Tom Storm

Can consciousness and self-organization rightly be called a theory? It seems a bit slender to me.

I didn't really understand what Dewey meant but I thought it was an interesting perspective given your angle. You seem to keep shoehorning consciousne...

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Hmm. I've known a lot of people who think they have lived with suffering and depravation and frankly, their only real problem is a tendency towards th...

Kind of. There's a pretty good discussion of this by David Tong @ the Royal Institution on YouTube. It's calledQuantum Fields The Real Building Blocks...

We've never not known. :wink:

That's a significant point. Interpretations of a musical text can transform it in either direction. I love Richard Strauss' Four Last Songs, but it's ...

Yep. So in the end we're back to that old fashioned notion of personal taste.

Well it does if you are basing you entire life, and that of your family, upon literalism. No one looses anything if Tiny Tim is a fiction. It's a tall...

I hear you, but pretty often, if you keep following questions, you end up in potentially unsettling situations. Ask any competent journalist. And, I g...

I'm partly in sympathy with this except that a genuine conversation has more clarity and is an exchange and we can ask for clarifications - art is oft...

But doesn't this also describe any experience humans have, art being just one of an endless possibility? It doesn't help us understand art in any way ...

The problem for me is that this fact is not unique to art, it describes almost anything you care to experience. Seems to me there's no difference betw...

And then what? What does this insight provide us with?

All you are saying is fairly interesting but what does it bring us in real terms? So we have yet more theory about art - a subject that virtually hemo...

I think you're right. Most religions ask unacceptable behavior from followers and seek to impose their often bigoted and unsophisticated views on the ...

And conversely, just because people think they have a bad life doesn't mean they do.

Isn't that just a variation of the old - 'Does a falling tree make a sound if no one is there to hear it?' I would have thought that all art effects p...

I called alternative facts when the talking snake showed up... - Genesis 3

How do you understand a given artistic work through this position? Does a work not provide the observer's mind with something to consider?

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My sympathy is always with the folk in the cave. Why would you leave when things are predictable and familiar? There is no great psychological benefit...

It's not much of a mystery. What is it to take anything as anything, as people are wont to do? Humans are meaning making creatures and we like decorat...

:gasp: I'll try to make sense of this and see if I can handle it.

This is not my experience. Your observations read like you have some resentment towards women. My first wife was a model and attractive. You never, ev...

I was serious. I'm aware of St A's version of the argument but I have never studied any type of logic. It seems so tedious.

Perhaps I'm the only one, but I have no idea what any of this means.

Indeed. "I regard monotheism as the greatest disaster ever to befall the human race. I see no good in Judaism, Christianity, or Islam -- good people, ...

I often find myself making a distinction between craft and art. Is a pair of exquisite, hand made shoes an example of art or craft? I tend to go with ...

You provided an example already. Women who think Covid vax will make them infertile (there is no evidence for this). But others include; people with m...

Not at all. People might act on reasons which they believe are in the best interests for their survival. But their beliefs may be based on reasons tha...

Cool, maybe we'll crash into each other using Dewey as a banana peel...

Incidentally, it interests me how often the question 'what is good art?' is often mistaken for the question, 'what is art?'. It’s as if a work can onl...

So my quote above was a hypothetical question to Joshs, reflecting some of the themes he introduces. I don't elevate rationalism as such. The point is...

Thanks for the thoughtful comments. Yes, I share Praxis' view and I was just throwing out a quick and dirty definition, mainly because I was slightly ...

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The fact that this might not be the case never occurred to me.

Thanks for clarifying it. It's beyond me but good to know.

Indeed Mr Buddha... I suspect that deep is a metaphor that has almost gotten the better of us. "To me the meanest flower that blows can give thoughts ...

Sorry, still doesn't work for me. There's nothing in the use of the word information or self-organization that informs the idea of art or philosophy. ...

Interesting, and this is not intended as criticism - does this make you a system builder, a theorist - neither or both?

Prefect and that for me summarizes the tensions inherent in my relationship with philosophy, such as it is. I never seem to know when I should fester ...

I can't and I bear you no ill will. Just don't see your point. I am very interested in what people say about art. Even critics. :fire: Seems to me art...

Sorry this just sounds confused. Again, what does it add to any understanding of art? You might as well say it is the talent of the artist that is spe...

Ok. Thanks. I don't understand your account of what Nietzsche means but I find generally find Nietzsche unreadable (even the Kaufmann translations) so...

You still haven't explained why this point matters. Essentially you are saying that anything done by humans is consciousness at work. If everything is...

This is interesting. Art provides something? How is this related to what we were saying? So far I thought the point was that I have personal taste (su...

Sounds like you've had a bad experience. Not sure I have ever met an analytic philosopher. But I note that you didn't explain the quote and since you ...

I think those are just words. Not sure they really connect to anything except as a figure of speech. You could also say, and with no greater meaning, ...

No idea. Does anyone really know? Ususally you develop a taste based on what you get to experience and what out of that experience appeals and sometim...