounds GREAT in a cave of echoes.
Sometimes they don't get it, especially if I am trying to keep any TPF moderators (who we know can appear anywhere) by saying bas asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk
Note that at TPF there is no law against profanity. Personally I think if you’re going to use such words you should do it openly, bawbag.
Gan canny, man, in NyucAstle yud get the bean stuck on yu for taakin like that.
If Scotland goes Independent, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Cornwall and a good few other guid places with guid people should apply to become part of Scotland, Ireland or maybe even Wales. Do I sound a bit bias? I am not anti-English just a little anti-southern English.
The best Glesga response to such an insult is 'aye yer maw!'
It would be good if a 'wan wi the heid' emoticon was included in those offered to members?
Would you be kind enough to suggest it at your next 'beano on mopeds,' with your fellow mods?
At least get your insults right, surely you meant 'typing pish.'
See! anurrer reason furra need ov a 'wan wi ra heid' emoticon fur respondin tae such cheeky bastericksees (I just invented that one with much help from Newkey boy @cuthbert)
I wonder if Fastrerick and Casterick would work as well to replace F****** and C***.
Ra teuchter would just mean the highlander, teuchter is just highlander or sometimes in the rougher parts of Glesga parliamo, 'sheep shagger.'
Ah right. I think one reason it has that status in my mind is that I'm not used to it, so when I read it it occupies the same space as "raw", like "raw bampot" vs "bampot".
Super whit? superlative? ur they no used tae help yi dae a big shite?
Yes.
Do you lot have cheuchter as well as teutcher? There were a fair few people back home who would use it as to refer to epididymus/cock pipe. Like your "manhood". Think it was some Irish influenced perversion, but I love it.
I decided to make something up too. And yes, you got it.
Good to know our Irish brothers (or yous bams!) seek to maintain their creativity.
From Google:
[b]There's no agreed derivation of the expression 'hunky-dory'.
It is American and the earliest example of it in print that I have found is from a collection of US songs, George Christy's Essence of Old Kentucky, 1862.
We do know that 'hunky-dory' wasn't conjured from nowhere but was preceded by earlier words, i.e. 'hunkey', meaning 'fit and healthy' and 'hunkum-bunkum', which had the same meaning as 'hunky-dory'. 'Hunkey' was in use in the USA by 1861, when it was used in the title of the Civil War song A Hunkey Boy Is Yankee Doodle. 'Hunkum-bunkum' is first recorded in the US sporting newspaper The Spirit of The Times, November 1842.
The least exotic theory of all, but almost certainly the true clue, traces "hunky-dory" to the archaic American slang word "hunk," meaning "safe," from the Dutch word "honk," meaning "goal," or "home" in a game. To achieve "hunk" or "hunky" in a child's game was to make it "home" and win the game.
The question of where the "dory" came from brings us back to our old friend "O.K." Children very often do not just say "O.K." -- they say "okey-dokey," thus engaging in what linguists call "reduplication," or the emphatic, joking repetition of parts of a word. "Hunky- dory" is almost certainly a similar product of reduplication by children who had won their game.[/b]
But hink a dory would be think a dory, I don't think that could mean 'everything is ok' so what meaning are you assigning to hinkadory? How about 'think of a story' or 'think of a story and tell it to me,' that could work, but only if you can see past the use of dory just because it rhymes with story.
Addition: The claim could be that the 'd' of dory replaces the 'st' of story to indicate 'Do the story' or 'tell the story'
I don't know why, but when I heard the news that King Charles III had been killed by chimpanzees, I wept.
Well having a King torn asunder as apposed to a merely prince does convay some sort of elloquence, putting it strangely. The monkey's would then have quite the royal pallete.
The plans for the day that I made while drinking coffee are not panning out.
It's kinda weird; I drank a Red Bull yesterday and it put me to sleep and I don't drink them more than once a week.
I am deeply under stress and have been for almost a year now. I am still booking hours at the gym but I am not sure if this is almost over or not. Fearful to look up and realize there is more burning for me to endure.
It's kinda weird; I drank a Red Bull yesterday and it put me to sleep
I think if stimulants make you sleepy, then you have ADD, which is funny because the paralegal who works with me who used to be a school teacher and worked with ADD kids just diagnosed me with ADD.
I always thought it was what made me so entertaining was how I would jump from subject to subject randomly, but now I'm to learn I've got a diagnosis.
Reply to Hanover It's a 'paradoxical' effect when drugs have the opposite effect -- sedatives that agitate, anti-depressants that make one more depressed, and so on. One of the first drugs used for ADD (can't remember the name) worked up until puberty then stopped working.
You could sample different drugs until you find one that has the desired effect. Some people get through life that way.
Reply to Bitter Crank
I never got cruise ships before Covid and am continually astounded that they still exist but KCII sounds even more dangerous if that is new recipe at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
I always thought it was what made me so entertaining was how I would jump from subject to subject randomly, but now I'm to learn I've got a diagnosis
Typical Hanoverian King type behaviour. You could be in line for the UK throne! Are you interested?
The House of Hanover (German: Haus Hannover), whose members are known as Hanoverians, is a European royal house of German origin that ruled Hanover, Great Britain, and Ireland at various times during the 17th to 20th centuries. The house originated in 1635 as a cadet branch of the House of Brunswick-Lüneburg, growing in prestige until Hanover became an Electorate in 1692. George I became the first Hanoverian monarch of Great Britain and Ireland in 1714. At Queen Victoria's death in 1901, the throne of the United Kingdom passed to her eldest son Edward VII, a member of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The last reigning members of the House lost the Duchy of Brunswick in 1918 when Germany became a republic.
It's a 'paradoxical' effect when drugs have the opposite effect -- sedatives that agitate, anti-depressants that make one more depressed, and so on. One of the first drugs used for ADD (can't remember the name) worked up until puberty then stopped working.
I understand this effect well, requiring massive doses of Viagra to flaccid me enough for the ladies to get some sleep.
Reply to universeness The fall of the House of Hanover occurred in the scandal when I accidentally fucked a goat, bringing shame upon the goat's family, resulting in their ejecting me from my ancestral land.
Reply to Baden
I wonder if the German city Baden-Baden really is so good that they really did name it twice?
For me, Baden contains Bad which is never good!
A fair point! :lol: But as an east end Glaswegian, I would just get very drunk on the wine, get lost in the forest and all the maidens would run off with guys called Baden. I heard women are always attracted more to the bad(en) boys!
The Hanover clan, being a rugged and outdoorsy bunch, would spend their winters lumberjacking, bear trapping, mountain climbing, and ice swimming.
To motivate ourselves, we would adorn ourselves in our most protective winter attire, put on our fiercest grimace, and sing the ferocious "Hanover Winter Song." Nothing could stop us after that:
always thought it was what made me so entertaining was how I would jump from subject to subject randomly,
It's everything I like about you that is the same in me.
I demand to remain undiagnosed and love hopping from topic to topic and I LOVE people who are capable of answering sarcasm with sarcasm. Those are my people!!!
Divest the lot of them, and give them an honest job.
I think they would all make great tourist guides. Turn all the palaces, towers, castles and cathedrals into state schools, hospitals and hostels for the homeless and let the ex-royals and ex-aristos, etc show people around. They could start with the words "This was where I used to live when playing the role of superior was the height of popular culture."
I'm a monarchist. I regard the institution as an insurance policy against dictatorship. The general public are extremely gullible, and can probably be persuaded to vote themselves out of a vote with little difficulty, for the politicisation of the courts, the replacement of the police by the army, or any other horror. However, as long as the tradition is maintained that there is a sovereign power vested in an individual by birth to ratify and legitimise the rule of the government, the place of dictator is occupied, and Borises and Donalds face great difficulty in taking full control.
[emphasis added]
I seem to remember my mother making the same argument when I expressed my negative opinions about royalty at a young age. They were needed because who or what would replace them?
I think I asked why would there need to be a replacement.
This could be the start of a thread...
The royal tradition: the relationship with governments and corruption.
Not everyone is against a dictatorship. I wish I could find it now but there was an article including the percentage of people aged 16 yrs to 20-ish who thought it a good system. Why?
I don't know. Perhaps it gives a sense of certainty? Lest we forget...
Previous generations were all too aware of the dangers of fascism.
Grandparents fought and lived through WW1 and then some. Parents affected by WW2.
But I think some of the royals had a fascination...flirting with Nazi ideology.
There is no guarantee that any royalty would protect against a PM taking increasing control.
Charlie boy being a King of Australia...just sounds plain daft, if not insulting.
The mantle or cloak of the divine hides their inherent historic and modern ties to dictators.
I am sickened by all that has happened, or hasn't happened, over the last few months.
A paralysis of parliament.
Channel 4 news included a few dissenting voices including one woman sitting alone on steps in Birmingham.
'The timing is all wrong....we are being ignored, what are we to do about increased prices, heating...'
It's not so much the timing but the prioritising of political posturing, pomp and ceremony.
The never-ending display of the rich and the powerful. Praise and platitudes. Who pays the price?
How mesmerising...for some. Frogs boiling.
Reply to Amity There is quite a strong argument against democracy, that it leads to short term populism. For example, the energy crisis will lead to the opposite of what is needed medium term, which is a move towards carbon neutral energy via insulation , public transport, nucullar etc.instead we will get fracking, and voodoo economic fixes. This is because politicians cannot afford to plan for beneficial results that they may not be in government to get the kudos for. On the contrary, the long term plan must always be to fuck things up and get the opposition in to pick up the pieces and take the blame, and wait for better days.
Oh, did I say I was sick of it? Understatement.
Can't bear to watch the TV but had a look at Guardian photos and updates on today's proceedings.
I heard the old lady died. I have not seen any coverage of her death or what's next. I don't watch TV or follow the news for the most part. So thankfully this particular episode of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha soap opera is passing me by, for the most part.
Reply to Jamal
Good morning from a bright and sunny Scotland. So far...
The Death of the Queen
Yesterday, there were some beautiful shots of the funeral cortege; from the top of the Royal Mile to Holyrood Palace. The mediaeval cobbled street lined with the public paying their respects.
That reminded me of your winning story (Comp2); your explanations, inspirations and so on.
Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast. The ancient traditions, the sense of claustrophobia, Titus dreading the pre-ordained life of ritual that stretched before him....
I wondered about another Prince Charles where he might have escaped all this pomp and ceremony...but now some sing, "Long Live the King!". And he waves and seems to enjoy it all.
Jamal:I don't know why, but when I heard the news that Prince Charles had been killed by chimpanzees, I wept. I'm a small-r republican and I don't care much for the class system. Vestiges of aristocratic power are not my thing. But there it was. There had been something inside me the whole time, waiting to break out. I wondered if, when it came right down to it, I was just a loyal subject of the Crown, experiencing my share of the collective grief along with all the others.
Anyway, that's it really.
Did you catch any of the Scottish part of the journey?
Good ole Queenie, timing it like that, huh?
Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast. The ancient traditions, the sense of claustrophobia, Titus dreading the pre-ordained life of ritual that stretched before him....
Yes, I too thought about Gormenghast, when I was watching the accession ceremonies.
I neglected to ask about your hols in Scotland and beyond.
Did you write any 'Wish you were here!' PCs?
I didn't write any postcards or even post anything on social media. It's as if I never went.
But I did went. Saw the folks, saw old friends, cycled around Cumbrae (Millport), went to Nardini's, saw a couple of shows at the Edinburgh Festival, stayed on a boat, got drunk on a bench in the Meadows, and swam in the sea. The last bit was in Turkey though.
But I did went. Saw the folks, saw old friends, cycled around Cumbrae (Millport), went to Nardini's, saw a couple of shows at the Edinburgh Festival, stayed on a boat, got drunk on a bench in the Meadows, and swam in the sea. The last bit was in Turkey though.
Thanks for the PC. Your wenting and waying sounds perfect.
Never been to the Isle of Cumbrae:
https://millport.org/
For me, as a reluctant driver and now wary of planning public transport, the West coast is a bugger to reach from the East.
Stayed on a boat. Not the Royal Yacht Brittania, then?
I remember a drunken autumnal walk through the Meadows. Kicking leaves and twirling.
Those were the days. So glad that some can still experience the joys :cool:
For me, as a reluctant driver and now wary of planning public transport, the West coast is a bugger to reach from the East.
We were lucky and missed the strikes. Train from Edinburgh to Glasgow, 50 minutes. Walk from Queen Street to Central, 15 minutes. Train from Central to Largs, about an hour. Ferry from Largs to Millport, 10 minutes. Not bad.
Stayed on a boat. Not the Royal Yacht Brittania, then?
Recently the old minesweeper that was rusting in the Water of Leith for decades at the Shore was converted into a hotel and named the Ocean Mist. It was nice but I preferred the mews cottage in Stockbridge the following weekend.
Millport is tempting. Perhaps I can persuade my personal chauffeur...but then where to stay?
I didn't stay in Millport but I can pass on a recommendation to stay at the Cathedral of the Isles and Collegiate Church of the Holy Spirit, which is the smallest cathedral in the British Isles and has a guest house.
https://cathedralguesthouse.co.uk/
If you have the time, tell Jenkins to take you the scenic route instead of the M8.
How do you manage to find such fabulous places to stay? :fire:
For me, scenic routes are a pleasure, even if at times a pain. Think tractors and harvesters.
As for Jenkins, he has no fear of the dreadful M8 and feels the need for speed.
I see there are a number of alternative routes, do you have a favourite?
My mother grew up in New York City. Sometimes when visiting her father, she took either my brother or me with her. She would often take us to plays. I saw Theodore Bikel playing Captain von Trapp in "The Sound of Music" in the early 60s. If I remember correctly, when I saw the play, Julie Andrews had replaced Mary Martin as Maria. Martin originated the role.
According to Wikipedia, von Trapp was the most successful Austro-Hungarian submarine commander of World War I, sinking 11 Allied merchant ships.
I took 141 through the lovely village of Monroe, enjoyed the scenery and just a bit of traffic. We then made our way south down to Dublin, where we enjoyed a perfectly prepared roast beef sandwich on an onion roll with a dash of horseradish sauce. We then avoided the I-16 rush and continued to the Golden Isles Parkway, through historic Hazelhurst and down to Jesup. The smell of the fresh air off the Brunswick harbor was delightful, and then we found our way to the golden isles, in particular Jekyll, where the titans of industry once resided.
It sounds so spectacular the way I've described it doesn't it? So much different than saying I loaded everything into the SUV, drove through the backroads of Georgia, ate at Arby's, and then went to the beach.
"Little Big Man" - Still my favorite Dustin Hoffman movie. The movie does a great job handling the broad scope and vast number of idiosyncratic characters and events in the book.
'Princess Bride" - The movie did a really good job of handling the book within a book feel, but in a completely different way than the book did.
'Tinker, Tailor, Soldier, Spy" and "Smiley's People" - BBC TV version. I wouldn't watch the more recent movie version of TTSS because Alec Guinness is George Smiley.
"The French Lieutenant's Woman" - The movie did a good job of dealing with the alternate timeline structure of the book, again in a completely different way than the book did.
Elmore Leonard's Raylan Givens books - Made for TV as "Justified." It really captured Leonard's style and way with characters and dialogue. He apparently was pleased with the show.
"Get Shorty" - Again Elmore Leonard.
"Odd Thomas" - I really hate Dean Koontz, but somehow the character of Odd is so appealing and compelling that I liked all the books in the series.
How about Linlithgow, Falkirk, Carron Valley, Loch Lomond, Erskine Bridge, Bridge of Weir, Haylie Brae?
:up: :clap:
You've given me much to think about, thanks.
If I decide to drive, then a few breaks along the way will be in order.
Also, a close eye on the weather forecast :cool:
John Chapple, the beekeeper at Buckingham Palace, reportedly informed Queen Elizabeth II’s bees of her death. Cue the mockery.
A spokesbee said that it was time to get the next show on the road by force-feeding a larva royal jelly. It also said that it was time to drive out the drones, so goodbye Charles. The spokesbee mentioned that bees were curious about how human larvae were turned into queens. What sort of larva was the dead queen?
Reply to Bitter Crank I made some chicken legs, baked covered 45 minutes seasoned with salt, pepper, and chili infused honey, then uncovered 15 minutes until browned.
It was an exceptional concoction, far beyond my usual results. Fit for a queen.
Half a century, huh? No' bad. Congrats. Keep it up :party:
Were you given the customary 50 'dumps' or 'bumps'?
Thanks. And no, I've always managed to avoid the indignity of the dumps. First because my birthday is during the school holidays, so when I was a child it was rare that my peers were gathered in sufficient numbers to administer them, and second because I have not had many birthday parties. Even this year, in which I am light enough to be thrown into the air by a medium-sized posse, I was careful to see my friends separately instead of all together.
In the quantum realm, something really can emerge from nothing.
empty space — the ultimate in physical nothingness
Collide two particles in the abyss of empty space
The Schwinger effect is now verified, and teaches us how the Universe truly makes something from nothing.
But also...
In the Universe we inhabit, it’s truly impossible to create “nothing” in any sort of satisfactory way.
If you take all of them away, however, the “empty space” that remains isn’t quite empty in many physical senses.
For one, even in the absence of particles, quantum fields remain. Just as we cannot take the laws of physics away from the Universe, we cannot take the quantum fields that permeate the Universe away from it.
empty space isn’t truly empty.
But again...
With electrons and positrons (or “holes”) being created out of literally nothing...
(my emphasis)
I don't want to belittle the progress in physics, but with this kind of reporting it's no wonder people are confused.
a condition where the raw ingredients to create your "something" didn't exist
nothingness is the void of empty space
nothingness as the ideal lowest-energy state possible for spacetime
nothingness only occurs when you remove the entire universe and the laws that govern it
So the journalist in this case switches between, on the one hand the second and third senses (where "void" and "empty" are taken colloquially, and not to imply the first and fourth senses), and, on the other hand, the first and fourth senses, which refer to states that either don't exist in physics or else aren't relevant.
Fighter pilots are being made obsolete by drones. :snicker: Humans are definitely being replaced albeit slowly by AI. It's interesting to look at what kinda jobs are AI-replaceable.
Thanks. Interesting. The article says something from nothing, but you're right, it's not really. The quantum vacuum is not really nothing. It's not that it's impossible to get something from nothing, apparently it's just impossible to have nothing in the first place.
@Banno
I appreciate your patience. It was a two shot against shingles. The pharmacist didn't warn me that I would likely be down for the weekend. It got so bad that I didn't want to get the second one. He promised that I would not have the same reaction and I trusted him.
Turns out he was right. The second dose was easy peasey.
Shinglex I think was the name of it.
My Mom had it on her face and was in a ton of pain. Hopefully I headed it off at the pass.
Yesterday I had an exam. I have been preparing for this more than three years. Sadly, I end up failing...
Probably nobody noticed my absence in these days but this was the reason. I felt like the stupidest boy in the earth but after crying out for my wounds I am ready to study again for the next test around 2023/2024. I need to be patient... :sparkle: :cheer:
If you don't mind sharing, what industry is the test for?
The test was for a public work. It is called land recorder. There were 182 topics included in the exam. But the exam is random and it only comes 4 different topics out of those 182. You have to study all of them because you will never know what the exam would holds.
I was completely lost in two of the topics in the exam
Interesting web search...
So...are you studying to be someone who might work for the county, who assesses and defines, or let's say redefines the flood zone that runs through half of our ranch?
Cause if you are....I have two positions on your soon to be cohorts assessment and how it affects the value of our property.
Shitz going down.. keep your eye on the Western sky...
Mom wrote my divorce attorney and cc'd me on it. AFTER she sent it. I told her she is channelling my Dad and she said "You bet!"
Yes, you are close. But the work I am studying for is based on national laws. I live in Spain and we do not have states or ranches here. We are centralist.
Exactly. But this specific job has more hierarchy than autonomous regions so the state is the only one with competencies. Another similar examples: Judges and public notaries.
Reply to Jamal The ex nihlio issue isn't just a problem for the big bangers, but also for the creationists:
Genesis 1:1 to 1:3:
King James translation: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light:"
Professor Friedman's translation: "In the beginning of God's creating the skies and the earth when the earth had been shapeless and formless, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and God's spirit was hovering on the fact of the water, God said, 'let there be light.'"
Void and chaos could be the same thing. If you're mind can't grasp anything because of the lack of form, for all practical purposes, there's nothing there.
Wrecked semi shoots load of dildos and lube all over I-40…
If God were funnier, this would have happened on I-69. Apparently he's not omnihumorous. He's just regular old funny, which is why he gets heckled sometimes.
American right-wing political commentator and author Matt Walsh has criticized casting of a black woman for the lead role in "The Little Mermaid" as scientifically inaccurate.
"With ‘The Little Mermaid’ can we can we also just mention that from a from a scientific perspective, that it doesn’t make a lot of sense to have someone with darker skin who lives deep in the ocean?” Walsh said. “Not only should the Little Mermaid be pale, she should actually be translucent. If you look at deep sea creatures or like translucent, they have no kind of pigmentation whatsoever. And they’re just like these horrifying, they look like skeletons floating around in the ocean. That’s what the Little Mermaid should look like. She should be totally pale and skeletal where you can see her skull through her face. And that would actually be a version of Little Mermaid that I would watch.”
I guess sometimes people sit around and say stupid shit and forget they're on TV.
Reply to T Clark A mermaid of color isn't as scientifically inaccurate as thinking there are mermaids at all. The first mermaid was a Syrian goddess, so she was probably not blond.
The first account of mermaids was found as back as 1000 BC in Assyria. In the mythical telling of Assyria, the beautiful goddess of fertility Atargatis cast herself into a lake and therefore transformed into a mermaid.
Here's a pointless propaedeutic to an analysis of these clichés:
I really wanted to like this.
I think everyone wants to like any book they've decided to read, so maybe it means, "I really expected to like this." Or maybe it's this: "people I respect seem to like this book so I wanted to be part of that crowd." I'm not sure.
I tried. I really did.
My guess is that this locution comes out of "Yes. Yes you did." and similar clichés from comedy. But what about the meaning? In most cases it's probably a lie: the reviewer tried insofar as they started reading the book, but beyond that I don't believe it. But if you don't like something, why should you read it anyway? So does it mean anything more than "I didn't like it"? They might want to assure us that they gave it a good chance, that they did not rush to judgement, which I guess is fair enough, but that should come out of the meat of the review. Why declare it at the beginning?
I'll tell you why. Beyond their horrible clichédness, these usages serve to draw attention to the reviewer rather than to the book. They're self-important where they should be offering informed and intelligent opinions about the book.
Axiom: it is best to ignore any Amazon or Goodreads book review that begins with "I really wanted to like this" or "I tried. I really did."
Any particular book you were interested in...?
How about we quote the first sentence from a review and then guess the title and author:
Not an easy book to get through from beginning to end, but still a monumental contribution to continental and critical philosophy, and indeed western literature.
I'll tell you why. Beyond their horrible clichédness, these usages serve to draw attention to the reviewer rather than to the book. They're self-important where they should be offering informed and intelligent opinions about the book.
I can't remember. Maybe Italo Calvino or Christopher Priest or Saramago. But you can find those kind of reviews all over the place.
Not an easy book to get through from beginning to end, but still a monumental contribution to continental and critical philosophy, and indeed western literature
I'll guess Kant or Hegel. Probably Kant's Critique of Pure Reason, given the "critical" clue. I can attest that it's difficult to get through.
I can't remember. Maybe Italo Calvino or Christopher Priest or Saramago. But you can find those kind of reviews all over the place.
Yes, I know. They stand out. However, if you scroll past all the zero stars, then you usually find the opposite exclamations galore, fab!!!!!!! And then the really helpful type, like a few posters here.
Not an easy book to get through from beginning to end, but still a monumental contribution to continental and critical philosophy, and indeed western literature. This isn't necessarily the first (or only) book you should read by Nietzsche (that would be Genealogy of Morals and Birth of Tragedy), but certainly not the last.
Once acquainted with the revolutionary, psychological and discourse based method of Nietzsche, this work is the perfect example of that method as applied to Christianity, western philosophy and ethics. It certainly laid the groundwork for Freud, Foucault and others - and here above all he is the true 'master of suspicion' in revealing the bitterness, bad faith and hypocrisy of standard, bourgeois moral reasoning. In that sense, Nietzsche is right when he claims in other work to be the successor to Voltaire and that Zarathustra is the successor of Candide. However, what skills he has in lyricism, he generally lacks in satire and humour. Nietzsche tries, he really tries, but is not a funny man - maybe it's the old translation?
However, as a master of suspicion, it's only right to turn that suspicion back on the author. Of course, he was a sick and unloved man, at odds with his time and resentful for that reason. He's a wannabe aristocrat without means or a true understanding of the steam engine or the telegraph. Therefore, as much as his tainted image comes from his obscure style and later misuse of his work, it has kernel of truth. There might be no direct line to National Socialism (Nietzsche would have fared more honourable than Heidegger - and would have despised their murderous nationalism and racism, thuggishness and obscurantism), but there is a line to thinkers like Gabriele D'Annunzio and Julius Evola that can't be denied.
It's bad faith and hypocrisy - and as such bad thinking and bad living - that his disgust (disgust at the modern world being a key mark of the superman) for the 'mob' comes from. We might call them 'normies' or 'sheeple' today. Nietzsche's anti-egalitarianism has to be read in light of his views on hypocrisy, and so there is key parallel to what Marx says about bourgeois hypocrisy, "This sphere that we are deserting, within whose boundaries the sale and purchase of labour-power goes on, is in fact a very Eden of the innate rights of man. There alone rule Freedom, Equality, Property and Bentham."
Today, the (liberal) left and right clearly share, if not the same moral assumptions, then the same meta-moral assumptions about methodology and reasoning, and a lack of true criticiality in how these assumptions are viewed - Nietzsche was right about that. In that sense, Nietzsche's 'transvaluation of values' is closer to the neo-Aristotelianism of 'virtue ethics' than Russell's quip about 'conquerors who speak Greek'. Hence, Schopenhauer, as the 'Soothsayer' is almost chief among the devils, but pride of place goes to Wagner, the 'Sorcerer'.
There is no engagement with Hegel in Nietzsche, or the 'societal ethics' of Philosophy of Right - but it is clear to me that the personal and psychological 'hypocrisy' Nietzsche identifies in this book, rather than a call to capitalistic individualism and philosophical subjectivism, was a warning about the type of people who are about to start the twentieth century. It was a fork in the road between industrial slaughter and pseudo-religious obscurantism that Nietzsche could sense, but as the poetry of this work shows, could not articulate clearly. It was a fork growing wider in 1890 that would be obliterated in 1914. As per the 'eternal recurrence', one of the most difficult ideas in Nietzsche's work and in this book, we can't go back to 1914, but we can spiral back as different people and turn the wheel again.
Reply to Amity Ah, makes sense now. Habermas was a bad guess because I wouldn't expect anyone to claim any of his books are a "monumental contribution ... to western literature". Nietzsche, yes.
I haven't read Thus Spake Zarathustra myself, only Genealogy of Morals and Beyond Good and Evil.
I haven't read Thus Spake Zarathustra myself, only Genealogy of Morals and Beyond Good and Evil.
And after that review, you're still not interested in reading TSZ? Quite heavy...
Not something you would write?
When are we gonna hear more about your novel?
From dead babies to Queen-size. Who fills them with what...and how.
There will have to be some kind of fatal fetishist or sweet soul involved. Both? More?
Already intrigued!
Working title: "Mountain Valley Footwear Chronicles"
The beginning of chapter one:
DATE: August 10, 2014
FOOTWEAR: Tommy Hilfiger Sneaker
CHIRALITY: Left
SIZE: Adult 13
COLOR: Navy blue/white
CONDITION: Poor
"A shoe!"
He looks over to where she is pointing. There's a navy blue Tommy Hilfiger sneaker, beaten and torn and lying in the dust at the other side of the road.
DATE: August 10, 2014
FOOTWEAR: Tommy Hilfiger Sneaker
CHIRALITY: Left
SIZE: Adult 13
COLOR: Navy blue/white
CONDITION: Poor
"A shoe!"
He looks over to where she is pointing. There's a navy blue Tommy Hilfiger sneaker, beaten and torn and lying in the dust at the other side of the road.
Already product placement x 2. Are you hoping to be sponsored?
'CHIRALITY'. Another new word. A forensic scientist logging the details? Hmmm...
'Footedness' just wouldn't be right...or left...
An exclamation "A shoe!'' - so, great detective work, not. Just a passer-by...
I was scrolling through Librivox and found something which sounded relevant and appealing.
[ [s]Apparently an ironic tale, it was written in 1909 by an eventual Nobel Prize Winner.[/s] ] *
Can you guess the title and author from this Amazon review? No peeking!
* Do not read the clue. Strike it from your mind!
Plot almost non-existent (and at times ludicrous), but as a portrait of a dying monarchy, a loveless childhood and some stunning writing, its worth a read.
No, sorry.
Here's the first paragraph of an Amazon review of Orlando:
I MUST be missing something. I am widely read, am in the middle of a degree in literature, and all of a sudden as part of my studies I have to read this mindless drivel. I can only guess that it is a kind of Emperors New Clothes test, where they see if you just blindly agree that because a famous author(es) wrote it, it must be good.
His highly symbolic and ironic epic novels and novellas, are noted for their insight into the psychology of the artist and the intellectual. His analysis and critique of the European and German soul used modernized German and Biblical stories, as well as the ideas of Goethe, Nietzsche and Schopenhauer.
Royal Highness is the story of Prince Klaus Heinrich, a member of a struggling German duchy and an exotic American heiress who comes to live as his neighbor. The novel is a microcosm of Europe before World War I, with Mann's depiction of a decaying society that is rejuvenated by modern forces. A true modern day fairy tale. (Summary by Margaret Espaillat)
Will see what my ears think of this translation. If the narrator's voice grates, then I'm done for.
He doesn't appeal to me, but let me know if he blows your mind or enchants your soul.
OK.
It seems I've mentioned him before. Only three years ago!
A search shows that I participated in a Hegel reading group. Hah. Who knew?!
Reading Group, Preface to Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit, trans. Walter Kaufman.
And here, the concept of Bildung : ( discussed earlier, para 21 )
The concept of Bildung—a word that means learning and education but also implies a cultivation of the self and of maturity—was central to Goethe’s thought, and he, in turn, made it central to German culture. For Thomas Mann, whose admiration of Goethe took the form of spiritual imitation, Goethe was above all an educator, but one who had first to learn, through experience, the wisdom he taught. Mann wrote that a “vocation towards educating others does not spring from inner harmony, but rather from inner uncertainties, disharmony, difficulty—from the difficulty of knowing one’s own self.”
— Adam Kirsch
***
If Mann admired Goethe, then he's good enough for me!!
Reply to Amity I recently began reading a really boring biography of Alexander von Humboldt (not a boring man, so I blame the author) in which many pages are taken up with an account of his friendship with Goethe. Goethe seemed like a cool dude.
May 2020 · The Four Different Meanings Of 'Nothing' To A Scientist (?)
Oct 2021 · Surprise: the Big Bang isn’t the beginning of the universe anymore
Dec 2021 · This is why physicists suspect the Multiverse very likely exists
Mar 2022 · Ask Ethan: Did our Universe really arise from nothing?
Sep 2022 · 70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from nothing
I really like Ethan Siegal. I've already read the most recent article. I'll go ahead and read the rest. Thanks.
Personal Narrative of Travels to the Equinoctial Regions of America, During the Years 1799-1804, Vol.1
In 1799, with extensive travel permissions from the Spanish government, Alexander von Humboldt and the botanist Aimé Bonpland departed for the Americas on a journey of exploration that would last well into 1804. In writing the “Personal Narrative…”, von Humboldt combined a description of the places and people of their travels with diverse scientific observations; but particularly of plants and animals, geology, weather and astronomy. von Humboldt’s narrative (and Thomasina Ross’s translation) of their adventures is marvelously well written and at times poetically descriptive...
Axiom: it is best to ignore any Amazon or Goodreads book review.
I've found that the three star reviews often have interesting and valuable things to say about the books and the products too. But you're right, even the grodiest grot books get 4.5 stars. Books that get four stars or less are often well written and given high marks by outside reviewers.
But if you don't like something, why should you read it anyway?
When I read how wonderful people say a book is, I want to read it and I want like it too. Sometimes that doesn't work out. Also, I often want to read the great books to show how sofistimikated I am. I read "Moby Dick" in high school and I'd like to read it again, but I never get past the first five chapters.
As I've noted before, I took a speed reading course and read "War and Peace" in 20 minutes. It involves Russia.
I'll tell you why. Beyond their horrible clichédness, these usages serve to draw attention to the reviewer rather than to the book. They're self-important where they should be offering informed and intelligent opinions about the book.
Self-reference - reviewing book reviews. I like it.
So, here's my idea - I'll start a new thread called "Buzz off fuzz nuts" and post it in the Feedback category. People can copy and link insulting or really stupid posts from other discussions. Only one response is allowed - "Buzz off fuzz nuts." This will help prevent cluttering up of substantive threads.
I'm sure Baden will move the thread to the Lounge. When I ask him why he'll respond "This is a pointless and trivial discussion. I should have deleted it but I wanted to be nice." Then I'll copy his post to my new thread and write "Buzz off fuzz nuts," but nobody will read it because it's in the Lounge.
A Ukrainian peasant finds a genie in a bottle. The genie offers him three wishes. He’s a stupid peasant but he knows what he likes.
The peasant says, “I want the Chinese to invade Ukraine from the east and then go back to China.”
So it happens and the Chinese army invaded Ukraine from the east and easily defeats the country.
For his next wish, before the genie can even finish his sentence, the peasant again asks for the Chinese to invade Ukraine from the east and then go home.
So it happens. And the Chinese defeat Ukraine from the east.
For his third wish, the peasant again asks for the Chinese to invade Ukraine from the east and go home.
“I gave you three wishes,” the genie cries. “Why did you ask for the Chinese to invade Ukraine from the east three times?”
Because to invade Ukraine 3 times they had to go through Russia 6 times
That might be the top "should have read it / should read it / will never read it" title, at least in American literature. I should have, should, and will never. I read Bartleby the Scrivener a Story of Wall Street a long time ago. It's much shorter than Moby Dick and doesn't have any whales in it. The take-away for this book is Bartleby's response to work-related requests, 'I would prefer not to." It didn't end well.
I didn't read War and Peace either. As English majors can attest, a lot of famous novels are too long and pretty dull.
However, both are or have been forced on schoolchildren, which I don’t approve of. They’re not childrens’ books. I’ve found that I don’t want to reread the books I had to read at school, and I think this is a common experience.
Yes, an old joke, but I laugh every time I use it. This won't be the last time you see it. By the way, I have read "War and Peace" the old fashioned way and it does involve Russia. I also enjoyed it.
I didn't get offended! It was funny, indeed. But it surprised me how an old TV show made some jokes about Franco. We always say here that nobody cared about us under Franco's regime...
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However, both are or have been forced on schoolchildren, which I don’t approve of. They’re not childrens’ books. I’ve found that I don’t want to reread the books I had to read at school, and I think this is a common experience.
Amen.
I don't want to abolish the canon of literature, and I have read and enjoyed great books; but I honestly don't see what is so great about some of them. Some of the greats are too long-winded for their own good, for one thing. For another group, too large an effort to bridge time and cultural differences is required for easy pleasure. And another--my own cultural horizons are kind of narrow.
I like what I have read of Boswell. One of my favorite pieces recounts his plan to resuscitate a man who is to be hanged for theft. They acquire the corpse very promptly, but alas, they can't bring him back to life.
A lot of 20th century American literature isn't irresistible either. Fortunately, there is enough good literature to keep us occupied.
Elegant bananas foster is made with sweet bananas cooked in a bubbling mixture of brown sugar, butter, rum, walnuts, and cinnamon, served over ice cream. Yum. :yum:
I’ll bet it would work with diced dates instead of brown sugar.
Reply to john27 Brits, get a grip: It's a cooked banana, not a plot to overthrow the monarchy (though, if cooked bananas would achieve that result, then let the bananas boil).
I didn't read War and Peace either. As English majors can attest, a lot of famous novels are too long and pretty dull.
War and Peace is great, never dull, with excellent character development, along with the parallel development of the character of the countries involved. Definitely not suited for children though, just like the classic cartoons, Looney Tunes and such. All the intellectual stuff goes right over their heads, and without the action it's dull.
Did I mention I read it in 20 minutes? Actually, I think it took me three weeks.
Three weeks is a pretty good time-lapse. Such big books took me even months.
I remember that Murakami's 1Q84 (first and second part) took like three or four months...
Australians often find this ad campaign amusing since Fosters is rarely consumed in the land of its origin. For a piss-poor beer we do actually drink try Victoria Bitter.
Australians often find this ad campaign amusing since Fosters is rarely consumed in the land of its origin. For a piss-poor beer we do actually drink try Victoria Bitter.
I met a man from Newcastle on a train to Newcastle who informed me of the same, which is that he thought Newcastle beer sucked.
I had once thought Jack Daniel's from my homeland was cheap redneck whiskey designed for getting drunk and stupid, only to learn from others later it was a fine product, but still designed for getting drunk and stupid.
The word "import" we are led to by believe means "better ," which is why Americans are loved the world over when they pay visits to foreign lands.
Reply to Hanover From memory Fosters had stopped selling in Australia in the late 1970's so the company Carlton United hired the once popular professional Australian stand-up comedian, Paul Hogan, to market the drink overseas and it went gangbusters when some advertising cocksucker came up with the slogan, 'Australian for beer'. Like Hogan, Fosters is considered bogus and embarrassing.
Three weeks is a pretty good time-lapse. Such big books took me even months.
I remember that Murakami's 1Q84 (first and second part) took like three or four months...
I really liked that book, although Murakami's style takes some getting used to. Everything, no matter how significant or odd, is done deadpan. The whole world is deadpan, matter of fact. I wonder if that's a Japanese thing. I don't remember how long it took me to read.
Australians often find this ad campaign amusing since Fosters is rarely consumed in the land of its origin. For a piss-poor beer we do actually drink try Victoria Bitter.
Reply to Jamal Yes, he has been criticized for their writing style because it looks so similar to Western literature. I remember he was in Santiago de Compostela back in 2010 collecting an award and some persons asked him about this debate. He answered: It is true that when you look into Japanese literature you want to read works related to the classics as Kawabata, Mishima, Tanizaki, etc... but Japanese society is not longer like them...
So he is a "modernized" writer but despite that I see a lot of Japanese stuff. For example: The role of female characters and the loneliness you can perceive in their stories (well this is how I see it :smile: )
The county fair is in town. I wonder who still goes to such things. It's like an old world, seedy carnival with rides, fixed contests for prizes, livestock shows, beaity pageants, deep fried foods, and two headed midgets that tell your fortune.
It's what I imagine dabbling with peyote might be like.
Currently researching the question of whether an online conversion into the Native American Church will afford me the same legal access to peyote use as afforded native born church members.
I'll keep you posted.
I previously paid a fee to become an ordained minister. If any of you guys die, give me a call, and I'll perform a discounted funeral for you. Be sure to tell me your preferred hole depth. Deep is expensive. Shallow and watery is more affordable.
Apparently he's died. The naming turns out to have been contingent after all. I'm expecting a national holiday, and nine straight days of mourning eulogies all over my tv.
It's like an old world, seedy carnival with rides, fixed contests for prizes, livestock shows, beaity pageants, deep fried foods, and two headed midgets that tell your fortune.
Australians often find this ad campaign amusing since Fosters is rarely consumed in the land of its origin. For a piss-poor beer we do actually drink try Victoria Bitter.
Whatever happened to Castlemaine XXXX? It disappeared from the UK at some point close to the turn of the millennium, was its disappearance related to the millennium bug? Or were the adverts just too rebellious against common health and safety advice in the UK?
These photos are all part of my new collection I call "Suburban Rhapsody"
Excellent! But it looks to me to be a left ear rather than a right. Was the camera on "selfie" mode? Maybe call it "Selfish Sub Bourbon Rhapsody". And see if you can get the bottle in the next shot, would ya please?
And, let me know when the peyote is secured, I'll be the first to join the congregation.
Reply to Banno Discounting the pinned discussions, the first religious discussion I can see when counting from the top of the main page is the fourteenth, so it doesn’t look like a big problem.
And they’re all by the member called Art48, so it’s not an epidemic, just an individual who posts about religion too much.
I’ve just had a look at one of them. A Christian using Christian teachings to criticise homophobic Christians. All quite commendable, but entirely non-philosophical, so I’ve deleted it.
I’ll share a recipe. I got it from a healthy eating recipe book I was given years ago. It’s a couscous salad and the combination of flavours is like magic, i.e., mysterious, surprising, and delightful.
Couscous
Pomegranate arils
Feta cheese
Apple
Yellow pepper
Black olives
Parsley
Extra seasoning is not required because the olives and feta are salty.
Last night someone asked me to delete their account. I can’t remember who it was but the name “ArielAssante” rings a bell.
I heard that can be the first sign, hearing ringing bells in your head.
'Do not ask for whom the bells toll .........
I clicked on the ArielAssante name, used as a quote for a reply in a post and it linked to 'deleted user,' so that's how I knew it was that member who was deleted and being the, at times, 'auld gossipy numbnuts' that I am, I wondered why.
Reply to universeness In the early nineties I worked at IBM in Greenock. For lunch and dinner the canteen provided a nice range of food but a large portion of the workforce had exactly the same thing every day: pie and chips*. This was baffling to me but at the same time it fitted with Scotland’s reputation as a nation of unhealthy eaters in which all vegetables except potatoes are never seen.
* For non-Brits who might be reading this, “pie” refers here to scotch pie, which is a high-energy mutton pie.
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In the LATE nineties, I worked at WA in Greenock, (aka Wellington Academy). For lunch and 'breaktime,' the canteen (aka food hall) provided a very limited range of cheap food, but a large portion of the pupils had exactly the same thing every day, scotch pie, chips and beans. This was perfectly reasonable to me as it fitted with Scotland's cunning plan to take over the world by producing many children who saw people who ate vegetables as 'consumable,' if minced and placed inside a scotch pie.
A pupil or teacher could get themselves beat up for using such 'weirdo words' as vegetable!
Oh how I miss those colourful crazy dazes.
When I worked at Mc O'Soft (the now defunct Irish software company) in the MID nineties, pretty much everyone ate Guinness for lunch. That was the only vegetable available. (Maybe there were potatoes for dessert but no one ever remembered dessert.)
"Desert in philosophy is the condition of being deserving of something, whether good or bad. It is a concept often associated with justice: that good deeds should be rewarded and evil deeds punished."
Does 'potatoes for desSert' exemplify the moral dilemma of what blurs the line between good and evil deeds? Or maybe I just drink too much Guinness, (a pleasant little porter!) when there is no more whiskey in the jar
In the LATE 90s, when I worked at a major insurance company denying benefits to whining injured people, I would eat at a Korean run soul food restaurant every day for $5 a plate, which was about 1000 calories per dollar. I'd wash it down with sweet tea that doubled as maple syrup during breakfast hours.
My favorite part of those days was capitalizing the word "late."
I've thought long and hard about which ingredients are essential, which non-essential. In a nutshell, it's far and away best with all the ingredients, but if you had to do without something it would have to be the pomegranate or apple. The magic for me centres around the feta, olives, yellow pepper, and parsley.
Yeah, I agree, one of the best ever. Most will get up to dance or sing along or move their feet to that one.
It's a very old song:
[i]The song's exact origins are unknown. A number of its lines and the general plot resemble those of a contemporary broadside ballad "Patrick Fleming" (also called "Patrick Flemmen he was a Valiant Soldier") about Irish highwayman Patrick Fleming, who was executed in 1650.
In the book The Folk Songs of North America, folk music historian Alan Lomax suggests that the song originated in the 17th century, and (based on plot similarities) that John Gay's 1728 The Beggar's Opera was inspired by Gay hearing an Irish ballad-monger singing "Whiskey in the Jar". In regard to the history of the song, Lomax states, "The folk of seventeenth century Britain liked and admired their local highwaymen; and in Ireland (or Scotland) where the gentlemen of the roads robbed English landlords, they were regarded as national patriots. Such feelings inspired this rollicking ballad."
At some point, the song came to the United States and was a favourite in Colonial America because of its irreverent attitude toward British officials. The American versions are sometimes set in America and deal with American characters. One such version, from Massachusetts, is about Alan McCollister, an Irish-American soldier who is sentenced to death by hanging for robbing British officials.
The song appeared in a form close to its modern version in a precursor called "The Sporting Hero, or, Whiskey in the Bar" in a mid-1850s broadsheet.
The song collector Colm Ó Lochlainn, in his book Irish Street Ballads, described how his mother learnt "Whiskey in the Jar" in Limerick in 1870 from a man called Buckley who came from Cork. When Ó Lochlainn included the song in Irish Street Ballads, he wrote down the lyrics from memory as he had learnt them from his mother. He called the song "There's Whiskey in the Jar", and the lyrics are virtually identical to the version that was used by Irish bands in the 1960s such as the Dubliners. The Ó Lochlainn version refers to the "far fam'd Kerry mountain" rather than the Cork and Kerry mountains, as appears in some versions.
The song also appears under the title "There's Whiskey in the Jar" in the Joyce collection, but that only includes the melody line without any lyrics. Versions of the song were collected in the 1920s in Northern Ireland by song collector Sam Henry. It is Roud Folk Song Index no. 533[/i]
Just listened to the new album from MUSE, 'Will of the people,' really good, but the anti-life people and the 'doomsters,' will especially like the last track, "We are all fucking fucked" :lol:
I decided against my normal use of f****** f***** or fasterisk fasterisked, as I did not want to dilute the words of the fantastic MUSE!
I've thought long and hard about which ingredients are essential, which non-essential. In a nutshell, it's far and away best with all the ingredients, but if you had to do without something it would have to be the pomegranate or apple. The magic for me centres around the feta, olives, yellow pepper, and parsley.
I tried it with dried cranberries for pomegranate and brown rice for couscous. :up:
Finished watching Ken Burns' "The U.S. and the Holocaust" on Public Broadcasting. It was very well done. Burns' style is very straightforward and the content is dense but well presented. It consists of three 2-hour segments.
In college I recorded Jay Ungar, Ken Burns soundtrack man, doing a live studio session in which he played fiddle, accompanied by a four piece. This was the EARLY TO LATE 90's.
I wish I can understand Reddit moderators one day. I am posting basic grammar questions in "r/LearnJapanese" and the modteam always remove my posts because of being simple questions...
I bet 150 € that the mods behind the hub are teenagers or even a worse an auto mod who is not working good.
Jesus is even older than me. He's celebrating his 2022'nd birthday this year though he has entirely forgotten which day it was and exactly how many years old he is. Back in the fifties, I wouldn't have been allowed to say that.
He's celebrating his 2022'nd birthday this year though he has entirely forgotten which day it was and exactly how many years old he is.
Well, it's not easy being your own father and asking yourself why hast thou forsaken me?
I wonder if Jesus would prefer a nice bowl of crispy fat chips with salt and vinegar and HP brown sauce to @Jamals "I've thought long and hard about which ingredients are essential" bland sounding concoction?
I’ll share a recipe. I got it from a healthy eating recipe book I was given years ago. It’s a couscous salad and the combination of flavours is like magic, i.e., mysterious, surprising, and delightful.
Couscous
Pomegranate arils
Feta cheese
Apple
Yellow pepper
Black olives
Parsley
Well, I substituted macaroni for the couscous and Velveeta processed cheese product for the feta and then left the rest out. It was great!
My wife has distilled the formula for all my jokes and sometimes she'll start telling what I think to be the funniest jokes I've ever heard, only for me to finally figure out she was being me.
My point being that you're just like my wife. Where's my supper?
My wife has distilled the formula for all my jokes and sometimes she'll start telling what I think to be the funniest jokes I've ever heard, only for me to finally figure out she was being me.
I was thinking about this some more. Seems like you're lucky enough to have someone who gets you. Not necessarily a common thing.
I was surprised to find that Burns' Civil War series was broadcast in 1990, 32 years ago; it doesn't seem like it was that far back. Shoah, a French production, was a 9 hour TV series in 1987, another very impressive documentary series.
As kids we were obsessed with Smokey and the Bandit and The Cannonball Run. Around that time a few people I knew were into CB radio as well, which may have been related.
As kids we were obsessed with Smokey and the Bandit and The Cannonball Run. Around that time a few people I knew were into CB radio as well, which may have been related.
I had a CB back then and I'd talk to nearby people. I talked to one lady about the squirrels in her attic. I can't recall the exact details, but every few nights for a few weeks I'd get back on and find her and bring the squirrel conversation back up. She seemed a little annoyed that I insisted on focusing on that topic, but not so much that she'd stop talking to me. I eventually grew tired of the CB and left the squirrel talk behind. Until now.
What about you? Any squirrel issues we need to discuss?
As kids we were obsessed with Smokey and the Bandit and The Cannonball Run.
I have the vision of a chase on a twisty turny Scottish road. They come around a corner and there's a herd of sheep in the middle of the road, so they have to wait to continue the chase.
What about you? Any squirrel issues we need to discuss?
I think you know I have squirrel issues and you’re just rubbing salt in my wounds.
Be that as it may, on the day I flew to Scotland my brother said to me—this is a true story and I might have told it here already—that he foresaw a squirrel encounter in my near future. Well, I went for a walk the next day and saw a squirrel in a Presbyterian cemetery. It was only a non-native American grey so it didn’t really count, but still, it made me ponder the nature of things.
I have the vision of a chase on a twisty turny Scottish road. They come around a corner and there's a herd of sheep in the middle of the road, so they have to wait to continue the chase.
I like it.
I’ve been stuck in a car waiting for sheep a few times in the Highlands, a few times waiting for goats elsewhere in Europe, and for semi-wild horses in the Pyrenees.
The main reason I liked Cannonball Run was Adrienne Barbeau.
I’ve been stuck in a car waiting for sheep a few times in the Highlands, a few times waiting for goats elsewhere in Europe, and for semi-wild horses in the Pyrenees.
I feel jealousy. All I've had to wait for are geese and cows.
Once in Iceland, some sheep got in front of my car and attempted to outrun the car instead of getting off to the side. I would slow down and so would they. FInally I had to stop so they'd get off the road.
I know you're thinking that can't be true because all my sheep stories must end with someone having sex with the sheep. Yeah, not this time.
Note the complexity of this joke. It makes fun of my formulaic jokes, showing I have nuance, self-awareness, humility, maturity, and charm.
It reminds me of the time I fucked @Baden's mother.
They come around a corner and there's a herd of sheep in the middle of the road, so they have to wait to continue the chase.
God cannot be invented until the sheep choose their path in Scotland. All gods bow to the Shepard. This commandment is written and will be done, lest the chip and the potato part ways. So sayeth the lord thy god., who existeth not! YEP, Friday night and I have been drinkin too much single malt! NEVER go onto TPF whilst totally pissed!!! I will regret this tomorrow morning!
I was at the park the other day and a ham radio group was stretching wires all around the trees I think to communicate with Mars or something and it made me happy to be cooler than someone else for a moment, but then I reported that on a philosophy website I frequent, and then I wasn't anymore.
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In many ways, and places, wind, as mechanical energy, offers a better source for power than solar. Tesla claimed to have figured a way to harness the power of the static electricity created by particles in the air rubbing against each other. That's what causes lightning. He was dismissed as having gone crazy by that time, but he was a genius, and invented AC electricity, though he probably made some enemies along the way.
How about Indiana?
We could hold it here, at Renaissance House near Rotherham, Yorkshire.
I know, right? They say completely flat farmland plus racism sparks the creative urge.
That looks like the place where creative ideas go to die.
What about this one? :rofl: :yikes:
I found a place in Indiana where you can buy cigs at state minimum price. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.1169198,-86.9777482,3a,75y,60.84h,89.57t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1s_lFF8X0DWHoLUHq-JJeL3g!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?hl=en
I think we've started something.
And right next door to the post office too :up:
:100: :rofl:
Looks short on parking. Could offer valet service though, I suppose. What am I saying, what sort of half-baked renaissance doesn’t have valet parking.
Good point. I think the important thing is to commission a tapestry or embroidery to commemorate the event. I'm hoping that Tracey Emin will oblige. Parking problems could be one of the themes.
I’ll take a Greyhound over to scope it out for us.
This time around, the cod piece has to match reality. Pumpkin pants, anyone? Better get used to ruffles and cod pieces.
No problem, I hear that cod pieces are making a comeback anyway.
I got one of my every-so-often emails from our friend Marco trying to get me to help him open an account. I see that an "invitation code" is required to join now. Thanks a lot Marco you little twerp.
How do people with a legitimate interest in the forum get a code? I see there are a few recent new members.
There was a radio station in Toronto that specialized in new music. And at Christmas time in Toronto all stations played for 48 hours (minus commercials time) the best of their genre. So this "new music" station declared ahead of Christmas, that they will play "the best new music of all times."
Maybe it was a joke. But I thought it was a joke.
I'm pretty sure you know what I'm asking.
Hmmm... :yikes:
You're right. I understood your expression. However, I was asking a different question. A rhetorical one at that.
*splutters*
It wisnae us :naughty:
But - aye, maybe...
We supped porridge, broth and custard oot o' the same bowl wi' a very, lang spoon :cool:
Perhaps pull this out of the Shoutbox?
I don't know enough about it...but I'm sure you do. Could enlighten us, perhaps :chin:
Hell's teeth. I wasn't getting at you. Did I sound like a school marm? :yikes:
I love the way the Shoutbox works sometimes to lighten the load.
The humour is appreciated.
It can also be a springboard for ideas that perhaps could do with more attention.
Your thoughts and questions intrigued me.
That's all...
Note to self: Work on communication skills :nerd:
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I'm offended! Porridge and custard were the original fuel of the philosophical revolution that propelled us into the modern age.
Can't decide which emoticon to use :chin:
:vomit: :scream: :lol:
I didn't mean to imply that the porridge and custard were mixed together.
I believe you, pie man :kiss:
You used a participle clause here. You seem well-versed and to-grips with the grammatical nuances of the English language. Would you agree?
:yum:
You mean to say people have stopped doing that? :yikes:
The Department of Undue Diligence has determined that the only people who use "woke" as a term of abuse are minute men, Southerners who, lacking the cod of their Northern counterparts, had to resort to sardines. It is a testament to the fecundity and patience of the Southern Belles that these minuscule men have not become extinct.
What's up, how are things?
:lol: That must be the karmic fate of those who are too much of a dick in life, to be reborn as a penis fish.
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Do you believe in demons and related stuff?
666 is connected with the number of the beast!
In most manuscripts of the New Testament and in English translations of the Bible, the number of the beast is six hundred sixty-six or ??? (in Greek numerals, ? represents 600, ? represents 60 and ? represents 6).
The beast's identity and the beast's number are usually interpreted by applying one of three methods:
Using gematria to find the numbers that equate to the names of world leaders, to check for a match with the scriptural number.
Treating the number of the beast as a duration of time.
Linking the scriptural imagery and symbolism of the Antichrist with characteristics of world leaders who oppose Christianity.
Jeez... :scream:
I’m looking to plant three trees within the year. I live in New Hampshire. Want to jazz things up a little. Leaning towards a Japanese cherry blossom. Anyone have any suggestions?
I love dogwoods. Great flowers and nice looking tree.
Lindens, also called lime trees. No flowers, but their leaves are dark green and the heads are very full and lush. To me, they're about the treeist tree around.
Quoting T Clark
Awesome suggestions — looked up both and you’re right: beautiful trees. Easy to plant and maintain?
I love cedars. A beautiful green colour flourish when they grow up
Great trees, linden trees. They're good to sit under on hot summer days.
Great trees. We have so many pine trees in NH, I personally feel like they’re too similar
I have no valid explanation other than I have had nothing positive to say about anything in life.
It is not fair, I know, I humbly ask for your grace.
I was the one that Dad called the police on because the verbal abuse Mom was enduring could not continue. Dad and I had our last stand and when the firefighters took him to Hospice giving Mom and I respit for 5 days, I knew he would never be back in his home, my parents home. It continued until the end. Such a horrible way to pass...facing death on Haladol is no way to cease living.
I was the one who went with Mom to pick up Dad's ashes and when we got home we brought Dad inside and she showed me where she wanted Dad's ashes, I had to climb a ladder with Dad. Cleaning off the top of the cabinet that gets dusted once a year, I realized that I was in the same physical place I had been in, where Dad made his last stand in life against me. Now I am putting him in a box of ashes on top of the cabinet, in the very place he last was, because of me.
Mom said that what happened allowed her to be his wife and no longer his caretaker/nurse. Dad never left Hospice. I fed him his last meal of his life the day he died. Macaroni and cheese, Diet Coke and ice cream for dessert.
I'm walking in a fog and not sure how to make it play out faster.
All of this while I am still in the divorce process, living STILL here at the ranch and am being deposed on Tuesday.
I know life issues fair but I need to catch a break....
Hence why I am not around because I can't burden others with this
The fact you can type out some of your thoughts and feelings here makes you a strong person in my view.
I hope things get better for you soon and all your friends rally around you.
I haven’t planted any trees in the concrete “backyard” behind my apartment building that I can access by hunching over and walking through a dirt floor basement filled with old office chairs, but if I did I would plant beech trees.
Don't worry. Please feel free to express your feelings here. I will read your comments and thoughts.
To be honest, I don't know how to help but only to listen carefully what you want to express. All you have written previously is very brave and I see it as a good choice instead of isolating yourself (this is usually worse).
I am sorry for the loss of your dad. I know it is not easy to deal with parents and other members of family. The situation can end up very chaotic if there are some differences among the members.
I understand your phrase: "it continued to the end" because my grandfather (an alcoholic) continued his bad actions until his end...
I think dogwoods are pretty easy. My wife planted one in our yard and it's grown well for decades with little maintenance required. I don't know anything about lindens, but they are a pretty common landscape tree here in Massachusetts.
If you go under most trees when the sun's out, you'll see dapples where the sunlight comes through the leaves - circular or oblong fuzzy patches of light. Under a linden, because their heads are so tightly packed, there are fewer dapples, but they are better defined. On a day when a total solar eclipse was predicted, I went out into the area outside my office building to take a look with protective lenses. When the sun was about half covered, I walked under the shade of a linden. When I looked down, each of it's dapples, dozens, was a circular patch of light half covered by darkness. I'm not sure if I've ever been more surprised. It struck me like a gong. Dapples under trees are not little patches of light. They are, all of them, little images of the sun. I think about this every time I go under a tree when the suns out. It still amazes me.
Very cool.
I'm considering this where I am too. Generally I go for evergreens and Australian natives - given my location. But I am very partial to Japanese Maples.
Ash trees are out of course, thanks to the emerald ash borer.
Honey locusts are a pretty good tree -- they have very small leaves that turn yellow in the fall. There are a lot of them along Minneapois streets. Avoid Black locust trees. They have horrendous 2 inch thorns. They would make a very good defensive hedge. They are considered invasive (even though they are a Native American tree. They will take over prairie and turn it into forest. Black locusts are prohibited in Massachusetts and Wisconsin, which gives you a clue.
There are a couple of cherry trees you might consider for their decorative quality -- the Amor Cherry and Siberian Cherry. The Amor is a fairly small tree with shiny brass colored bark. The Siberian is a larger tree (at least it was at the arboretum) and has shiny copper colored bark -- beautiful.
These are show trees; probably not very wind resistant. The Amor tree we planted split.
The US once had millions of elm trees shading the streets of cities and small towns, In 1937 a shipment of elm logs from France to Cleveland, Ohio arrived carrying the fungus. It reached Minnesota in the 1960s and by 1985 most of them were dead.
Why were the French shipping elm logs to the US in the first place? Pate foie gras I can see, but elm logs?
Maybe it was a plot. Beware of wooden shipping containers from China.
Quoting Metaphysician Undercover
No shit! Actually, several pestilential invasive insects have arrived exactly that way. Biological warfare, obviously. Nuke 'em. Oh wait... where will we get all our stuff afterwards?
We have a big number of these species here too. The smell of semen could be unbearable!
That's hard to swallow.
Broken limb of my semen tree.
What's not to love?
Yes.
The sign was referring to that road leads us to the centre of Madrid :joke:
:rage:
Quoting Jamal
It ain't over 'till it's over, so you might as well take it.
Thanks for the clarification :chin:
I think I forgot to reply to this. Forgive me.
Existing members can send an invitation to an email address by going to their profile > Edit profile > Invitations. I assume this sends an invitation code. A few of the new users were spam accounts, invited by a spam account that was created before we restricted registration. The others, I think, were people who got in touch via Facebook or something.
People who want to be members should also, ideally, be able to send an email to [email protected] to request an invitation, but that inbox has disappeared and I still haven't got around to setting it up again.
EDIT: email now fixed so they won't have to go to facebook to ask for an invitation.
Wait, so how do new members join? I'm confused.
Once that's fixed and we pin a message about it on the main page, it'll be pretty good I think. I mean, once that's all in place, maybe we don't need to open things up again.
EDIT: email now fixed so they won't have to go to facebook to ask for an invitation.
Sounds overly complicated.
Y'all think it will best them while also ushering in new posters?
Oh, is that how it works? I signed out and clicked "join" or whatever, and it just had "invitation code", then "email", then "password".
But I sense you're still confused or concerned.
Quoting Jamal
Just wondering where this bit happens.
What have I missed?
It's probably me, don't sweat it.
Quoting Jamal
I guess philosophy folks are probably on facebook, but no one else is, so this is kind of funny. But whatever.
Quoting Jamal
Also doesn't strengthen my trust in this system.
Whatev's brah.
The problem right now is that all emails to that address are getting lost. I need to fix that.
Quoting Noble Dust
I don't get paid for doing DNS setup for TPF, and the email setup in particular is not critical for ongoing operation (though it's important, I know), and I'm fairly busy, and it's a hassle. Shoot me!
EDIT: email now fixed so people won't have to go to facebook to ask for an invitation.
Keep on keeping on, you're doing good work. :up:
The burden of greatness.
@T Clark @Noble Dust
UPDATE
Fixed it: our email inbox is now working. Thanks for forcing me to do it ND.
The problem was the nameservers and DNS for TPF have been spread between various locations at different times, including CloudFlare and 123-reg, and the email was going through Webfaction, which is now defunct. I had to bite the bullet and try and recall what was pointing where. As it happens I just had to add a few MX records to CloudFlare and set up forwarding to my everyday email address.
I'll add a message to the main page so that wannabe members know how to join.
This sounds strange.
I don't do Facebook, so I have no idea what the page looks like or what it says.
If it hasn't been set up by you, and you have nothing to do with it, then is there a disclaimer to that effect? If not, why not?
If it uses the same 'The Philosophy Forum' title and appearance, then is that not of concern?
Even if you agreed to this when it first started, I think it is confusing.
Why was it set up anyway?
To draw people here? Or to have an alternative site?
I note TPF has a copyright 2022.
How does this apply to the Facebook page?
I hope Facebook doesn't draw people away...to the detriment of the real TPF.
How many TPF posters go there regularly?
Just curious :chin:
To you and team:
Keep up the good work, y'all :hearts:
If you don't see a problem with that, then everything is fine.
But that was then, this is now.
*shrugs*
None of my business.
Hope both places stay well :sparkle:
From the great does the mother get its name, from the small doth the father, nameless beginning to unwind. So greatness is a burden, but it's greatness is not it's whole, it's carried by the soul where it bestowed.
And by the way Jamal, that's this post.
Stop all the clocks, cut off the telephone,
Prevent the dog from barking with a juicy bone,
Silence the pianos and with muffled drum
Bring out the coffin, let the mourners come.
Let aeroplanes circle moaning overhead
Scribbling on the sky the message He Is Dead,
Put crepe bows round the white necks of the public doves,
Let the traffic policemen wear black cotton gloves.
He was my North, my South, my East and West,
My working week and my Sunday rest,
My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
I thought that love would last for ever: I was wrong.
The stars are not wanted now: put out every one;
Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
Pour away the ocean and sweep up the wood;
For nothing now can ever come to any good.
W H Auden
Indeed! Why haven't you fixed Putin's invasive tendencies already? You've had several years to get that done, and still no progress.
Ahem...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brass_Eye
:up:
Quoting Jamal
You have my blessing.
Quoting Noble Dust
It's fine. I just thought you'd enjoy it more if I whined a little.
You are absolutely correct in that I asked to take over the Facebook page that was created during our transition from our old sandbox. I don't remember who set it up, it may have been me or Mayor of Simpleton as we were trying to give everyone the chance to get here if they wanted.
I am sorry for my lacking on the Facebook invitations. I ask for the grace of understanding that it took me weeks to tell you about my Dad's journey and I have been unable to open Facebook because I have not been able to share on my personal Facebook, what happened and what I am still embroiled in fielding a divorce unfolding.
I will log onto Facebook tomorrow and grab any messages from it and communicate with them if they are interested in joining.
Tiff
Sorry to hear about your Dad.
For the love of God, should I post it?
I don't do facebook either. Jamal should not have allowed it, in my opinion.
Warning: arctic bunnies are the cutest!
Humans rule!
But don't have their own superpowers.
I beseech you, in the bowels of Christ, don’t do it.
This applies for ever and ever, amen.
Apart from not liking facebook, any other reasons why you think that?
The break-up and transition from the old to the new TPF seems to have brought its own challenges.
Perhaps there are a few unspoken regrets about allowing it but what can be done in any case?
Moving on...
:sparkle:
There are user agreements drafted by forum owners. Think of an operating agreement. There does not have to be a mark, but just a written agreement. While it is probably true that posters own their own posts (which is another reason why someone should not just copy the posts from here to facebook), the site itself is an intellectual property of the owner/s. It baffles me that someone could just open another copy of this forum in facebook and the owner of this site has no say in the matter. It's worrying.
(Also, while one may not think of selling this site in a million years, imagine if a third party came forward and wanted to buy it. Then, there's a copy in facebook which has not been authorized)
I don't use FaceBook either, don't like it, loathe Zuckerberg, etc. My understanding (based on some very old information is that some items are copied over. It isn't a mirror of this site (at least I hope not).
message @ArguingWAristotleTiff and ask her what is being done. I believe she is the one who started the posting on FaceBook.
In the first few months of this site, we were concerned about becoming visible on the web. I think we are now visible and don't need FaceBook's help, if it was any help. I would just as soon we had nothing to do with FB.
Thank you. You articulated well what I couldn't :fire:
Quoting Bitter Crank
Knowing more about the background, I agree :up:
I haven't had a problem accessing the site. What happens in these cases?
I've never been active on the FB TPF page but I'm an admin and I don't mind deleting it. Looks like nothing is going on there. @ArguingWAristotleTiff, I don't think we need it any more, do you?
To everyone: if you've been experiencing difficulties accessing the site, let me know.
It baffles me that you're worried. It was set up as a promotional page. There is no copy of TPF on Facebook.
To be fair, when I mentioned the Facebook page yesterday I forgot that it was probably me who created it when requested by Tiff. At least, I'm an admin and I can delete the page if we want.
Nothing to worry about.
By the way, there haven't been any recent changes to the system.
That is very strange then, but thanks for looking into it.
The problem could be on my end, I suppose, but I'm not having difficulties on any other site.
According to PlushForums on Twitter, the last downtime was July 30:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/PlushForums/status/1552545009655848962?s=20&t=2tbcnt9c9fmclLRyN9_8jQ[/tweet]
Among those, the only thing that could have risked affecting access to the site is the DNS changes I had to make to set up the email, but all I did was add email records without changing the www records, so I'm pretty sure that's not the problem.
Jamal does so many terrible things here on the forum and, I assume, in his life outside, it seems pointless to whine about something so trivial.
Yes and my loyalty to my family here has not waivered. I humbly ask for two months before shutting down the Facebook page if it is not a problem.
It's not much in the scope of social media presence with 600+ followers but some only want to see the FB feed then be active here.
As in the beginning, it is not my choice to keep open or close the FB page but at the moment it is something I value, I have just been put in a position that my only way to communicate electronically is through my phone.
My classes start up again as the summer is almost over and I am working on resurrecting a laptop that right now is a brick.
I'm sorry for not being present, not just because of my lack on the Facebook page, but because I love many friends here and I, like right now, break down emotionally and can barely see the screen through the tears ...
Fuck
Thanks for setting up the FB page. There is no reason whatsoever I am aware of that this should be in any way controversial. At the time it was set up, we were trying to build up a presence and well, why not? Much love. :heart:
This quote is from @Pie's thread "What is truth? said jesting Pilate; and would not stay for an answer." I was going to post my response, the attached video clip, but I didn't want to disrupt the thread. So, I'll put it here:
It's clear to me, in this case, that "P is true." is different from "P."
Quoting Baden
I think the problem was that Jamal gave the impression of having no control over the Facebook page.
This has now been clarified. Jamal has responsibility as an administrator.
As a result, I hope that @ArguingWAristotleTiff receives much more in the way of support.
Sending love and best wishes for the future :sparkle:
Now you and the elephant will have to find some other way of causing trouble. :wink:
Never mind the :wink:
I'm sending you the Evil Eye.
Which emoticon...?
:angry: :rage: :brow:
That'll have to do...for now :naughty:
I don't mind a detention period.
@ArguingWAristotleTiff I hope you're doing fine. Don't cry.
Were you sick or something for a while? You haven't been here lately.
I do stop by every day and check out new topics, how many pages the Ukraine thread is up to and what Hanover said in the Shoutbox. And then there are the worries of the day -- the would-be-very helpful-timely-passing of Trump and Biden, for instance, and then which devils will replace them. Taiwan and Ukraine, China and Russia, and so on. It keeps me busy.
Wow! I regret I have missed it!
David Lynch, is that you?
Quoting Bitter Crank
Perhaps you might relate to Gen Z's "vaporwave" music genre:
That song is actually so good!
Here you go:
As you should.
:up: :fire:
You can hear the sample for it at around 2:42:
Excellent. Let me share another vaporwave song with you:
Nice mood on that, but I wouldn't categorize it as vaporwave.
Lo-fi song maybe?
I would describe it as hi-fi pseudo-hip hop? Nothing about it is lo-fi.
:up: :100:
No disrespect to you AT ALL @L'éléphant I know your intentions are totally supportive but honestly @ArguingWAristotleTiff CRY, CRY CRY! as much as you want to or need to. It's human to cry when your hurting and it's healthy, trying to hold that back just causes more pain. Cry until your all cried out.
On a recent night out after too much alcohol. One friend told us his mother had died, which brought on a lot of different emotions in the group, obviously supportive but about 20 mins later three men in the group were all in tears. The friend who had just lost their mother and two friends who lost their mothers many years ago but..... the memories. ...... they run very deep.
The last one!
Star wars sample....and then fake lo-fi stuff. I like it. Kind of like how I like McDonalds.
Thanks so much!!! I won't be searching out vaporware albums, but I do appreciate the opportunity to briefly sample the sounds the barbarians at the gate are listening to.
The sort of stuff I groove on is a little bit different. Erich Korngold made a living writing music scores in Hollywood, but his concert pieces rely more on his native Vienna influences (or so it seems to me). His violin concerto is one of my favorites, up there with the classical greats. At the same time, this would fit right into a 1940s film. He also wrote operas.
That’s essentially what vaporwave is.
I’ll check out the Korngold when I get home. I’ve always been more into solo piano works when it comes to the classical world, but always open.
Freaky.
Late lunch: Two boiled eggs topped with Kewpie mayo with leftover three bean and bell pepper salad on the side. I'm trying to get better about using up ingredients and leftovers when I'm low on food instead of being lazy and eating out or ordering delivery.
Is the baby on the bottle indicative of who it is made out of or who it is made for?
3-bean salad, with or without bell pepper, is another summertime culinary horror story, like macaroni "salad" with bits of cheese and raw celery. Disgusting. Bland, revolting texture contrasts (like nuts and celery in Jello), too many earth colors, etc.
As repellant as it is, 3 bean salad is probably nourishing enough, what with boiled eggs and fat baby dressing to complete the proteins.
All I know is it's the best mayo money can buy. Made with only yokes rather than whole eggs.
Quoting Bitter Crank
What sociopaths in MN are putting bits of cheese in mac salad? I imagine MN as the epicenter of the jello salad endemic that threatened American life in the 30's-60's, or whenever it was.
Quoting Bitter Crank
My three bean salad consisted of kidney beans, cannellini beans, green beans, red and green bell pepper, capers, red onion, and parsley with a simple vinaigrette of Syrian extra virgin olive oil, freshly squeezed lemon juice, Dijon mustard, sugar, one clove of freshly chopped garlic, and salt and pepper. Tasty.
My mother did it.
Quoting Noble Dust
Absolutely -- 10,000 lakes and 10,000 variations on J-E-L-L-O. Some people put a little bowl of Kraft Miracle Whip in the middle of the vegetable Jello ring (complementing the shredded carrot, chopped celery, chopped walnut abomination) - the height of elegance. Yes, they used to make vegetable-flavored Jello.
This gives you some idea of the dietary degradation visited upon us:
My mother fed me under-seasoned tofu stir fry growing up. Perhaps we can relate.
Quoting Bitter Crank
I'm aware. Recession cuisine, yeah? I've actually had really good macaroni salad, but beyond that I don't mess with it much.
For dinner I tried my hand at Cacio e Pepe for the second time, with the wrong pasta, and it was actually pretty good. Emulsion was successful, pasta was just a hair under-cooked. It hit the spot.
I missed the photo but I've seen similar. What a time to be eating food.
Better to be a hair underdone than having the daylights boiled out of it.
In fairness to my mother, we didn't get macaroni salad very often. I think it might have been a last ditch item. Summer meals were generally heavy on fresh vegetables (beets, beans, tomatoes, cucumbers, Swiss chard, lettuce, corn) with a cooked meat at lunch and maybe a warmed up protein for supper. She was a good meal cook as well as making bread, cake, pie, pudding, etc. In the fall squash showed up often--one of my favorite foods.
She's been dead for 30 years, and had stopped cooking a few years before she died.
I have no idea what you're talking about.
Quoting Bitter Crank
Also seems very Minnesota, but I get the vibe. Green bean casserole sort of? If it's just green beans with half and half that's gross. Green bean casserole, on the other hand, with dairy and crispy onions, etc., is a favorite holiday treat for me, since my mom never made it. She's a health nut. I can still rely on one of my aunts to bring it.
Quoting Bitter Crank
Cool it was available; I think of it as a hipster green. Love Swiss chard, but don't eat too much of it; you'll have problems.
I'm not a squash person but I suppose I could revisit.
Wow, no attempt to let the orchestra bow, total trash.
Either Green Giant or Bird's Eye came out with a frozen microwavable green bean mushroom risotto a few years ago, then it disappeared. Too bad, it was pretty good.
Glad you liked the Korngold piece. And thanks for the lydian mode information.
Doesn't look like it. I just flagged your post and it doesn't toggle off. I suggest that you simply apologize to misclick.
Sorry, but we've already taken action against Miss Click. That stain will forever be on your conscience.
I go through times of strength and times of crumbling. One of the hard parts unnecessary in any person's grieving process is my soon to be ex husband barbing me with crap like:
"How can you sleep all day knowing that you burdened Mike in his final days with paying for your sniveling demands because you are too spoiled to support yourself.
One day you will learn that you must do for yourself."
My job is a student and he sees no value in my goal of being schooled as a Liscened Clinical Social Worker. He believes that I deserve nothing in spousal support and thinks that he raised the family and has been the financial provider, essentially he created all that we have built on his own.
It's simply not true. In his asking me to leave my career to come home and raise the family, we the thmade a choice to become a one provider family. We each worked and each of us have been successful.
My job was to raise two boys, into ethically bound children, loving, empathetic, productive members of society. My job was to run the ranch. From the cooking, laundry, cleaning helping out with our company, caring for the horses and fighting every battle we encountered as a couple (house fire, candle injury) as well as the budget for the ranch.
NicK is narrssistic, misogynistic, asshole.
It's a mindfuck and if I didn't share with close friends about what he says? I would think I am losing my mind because he denies saying it.
I'm exhausted emotionally, spiritually and physically depleted. It's one of the darkest times but I am not alone. I have my boys, my dogs and my health. The rest really can be replaced. Been there, done that, got the backine for ServePro.
Deep sighs.....I'm just coasting on the river of the unknown
Bullshit, and I don't think any court in the land will buy his take on it.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
Candle injuries are the worst.
Some people fight dirty and try to hit you where they think it will hurt most. The best response is to not let them hear you scream but to become more calmly determined to fight your case.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
It's what the court/judge believes that matters, not an acrimonious accuser.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
Tough times, but they will end. It's darkest before the dawn. As you correctly said, you are not alone.
I hope you get a fair settlement on the identified marital assets and any other financial settlement you are due. Messy but you must ensure you get what you are legally due.
I am with those who hate to start fights but once started, I will fight back hard.
What does it mean to be a licensed clinical social worker?
What does the job involve?
How far through your training are you?
What have you learned?
What would be useful practical advice for a client in a similar position?
Other than talk to your friends...and 'coast on the river of the unknown'...
Would you use any philosophical counselling? Refer to any other supportive specialist?
"You can’t just be wackadoodle because it’s a place established by an artist" the former director of the Chinati Foundation said. They run an art museum in Marfa, Texas.
Second, a reviewer of WRONG PLACE WRONG TIME described the premise of the novel as "wackadoodle".
I've no memory of wackadoodle appearing in the NYT, so why twice on one day? Clearly standards are sliding when 1990s neologisms are populating the pages of the Gray Lady.
I wish you like this amateur photo I took with my phone :lol:
BTW, I could do that blindfold.
In 2 words: Emotional manipulation.
https://www.choosingtherapy.com/emotional-manipulation/
But I'll keep :zip:
Peace :victory: and Love :heart:
I know what you are saying and the state is a 50/50 state, which Nick knows but believes he is not going to be subjected to. We were married (still are) in 1994 and the loose formula is spousal support for half the time of the marriage if you make it past ten years.
What I am aware of is that it feels like an old boys school mentality with the attorneys but are appearing before a female judge. The bottom line is that we could go before ten different judges and get ten different outcomes.
My deposition is over. I feel like a weight is lifting and a brighter day ahead.
Mom is coming over to help me pack up sentimental contents of my breakfront so it will be easier than me getting caught up in the emotional weight a lot of what is in there.
Thank you for your hopes of a fair shake.
Losing everything material in our house fire, after I got out our the little kids and all but one dog (that was saved by a Firefighter) I realized that even though I lost my everything that I had aquired since I was born, I had everything in the world that mattered alive with a heartbeat, the "rest" was replaceable.
Like you, knock me down and my comeback is mean as fuck.
If that's the way you think then you won't go far wrong in this world.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
:strong: :smile: :up: :flower:
Great questions!
There are more positions than I can list of the careers of a LCSW. You can sit in an office of a hospital as a Social worker who consults with patients on a variety of areas. If you want to work as a therapist who listens to people's problems, with the dedicated time a LCSW can become specialized in say Marital therapy or singles therapy. Schools are over run with the need for LCSW's.
My particular niche is being created as we speak here in Phoenix. My final destination after obtaining my necessary education is to become a member of the CIT Crisis Intervention Team.
The city of Phoenix was awarded a grant over 10 million to be spent over three years in creating the CIT. At this point in time the "brass" of the Phoenix Fire Department and the Phoenix Police Department are receiving the training necessary to work on a three prong approach to responding to crisis that doesn't require a specific response but is still having a crisis. A blend of Fire, Police and a mental health representative is what is being created. My goal is to be eligible and capable of being that last of the three prongs.
I like brief, intense, emotional states that I can help descalate with the knowledge I am learning. I have no desire to sit and listen week after week about someone's ongoing problems.
I want to be the safe person for someone who is in a mental crisis, usually induced by taking drugs or not taking drugs, for people to call, still employed by the state, but being that safe zone to handle the calls.
In Oregon a group called CAHOOTS has been operating for 50 years without losing a volunteer.
Here in AZ we are building a paid team that should aleviate 20% of the calls coming into 911.
What that means is our specialized resources such as the Fire Department and the Police Department, will be available for dispatch instead of trying to mitigate a kid who took something that is causing a bad trip to the parents of a child who may not have taken his medication and is not thinking straight and is on the roof.
I could go on but the niche's are limitless and the nations need for mental health care workers is huge. I graduated in 2021 with dual Associates degrees and am ready for University. It's a matter of my inability to pay my tuition out of my *temporary spousal support*.
Yes, I am very supported professionally. I have been in and out of therapy since May 2020 when Nick had an aortic dissection.
I currently have a therapist who has her Masters and is a former instructor but has been hired on part time as a social worker and as a student, I am entitled to 10 visits but she is still taking care of my therapy needs. I am also certified with the fire department as a CERT member (Community Emergency Response Team) and have made connections within the fire house family and have utilized their offer of therapy as well.
My philosophy leanings have been shared publicly and that is the Karmic banking system that I believe in. I can make karmic deposits and karmic withdrawals, the goal is to make as many deposits as possible and as few withdrawals needed. I lean on that idea hard and know that I am not in control of anyone but me and I am choosing a trajectory of onward and upward.
Most informative as to the particular niche being built.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
Yes. And a whole lot of other long-term interventions...prevention is better than cure.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
So, this is mental health crisis intervention from an emergency social care worker at the end of a phone? What de-escalation techniques are used?
Is it similar to this 6-step model:
Quoting verywellmind - What is Crisis Intervention? by Dr. Amy Marschall
Or is it much more than this?
Interesting to hear of your philosophical leanings. I'm not sure I've read of them here.
Perhaps elsewhere? Or I've missed it.
I typed in 'Karmic banking system' and only got one hit, the one below:
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
If that is a strong belief and one you lean on hard, how would you use that in any crisis intervention?
Right now, I don't understand how that would fit in...
Not sure if the Shoutbox is the ideal place for this but I think it deserves further discussion.
Thanks again.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
Glad that you are receiving professional support from people who do desire to sit down and listen to ongoing problems on a weekly basis. Perhaps not 'firefighters' but equally important.
Will you likewise be involved in counselling actual firefighters, policemen, anyone else in the team?
'Suicide rates among firefighters reach alarming levels.'
https://www.inmyarea.com/research/firefighters-need-saving-too
As before, I wish you all the very best :sparkle:
Great photo. Can I screen dump it and add it to my library of copyright free images?
I use them for guides for my oil paintings or when I try to create illustrations using my graphics tablet.
I need illustrations for my current attempt at writing a book. Hobbies are essential after taking early retirement.
Quoting Baden
So, I point out that a thread is engaging in bigotry and I'm off topic? That's ridiculous. It's pitiful self-justification. You should be ashamed.
That being said, I'll bow out and let you boys play your game and call it "philosophy" instead of what it really is.
Quoting Baden
Pitiful.
Absolutely, yes my friend! Thank you so much for saying that you liked that much! Appreciate it!
Quoting universeness
Agreed! :100:
You made your point and got your answer. There's nothing else to say in the thread about your complaint. If you want to take it further and try to get some community support, you can open a feedback discussion. That is the way things are done here.
Pitiful.
Not at all, thank you for your permission to use it. It would be great in a digital composition involving wolves looking upwards or small children looking up and pointing in wonderment etc, so many potential uses. Thanks again. I will add it to my 'moon' image folder.
Excellent! :100: :flower:
Whether it's bigotry is a moderation question. If it were, the process would entail warnings, deletions, and up to banning by a mod. The process doesn't involve non-mods trying to interfere and distracting from the thread by complaints about how it's being moderated.
That's not saying you're outside your lane and your opinion isn't open for consideration. It's just saying if you have nothing substantive to say on topic other than what youu'd do if a moderater, then open up a feedback thread and do it where it will be on topic.
And that your didn't do, but instead did it here in the Shoutbox. If you've got more to say, I'll move this over there.
How come you, a moderator, get to keep commenting but I'm supposed to stop. You should open up a new thread if you want to continue this discussion.
Why does Hanover seem to be in everybody's to-do list?
That shouting match between Hanover and T Clark started a long time ago when Hanover substituted the cabbage in T Clark's vegetarian salad with kielbasi.
My first installment will be tomorrow., but to give you guys a teaser of what my posts might be like, here's a quick example:
Today I well know that I overcooked some steaks, to which my wife declared them perfect, which means that many of the other moments in our lives where she declared the moment perfect might not have really been so either.
"And that's what makes things perfect."
See, a pessimist would have given a final line saying:
"And that's why I can't trust anything."
It's not the events that define our lives. It's the perception.
Bam! Deep shit right at you!
That's going to be my signature sign off I think.
Thinking mine's going to be "Don't talk to me, poser!"
I'm glad you asked. This is The Foodbox, after all.
Leftovers: A sort of one pot thingy of couscous, chicken thighs, chorizo, jalepenos and onions with some roasted red pepper hummus on the side. The couscous didn't quite cook right so it's a bit sloppy, but still good. The hummus isn't homemade but it's the best I've found in the city, from a Syrian bakery not far from my apartment.
I'm aware of the hippie dish known as Rainbow Stew, which is a pot of simmering everything left over. This reminds me of that, but I'll admit I never made my own nor sampled anyone else's.
Rao's Arrabbiata sauce, 5 oz. 92% lean ground grass fed beef, coarsely chopped vidalia onion, high protein Italian noodles. Some of the raw onion was on buttered bread. Topped with dried parmesan cheese -- the smelly kind that's in a plastic jar with holes in the top for dispensing. None of that shredded waxy stuff.
:yum: :100: it seems to be pretty tasty!
My dinner was just green beans with hake fillets... :lol:
You're just eating raw onion on bread? We need to talk.
Cheese always comes in cheeses hence the name. If someone is selling you some dry powder that smells and trying to convince you it is cheese, shoot them.
Have you seen the film "We need to talk about Kevin"?
Oh boy, you haven't lived :smirk:
"Get eatin' yer onions!", Miriam shouts with glee as she crunches one apple-like. :fire:
A hilarious scene in Epsiode3 of 'Miriam and Alan: Lost in Scotland'. Full video of all episodes.
If you wanna bite into the raw, including sexual benefits, fast forward to 1hr 55-ish.
In a field of onions...even the incredulous farmer admits, "It's actually not too bad..."
Alan feels his libido increase every second. Miriam feels an explosion in her mouth.
Alan feeds off this, there's so much he wants to say.
"Well, button up, lad" says Miriam.
"Too late for that..."
It's not always banter between them...tears are formed, with or without onions.
Aw, shame! I see the video isn't available. Perhaps, somewhere else.
Anyway, the secret is to start off with a bite of cheese and then alternate.
Think hard Scottish cheddar.
Bon appetit :cool:
Yew w0t m8?
You heard.
Get yer juices flowing, man :sweat:
Err, okrrr.
On Friday evening I cycled down to Shabolovka to meet my wife at the Odessa Café. I went the long way, along the river, so that I could relax about calories. At the restaurant I had a pile of fried fish. They’re the small ones, some sprat or sardine relative, which you can eat whole without too much bone trouble. I don’t eat the heads, but you probably can. To go with them I had three beers. The beer they have there is called Heidegger Hell, which is amusing.
On Saturday morning I made a grilled cheese sandwich, and also had some watermelon, which is coming into season here now, with feta cheese. My wife told me that watermelons are berries and I expostulated on the difference between culinary and botanical nomenclature.
Later we had pad thai. Delivered, not homemade. Drank rather too much Georgian red wine.
On Sunday we went to Khamovniki to a place that has good breakfasts, because although I offered to make her an omelette, she insisted on going out. I cycled and she drove. I had the so-called "Champion's breakfast", which was poached eggs on toast with avocado and a spinach and pine nut salad on the side. It was all right, but the eggs, though perfectly cooked, were cold.
Our table was at the edge of the terrace and we watched the Yandex delivery robots arriving and leaving with food. My wife didn't manage to finish her "Mexican breakfast" so I ate half of her quesedilla and most of her chili con carne soup. Capuccino and orange juice.
We then decided to go to the Indian festival at Dream Island. Again, I cycled and she drove. The festival was very big and busy and lively. My wife revealed that many years ago she went to Jaipur, Delhi, and Agra, and that she didn't like the food she had there. I said she must have been unlucky or went to the wrong places but she claimed that it's only the Indian food that's served outside of India that's any good. I said that was a ridiculous statement but she pointed out I'd never been to India so I didn't know what I was talking about.
There was Indian music, dancing, yoga, meditation, a replica of the Taj Mahal, and many Russian Hare Krishnas, but of course the most interesting thing to me was the food. The trouble is, I was still full up from breakfast and didn't feel like eating, and I missed out. So the breakfast in Khamovniki turned out to have been a terrible mistake.
We were hot and tired so we left. I decided to put the bike in the car instead of cycling home. On the way home I finally felt the pangs of hunger so we stopped in Zilart to go to a fancy wee cafe. Goat ravioli, tagliatelle with pesto and stracciatella, and two jugs of sangria made with orange wine.
Sounds almost like my cuppa tea.
Never heard of vidalia onion but I understand that it is sweet.
Also wondered about Italian noodles. Do you mean pasta?
You might enjoy this blog:
https://www.burnthefatblog.com/high-protein-italian-pasta-bake/
What? You a big lummox and feartie? :brow:
Wonderful :clap:
Now write the book. Travels with a Russian Spy :wink:
Go on. You know you want to :cool:
So, I noticed this vague pain under my eye that lasted a couple of days until some small blisters appeared under my eye, the left side of my nose, and some along my lips. I surmised a spider had visited me in my sleep and climbed around my mouth stinging me along the way.
The doctor disagreed and told me it was shingles, apparently my chickenpox revisiting me from my youth. I told my wife I was relieved it was not monkeypox because then I would have to explain the location of the pox, which is coincidentally consistent with the trajectory of a certain monkey pox carrying substance under certain circumstances.
I got some medication and visited the eye doctor who confirmed I didn't have shingle in the eyeball, which would have meant being prescribed a white cane and seeing eye dog. With that good news, we went and enjoyed some lunch, consisting of your typical meat and three. I got the turkey swimming in a brown gravy sauce that was clearly not created from anything turkeyish. My sides consisted of lima beans, collard greens, and fried okra and a roll that I used to sop up the extra gravy.
We then went for a walk in the park, me wearing open toed sandals, walking through the high grass, looking closely for a snake ground assault, only to be hit from airforce above, getting stung by a wasp. I went down quick, but, inspired by the honey badger (see below), got back up and continued forward.
As you know, we do have snakes in Georgia, not having had them eradicated by the good and holy St. Patrick. St. Patrick does little for us here, limiting his works to coloring our rivers green once and year and leaving the townsfolk hungover. He also occasionally comes by for a photo op where he adorns our cereal boxes:
Being a descendant of Jerusalem and not of Rome, I'm not fully aware of how sainthood is granted, but a big thumbs up for any process that grants it to mischievous drunken leprechauns..
I was forced to hop on one leg for some time, resulting in one leg growing much more powerful than the other. I have no picture to show of this occurring in a leg, but I do of it occurring in an arm for illustrative purposes. The below picture depicts what occurs after too much self-pleasuring, but aside from that, I think it makes my point without being too distractive of it.
And so I hip hopped along, having now contracted relentless hiccups, I assume from the wasp, the hopping, the shingles, but doubtfully the delicious meat and three. My wife thought that by frightening me she might scare the hiccups from me, and so she would jump at me every few minutes with her futile attempts. I can only imagine the adorableness of how we presented, a middle aged couple hopping through the woods, playfully slapping and tickling one another.
I almost hate to bring up this episode, as it draws a sharp contrast between my bliss and the bitter acrimony that has developed between @Jamal and his wife, where they can't agree on such minor matters as where the best Indian food is made. And that is a weird thing how the official food of the Brits is Indian food, but that's an aside, and I don't want to get diverted from the point of this post, whatever that may be.
Speaking of Brits, or of former Brits, I drank some Scottish breakfast tea this morning, varying from the Irish Breakfast tea I usually have. I'm told Scottish tea is stronger than Irish tea, but I don't know for sure. I leave that slugfest debate between our gladiators from their respective nations state, @Jamal and @baden
And so there you have it, my weekend of struggle, love, but most of all awe inspiring resiliency.
There is no food that can not be subjected to snobbery. Rao's sauce, grass fead beef, etc.
Quoting Noble Dust
Vidalia onions, grown in Hanover's back yard, are a mild onion that is particularly good on slightly stale bread. (Note: "stale" doesn't imply moldy or spoiled.).
Most of us over-estimate how many calories we are burning while walking, jogging, or biking. Depending on several factors, the calories used to bike 1 hour are between 450 and 700. It doesn't take much eating to balance that out. The imbalance between calories eaten and calories expended on a modest bike ride is just TRAGIC.
Enough to cover a bottle of wine :up:
My little pop-up dictionary says this is both an Italian soup and an Italian ice cream. I can’t decide which is better.
Still keeping on the scale everyday but damn those are good. :yum:
But no, it was stracciatella di bufala, a cheese.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stracciatella_di_bufala
Hmm, I’m not salivating.
It could also be the beginning of green bean casserole -- just add canned green beans, mushroom soup, whatever the slop in the plastic container is, and top with canned french fried onions. Bake.
White slop binder / cover-all is a universal kitchen product.
As for tea, you'll be as disappointed as I was when I mentioned Chicago pizza to Noble Dust and failed to trigger a hate-filled rant. English, Scottish, Irish are all fine*. I'm more of a coffee guy.
*Tea, not pizza
I think the proper terminology is tuna fish casserole. The instant version, unbaked and not so hot (when you're not mid Minnesota winter), I believe is called tunanoods.
That and some Little Debbie snack cakes would make a complete meal, dessert and all.
I could eat that.
My mom used to regularly make tuna casserole. I tried recreating it awhile back in a fit of nostalgia. I used the canned mushroom soup that she used so frequently in her cuisine, but I added fresh vegs, several kinds of cheeses, and some fresh herbs.
Today, that little girl is Marjorie Taylor Greene.
I used to make that too. No one would have thought it was fried though. It cooked in a bag and came out baked and steamed, falling off the bone, covered in a sugary BBQ powder or whatever other flavors they might have had.
Delicious though. It went well with a can marked "Green Beans."
:up:
The labels on tins of Campbells condensed soup used to carry some interesting, quick and easy recipes. (perhaps they still do?)
Not only mushroom but cream of tomato and more...
Here's some online:
https://www.campbellsoup.co.uk/blog/top-6-cream-of-mushroom-soup-recipes/
https://www.campbellsoup.co.uk/blog/top-10-cream-of-tomato-soup-recipes/
I’m usually not good at analyzing wine, whisky, brandy, etc, but this one has some really noticeable flavours, including Terry's Chocolate Orange Dark. Which reminds me that I miss Terry’s Chocolate Oranges.
Cheers! :up: I am not good at analyzing liqueurs either! My father has some bottles of old Spanish reserves and whenever he allows me to taste them I don't know what to say :rofl:
Enjoy your drink!
@Noble Dust is the wine expert around here, so maybe he can tell us how to develop our tasting skills.
What he means is they are all invented tourist crap that no one here drinks or ever has. Tea doesn't grow here. My favourite is Ceylon. It doesn't exist anymore as a colony, but the tea is still good, you can drink it strong without the astringent tannin taste that tends to overwhelm Assam based "breakfast teas".
I've never been a spirits guy, so not a lot of help there. I do know if you want to taste a spirit in a way to savor it and maybe analyse it a bit, you can sip it and hold the sip on the tip of your tongue. This prevents excessive alcohol burn and allows you to concentrate on what you're tasting.
In wine retro-nasal breathing is important, but can just add more burn with spirits.
Edit: Now that I think about it, I guess you can still use retro-nasal breathing to taste a spirit, it's just trickier because of the higher ABV. Easy to feel burn or inadvertently cause a coughing fit.
Specially blended for Scottish water!
I mean, a few basic characteristics that I can find before going to pawnshop.
I noticed a young man walking uphill towards me, head down probably checking his mobile.
Usually, I give way and reposition to allow social distancing, even though it's no longer required.
This time I relaxed and didn't pre-empt.
I had been thinking about 'Attention' ( my current thread) and wondered if he would pay any.
I smiled and started to inwardly sing "Move Over Darling" (Doris Day).
Directing my mental attention to where I thought his brain might be...
He kept coming... but slowly and surely he moved over.
And get this, he even raised his head to meet mine, smiled and said "Hello!"
I'm now thinking did I sing aloud?
Is it doo-lally time?
Whatever.
It was surprising and really nice to receive attention from a cool guy :love:
Love is all around.
There's a song there. Somewhere...
Well, Mr. Smith was last seen in Texas around 12,000 years ago. The Mad Fool, on the other hand, was active a mere 4 days ago. :chin:
I was wondering the same. I checked out his profile information and it says in the site role that he is suspended. I do not know what could mean but I guess that instead of being banned he got punished for a few weeks.
No. Does it resemble Hanover's persona?
So much different than Hanover's day. Certainly not like the honey badger that he is. What a pleasure to read.
Quoting Hanover
The honey badger sounds like they make a good wife -- always bringing home something to eat and is immune to death. Very hardworking animal.
I hope that your afflictions will subside soon. But you're like a honey badger -- indestructible.
Quoting Noble Dust
What a travesty. I didn't see your post about wanting to be entertained.
Enjoy yourself... but sorry if you have nightmares afterwards
Too much bass
I forgive you but pay attention next time.
Wow. A whole nine minutes. And nothing exciting happened on the platform?
How weird!
You coulda just made up a story... :razz:
Actually a typical situation did happen. A couple, a man and a woman were asking another woman a question, but she apparently ignored them, because they quickly began to yell obscenities at her for ignoring them. The couple kept asking "excuse me, hello?!" to a crescendo of insults. I just heard this, I didn't see it visually. I imagine the woman they were yelling at had headphones in, who knows. After that scene, I hear them ask another woman the same question, about whether they could connect to a different train from where they were. The woman politely let them know that yes, they could make the connection. The couple was very polite in their response. Then, a few minutes later, I hear the same guy ask someone else the same question about the possible connection, and that person gives them the affirmative. I hope you'all are entertained. Welcome to my life.
That was fun.
So did you guess what the couple were up to?
Zoological research, that's whot. Yep :nerd:
I think they honestly just didn't know where they were going. Definitely a large attitude, though. I can relate, if I'm being honest.
I thought, Scientologists doing 'clearing'. Ask a question, obtain an answer.
If you have specific points of criticism about @..... or any other mod/admin conduct, please make a thread about it here in feedback.
That's a very bad idea. No open thread should be allowed to focus on personal attacks on any member, moderator or not. It should be handled with PMs.
Yeah, I've been wondering that for a couple of weeks.
Perhaps we should form a search party. I can bring sake and freeze-dried edamame chips. :party:
Looks to me like @Wayfarer found enlightenment. I'd let him be.
Wayfarer decided to leave TPF. He's done it before of course, but this time he seems more serious.
Wow, I'm super sad. I really hope it's not for real. I'm glad he left his email, which I will save. If this is real, then this is a new era here at TPF, and a significantly lesser era.
Thanks for askin' Jack. I'm back, my 1 week suspension from the forum having ended. How are you buddy?
You got suspended! That sounds serious, but I am glad you are back. I used to get detention at school at times, mainly for not doing my homework in the subjects which I didn't like.
:grin:
I came close to being expelled once! :sweat:
See you around Jack.
What on earth did you do to nearly get expelled from school? I was never really in trouble except for minor things, like talking in class when I should have been working. I sometimes used to get moved away from friends and made to sit with people who I was less likely to chat with.
Yes. Thanks for letting us know. It does seem serious.
I note that he has removed all the information and links about him; a highly talented, thoughtful, caring and sharing individual. It took me a while to appreciate that he is a song and music maker, as well as a writer. Wow :hearts:
@Wayfarer
A web search of his changed profile pic reveals that it is 'Rational Buddhism'.
Also, the profile includes the fully-written-out: [email protected].
I'm sure some, including myself, will be in touch.
If only to say, "Missing your presence, take care along the way...!"
Peace
:sparkle:
Just kiddin'. I was a good boy, teachers' pet?, in school Jack.
Wayfarer is one who could really benefit from some serious metaphysical training. Most the other members here are so deeply enveloped by mathematicism and scientism, that radical reformatting would be required before any real metaphysics could be accepted.
It is unlikely that Jamal will publicly share any of the reasons Wayfarer gave for his leaving TPF.
Not even privately, unless with permission.
I too am sorry to see him go. Glad that his absence was noticed and questions asked.
Others have left, quietly and without giving reasons.
Wayfarer can be contacted via email.
Quoting Amity
Correct. I will say that he didn’t mention anything specific to me.
I didn't know we did suspensions. When people suggested it in the past, the moderators didn't seem to like the idea. I'm glad they decided to do it that way.
I think I have Geschwind's syndrome, hypergraphia being one of the symptoms. The mods didn't like my graphorrhea. Do you think I could sue them for discriminating against my illness? :joke:
I once tried to read Mind & Cosmos by Thomas Nagel, a Wayfarer favorite, but honestly it was largely over my head and difficult to hold my attention on it.
Wikipedia:
"n 1969, Isaac Asimov said "I am a compulsive writer".[19] Other artistic figures reported to have been affected by hypergraphia include Vincent van Gogh, Fyodor Dostoevsky,[citation needed][20] and Robert Burns.[21] Alice in Wonderland author Lewis Carroll is also said to have had the condition,[22] having written over 98,000 letters in various formats throughout his life. Some were written backwards, in rebus, and in patterns, as with "The Mouse's Tale" in Alice."
That's interesting, do TPF philosophers genuinely experience a sense of loss? So what is humanism to the TPF philosopher?
Good to see you back. I appreciate your liveliness. Are there meds for graphorrhea? :cool:
@Metaphysician Undercover :up:
I sympathise. I hope it doesn't get you banned though I'm not confident it won't tbh. Good luck, anyhow.
Fingers crossed! Gracias for the concern.
:wink:
It's hard to catch everything in the shoutbox. If I don't check it in a day, two pages have gone by. Then I only see the latest. But back at ya -- you've recovered. So, all good. :up: :joke:
Are you taking medications for your conditions?
Leaving us to speculate. He always was a prescient fellow. Perhaps it's time for the rats to be leaving.
Ouch... I thought your thread was top class but I can see how there would be overlap with the other one. Maybe not the best of timing.
@Michael is the cream of us I'm afraid. So if he's off, the rest of us are truly curdled.
We live in troubled times.
I speculate that he got serious about practicing the way and surmised that a place like this tends to stimulate our default mode network (monkey mind, as they say in the biz) and he has fled this burning house.
Ghost Ship of Cannibal Rats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaNpka54DqQ
[Verse 1]
(Respect!)
Is never given enough today
I'm tired of looking the other way
(Respect!)
An appetite that we can't sustain
We're on a mission to kiss our days away
[Bridge]
So how long before the rivers start to rise, dear?
Yeah I thank my lucky stars to be alive here
[Verse 2]
(Respect!)
A generation of castaways
Under a nation of tidal waves
(Respect!)
Are we the passengers or the prey?
You can't escape from the past on holiday
[Bridge]
So how long before the rivers start to rise, dear?
Pack your bags because the tide is getting high
[Chorus]
Don't be afraid of the view from economy class
It's just the captain and crew jumping off of the mast
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Who's gonna sound the alarm when the bridges collapse?
Is this the point where the bomb reaches critical mass?
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
[Verse 3]
(Respect!)
Catastrophic events don't change
Today we feast, but tomorrow we pay
(Respect!)
But don't you worry 'cause you'll be safe
I got a ticket to piss your days away
[Bridge]
So how long before the rivers start to rise, dear?
Yeah I thank my lucky stars to be alive here
[Chorus]
Don't be afraid of the view from economy class
It's just the captain and crew jumping off of the mast
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Who's gonna sound the alarm when the bridges collapse?
Is this the point where the bomb reaches critical mass?
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Don't be afraid of the view from economy class
It's just the captain and crew jumping off of the mast
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Who's gonna sound the alarm when the bridges collapse?
Is this the point where the bomb reaches critical mass?
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
[Outro]
One city from the coast (Disappearing too fast)
One city from the coast (Sunk into the past)
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
One city from the coast (Disappearing too fast)
One city from the coast (We can never come back)
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
All aboard on the ghost ship of cannibal rats
Cannibal rats
I've been a moderator since day 1.
All salt, no traction. How about being nice and seeing if that gets you somewhere?
It's really good to read you here.
Thank you friend :flower:
Cheers. Take care.
[sup]• Texas public schools required to display “In God We Trust” posters if they are donated (The Texas Tribune; Aug 18, 2022)
• Alarm over Texas law forcing schools to display ‘In God We Trust’ signs (The Guardian; Aug 21, 2022)
• 'In God We Trust': Texas Law Requiring Public Schools Display National Motto Draws Backlash (CBN News; Aug 22, 2022)[/sup]
I guess "In Shiva We Trust" and "In Allah We Trust" are excluded, for example.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/squatting-more-154212532.html
:sweat:
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
What exactly are you thanking him for?
I tried to watch, but I couldn't tell if I was watching an ad for sbcglobal from 10 years ago, or an actual post from sbcglobal in the year 2022.
Leading by example. :heart:
Anyway, it's good to see you back here. I hope it is long term.
:cool:
I'm sorry
I love you
Worcestershire sauce
Your were referencing my preference for air-cooled over water-cooled chicken. A dead air-cooled chicken reminded me that I hadn't clarified the difference.
After a dead chicken has it's head, feet, and feathers removed and it reaches the end of the gut-sucking line, it is still warm and needs to be cooled off. Most chicken falls into a bath of chilled, slimy, greasy water and is then fished out and packaged. Air-cooled chicken are blasted with chilled air, then they are packaged. There are two differences: first, water-cooled chicken has more bacteria on it (from its slimy cold bath) and the skin is somewhat water logged. Air cooed chicken has much less bacteria and the skin is dry.
Pieces of air-cooled chicken skin readily crisp in the oven: Delicious. Crunchy like potato chips. Pieces of water-cooled chicken skin cook in the oven, but they don't readily become crispy. Good but not heavenly, Taste? Because of less water in the flesh, air-cooled chicken has better flavor.
If money is no object, you can get organic air-cooled chicken which has even less bacteria on it and has more food-snob value.
Some stores don't carry air-cooled chicken. Stores that cater to fussy, affluent shoppers do. (Low-class stores carry Purdue Road Kill.)
Isn't that bacteria laden sliminess better known as chicken shit?
Well, yes, but... Monty Python skit impinges on memory:
Diner: Waiter, what is this soup made out of?
Waiter: Oh, fresh vegetables and nice pieces of beef.
Diner: There isn't any rat in the soup, is there?
Waiter: No, no; we never put rat in our soup.
Diner: You are quite sure there is no rat in the soup?
Waiter: Well, there might be just the teensiest bit of rat.
Diner: Just how much rat is a teensy bit?
Waiter: I'd have to check, but certainly not more than 10%.
Diner: 10%! Are you sure there's not more than 10% rat in this soup?
(to cut to the chase)
Waiter: Well, yes, it's all rat. But it's fresh rat, I can assure you.
I guess this is what happens when you tend to have low Vitamin D! :death:
I take a supplement too. It is called "hidroferol" and yes it was quite severe when I took the first blood test because it appeared an important risk of having very low bone mineral density (BMD).
I don't tend to consume milk, butter, cheese, etc... and all of those products with calcium. I guess this why I take the supplement each two weeks and then taking the blood test to check how it is going.
Sounds very vitamin Dish. As an alternative you can just go sun bathing - the skin manufactures vitamin D in the presence of sunlight, kinda like photosynthesis. Don't forget your sunscreen though - white folks with light skin are prone to cutaneous malignancies from too much sun exposure. Morlocks! :grin:
I have been recommended calcium intake too. Most of the calcium in my blood comes from supplements. It would sound weird but it is impossible for me to drink a simple glass of milk, like only with the smell it makes me have arcades.
Oh yes I forget this issue too. I was a Hikikomori as a teenager... I forgot how the sun looked like...
Hikikomori (Japanese: ????? or ?????, lit. "pulling inward, being confined"), also known as acute social withdrawal, is total withdrawal from society and seeking extreme degrees of social isolation and confinement.
Same. My currently job doesn't allow me to maintain that kind of life. Despite the fact that Hikikomori is seen pretty bad among the society I have nostalgia about it because it was a period of time where I played with a lot of internet friends through Xbox 360. Good times though
Remember the good times, remember the good times.
Kinda...but it definitely isn't working.
Where do moles, nocturnal critters get their vitamin D? :chin:
:lol:
So a lawyer here in my office missed a hearing, claiming never to have received the notice from the court. His instinct was to delete the notice from the system and tell the client he never got it. A brilliant fucking strategy.
Had he looked a little deeper he would have realized that the notice was invalid for various legal reasons, so missing the hearing was excusable and will result in no harm to the client.
My instinct is to fire him. I can't deal with lying or cover ups. Had he admitted the fuck up (which even in a worse case scenario would not have been that terrible) and dealt with reality instead of trying to move the pieces around to present a prettier picture, it would have been a regular old Wednesday that we could have dealt with.
What do you guys think I should do?
I am in your side. Fire him immediately. He acts in pure bad faith. After catching him up doing such wicked act you no longer trust on him, right?
So... what is the point to keep a lawyer who acts in bad faith with his clients and is not trustful?
We live in different countries. Here we have another professional called "court attorney" who represents the client and sends to him all notifications of the court. Before to start every judicial process you have to hire this representative and it costs around 35 € plus other fees.
This figure exists precisely to prevent this bitch acts from useless lawyers.
I like the idea of a full time notifier.
The problem with notices is that everything is electronic these days and we get hundreds of filings and pleadings every day in our email. It's really hard to keep track of. I know I sound like an old man, but when they used to mail a single letter in the mail with the notice, it would come in, get stamped in by the mail room, and then passed around and initialed by everyone involved. Now we just get a daily tsunami of notices.
The excuse I'm giving him is that he could have explained it got lost in the shuffle as opposed to lying and covering up. That's the part I can't deal with.
Maybe you can come work here as our notifier.
Yes I know what you are referring to. We used to have the same pattern as well in all judicial procedures. I think this one is more effective because it shows the "timestamped" of the letter and other public signatures which proofs the reception to the recipient.
Quoting Hanover
It would sound as a mess but our law degrees are incompatible.
I worked 4 years ago as a notifier of foreclosures. It was fun... well not funny for the owners who lost their properties due to non-payment.
Generally I do whatever the mod group advises, so fired he is. I'll run down there and tell him.
Yes, that's what I meant. I was definitely not suggesting that you should remove his head from his neck using a sharp instrument, such as a sword, axe, or guillotine.
Oh, he's not in charge. He's just the guy who's been hired to fire people. It's a secretarial position.
And he can't even do that. If I were him I'd fire himself for his inability to do his job without consulting a bunch of randos on an internet philosophy forum.
@Hanover, you have permission to fire yourself. :up:
Actually I don't have a job. I'm just this old guy who gets pissed off and tells people they're fired. Then I stare at their mouth and giggle until they walk away weirded out.
And yes, that I chose "mouth" for that comment means I'm maturing.
Based upon what I've read between the lines of your silence, I know you guys have noticed it too, and for that I thank you.
All of the above. :up:
Quoting Agent Smith
I'm not surprised. Take care.
Gracias for the good wishes.
The things you do
To stop the truth from hurting you
When love breaks down
The lies we tell
They only serve to fool ourselves[/i]
-- Prefab Sprout
:up:
[i]come here, friends:
who wants to purchase a hat
full of snow?[/i]
-- Matsuo Bashoo.
Wouldn't you fire yourself?
--Nietzsche
Thought of him right after my glowing words re Fooloso4.
Frank once thought I was his groupie... :chin:
I was just thinking that myself. I actually like Frank.
I can think of fewer better comments than telling someone you "actually" like them, as if maybe you shouldn't, and maybe a lot of other people don't, but I actually do, like I see something, or maybe tolerate something, that others don't.
I'm hoping this amazing compliment finds him and send him back our way.
I just received the blood tests (which we discussed about in Thursday) results in my Outlook. Good news my vitamin D and calcium have increased a lot.
The doctor says in the file:
(LC) CALCIO / SUERO
RESULTADO........................ 99,8 mg/L (83,0-106,0)
(LC) VITAMINA D 25-OH
RESULTADO........................ 32,98 ng/mL (30,00-100,00)
Pretty good. The supplements are helping me a lot during these months! :ok:
Aw, that's Love Actually :hearts:
He is someone who definitely left his mark. Not gonna mention where...
I've not forgotten him and I bet others have been wondering too. It's been 3 months.
Here's hoping he is well, wherever he is. :pray:
:groan:
But is there a simple way to construct a neat table? Embedded HTML, perhaps?
It's always long term. I am just crumbling one minute and strong as fuck the next but I am getting very tired ....
Girl learnt something a few weeks back. Her partner had some surgery - small stuff - but she had to nurse him while he puked blood for a few days. She phoned in tears, "I can't do this!, I can't do this!". I replied "yeah, but you will anyway". And she did.
You could could use a spreadsheet or other program and then take a screen capture and upload it.
The forum software may have an html feature that’s not enabled but this system seems pretty lean.
Keep healthy sir/m'am :up:
Quoting Bitter Crank
Low risk with vaccinations :up:
(bad cough/breathing/fever/etc ? check with doc, I'm sure @frank would say)
Get better :up:
Thanks friend! September 3rd I will be with my doctor. But I think the check would be ok because the blood test seems so good and healthy!
Sorry to hear, hope you're doing well.
It's one thing to try to avoid the virus, another to taunt it, so I can see why the virus wasn't going to put up with that shit. It does have a reputation to maintain.
I'd fire him. Period. I cannot knowingly have a liar in my ranks/circus.
I totally get that.
Here is one of my loudest unwarranted criticism that I am not able to get out of my head:
Nick said that I wasn't there for him in his hour of need.
How? By every act possible my youngest son and I, along with the Angels in Heaven aligning, with a 1% chance of survival after Nick had his Aortic dissection, both ascending and descending.
45 days later, after going through DT's in an induced coma, 16 months later he served me with divorce papers.
In addition to what he was going through, my youngest son and I jumped into the business, handled it, we had clients making double payments and never skipped a beat. I knew that if he survived the disection and did not sustain brain damage, that he could not handle our business having failed. 2020 turned out to be one of our best years for our business. No good deed goes unpunished...
November will be a year after he started this divorce and I am soul tired. He has secured a house to move into in 4 days. I don't know where he is getting the money from because I don't have it. I don't have a choice but to remain here at the ranch until it sells. I'd love to be out of here but the only secure housing and utilities paid is here.
There is light but it's still too far away.
I did the "I handled it anyway" and I know you are aware of it and I love you for your encouragement that I will get through it.....
I'm just tired of burning.. :fire:
I'm trying, no, I am doing but it's not easy
Do not fire his ass because of a cover up or lying. Fire his ass because he was tampering with the electronic file management system. This is a graver offense. Deleting files is company property malicious vandalism or theft. If he just lied that he didn't get the file and did nothing else, reprimand him for lying. Because no loss came out of it, move on. There is a thing called PI (performance improvement) -- a process that helps the employees to redeem themselves.
I'd fire anyone who would tamper with saved files in company system or anyone who intercepts communication from outside agencies to the company and vice versa.
.
"This too shall pass" ?
Was there a significant consequence for the company resulting from his actions, a material or reputational loss?
Was the file-deleter authorized to manage files? Are there circumstances in which files are deleted for good reasons? (Don't know...).
What is the average performance level of the file defeater? Is he otherwise a productive employee? Is he your supervisee or employee? Have you discussed this incident with him? Did he present a plausible explanation?
Is there a contract between the company and the file-deleter that might present problems to you as the terminating agent? (If 'employment at will' applies, you could fire him for not combing his hair.) Is the file-deleter a member of a protected class? (Just covering all the bases I can think of)?
Surely, lawyers have occasion to deal with lying and deception. It would seem to go with the territory.
So, what are you going to do... or what did you do?
Quoting L'éléphant
You say you'd fire the guy, but then say if my instinct was to fire him, I'm not ready to be a boss.
Probably hundreds of reasons I'm not ready to be a boss, but it looks like here at least my instincts were right.
Also, if you're so ready to fire me from bossness, maybe you're not ready to be my boss. Backatcha.
He works directly under another partner, so he's that guy's final call, but ultimately we're all partners and in this together, so I can't completely abdicate from giving input.
It would be different if it were entirely up to me.
The employee is inconsistent at best, often varying in performance based on what seems to be personal life stresses and depression cycles. It's a tough market to hire employees also.
I have no problem with working with folks in terms of offering performance plans and even discussing personal issues they're wanting to discuss, but this is an ethical issue and trust has to be very high in what I do. Screw ups are common place, but I've got to be sure of the facts and then I can deal with it
I know you guys likely think dishonesty runs amok in what I do, but it's really the opposite at the person to person level. The behavior was shocking. To me at least. But I do tend to over moralize,, so I do sometimes need a really check.
I wasn't suggesting that lawyers were dishonest, but rather that the individuals and entities you represent (honestly, of course) might on some occasion be... a bit mendacious. One can't do business if people are dishonest.
Honesty is, of course, the best default policy; it relieves the liar of having to remember so many details of which lies were told where, when, why, to whom, etc.
The issue here is not a "fuck-up" but the bad faith used by the lawyer. He lied and tried to cover it up. That's the main reason why he got fired.
You're only going to get calls to fire the God damn deleter here, because you have no one to give the other side of the story. You need someone to play that role, the devil's advocate. But we don't really know the other's mind.
It might not be an ethical issue but one relating to a chronic mental health problem.
He probably hates every minute of his goddamned job, his life, and everything.
Has he ever received professional counselling?
Fair enough.
I'll play the deleter so we can get a full analysis:
Deleter: "Hanover is amazing! He is understanding, super smart, always spot on in his decisions, and does look crazy irresistible in those never too tight jeans. Let me tell you quite the tale. Well, the other day, I missed a hearing. Whoopsie! It was actually my secretary's fault. She just didn't enter it on my calendar. I can't do everything! Anywho after missing it, I promptly called the client, fully explained the situation, and told him we never got a stinking notice. Then I thought to myself "Deleter (that's coincidently my birth name), what oh what has your silly little self gone and said?!' So I plopped down in my chair, the rolley balls sliding me all about, and I made the file look like how I described it by deleting that contradictory smoking gun. "
So this should give you an objective view of the other side.
What are your thoughts now?
I appreciate the spirit of your platitude but as an up and coming social worker, I have heard them all and the need for Nick to burn to this marriage to the ground, everything that we made in coming together is being destroyed.
But I really do thank you because just knowing you have expressed more than silence is more helpful than thinking I am totally alone....
god bless it here come the tears.... I swore to myself I would not shed anymore tears for this mofo.
Sounds like the deleter’s got a crush on you. May want to fire in order to avoid future awkwardness like…
That's what I said :nerd:
It might not be an ethical issue but one relating to a chronic mental health problem.
Yes.
Quoting Hanover
I meant to say, if it didn't come through in my previous post, is that if your first instinct is to fire the dude for lying, then you're not ready to be a boss. I think you wanted to fire him. And I wanted to say, think first. What did he do besides say "I didn't get the notice".
So, my impression of you is that, you wanted to fire the employee right away for lying.
Given his past performance and record, think first.
I'm trying to explain to Hanover that if that's the main reason for firing, then he's not ready to be a fire-boss. :cool:
Inappropriate thoughts.
Got a funny for you:
I was working out at the gym and get off the machine and sanitize the whole thing. I go back to the sanitary station and push the foaming hand sanitizer once and it didn't come out.
I could feel someone behind me but didn't turn around and hit the sanitizer again...
Well both spills of foam came out onto my hands and I went to rub my hands together and a fucking splat of it landed right on my cheek, which I couldn't believe it happened. So I wiped it away before I turned around. Standing behind me was a very large but fit man, I was clearly blushing. I shot him a smile and a quiet frustration noise. He said "I gotta tell you that was funny!" I am like right?
Blushing as I type it out now.
Yes I have seen him once at the gym again but he is going to have to make first move as I am quite content.
Your style of flirtation is paradoxically both clean & dirty.
I'm not a boss, never have been a boss. My "from the bottom-up view" is what I said about problems within organizations: they're usually stacked up several layers deep. Why is that? Because many (most?) organizations are not rationally built; they are assembled over time and the individual quirks of various individuals, groups, markets, regulations, profit motivations, and so on put problems in place.
If Hanover's workplace has problems, that just means it's a normal workplace. Not good, but normal.
A comparison:
If you go to a pharmacy, you will see a few people behind the pharmacy counter working their tails off. Given the complexity of Rx, insurance, payment intermediaries, pharmacy inventory, customer expectations, and so on and so forth, it's amazing that more errors in dispensing aren't made.
Why are pharmacies like this? Because management at CVS, Walgreens, and a dozen other companies have decided to keep staffing levels at the flat minimum, and to cut registered pharmacist wages. The problems of the pharmacy business are stacked up several layers deep.
If someone makes an error, they might get summarily fired. Bad for the employee, who like her fellow workers is under extraordinary pressure to perform. She might lie to protect her job or reputation.
The solution is not an upgrade to really solidly ethical employees--they are probably already there--the solution is to reduce the workload so that more double-checking can take place.
Of course, it's impossible to create a fully efficient system, but people resorting to unethical responses could be evidence of structural failures.
It''s like if crime soars, that might be because you've got a particularly corrupt populace, or you might also have a system that presents too many challenges to the average guy.
I have read as well that simply having employees watch videos about proper behavior reduces ethical violations. It's not so much that these corporate videos give them a moral compass as much as they realize the company prioritizes it, so they comply.
Food for thought.
Indeed!
No. It's all about the law. You're made to watch them to inform you what's protected under the law. It doesn't change the dynamics within an organization. As they say, the bullshit and asshole registers are heard from the top. The organizations themselves are required to make the employees watch the videos.
Now I have a question for you, if you would be so kind to entertain and respond to me.
What about that interaction did I come across as flirting?
I am genuinely asking...
But see, https://www.shrm.org/hr-today/news/hr-magazine/pages/0414-ethical-workplace-culture.aspx
Down here we have industrial regulation which mostly protects workers from unfair dismissal. It's not considered lawful to fire a worker for an honest mistake. Mistakes are human. There is generally a fair process around performance management which must happen before anyone can be fired from a job. If mistakes happen and someone is injured or killed as a consequence, we have a government authority which will investigate and they may well find that structural problems (work load, communication, workplace culture) contributed, not merely the worker's decision making.
Join the club! :smile: Somehow you don't come across as the type who would succumb to illnesses. Your mind is clear, good recall, well-oriented in time & space, fit as a fiddle if you ask me. Whatever it is that you're doing, keep doin' it. The brain/mind is the canary in the coal mine, very sensitive to even the slightest of maladies. I declare you fit! Now if you'll please pick up the M16, collect your uinform and go to the barracks! :joke:
Sorry to hear that, a real bummer, and hope there are no long-lasting consequences.
I doubt you were smug about being healthy.
However, I remember becoming a bit more relaxed and complacent c. 3rd vacc.
Until I read about the deaths of some who caught it despite taking all and every precaution.
There was evidence that my cover would be insufficient.
Fortunately, the NHS followed through with boosters at shorter intervals.
Unfortunately, there is no guarantee, especially for those at 'High Risk'.
Covid keeps changing its colours.
We can only do our best. Keep taking the vaccs, wear a mask when necessary. I still pretty much keep to social distancing...except when (carefully) hugging close friends and family.
Covid is here to stay and there will always be a chance of catching any virus.
If over-protective of self, then we can wonder about our quality of life...
Take care.
People back on the moon 2-3 years from now.
Is a moon base going to be a reality within the next X years?
Will we launch from there to Mars?
Will the answer to David Bowie's 'Is there life on Mars' eventually be YES!. ........ US!
It isn’t
How much was it? Worth it? Does it work in very cold weather? What kind? Any rebates? Etc.
I live in the southeast and have a heat pump. It's supposedly more efficient than the furnace I had in my old house. It seems to work fine, but I think the issue is whether it's good for cold weather climates. Yours will likely require a secondary heat source for extended cold temperatures I think, which might make it cost more.
Do people in your area have them or are you trying to be creatively efficient?
I got shingles on my face recently, which is supposedly a later side effect of Covid. It was really mild and controlled by anti-viral meds. The only concern was it was near my eye, but it went away pretty quickly.
Something else you guys have to look forward to, but there is a vaccine if you want to get ahead of it.
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vaccinations/who-can-have-the-shingles-vaccine/
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Yeah they do, but I’ve only heard about it second-hand. Articles only haven’t answered all my questions— I’ll just have to bite the bullet and call an HVAC place.
Thanks for the info — glad it works well. How much was yours?
The Roads to Freedom
Taboo-busting adaptation for television of Jean-Paul Sartre's trilogy (1970)
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episodes/m0019m8q/the-roads-to-freedom
Quoting Dishonest narcissists’ – David Hare on why our unshameable Tory leaders should watch The Roads to Freedom
Mine actually came with the house, so I didn't price it. My concern at first was that it's all electric, which I know is environmentally more friendly, but electric is usually more than natural gas, although not so much now.
Not sure if that plays into your equation where you are.
Depending on electricity and fuel rates, the cost / benefit payoff will take time to achieve.
It's definitely worthwhile getting vaccinated for shingles; a serious case can last a long time and be quite miserable.
"Someday I hope I forget the distinction between de dicto and de re"
"When?"
"God fucking damnit"
The only time I've had AC was the dorm I lived in in my freshman year in college. Ironically, it's in the process of being installed in the building I currently live in, but I'm trying to move soon.
Err, I tend to agree, generally, but winter in New Hampshire can be brutal. I can usually deal with the heat just fine.
Could be true. I have lived without AC or heating for most of my life and don't use it now. It's 90 to 113 down here in summer. A fan is enough. Never very cold, 44 degrees last night.
You have well-disciplined macrophages in your blood. Lucky you.
Right. One doesn't want too many hyperactive cytotoxic effector cells going nuts.
Dinner: Homemade Chicken Shawarma, homemade tabouleh, couscous that was sort of burnt, and store-bought hummus because I don't have a real food processor. The shawarma recipe, which I linked to, is fool-proof and stupidly delicious. Everything else was just ok.
Quoting Noble Dust
I love couscous. I do not how to cook it so I buy it in my local mall. I tend to mix it with salmon :up:
Thanks. The couscous I bought is from a Syrian bakery, and the bag doesn't have any cooking directions, so I had to resort to the interwebs. I'll keep trying.
Did you improvise with the spice mix?
What have I been eating, I hear you all ask? I've been in Turkey, and Scotland, and now Turkey again. I've had grilled dorada, haggis and whisky sauce, two fish suppers (haddock deep fried in batter with chips, sometimes known as fish and chips, but in England they use cod, so "fish supper" effectively identifies the type of fish as well as being the Scottish lingo for fish and chips), pork tenderloin with tasty stuff I can't remember, a truly appalling meal in an Italian restaurant in my childhood home town (we all pretended it was good), baked potato with coronation chicken (second time in a few weeks; it must be making a comeback), an excellent Indian meal. The list could go on but I'm boring myself.
This morning I went to the hotel restaurant for the breakfast buffet. I realized too late that the nice Turkish stuff was hidden round the back, by which time I had a plateful of stuff I didn't really want. I disapprove of wasting food so I couldn't just abandon the inferior plate in favour of the flatbreads, savoury fritters, etc., so I had both.
Normally I would; I usually look up a few recipes and combine the bits I like. In this case, this recipe is so damn good that I don't mess with it. It's the only online recipe I follow to a T. I highly recommend that exact recipe to anyone, and it's super easy. Just let it marinate for like 1/2 an hour, doesn't need a long time (no marinade does). No, I'm not getting paid to say this.
Quoting Jamal
I'm a fan of "fish 'n chips" but I don't quite get what you're saying here. Please explain.
Quoting Jamal
I've had this experience at multiple locations in the Midwest of America. Perhaps it's a universal.
Quoting Jamal
What's that again? Something unnecessarily complicated, right?
Quoting Jamal
As you should.
Fish and chips is called a fish supper in Scotland, where haddock is used, not cod. Haddock tastes a lot better in my opinion.
But I've seen "fish and chips" or "fish n chips" used to describe a different meal: breaded fish with skinny French Fries. This is another reason why the term "fish supper" is good: it is only ever used to refer to what you get from a chip shop.
Quoting Noble Dust
Chunks of chicken in a curryish sauce, possibly curry and mayonnaise.
I'm still confused. So, in Scotland "Fish Supper" refers to fried haddock with thick chips (what I'd call wedges in the US). All good. In England, they make the same dish but with cod and with wedges. All good. You prefer the haddock.
You've also seen dishes labeled with the general "fish and chips" language that are simply fried fish of any kind with skinny french fries. I've seen that too. That's clearly not fish and chips.
So you prefer to label the lot of it as "fish supper" because that term subsumes all variants? Or no? What the hell is a "chip shop" anyway?
Quoting Jamal
:grimace:
Good choice. Syrian bakeries are pretty good but surprisingly I never bought couscous because I wasn't able to found it in the shop. The next time I must ask the owner for a bag!
I've learned to boldly browse the sketchy back room at my Syrian bakery; they have everything you could want back there. Just act confident.
I will! :up:
Exactly!
Ok cool. I hate to be pedantic, but I'm seriously unsure of how a "chip shop" relates to all of this, in relation to how you described it. Last question, promise. What the hell is a chip shop, and what do they serve in relation to all of this?
You'd better.
Yeah I kinda knew that but felt the need to press the question because I'm a dick.
"Take away" vs. "to go" is an interesting linguistic turn. I stumbled on this bloke during covid:
ahh eeeyah eh ayeheea ?
How often do you visit the Katz deli?
It is a most serious and fascinating question which, as in all philosophical discourse, leads to others!
Cultural differences and lingo even within the same, small country.
Quoting Jamal
Haddock :up:
Re 'a chip shop': aka a 'chippie' or 'chippers'. Hugely controversial, so a recent study was undertaken.
From the Courier:
And I wouldn't describe chippie chips as 'wedges'.
Here's an answer I agree with ( not sure about the US equivalent?):
Quoting Are UK chips the same thing as US potato wedges?
But not all chips are created equal.
Unfortunately, some chippies are closing down due to increased costs.
The best to be found are along the coast.
Freshly caught haddock and freshly cooked non-greasy chips. Yay.
Again, controversial.
:razz:
Salt or vinegar? Tomato or brown?
Is that fur eatin' or takin' away?
Never. But I do consider it a must-see in the city. It's damn good.
As you might know, in Edinburgh and possibly more widely up and down the east coast of Scotland, they’ll ask you “salt and sauce?” The sauce they refer to is vinegared-down brown sauce (HP or similar). I say “No. Salt and vinegar on the chips, a wee bit of salt on the fish.” All sauces ruin the magic.
Acclimatization? Wish we could do that with sorrow, life's arch enemy (re antinatalism). In the armed forces, it's called training for ... pain/sorrow. What sayest thou?
Ah, there ya' go.
You can tell I haven't been in a chippie for a wee while!
The best ever I tasted was in Stonehaven.
A much-needed stop on our never-ending car journey up North on a Friday evening.
And handily opposite the toilets, just off the Square!
Agree with your tastes apart from I don't much like the wetness or taste of vinegar.
But if the chips look too dry, un petit soupçon...
I find they don’t respond to that kind of language in Stonehaven.
The Fife coast is another good place for a fish supper. Tell me, do you know why most chip shops in Scotland are Italian, but most in England are not? I myself do not know, so this is not a trivia quiz.
A quickie cos I'm going out pronto vito.
Same reason that the ice-cream parlours are/were.
Interesting history, there...
Yes, and some of those Tuscan migrants ended up doing both.
Atta boy| That's what I like to hear, quantity for the sake of quality.
Quoting Noble Dust
You could compromise with "take out".
Quoting Are UK chips the same thing as US potato wedges?
I believe the proper terminology here is "steak frites". Don't deny the French their influence. Oh, I guess that was already granted with French fries.
But for me, a single issue would remain. Can any deep fried fish supper beat an Arbroath smokie with chippie chips?
We call that malt vinegar. I was first introduced to that delicacy at Captain D's, which is similar to Long John Silver's, which I believe are the McDonalds' versions of "chippies," as I believe you use the term.
We don't have proper chippies so much over here, as fried fish really isn't all that good it turns out, so that cuisine stays relegated to fast food.
Now, if you want REAL seafood, you'll go to Red Lobster, home of the all you can eat cheddar cheese biscuits.
Quoting Daniel C Dennett
Here in New England, when you order fish and chips, the menu often specifies haddock or cod, whichever is available. I don't think I know the difference. How can you tell?
Cod tastes a little more like haddock than trout, so that's how you can know it's cod
Limes green, lemons yellow.
I do enjoy the thicker mouthfeel as well.
You think it's just a bruise or do I need to go have them go rebuild my face?
Three questions:
I recently lost a prosthetic testicle in a pizza shop, how big was the item you bit down on?
What exactly is a motherf*****?
Is a holy f*** not just an impolite name for the immaculate conception?
The problem is that I couldn't find anything hard in the pizza, so I think it's probably a fractured tooth and the pressure from biting caused the pain. What that means is that they're going to have to put the tooth in a cast and my mouth in a sling and I'll have to get crutches for my jaw. It's going to be a whole thing. I might have to get one of those voice synthesizers like Stephen Hawking. At least it will make me smart as shit.
Holy F***! but please post a picture of your mouth in a sling and your jaw in crutches. I think such an image could be just the image I want to post in response to what some people post on some threads. :naughty:
Quoting Hanover
That could be cool, surely they have advanced by now and can offer you a synthesised voice like scooby doo or Yosemite Sam. You could be "the hootiness, tootiness, shootiness, wildcat west of the Pecos!' but that does not help me find my prosthetic or understand what a motherf***** is!
Perhaps I should ask my mother, at 85, she must know!
Wait a minute..... If my father....and my mother.....made me then was my father a motherf*****...are all fathers motherf******. Why are there no fatherf******. You Americans are all crazy!
Can you do that root canal? I've got other things to pay for right now, and I'm thinking you're on the cheap.
You can take care of this yourself, really. People used to pull out their own teeth all the time to cut costs. All you need is a pair of pliers. Just get a firm grip and pull. The survival rate of DIY dental procedures is much better than DIY abdominal surgery. Be sure to make a video so you can post it on your YouTube channel. It should garner lots of views. .
They say Rocky Marciano and Jake LaMotta could do that. Perhaps your dad could have been a world champion boxer!
I think Robert De Niro (who memorably played LaMotta) could also do it. How else could he have taken being in movies like, Dirty Grandpa and Meet the Fockers?
I can only suggest that addiction to collecting and storing money is the culprit in such cases and probably an obsession with 'maintaining a presence in the minds of the public.' Is being in really crap movies better than not being in any movie?
I can do the same, except instead of being able to shut off my own pain receptors, I'm able to be completely oblivious to the suffering of others.
That is evident from your continued postings here.
Are you also a Republican?
I've experienced this a number of times - fractured tooth. It will hurt on and off, when chewing, for a couple months, then break off. It has always happened to me when chewing some type of chewy bread, sour dough, or big buns, so pizza dough is consistent.
Air fried wild caught cod breaded with almond and coconut flour, some potato starch, cumin, paprika, salt & pepper, and parmesan cheese. Served with asparagus rather than nasty chips.
Wasn’t too bad with some sweet chili sauce.
Nice.
Shropshire Blue, a Somerset cheddar, and Caerphilly.
For dessert I had Haribo cola bottles.
Turkish wine?
Incidentally, there is no sorites paradox with figs. Two figs: no heap; three figs: heap.
OMG! Thank you!! :hearts:
:worry: I’ve never had Turkish wine myself. Lebanese, yes.
Hi Javi and Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
I ABSOLUTELY join you in welcoming in September. My soon to be ex is supposed to move out of the ranch today but I am willing to bet my last dollar that he won't be gone today.
I however am rebranding myself and feel SO empowered and excited about my life. :flower:
Hello Tiff! :flower:
Thank you for your friendly welcome but I am a member of TPF since February 2021.
Glad to read that you feel better with yourself and excited with your life. See you around the forum! :eyes:
I am pleased to read you are enjoying your stay!
Yes I enjoy it a lot. I am the Mishima/Bushid? fella :cool:
The toothman said I split the fucker from front to back, so he drilled the shit out of it and stuck pokey prongs in there to kill off the nerves so that it wouldn't scream when you touched it. He said to come in next week and he'll look see and decide if he can put a crown on top of that bitch and save its ass or if he'll have to yank it out my face. If the latter, he balked at my idea of hammering a shark fang in there, but said he could do something more traditional, like something that looks like a person tooth on a metal post.
I might just go get me some of those Halloween Dracula teeth you put in and save me some money, or maybe I'll have @Bitter Crank just do my dental work, considering he already figured out my problem and I fully trust his drill skillz.
Codeine is highly recommended for toothache. But use depends on how well you bowels move.
Take the drugs.
Drugs are only needed if you're having to wait.
I broke my tooth yesterday and got the root Canal today, so there's no pain anymore. Actually called the dentist at 1:00 today and had the root canal at 3:00 and was out by 3:45.
Say what you will of American healthcare, but delays aren't a thing here.
Just typed in "dentists within 5 miles of me" and there were 12, and I'm 30 miles from the city, so there's a lot of them.
Anyway, I've been going to my dentist for years and he worked me in. I will guarantee you can get a spot if you tell them it's an emergency here. I've never had a problem.
We could follow up on this, dentists per capita...
https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/dentists_per_1000_people/
Australia rates 0.61. Not that good. The USA? No figures. What are they hiding?
Google says there are 60.84 dentists per 100,000 U.S. population. 0.61.
But doubtless when you folk make America grate again, you will be able to achieve the dental excellence of Estonia: 0.98 per 1000.
But I doubt most ask for anything sooner.
Australia is 26.7 months. https://adavb.org/advocacy/campaigns/public-dental-waiting-times#:~:text=The%20average%20waiting%20time%20for%20general%20dental%20care%20across%20Victoria,four%20months%20since%20June%202021.
When I had shingles near my eye, I was at the urgent care at 8 am, at the ophthalmologist at 10:30 am, and had my Rx filled in the drive through on the way back to my office.
It's like buying a loaf of bread here.
That's for public dentistry. The free stuff. About 1 in 9 cases. Pretty bad, but not applicable to those with money or private insurance. I'm all in favour of including dental in Medicare, the nationalised health scheme, in order to reduce those waiting times. Vote Green!
Are there free dental schemes in the USA? What are their waiting times?
Medicaid provides free dental care for minors at county health clinics, and only emergency care for adults. I knew a guy who got locked up for drinking and driving and he took advantage of the free dentistry while in jail. So that's an option, but he described some regret in that decision, but he had a weak relationship with good decisions.
Another option, and this works well for discounted movie tickets as well, is to say you're a kid even though you're not. I offer this suggestion because I'm just trying to think outside the box to find you a highly sought after slot at the county health clinic. I don't know the wait times, but I'd think most delays would be caused by patient hesitancy. While you're there, you can also have them check you for STDs and I think they'll give you some free condoms.
You know how you look a horse in the mouth to check his worth? We sort of use dental health to assess the worth of people here, with your value declining with each chipped or missing tooth. That joke would be funnier if it weren't true.
And as in everything, we follow blindly.
Quoting Hanover
Get a shingles vaccination. It gets nasty as you age. Shingrix, which has the singular advantage of working.
I finally found a dentist with my health in mind not what money he had for his pocket. I wanted an implant and he said "Stop throwing your money away and let's do full implants.
Gorgeous smile 36k and I am going to be in finals made of cubic zirconiam. No more fear of my teeth and the pain, no more outrageous bills, just a one off. At 5k a tooth, it's pretty easy to see the value. I didn't have that kind of money but it was necessary for my overall health, no exposed roots that can carry crap into my blood giving me a low lying infection and no more pain.
I got the shingles vaccine and it kicked my ASS!
Then it was over but it took 3days.
The COVID vaccine was so much easier.
Intersting. Do you know if it was Zostavax or Shingrix? One dose or two?
I know. You guys were all thinking the same thing. I'm just the one who said it.
If you get a dental implant, chances are good that cadaver tissue will be included. The cadaver bits are not connected with getting a used implant. All but the least reputable dentists make fresh implants. Cadaverous bone material is packed in around your (hopefully new) implant to form future bone to hold the implant tight. You might get human cadaver bone tissue, or bovine bone tissue.
Some of this story was told in supplement to the LOTR trilogy, and some of it was in the Silmarillion. I read that Amazon paid the Tolkien estate $250,000,000 for rights to produce the 5 year series.
Liberties are being taken, of course, and this complicated story is less familiar than the LOTR plot line. The production has a rich visual quality. Naturally, there is a certain amount of creepiness here and there.
I'm not sure I can picture myself watching this show dribbled out episode by episode for 5 years.
It is implied, oui monsieur? When you F your mommy, you F your daddy! Sisterf**ker lost its sting since incest of that sort is allegedly common in certain regions of the USA. Is this part of the so-called sexual revolution? Dunno!
Then there's also daughterf**ker! I can't wrap my head around that as of the moment. I believe shit like this happen.
What about Adam & Eve? At some point, a sister had to f**k her brother, then cousin f**king; the upside to all this, we're all related. :snicker:
Just watched the first two episodes tonight myself. I actually thought it was great, which I didn't expect. The liberties taken feel way more appropriate than those taken in the terrible Hobbit trilogy. At first I wasn't sure about it, but feel like I'm now addicted. I dunno. We'll see where it goes. [hide="Reveal"]I just can't figure out who "the stranger" who fell from the sky is; could easily be either Gandalf or Sauron, which is whacky in and of itself.[/hide] Overall, this second age period isn't well documented in Tolkein's actual lengendarium, so I'm finding it to so far be pretty believable at the end of the day, even though there's some stuff I don't buy. If they stay within the lane they've created so far I'll be pleased.
Quoting Agent Smith
Some Christians get past this one with 'god made Adam, (not to forget Lilith) and Eve FIRST, that did not stop it making others later. One is even mentioned in the bible with 'Cain was banished to the land of Nod where he took a wife.' Where did she come from?
:vomit: You could have a nice breakfast of Hungarian ghoulish after your cadaver implants are implanted, but you might pick up some of the personality traits of the pervious owner. Maybe you will end up with a strange urge to speak in tongue's. You might become a big hit with the evanhellicals!
This video addresses all those types of biblical questions.
Sometimes I find it hard to believe how good Chris Smither is.
Found this for you:
https://read.dukeupress.edu/small-axe/article-abstract/23/2%20(2)/89/139189/The-Chicken-CoupA-Distinctly-Masculine-Adventure?redirectedFrom=fulltext
One of the elements the Second Age texts lacks are charming approachable characters. I hope the Amazon producers don't over-do it to supply them, but over-done will probably happen.
Perfect. I shall save some money by bringing my own. I have some in my fireplace.
A good song. I'm not a country music fan but Chris does sing his humourous version of the story very well.
Good choice.
Quoting Bitter Crank
Yeah, most likely. They even milked that in the original trilogy, which I stilled loved. We'll see. Overall it feels similar but different from the Jackson aesthetic. Maybe I'm becoming less of a Tolkien stickler as I get older, I dunno.
I have mixed feelings on patty people. Attention seekers, mostly.
[i]When I first started reporting about solar cell technology around 2005 the best commercially available silicon solar cells (photovoltaics) had an efficiency rating of about 11% (the amount of the sunlight hitting the panel that ultimately gets converted into electricity). They were expensive, heavy, and didn’t product that much electricity, but still it was enough for early adopters and we were at the beginning of the commercial solar industry. That was just before the inflection point when solar started to take off.
I remember reading many solar power news item, detailing some incremental advance, but still with some limitations and uncertainty. But slowly, inexorably, these potential advances added up. Every year solar panels because a little better and a little cheaper. Now silicon crystal solar panels commercially available have efficiencies of over 20%, they have a minimum lifespan of 20 years but many are rated for 35-40 years (and some report 40-50 years), and their price has plummeted, down about 90% compared to 2010. The ultimate potential efficiency of silicon solar cells is often cited as 29%, but using various techniques higher efficiencies have been reported, such as this one in 2019 reporting a 31% efficiency.[/i]
It's a good science/skepticism website. Read the comments on the articles too. They're often the best part. Link:
https://theness.com/neurologicablog/index.php/organic-solar-cells-and-other-solar-advances/
:rofl:
Most often when I eat sausage for breakfast I take a good Italian sausage, remove the casing, and then squish it on the griddle to make it flat. So, am I a link or a patty person?
You're a weirdo.
You've missed the point. This is a serious philosophical issue, like the sororities paradox - How many women in a group does it take to make a college social organization?
Anyway - if I squish a link does it become a patty?
I didn't miss the point, I just don't care. It actually sounds pretty tasty.
Google Earth is the greatest invention in the history of the universe. Better than the wheel. Better than fire. Better even than Goetz's Caramel Cremes.
The primary difference between breakfast sausage and other sausages is the seasoning, particularly fennel and garlic, which you'd never find in breakfast sausage.
I was in Mexico and ordered the breakfast sausage and they served me an Oscar Meyer hotdog.
So, to answer your question, neither you nor the Mexican restaurant are link or patty people. You're both misplaced sausage people, doing with your sausages that which was unintended by nature.
And yes, it is incredibly hard and tiring turning everything into a penis joke, but no one here is willing to help me out. Please. guys come and give me a hand!
Bulls Eyes.... Omg...I can eat myself sick on them.
Yummy :yum:
Actually, they're terrible. It's only because I've been eating them since I was three that I love them.
Nothing wrong with that!
[sup]Climate change and conflict are challenging the Federal Reserve’s efforts to combat rising prices[/sup]
[i]Rana Foroohar
Financial Times
Sep 5, 2022[/i]
I'm going to try something out and see if it sticks.
~ UH
A rapid or a slow moving oiled hand?
It's easier to do readings with a branching scheme because the dogmatic grandstanders get isolated in their own branch. It makes it harder for trolls to derail as well.
Having been told this kind of comment goes to the Feedback section, are you trolling the mods now?
It's not feedback, Amity. Calm down.
Condescending and wrong.
Even if we all agreed it was better, we couldn't implement it on the PlushForums platform. Personally I much prefer the flat structure.
One nice thing about flat is how it highlights quieter voices. That can bring a richness to discussions. The downside is that loud, dogmatic people can easily take over and set the tone.
With either format, the key to good discussions is some level of camaraderie and trust, I think.
Hello. This seemed to come out of the blue.
Who was the Note addressed to?
What is to be understood as a 'feedback post'?
This is one of my favorite commercials. I've always wanted to meet whomever wrote it so I could tell them.
And active moderation.
True.
It was in response to a deleted complaint about something or other. @Tate's post is more related to features and suggestions. There's a thread for that too for future reference: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/30/feature-requests/p1
Thanks :up:
The forum's bologna has a first name
It's b-i-t-t-e-r
The forum's bologna has a second name
It's c-r-a-n-k
I like to read him every day
And if you ask me why I'll say
Cause Bitter Crank just has a way
With b-o-l-o-g-n-a.
Homer doing a cover of the baloney song.
You’re a broken record. Put up or shut up. :joke:
I loved the Simpsons and the Halloween shows were always the best.
I think he's been holding off because you've been working on some updates you've been talking about for the past 7 years.
Cumbrian, Cut it to bite size pieces, if you like. Make sure they are fatty.
Into a baking tray, pour lots of good olive oil, extra virgin cold pressed - it makes a difference. lemon zest, in strips, then the sausages and 6 cut par boiled potatoes, with rosemary, thyme, oregano, sage, bay... nice firm fresh herbs. A good handful of each; treat them as a vegetable, not a condiment. Capsicum, in bite size pieces, green olives - Sicilian are best - greens such as broccoli, Brussels sprouts, cauliflower. Add spinach or chard if you have it, but put it in first. Salt. Whole garlic cloves, don't bother to peel them, just squeeze onto the dish when served. More olive oil, the juice of the lemons, and some good vinegar on top. Keep everything in a single layer so it can brown in a hot oven, at least forty minutes. The aim is to make plenty of burnt crunchy bits.
The burnt pieces will be like shards of glass against my cracked tooth.
I shouldn't have gone to that unlicensed dentist. He was quick to get an appointment with though, and he did give me a close shave and a smart haircut.
What do you do with charred sausage? Burned meat is a carcinogen.
That sounds delicious!
So you get the version with halloumi instead of pork. Dead chicken also works. With all those vegetables, it counts as health food.
I thought you didn't eat food.
I don't. I sniff it.
Ah, so you ingest nutrients through huffing.
That's what we're here for.
Okay thanks. I'm copying your recipe. What's the temperature of the oven?
I guess he'll have to find another recipe. We don't use your so-called "Celsius" scale here in the US. We use God's chosen Fahrenheit scale. We have to nip this kind of thing in the bud or we'll be on a slippery slope to Australian Communism. You know what they say - Give them a centimeter and they'll take a kilometer.
To be expected. Dudes still measure their weight in bags of sugar over there.
And how many stones does sugar weigh?
Half a dozen sugar bags is a stone and three stones is a rock and then you get into boulders and shit but no one weighs a boulder so who cares.
USA! USA! USA! USA!
We measure density in hogsheads per cubic fathom.
If a want just a drachm of sugar, and it's 4 pence, but all I have is a shilling, how many farthings change do I get?
The drachm of sugar is a red herring. You will get eight pence in change. If they give you the change in farthings then you will get thirty two valueless but attractive little coins featuring the monarch on one side and a cute robin on the other. You may pop a few farthings in the patronising charity box in the shape of a blind boy on crutches with a slot in the top of his head. A few more can go in the local wishing well. The remainder can be used as the front wheels of penny-farthing bicycles. Careful with the drachm of sugar, especially if it comes wrapped in a resealable plastic pouch.
*sorry - it's a wren, not a robin....
Reagan nixed the idea, but so did organized labor.
"Organized labor fought it as well, according to Zengerle, so workers wouldn't have to retrain to learn the new measures."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/2/16/8031177/america-fahrenheit
So you see, it took a coming together of capitalism and Marxism to slay the dragon of metricism that now plagues the rest of the planet other than America.
I feel bad for you fuckers who still have to deal with the metric bullshit.
I had heard that Napoleon was the one who implemented the metric system in Europe. F...ing tyrannical system of measurement! Turns out that's wrong. It was implemented during the French Revolution. Napoleon actually abolished it in 1812. It was reestablished later.
In school we called it the SI system - system international in French. Maybe we can fool people into using it if we call it that instead of "metric." "SI' is science. "Metric" is godless communism.
primidi (first day)
duodi (second day)
tridi (third day)
quartidi (fourth day)
quintidi (fifth day)
sextidi (sixth day)
septidi (seventh day)
octidi (eighth day)
nonidi (ninth day)
décadi (tenth day)
In America, you have to think harder, which is why we're smarter.
Also, if you use a metric socket on an American car, it'll look like it fits, but it won't, and it'll fuck up the bolt and slip off. Fucking metric dickhead trickery.
He just texted me and asked if my tooth was feeling better. Bet you don't get that sort of treatment from your dentist.
USA -1, Rest of the World - 0
She was coronated a year and a half after I was born.
Well, now you know what you were doing and where you were when King Charles III ascended to the throne of the UK! A wee tale to tell in your dotage, mine too, which I am sure, in my case, is not too far away.
I am currently half way through my dotage.
Queen’s former personal chef reveals how she likes her fish and chips
Each to their own.
My recent fish supper, from Franco's:
Maybe I am too and don't even know it. Victorian, Georgian, Elizabethan age all seem to roll of the tongue quite well but how do you do this with Charles? Charlian? Charwellian? Charlesian?
:lol: Really! Poor Charlie, better to end the Monarchy than be responsible for the age of Caroline.
What would it be if wee Prince wullie took over instead?
Looks delish but no tartar sauce? :gasp:
I wonder if her death will activate renewed debate about the monarchy in the UK?
I would love to see the end of the monarchy in the UK, just because I find the idea of Monarchs, a house of lords, the honours system, the British aristocracy, etc, embarrassing and backwards, but the majority in Britain (well definitely in England) seem to insist they continue.
Nonsense, you limeys are so backwards.
Is Papa Razzi a nickname for the pope? If it was true that this was a Papel act then that could start a sectarian war in the UK. Oh, wait a minute, that's been the status quo for the past 100 years. Well ok, I might be exaggerating but only a little.
Seems apropos.
Not even one Belgium, A hobby farm.
I'm sure it will. The death of a reigning monarch is probably not the moment when calls would arise to abolish the royal system. A crisis of some sort would be a much better time to move for abolition: Never let a good crisis go to waste.
Do the English, in particular, think they are getting good value for cost from the royals?
And so it goes.
No. I usually get a phone call rather than a text.
...making America grate, again.
If I remember correctly, Canada and USA struck a deal to convert to metric, both countries at the same time, to simplify international trade. The Canadian citizens were forced by their government to learn new measurements. The Americans reneged. USA -1 Canada - 0. However, USA was stuck with a speed limit of 55 while Canada got 100. USA -1 Canada -1.
It was Prince Charles and he was killed by chimpanzees. Since he has become king I have considered updating it, but I had previously thought about how the story would be affected if, as seemed likely, Charles died some other way, and realized that it was better left as it was, that Charles’s chimp-unrelated death would only strengthen the slipstream feeling I was going for, the alternate reality aspect.
So now I’m thinking the same thing, that there’s no need to update it. On the other hand, the first line might have even more impact:
I do not understand why Australia did not become a republic long ago.
It's not like the Brit aristos or the brit establishment have ever displayed much affection or respect for Australia or its people. Using it as a penal colony or more accurately a place to dump its poor and hungry unfortunates was not a good beginning and then later using its brave soldiers, along with those from New Zealand as cannon fodder, in the way the Anzacs were used by Churchill at Gallipoli in WW 1. There are so many such examples.
I think Australia would gain a lot more respect on the world stage if they completely broke away from their pommie (prisoners of Mother England) keepers.
You could then claim back Kylie Minogue and Jason Donavan, would you want them back?
I have a long time Scottish friend who married a girl from Oz and he lives in Perth in Western Oz. He works as a scaffolder in the Kalgoorlie mines. He calls any Australian that supports the Brit Monarchy 'an Aussie Bawbag!' :lol:
I am English, visited friends in Melbourne in 1987 and went to dinner with parents of a friend. There were two 'Steves' at the dinner (I'm one) and Mum disambiguated me a couple of times as 'pommie Steve.' My friend Janet asked me with concern 'Steve, do you mind being called 'Pommie'?' I assured everyone it was not a problem. "Oh," she said, a wicked look coming on her face. ''Well, how about 'Pommie Bastard?'"
Most who support the monarchy claim they are good value for money based on the tourism they attract and the positive global ambassadorial role they play. I don't concur with either claim. They are a horrible reminder of the days of enforced servitude and totalitarian rule. The idea of showing deference to some titled moron because of a backwards honours system or some ridiculous notion of birthright just makes me want to sharpen my pitchfork and go invade [s]Fuckingham[/s], sorry Buckingham palace.
I would NEVER bow to a monarch or use a title such as 'your majesty' or Lord or Sir and then their name.
The most monarchistic people outside of places like Essex or Cambridge, seems to be the London cockney's or some aloof Edinburghers, such as those who think that it still makes sense in modern Scotland to have some wacadoodle call himself a clan chief :rofl: etc. To me they still nestle some bizarre imperialist attitudes which are almost fascist in their hidden but deeply held viewpoint that the brits are superior to any other race! Wee Adolf would be so proud of them and is part of the reason why he saw the brits as natural allies and long-lost relatives (Saxons, Angles etc).
To which the polite response in the circumstances would be, "You'd need to consult my mother on whether she is comfortable with that."
I always prefer the more childlike response: (and I will deliver it with my best childlike voice')
'I'm telling my daddy you called me a bas****!"
I will then normally add (in normal voice), Oh, I forgot, he's dead and...... now you come to mention it ..... he was a bit of a bas**** at times.
Sometimes they don't get it, especially if I am trying to keep any TPF moderators happy (who we know can appear anywhere) by saying bas asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk, which sounds GREAT in a cave of echoes.
Note that at TPF there is no law against profanity. Personally I think if you’re going to use such words you should do it openly, bawbag.
Aye nae bother!, Sez you! and the spider tae ra fly! Am no fu***** fa'in fur that yin!
and don't forget ya ruskie bam! it's Glesga bawbag tae you!
Yeah, that would have been a better name for the big snake in Harry Potter! Basterisk!
Gan canny, man, in NyucAstle yud get the bean stuck on yu for taakin like that.
Fair point.
But allow me to translate this for curious outsiders and sassanachs:
If Scotland goes Independent, Newcastle, Liverpool, Manchester, Leeds, Cornwall and a good few other guid places with guid people should apply to become part of Scotland, Ireland or maybe even Wales. Do I sound a bit bias? I am not anti-English just a little anti-southern English.
Awe, yir parley is so pritty by ra way! You cood be a pure trans by ra way so peeple cood unnerston eech uther!
Talkin pish.
The best Glesga response to such an insult is 'aye yer maw!'
It would be good if a 'wan wi the heid' emoticon was included in those offered to members?
Would you be kind enough to suggest it at your next 'beano on mopeds,' with your fellow mods?
At least get your insults right, surely you meant 'typing pish.'
Whaur ye fae?
How many times must I type Glesga!
Nae wunner ye patter's rotten.
Och yir a metaphysician! Ye canna gie up on us whit use ra metaparliamo!
Ye missed oot the r in 'yer', ya 'a se!'
Yir no very good at the parliamo ur ye!
Naw, ye can ye wi oot the r if ye fae oot Glasgae. Ye Glasgae pricks tink ye goat definitive Scots like Queen's English.
I keep thinking "up the ra" when you're writing "ra", it's been a while since I've seen someone using "ra" in text.
Whit kinda mutation ur ye? Even ra teuchters don't say 'tink'
Mad Galloway Irish cunt here. Stranraer.
Growing up I heard "tink", "thunk", "tenk" and "think". Also "thot" but that means something different now.
See! anurrer reason furra need ov a 'wan wi ra heid' emoticon fur respondin tae such cheeky bastericksees (I just invented that one with much help from Newkey boy @cuthbert)
I wonder if Fastrerick and Casterick would work as well to replace F****** and C***.
:lol: ra is glasga parliamo for 'the'
Oh, yep, makes sense now!
Reminds me of:
But the actor playing the Irish part is actually Scottish I TINK!
That almost sounds Latin lol.
Quoting universeness
Aye. Do you lot use it as a superlative too though? Like "teuchter" vs "ra teuchter"? I feel there is a difference. :rofl:
In Glesga parliamo, tink is hink as in
Ah hink yer rite by ra way!
Hink-a-fucking-dory eh. That's cool. By their powers combined they're almost the standard version!
Yeah, I will support your Latin claim but I thought it was more like Gollum speak due to the 'sees' at the end.
Quoting fdrake
Super whit? superlative? ur they no used tae help yi dae a big shite?
Quoting fdrake
Ra teuchter would just mean the highlander, teuchter is just highlander or sometimes in the rougher parts of Glesga parliamo, 'sheep shagger.'
Whit? Mad Irish!
I've heard of 'hunky dory' as meaning everything is ok but wtf would 'Hink a dory' mean?
Ah right. I think one reason it has that status in my mind is that I'm not used to it, so when I read it it occupies the same space as "raw", like "raw bampot" vs "bampot".
Quoting universeness
Yes.
Do you lot have cheuchter as well as teutcher? There were a fair few people back home who would use it as to refer to epididymus/cock pipe. Like your "manhood". Think it was some Irish influenced perversion, but I love it.
Quoting universeness
I decided to make something up too. And yes, you got it.
Never heard of that one!
Quoting fdrake
Good to know our Irish brothers (or yous bams!) seek to maintain their creativity.
From Google:
[b]There's no agreed derivation of the expression 'hunky-dory'.
It is American and the earliest example of it in print that I have found is from a collection of US songs, George Christy's Essence of Old Kentucky, 1862.
We do know that 'hunky-dory' wasn't conjured from nowhere but was preceded by earlier words, i.e. 'hunkey', meaning 'fit and healthy' and 'hunkum-bunkum', which had the same meaning as 'hunky-dory'. 'Hunkey' was in use in the USA by 1861, when it was used in the title of the Civil War song A Hunkey Boy Is Yankee Doodle. 'Hunkum-bunkum' is first recorded in the US sporting newspaper The Spirit of The Times, November 1842.
The least exotic theory of all, but almost certainly the true clue, traces "hunky-dory" to the archaic American slang word "hunk," meaning "safe," from the Dutch word "honk," meaning "goal," or "home" in a game. To achieve "hunk" or "hunky" in a child's game was to make it "home" and win the game.
The question of where the "dory" came from brings us back to our old friend "O.K." Children very often do not just say "O.K." -- they say "okey-dokey," thus engaging in what linguists call "reduplication," or the emphatic, joking repetition of parts of a word. "Hunky- dory" is almost certainly a similar product of reduplication by children who had won their game.[/b]
But hink a dory would be think a dory, I don't think that could mean 'everything is ok' so what meaning are you assigning to hinkadory? How about 'think of a story' or 'think of a story and tell it to me,' that could work, but only if you can see past the use of dory just because it rhymes with story.
Addition: The claim could be that the 'd' of dory replaces the 'st' of story to indicate 'Do the story' or 'tell the story'
Well having a King torn asunder as apposed to a merely prince does convay some sort of elloquence, putting it strangely. The monkey's would then have quite the royal pallete.
Nice.
It's kinda weird; I drank a Red Bull yesterday and it put me to sleep and I don't drink them more than once a week.
I am deeply under stress and have been for almost a year now. I am still booking hours at the gym but I am not sure if this is almost over or not. Fearful to look up and realize there is more burning for me to endure.
I think if stimulants make you sleepy, then you have ADD, which is funny because the paralegal who works with me who used to be a school teacher and worked with ADD kids just diagnosed me with ADD.
I always thought it was what made me so entertaining was how I would jump from subject to subject randomly, but now I'm to learn I've got a diagnosis.
You could sample different drugs until you find one that has the desired effect. Some people get through life that way.
I never got cruise ships before Covid and am continually astounded that they still exist but KCII sounds even more dangerous if that is new recipe at Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Typical Hanoverian King type behaviour. You could be in line for the UK throne! Are you interested?
The House of Hanover (German: Haus Hannover), whose members are known as Hanoverians, is a European royal house of German origin that ruled Hanover, Great Britain, and Ireland at various times during the 17th to 20th centuries. The house originated in 1635 as a cadet branch of the House of Brunswick-Lüneburg, growing in prestige until Hanover became an Electorate in 1692. George I became the first Hanoverian monarch of Great Britain and Ireland in 1714. At Queen Victoria's death in 1901, the throne of the United Kingdom passed to her eldest son Edward VII, a member of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha. The last reigning members of the House lost the Duchy of Brunswick in 1918 when Germany became a republic.
I understand this effect well, requiring massive doses of Viagra to flaccid me enough for the ladies to get some sleep.
One man's curse is another's fantasy.
Paradox abounds.
It'd be funny if it weren't true.
Oh wait, that is too whiney.
Carry on.
I'll have you know that chicken tikka masala is amazeballs.
Meh, check out this little beauty:
"Song of the People of Baden"
The most beautiful land in Germany
that is my land of Baden
it is so magnificent to look upon
and rests in the hand of God
And so, I greet you, my land of Baden
You noble pearl of Germany
Arise, arise; arise, arise!
Arise, arise my Badnerland!
The Palace is in Karlsruhe,
The factories, in Mannheim
In Rastatt, there is the stronghold
And that is Baden's fortune.
Old Heidelberg, you noble city,
rich in honors
On the banks of the Neckar and the Rhine,
you are without equal.
Silver ore is mined in Haslach,
In Freiburg, wine is grown,
In the Black Forest, maidens fair
I would like to be a Badner.
The farmer and the nobleman,
the proud military
they look amicably at each other
and this is Baden’s honor.
I wonder if the German city Baden-Baden really is so good that they really did name it twice?
For me, Baden contains Bad which is never good!
If you're not satisfied with forests, wine, and maidens I don't know what to tell ya.
To motivate ourselves, we would adorn ourselves in our most protective winter attire, put on our fiercest grimace, and sing the ferocious "Hanover Winter Song." Nothing could stop us after that:
:naughty:
And so it goes.
But one solution:
It's everything I like about you that is the same in me.
I demand to remain undiagnosed and love hopping from topic to topic and I LOVE people who are capable of answering sarcasm with sarcasm. Those are my people!!!
https://www.wideopencountry.com/rock-city-barns/
"With hearty and humble affection, we promise him faith and faithfulness"
:brow:
I liked the Queen from what I knew of her, which wasn't much. More than I like a bunch of ignorant yobs at a football match anyhow, Irish or not.
Divest the lot of them, and give them an honest job.
Running a team at Walmart?
Got that right.
I think they would all make great tourist guides. Turn all the palaces, towers, castles and cathedrals into state schools, hospitals and hostels for the homeless and let the ex-royals and ex-aristos, etc show people around. They could start with the words "This was where I used to live when playing the role of superior was the height of popular culture."
[emphasis added]
I seem to remember my mother making the same argument when I expressed my negative opinions about royalty at a young age. They were needed because who or what would replace them?
I think I asked why would there need to be a replacement.
This could be the start of a thread...
The royal tradition: the relationship with governments and corruption.
Not everyone is against a dictatorship. I wish I could find it now but there was an article including the percentage of people aged 16 yrs to 20-ish who thought it a good system. Why?
I don't know. Perhaps it gives a sense of certainty? Lest we forget...
Previous generations were all too aware of the dangers of fascism.
Grandparents fought and lived through WW1 and then some. Parents affected by WW2.
But I think some of the royals had a fascination...flirting with Nazi ideology.
There is no guarantee that any royalty would protect against a PM taking increasing control.
Charlie boy being a King of Australia...just sounds plain daft, if not insulting.
The mantle or cloak of the divine hides their inherent historic and modern ties to dictators.
I am sickened by all that has happened, or hasn't happened, over the last few months.
A paralysis of parliament.
Channel 4 news included a few dissenting voices including one woman sitting alone on steps in Birmingham.
'The timing is all wrong....we are being ignored, what are we to do about increased prices, heating...'
It's not so much the timing but the prioritising of political posturing, pomp and ceremony.
The never-ending display of the rich and the powerful. Praise and platitudes. Who pays the price?
How mesmerising...for some. Frogs boiling.
Can't bear to watch the TV but had a look at Guardian photos and updates on today's proceedings.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/live/2022/sep/12/queen-elizabeth-edinburgh-coffin-lie-in-state-funeral-king-charles-westminster-hall-palace-holyroodhouse-live-news
I now need some fresh air...
Quoting Amity
Let us then march forth together down the street singing The Vicar of Bray, to which no one could possibly object, because its traditional.
Hah. Traditional Twisting and Turning in Truss's Tory land. Where 'Trussonomics' will rule, or no'...
I need a peaceful stroll and a wee bit of dark island...
You're going to have to print out the website and post it to me.
I already bought you a plane ticket so you could view it here where it's legal.
If you'd rather read it printed, since I already bought the ticket, maybe just fly here and I'll hand it to you so I can save on the postage.
I heard the old lady died. I have not seen any coverage of her death or what's next. I don't watch TV or follow the news for the most part. So thankfully this particular episode of the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha soap opera is passing me by, for the most part.
Nay, Yeah, Verily. Thou Ars Est :100: Magnifico :100:
Mervyn Peake would have been proud.
Was denkst du, @Jamal? The Royal Mile an' a' that :fire:
Good morning from a bright and sunny Scotland. So far...
The Death of the Queen
Yesterday, there were some beautiful shots of the funeral cortege; from the top of the Royal Mile to Holyrood Palace. The mediaeval cobbled street lined with the public paying their respects.
That reminded me of your winning story (Comp2); your explanations, inspirations and so on.
Mervyn Peake's Gormenghast. The ancient traditions, the sense of claustrophobia, Titus dreading the pre-ordained life of ritual that stretched before him....
I wondered about another Prince Charles where he might have escaped all this pomp and ceremony...but now some sing, "Long Live the King!". And he waves and seems to enjoy it all.
Anyway, that's it really.
Did you catch any of the Scottish part of the journey?
Good ole Queenie, timing it like that, huh?
I'm happy that the story lingers in minds other than my own.
Quoting Amity
Yes, I too thought about Gormenghast, when I was watching the accession ceremonies.
Quoting Amity
No, I didn't see it on TV and I had already left Edinburgh by that time, to return to a country whose head of state remains in his position. :sad:
How could it not? Hope it's not a one-hit wonder!
Quoting Jamal
How incredible that such remain...for how long? Anti-monarchy protestors arrested...
Quoting Jamal
Yes. For how long and who will succeed him?
Another drama awaits...
I've written something else but it's already at 5,000 words (the maximum for the TPF competition) and looks like it'll end up with at least 10,000.
I rudely neglected to say good morning: good morning.
A novel, then. Yay :cool:
Quoting Jamal
Well, we'll call it quits.
I neglected to ask about your hols in Scotland and beyond.
Did you write any 'Wish you were here!' PCs?
I didn't write any postcards or even post anything on social media. It's as if I never went.
But I did went. Saw the folks, saw old friends, cycled around Cumbrae (Millport), went to Nardini's, saw a couple of shows at the Edinburgh Festival, stayed on a boat, got drunk on a bench in the Meadows, and swam in the sea. The last bit was in Turkey though.
Brilliant :up:
Quoting Jamal
Thanks for the PC. Your wenting and waying sounds perfect.
Never been to the Isle of Cumbrae:
https://millport.org/
For me, as a reluctant driver and now wary of planning public transport, the West coast is a bugger to reach from the East.
Stayed on a boat. Not the Royal Yacht Brittania, then?
I remember a drunken autumnal walk through the Meadows. Kicking leaves and twirling.
Those were the days. So glad that some can still experience the joys :cool:
We were lucky and missed the strikes. Train from Edinburgh to Glasgow, 50 minutes. Walk from Queen Street to Central, 15 minutes. Train from Central to Largs, about an hour. Ferry from Largs to Millport, 10 minutes. Not bad.
Quoting Amity
Recently the old minesweeper that was rusting in the Water of Leith for decades at the Shore was converted into a hotel and named the Ocean Mist. It was nice but I preferred the mews cottage in Stockbridge the following weekend.
A well-planned, posh and delightful holiday :up:
Millport is tempting. Perhaps I can persuade my personal chauffeur...but then where to stay?
Here is fine right now - sunny and warm - no dashing about -
Yes, and during the festival too, so now I'm skint.
Quoting Amity
I didn't stay in Millport but I can pass on a recommendation to stay at the Cathedral of the Isles and Collegiate Church of the Holy Spirit, which is the smallest cathedral in the British Isles and has a guest house.
https://cathedralguesthouse.co.uk/
If you have the time, tell Jenkins to take you the scenic route instead of the M8.
For me, scenic routes are a pleasure, even if at times a pain. Think tractors and harvesters.
As for Jenkins, he has no fear of the dreadful M8 and feels the need for speed.
I see there are a number of alternative routes, do you have a favourite?
My mother grew up in New York City. Sometimes when visiting her father, she took either my brother or me with her. She would often take us to plays. I saw Theodore Bikel playing Captain von Trapp in "The Sound of Music" in the early 60s. If I remember correctly, when I saw the play, Julie Andrews had replaced Mary Martin as Maria. Martin originated the role.
According to Wikipedia, von Trapp was the most successful Austro-Hungarian submarine commander of World War I, sinking 11 Allied merchant ships.
How about Linlithgow, Falkirk, Carron Valley, Loch Lomond, Erskine Bridge, Bridge of Weir, Haylie Brae?
It sounds so spectacular the way I've described it doesn't it? So much different than saying I loaded everything into the SUV, drove through the backroads of Georgia, ate at Arby's, and then went to the beach.
I think it comes in dollops, not dashes.
It does! You are correct. Have you also dined at Arby's?
https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/the-redneck-games-are-back-in-central-georgia/93-c2505c68-793e-41e7-9d6f-b9d36ea24fe6
No, but there are a few in Istanbul, which is quite handy for me.
:up: :clap:
You've given me much to think about, thanks.
If I decide to drive, then a few breaks along the way will be in order.
Also, a close eye on the weather forecast :cool:
I meant to ask:
Was it a Special Occasion/Celebration holiday?
@Bitter Crank and I have a name for people like you. We call you "youngsters."
Half a century, huh? No' bad. Congrats. Keep it up :party:
Were you given the customary 50 'dumps' or 'bumps'? :scream:
John Chapple, the beekeeper at Buckingham Palace, reportedly informed Queen Elizabeth II’s bees of her death. Cue the mockery.
A spokesbee said that it was time to get the next show on the road by force-feeding a larva royal jelly. It also said that it was time to drive out the drones, so goodbye Charles. The spokesbee mentioned that bees were curious about how human larvae were turned into queens. What sort of larva was the dead queen?
It was an exceptional concoction, far beyond my usual results. Fit for a queen.
You don't put thyme and rosemary?
Thanks. And no, I've always managed to avoid the indignity of the dumps. First because my birthday is during the school holidays, so when I was a child it was rare that my peers were gathered in sufficient numbers to administer them, and second because I have not had many birthday parties. Even this year, in which I am light enough to be thrown into the air by a medium-sized posse, I was careful to see my friends separately instead of all together.
70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from nothing (Sep 13, 2022)
But also...
But again...
(my emphasis)
I don't want to belittle the progress in physics, but with this kind of reporting it's no wonder people are confused.
Earlier comment - physicists/cosmologists use the verbiage in their own way.
Quoting jorndoe
So the journalist in this case switches between, on the one hand the second and third senses (where "void" and "empty" are taken colloquially, and not to imply the first and fourth senses), and, on the other hand, the first and fourth senses, which refer to states that either don't exist in physics or else aren't relevant.
(Try watching the last few seconds looking out the back...)
Thanks. Interesting. The article says something from nothing, but you're right, it's not really. The quantum vacuum is not really nothing. It's not that it's impossible to get something from nothing, apparently it's just impossible to have nothing in the first place.
I appreciate your patience. It was a two shot against shingles. The pharmacist didn't warn me that I would likely be down for the weekend. It got so bad that I didn't want to get the second one. He promised that I would not have the same reaction and I trusted him.
Turns out he was right. The second dose was easy peasey.
Shinglex I think was the name of it.
My Mom had it on her face and was in a ton of pain. Hopefully I headed it off at the pass.
Probably nobody noticed my absence in these days but this was the reason. I felt like the stupidest boy in the earth but after crying out for my wounds I am ready to study again for the next test around 2023/2024. I need to be patient... :sparkle: :cheer:
Sorry to hear that, javi. See PM. Take care :pray: :sparkle:
:up: :flower:
You only failed if you stop trying.
You succeeded in your first run through and will make it to your goal. That's a win!
Anyone that has worked as hard as you have understand fully the inner pressure we put on ourselves.
If you don't mind sharing, what industry is the test for?
The test was for a public work. It is called land recorder. There were 182 topics included in the exam. But the exam is random and it only comes 4 different topics out of those 182. You have to study all of them because you will never know what the exam would holds.
I was completely lost in two of the topics in the exam
Interesting web search...
So...are you studying to be someone who might work for the county, who assesses and defines, or let's say redefines the flood zone that runs through half of our ranch?
Cause if you are....I have two positions on your soon to be cohorts assessment and how it affects the value of our property.
Am I close to understanding the gig?
Mom wrote my divorce attorney and cc'd me on it. AFTER she sent it. I told her she is channelling my Dad and she said "You bet!"
Yes, you are close. But the work I am studying for is based on national laws. I live in Spain and we do not have states or ranches here. We are centralist.
Exactly. But this specific job has more hierarchy than autonomous regions so the state is the only one with competencies. Another similar examples: Judges and public notaries.
Genesis 1:1 to 1:3:
King James translation: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light:"
Professor Friedman's translation: "In the beginning of God's creating the skies and the earth when the earth had been shapeless and formless, and darkness was on the face of the deep, and God's spirit was hovering on the fact of the water, God said, 'let there be light.'"
https://www.cse.msu.edu/~weinshan/Intelligent%20Design%20Debate%20WEINSHANK%203-19-02%20FOR%20POSTING%20ON%20WEB%20SITE/sld035.htm
The first translation refers to creating something from nothing. The second refers to bringing light to the primordial chaos.
What's a guy supposed to believe?
Void and chaos could be the same thing. If you're mind can't grasp anything because of the lack of form, for all practical purposes, there's nothing there.
Truck
The headline from Oklahoma City reads:
Wrecked semi shoots load of dildos and lube all over I-40…
If God were funnier, this would have happened on I-69. Apparently he's not omnihumorous. He's just regular old funny, which is why he gets heckled sometimes.
A little pick me up.
"With ‘The Little Mermaid’ can we can we also just mention that from a from a scientific perspective, that it doesn’t make a lot of sense to have someone with darker skin who lives deep in the ocean?” Walsh said. “Not only should the Little Mermaid be pale, she should actually be translucent. If you look at deep sea creatures or like translucent, they have no kind of pigmentation whatsoever. And they’re just like these horrifying, they look like skeletons floating around in the ocean. That’s what the Little Mermaid should look like. She should be totally pale and skeletal where you can see her skull through her face. And that would actually be a version of Little Mermaid that I would watch.”
I guess sometimes people sit around and say stupid shit and forget they're on TV.
[sup]May 2020 · The Four Different Meanings Of 'Nothing' To A Scientist (?)
Oct 2021 · Surprise: the Big Bang isn’t the beginning of the universe anymore
Dec 2021 · This is why physicists suspect the Multiverse very likely exists
Mar 2022 · Ask Ethan: Did our Universe really arise from nothing?
Sep 2022 · 70-year-old quantum prediction comes true, as something is created from nothing[/sup]
Confuzzling in some ways, and frontiers are usually in motion.
What a crock!
Axiom: it is best to ignore any Amazon or Goodreads book review.
That's exactly what I always read about Don Quixote's and Ulysses reviews :cry:
I expected that response, and it's a good rule of thumb, but there are some diamonds in the rough.
Quoting javi2541997
One star reviews of classic books are often hilarious though. (I've read and enjoyed Don Quixote a couple of times but I haven't read Ulysses.)
I really wanted to like this.
I think everyone wants to like any book they've decided to read, so maybe it means, "I really expected to like this." Or maybe it's this: "people I respect seem to like this book so I wanted to be part of that crowd." I'm not sure.
I tried. I really did.
My guess is that this locution comes out of "Yes. Yes you did." and similar clichés from comedy. But what about the meaning? In most cases it's probably a lie: the reviewer tried insofar as they started reading the book, but beyond that I don't believe it. But if you don't like something, why should you read it anyway? So does it mean anything more than "I didn't like it"? They might want to assure us that they gave it a good chance, that they did not rush to judgement, which I guess is fair enough, but that should come out of the meat of the review. Why declare it at the beginning?
I'll tell you why. Beyond their horrible clichédness, these usages serve to draw attention to the reviewer rather than to the book. They're self-important where they should be offering informed and intelligent opinions about the book.
:roll:
Goodreads aggregate rating maybe.
Any particular book you were interested in...?
How about we quote the first sentence from a review and then guess the title and author:
No cheating. First impression!
:up:
Just being annoying.
I can't remember. Maybe Italo Calvino or Christopher Priest or Saramago. But you can find those kind of reviews all over the place.
I'll guess Kant or Hegel. Probably Kant's Critique of Pure Reason, given the "critical" clue. I can attest that it's difficult to get through.
Yes, I know. They stand out. However, if you scroll past all the zero stars, then you usually find the opposite exclamations galore, fab!!!!!!! And then the really helpful type, like a few posters here.
Quoting Jamal
Nope. Try again - 3rd time lucky?
I can't get past the word "critical". To me that implies either Kant or a critical theorist. Third guess: Habermas.
Sorry. But interesting choices. We should look up their reviews :wink:
OK! Are you ready for this...
Quoting Amazon review
I haven't read Thus Spake Zarathustra myself, only Genealogy of Morals and Beyond Good and Evil.
And after that review, you're still not interested in reading TSZ? Quite heavy...
Not something you would write?
When are we gonna hear more about your novel?
Not really, although I may read it one day. I find Nietzsche rather tiresome at times.
Quoting Amity
I would if I could!
Quoting Amity
I'm stuck because I started it with no clear idea where it was going. It might just be a long short story or novella though.
A couple of one star Amazon reviews I just found:
For Kant's Critique of Pure Reason: "This book is. the worst"
For Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit: "Bunch of ballocks"
'Ballocks' ?!
I like it, never heard that version before. Is it Irish?
Quoting Jamal
Well, Plum Pie worked out yummily enough. Is this one as fruity...or oaty?
It had a certain kind of tart sweetness that appealed to some.
Quoting Amity
No, it's about shoes.
From dead babies to Queen-size. Who fills them with what...and how.
There will have to be some kind of fatal fetishist or sweet soul involved. Both? More?
Already intrigued!
Working title: "Mountain Valley Footwear Chronicles"
The beginning of chapter one:
Otherwise :zip:
Already product placement x 2. Are you hoping to be sponsored?
'CHIRALITY'. Another new word. A forensic scientist logging the details? Hmmm...
'Footedness' just wouldn't be right...or left...
An exclamation "A shoe!'' - so, great detective work, not. Just a passer-by...
Quoting Jamal
OK. That will have to do...until December, then?
Not quite.
Quoting Amity
Well, maybe, maybe not. As I say, it'll be too long for the competition in any case.
I'm sad. So sad.
Looks like I'll have to wait for the Amazon reviews then?!
Footnote:
I really wanted to like this.
:lol: :rage:
[ [s]Apparently an ironic tale, it was written in 1909 by an eventual Nobel Prize Winner.[/s] ] *
Can you guess the title and author from this Amazon review? No peeking!
* Do not read the clue. Strike it from your mind!
Oh, man! So very disappointing... :sad:
No, sorry.
Here's the first paragraph of an Amazon review of Orlando:
:lol:
OK, a hint:
a [s]German[/s] novelist, short story writer, social critic, philanthropist, essayist and [s]1929[/s] Nobel laureate.
No peeking!
Come on...you gotta get it now!
Yay :100: :party:
And the book?...
...
Quoting Librivox: Royal Highness by Thoman Mann
Will see what my ears think of this translation. If the narrator's voice grates, then I'm done for.
Have you read any Mann, anyone? Recommend?
OK.
It seems I've mentioned him before. Only three years ago!
A search shows that I participated in a Hegel reading group. Hah. Who knew?!
Reading Group, Preface to Hegel's Phenomenology of Spirit, trans. Walter Kaufman.
***
If Mann admired Goethe, then he's good enough for me!!
Now that's more my jam.
You're a Goethe fan? I haven't read him either but he's much more attractive to me than Mann.
Never mind. It was a bit of fun, thanks for joining in :up:
You never read Mann? Well, perhaps we should start a Listening Group?
Kafka. I read a while ago. The Trial.
Another Amazon review, first sentence:
@Jamal See what you started!
Oh yeah, I might have mentioned him a few times, along with Italy and Marcus.
But that's another story...
So some would say :cool:
I really like Ethan Siegal. I've already read the most recent article. I'll go ahead and read the rest. Thanks.
Humboldt - another new read or listen for me, thanks!
Sounds like he and Goethe were soul mates.
Quoting Librivox: Personal narrative by Alexander Von Humboldt
https://librivox.org/personal-narrative-1-by-alexander-von-humboldt/
I've found that the three star reviews often have interesting and valuable things to say about the books and the products too. But you're right, even the grodiest grot books get 4.5 stars. Books that get four stars or less are often well written and given high marks by outside reviewers.
When I read how wonderful people say a book is, I want to read it and I want like it too. Sometimes that doesn't work out. Also, I often want to read the great books to show how sofistimikated I am. I read "Moby Dick" in high school and I'd like to read it again, but I never get past the first five chapters.
As I've noted before, I took a speed reading course and read "War and Peace" in 20 minutes. It involves Russia.
Self-reference - reviewing book reviews. I like it.
I'm sure Baden will move the thread to the Lounge. When I ask him why he'll respond "This is a pointless and trivial discussion. I should have deleted it but I wanted to be nice." Then I'll copy his post to my new thread and write "Buzz off fuzz nuts," but nobody will read it because it's in the Lounge.
Here's an example of how it might work:
Quoting I like sushi
Buzz off fuzz nuts.
Reminds me that Chevy Chase wasn't always a complete waste of TV bandwidth.
What the hell! :eyes:
This is an old joke. Please use fresh material.
Quoting T Clark
That might be the top "should have read it / should read it / will never read it" title, at least in American literature. I should have, should, and will never. I read Bartleby the Scrivener a Story of Wall Street a long time ago. It's much shorter than Moby Dick and doesn't have any whales in it. The take-away for this book is Bartleby's response to work-related requests, 'I would prefer not to." It didn't end well.
I didn't read War and Peace either. As English majors can attest, a lot of famous novels are too long and pretty dull.
However, both are or have been forced on schoolchildren, which I don’t approve of. They’re not childrens’ books. I’ve found that I don’t want to reread the books I had to read at school, and I think this is a common experience.
Yes, an old joke, but I laugh every time I use it. This won't be the last time you see it. By the way, I have read "War and Peace" the old fashioned way and it does involve Russia. I also enjoyed it.
I thought about you when I posted that. I didn't think you'd be offended. You don't seem like you would be a big fan of Franco.
I didn't get offended! It was funny, indeed. But it surprised me how an old TV show made some jokes about Franco. We always say here that nobody cared about us under Franco's regime...
My family members even fought in the Republican side. But that's an old history...
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No doubt! I read Anna Karenina (long time ago) and liked it; I enjoyed other novels by Melville.
Quoting Jamal
Amen.
I don't want to abolish the canon of literature, and I have read and enjoyed great books; but I honestly don't see what is so great about some of them. Some of the greats are too long-winded for their own good, for one thing. For another group, too large an effort to bridge time and cultural differences is required for easy pleasure. And another--my own cultural horizons are kind of narrow.
I like what I have read of Boswell. One of my favorite pieces recounts his plan to resuscitate a man who is to be hanged for theft. They acquire the corpse very promptly, but alas, they can't bring him back to life.
A lot of 20th century American literature isn't irresistible either. Fortunately, there is enough good literature to keep us occupied.
Banana foster.
And what significance does this have with the Queen, exactly?
I’ll bet it would work with diced dates instead of brown sugar.
Well, personally, out of respect for Our Majesty (god bless her soul) I would save the banana foster selfies for AFTER the holiday.
The Queen was the monarch of Australia and Foster's is Australian for beer and I ate banana foster.
Do I really have to connect the dots for you?
War and Peace is great, never dull, with excellent character development, along with the parallel development of the character of the countries involved. Definitely not suited for children though, just like the classic cartoons, Looney Tunes and such. All the intellectual stuff goes right over their heads, and without the action it's dull.
Did I mention I read it in 20 minutes? Actually, I think it took me three weeks.
:up: :yum:
It looks like so yummy and tasty.
Three weeks is a pretty good time-lapse. Such big books took me even months.
I remember that Murakami's 1Q84 (first and second part) took like three or four months...
I wasted too much time on that one too.
Oh my goodness, I am terribly sorry. How could I have been so blind? Carry on sir.
Australians often find this ad campaign amusing since Fosters is rarely consumed in the land of its origin. For a piss-poor beer we do actually drink try Victoria Bitter.
I met a man from Newcastle on a train to Newcastle who informed me of the same, which is that he thought Newcastle beer sucked.
I had once thought Jack Daniel's from my homeland was cheap redneck whiskey designed for getting drunk and stupid, only to learn from others later it was a fine product, but still designed for getting drunk and stupid.
The word "import" we are led to by believe means "better ," which is why Americans are loved the world over when they pay visits to foreign lands.
That’s funny. Years ago I used to like the big cans to get a little drunk (I was already stupid) because they were sold as singles.
I really liked that book, although Murakami's style takes some getting used to. Everything, no matter how significant or odd, is done deadpan. The whole world is deadpan, matter of fact. I wonder if that's a Japanese thing. I don't remember how long it took me to read.
Ah, the Simpsons. There's a video clip for every subject.
It is a completely Japanese thing, indeed! :sweat:
So he is a "modernized" writer but despite that I see a lot of Japanese stuff. For example: The role of female characters and the loneliness you can perceive in their stories (well this is how I see it :smile: )
Needn't be embarrassed. I think most take them as comical caricatures.
It's what I imagine dabbling with peyote might be like.
I'll keep you posted.
I previously paid a fee to become an ordained minister. If any of you guys die, give me a call, and I'll perform a discounted funeral for you. Be sure to tell me your preferred hole depth. Deep is expensive. Shallow and watery is more affordable.
Lemme know!
Apparently he's died. The naming turns out to have been contingent after all. I'm expecting a national holiday, and nine straight days of mourning eulogies all over my tv.
I think that's just a Walker rally.
So I hear. My daughter made me watch a couple of episodes of the show once.
Lunch: Veggie wraps consisting of chickpea salad, greens, tomato, bell pepper, homemade pickled turnips, Syrian cheese, and hummus. My own invention.
Dinner: Greek chicken thighs with a yogurt dill sauce and Greek orzo pasta salad. This was two recipes. Will report back when I've tried it all.
Whatever happened to Castlemaine XXXX? It disappeared from the UK at some point close to the turn of the millennium, was its disappearance related to the millennium bug? Or were the adverts just too rebellious against common health and safety advice in the UK?
My guess is that his physique is owed to many cases of low rent beer.
Don't think I've seen it here. Again, a limited fan base in Australia - perhaps up north - our version of the deep south.
My fav advert for Tennent's Lager in Scotland.
I often ask for it when I visit a shop that stocks a wide range of beers/lagers, but no joy as yet.
Where can you get Greek chickens in NYC?
All the diners are run by Greeks.
Try this one:.
The Greek chicken store.
These photos are all part of my new collection I call "Suburban Rhapsody"
Well, big brother knows what's best for you kid! :halo:
Excellent! But it looks to me to be a left ear rather than a right. Was the camera on "selfie" mode? Maybe call it "Selfish Sub Bourbon Rhapsody". And see if you can get the bottle in the next shot, would ya please?
And, let me know when the peyote is secured, I'll be the first to join the congregation.
How much?
I'm not sure I appreciate the tonality when concerning the Esteemed QEII, but good song.
Should @Janus rename this site The Theology Forum?
Sure.
It's pretty dated, for one thing, and like the folk genre of the 1960s, was satirical and sarcastic. It was somewhat tacky of me to post it.
Has there been a revolution? Did @Janus overthrow @Jamal?
And they’re all by the member called Art48, so it’s not an epidemic, just an individual who posts about religion too much.
Last night someone asked me to delete their account. I can’t remember who it was but the name “ArielAssante” rings a bell.
Couscous
Pomegranate arils
Feta cheese
Apple
Yellow pepper
Black olives
Parsley
Extra seasoning is not required because the olives and feta are salty.
I heard that can be the first sign, hearing ringing bells in your head.
'Do not ask for whom the bells toll .........
I clicked on the ArielAssante name, used as a quote for a reply in a post and it linked to 'deleted user,' so that's how I knew it was that member who was deleted and being the, at times, 'auld gossipy numbnuts' that I am, I wondered why.
YOU WOT MATE! NO CHIPS??????? :cry:
* For non-Brits who might be reading this, “pie” refers here to scotch pie, which is a high-energy mutton pie.
In the LATE nineties, I worked at WA in Greenock, (aka Wellington Academy). For lunch and 'breaktime,' the canteen (aka food hall) provided a very limited range of cheap food, but a large portion of the pupils had exactly the same thing every day, scotch pie, chips and beans. This was perfectly reasonable to me as it fitted with Scotland's cunning plan to take over the world by producing many children who saw people who ate vegetables as 'consumable,' if minced and placed inside a scotch pie.
A pupil or teacher could get themselves beat up for using such 'weirdo words' as vegetable!
Oh how I miss those colourful crazy dazes.
Pretty sure there weren't.
:rage:
Now surely that's a deeply philosophical quote!
"Desert in philosophy is the condition of being deserving of something, whether good or bad. It is a concept often associated with justice: that good deeds should be rewarded and evil deeds punished."
Does 'potatoes for desSert' exemplify the moral dilemma of what blurs the line between good and evil deeds? Or maybe I just drink too much Guinness, (a pleasant little porter!) when there is no more whiskey in the jar
Lest we forget!
My favorite part of those days was capitalizing the word "late."
I've thought long and hard about which ingredients are essential, which non-essential. In a nutshell, it's far and away best with all the ingredients, but if you had to do without something it would have to be the pomegranate or apple. The magic for me centres around the feta, olives, yellow pepper, and parsley.
Yeah, I agree, one of the best ever. Most will get up to dance or sing along or move their feet to that one.
It's a very old song:
[i]The song's exact origins are unknown. A number of its lines and the general plot resemble those of a contemporary broadside ballad "Patrick Fleming" (also called "Patrick Flemmen he was a Valiant Soldier") about Irish highwayman Patrick Fleming, who was executed in 1650.
In the book The Folk Songs of North America, folk music historian Alan Lomax suggests that the song originated in the 17th century, and (based on plot similarities) that John Gay's 1728 The Beggar's Opera was inspired by Gay hearing an Irish ballad-monger singing "Whiskey in the Jar". In regard to the history of the song, Lomax states, "The folk of seventeenth century Britain liked and admired their local highwaymen; and in Ireland (or Scotland) where the gentlemen of the roads robbed English landlords, they were regarded as national patriots. Such feelings inspired this rollicking ballad."
At some point, the song came to the United States and was a favourite in Colonial America because of its irreverent attitude toward British officials. The American versions are sometimes set in America and deal with American characters. One such version, from Massachusetts, is about Alan McCollister, an Irish-American soldier who is sentenced to death by hanging for robbing British officials.
The song appeared in a form close to its modern version in a precursor called "The Sporting Hero, or, Whiskey in the Bar" in a mid-1850s broadsheet.
The song collector Colm Ó Lochlainn, in his book Irish Street Ballads, described how his mother learnt "Whiskey in the Jar" in Limerick in 1870 from a man called Buckley who came from Cork. When Ó Lochlainn included the song in Irish Street Ballads, he wrote down the lyrics from memory as he had learnt them from his mother. He called the song "There's Whiskey in the Jar", and the lyrics are virtually identical to the version that was used by Irish bands in the 1960s such as the Dubliners. The Ó Lochlainn version refers to the "far fam'd Kerry mountain" rather than the Cork and Kerry mountains, as appears in some versions.
The song also appears under the title "There's Whiskey in the Jar" in the Joyce collection, but that only includes the melody line without any lyrics. Versions of the song were collected in the 1920s in Northern Ireland by song collector Sam Henry. It is Roud Folk Song Index no. 533[/i]
:cool:
I decided against my normal use of f****** f***** or fasterisk fasterisked, as I did not want to dilute the words of the fantastic MUSE!
Now, we will take a revenge and start flagging all your posts :rofl: :naughty:
I tried it with dried cranberries for pomegranate and brown rice for couscous. :up:
Quoting universeness
Quoting Baden
Quoting Hanover
Jesus…how old are you people?
:chin: :wink:
In college I recorded Jay Ungar, Ken Burns soundtrack man, doing a live studio session in which he played fiddle, accompanied by a four piece. This was the EARLY TO LATE 90's.
Why you asking Jesus?
Did you have a delicious bowl of deep-fried chipped potatoes on the side, with salt, vinegar and brown HP sauce?
I don't encourage innovation with this recipe but I imagine this might be quite good, so I'll let it pass.
I bet 150 € that the mods behind the hub are teenagers or even a worse an auto mod who is not working good.
Jesus is even older than me. He's celebrating his 2022'nd birthday this year though he has entirely forgotten which day it was and exactly how many years old he is. Back in the fifties, I wouldn't have been allowed to say that.
Well, it's not easy being your own father and asking yourself why hast thou forsaken me?
I wonder if Jesus would prefer a nice bowl of crispy fat chips with salt and vinegar and HP brown sauce to @Jamals "I've thought long and hard about which ingredients are essential" bland sounding concoction?
Quoting unenlightened
You might still go to hell! Do you think they will serve chips in hell? Please don't tell me we will all be force fed @Jamals concoctions! :scream:
Hmmm... I've known some people here for half my life. Weird.
Here - this is my @Hanover impression:
Well, I substituted macaroni for the couscous and Velveeta processed cheese product for the feta and then left the rest out. It was great!
My wife has distilled the formula for all my jokes and sometimes she'll start telling what I think to be the funniest jokes I've ever heard, only for me to finally figure out she was being me.
My point being that you're just like my wife. Where's my supper?
I agree with your [s]opinion[/s] delusion. Our genius is underappreciated.
I was thinking about this some more. Seems like you're lucky enough to have someone who gets you. Not necessarily a common thing.
Got it right the second time.
I was surprised to find that Burns' Civil War series was broadcast in 1990, 32 years ago; it doesn't seem like it was that far back. Shoah, a French production, was a 9 hour TV series in 1987, another very impressive documentary series.
I should mention that that story is true, but the timeline was fictional. That session was around 2010 I think.
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/739735
In another tragedy, there was crash in Florida today:
Coors Light?
This was no tragedy.
[i]Chris Impey
The Conversation
Sep 19, 2022[/i]
avocados
cheddar cheese
mint
dried cranberries
salsa
Anyone here get this reference?
I forget. Was this the movie Sally Field got her Oscar for?
I watched the Flying Nun. The Flying Nun was a friend of mine. You're no Flying Nun.
C'est bon. :up:
Brown rice! :yum:
As kids we were obsessed with Smokey and the Bandit and The Cannonball Run. Around that time a few people I knew were into CB radio as well, which may have been related.
I had a CB back then and I'd talk to nearby people. I talked to one lady about the squirrels in her attic. I can't recall the exact details, but every few nights for a few weeks I'd get back on and find her and bring the squirrel conversation back up. She seemed a little annoyed that I insisted on focusing on that topic, but not so much that she'd stop talking to me. I eventually grew tired of the CB and left the squirrel talk behind. Until now.
What about you? Any squirrel issues we need to discuss?
I have the vision of a chase on a twisty turny Scottish road. They come around a corner and there's a herd of sheep in the middle of the road, so they have to wait to continue the chase.
In Scotland they call them leprechauns. Oh, wait, that's Ireland.
I think you know I have squirrel issues and you’re just rubbing salt in my wounds.
Be that as it may, on the day I flew to Scotland my brother said to me—this is a true story and I might have told it here already—that he foresaw a squirrel encounter in my near future. Well, I went for a walk the next day and saw a squirrel in a Presbyterian cemetery. It was only a non-native American grey so it didn’t really count, but still, it made me ponder the nature of things.
Quoting T Clark
I like it.
I’ve been stuck in a car waiting for sheep a few times in the Highlands, a few times waiting for goats elsewhere in Europe, and for semi-wild horses in the Pyrenees.
The main reason I liked Cannonball Run was Adrienne Barbeau.
There are no squirrels in Ireland. Oh, wait, that's snakes.
I feel jealousy. All I've had to wait for are geese and cows.
I know you're thinking that can't be true because all my sheep stories must end with someone having sex with the sheep. Yeah, not this time.
Note the complexity of this joke. It makes fun of my formulaic jokes, showing I have nuance, self-awareness, humility, maturity, and charm.
It reminds me of the time I fucked @Baden's mother.
OMG, I remember you! How have you been stardust Lily!
God cannot be invented until the sheep choose their path in Scotland. All gods bow to the Shepard. This commandment is written and will be done, lest the chip and the potato part ways. So sayeth the lord thy god., who existeth not! YEP, Friday night and I have been drinkin too much single malt! NEVER go onto TPF whilst totally pissed!!! I will regret this tomorrow morning!
I feel envy. I haven't had the pleasure of waiting for cows. Geese I don't care about.
I was at the park the other day and a ham radio group was stretching wires all around the trees I think to communicate with Mars or something and it made me happy to be cooler than someone else for a moment, but then I reported that on a philosophy website I frequent, and then I wasn't anymore.
True story.
If they turn out to be an art collective working on their submission for the Turner prize then they won't look so uncool.