You are viewing the historical archive of The Philosophy Forum.
For current discussions, visit the live forum.
Go to live forum

creativesoul

Comments

Over the years, I've come to realize that parsing the issues in terms of linguistic and non-linguistic belief is fraught, it quite simply does not wor...
January 16, 2022 at 18:42
To the best of my knowledge, current convention denies that language less creatures can even have belief, to remain consistent with holding that all b...
January 16, 2022 at 08:18
My position is that some belief do indeed have propositional content, but not all. This was explained thoroughly enough in the first three posts of yo...
January 16, 2022 at 08:07
I agree on both points above. There seems to be some special pleading going on, at a bare minimum. Inconsistent terminological use, certainly. That's ...
January 16, 2022 at 07:56
I agree on the points you make here. The false equivalency, it seems to me, comes as a result of using the belief that approach for a task it's not su...
January 14, 2022 at 16:50
I may be of little help or interest here, I'm afraid. This seems to be from speech act theorists(Austin, Searle, Ryle???), and I'm not familiar enough...
January 14, 2022 at 07:54
I'd be honored to offer my feedback to such a carefully well-crafted post. Due to personal time constraints, ease of reading, the desire to offer subs...
January 14, 2022 at 07:29
Rendering the content of something into propositional form warrants neither concluding that the content is propositional nor that the thing is an atti...
January 13, 2022 at 15:48
Addressed six posts back.
January 13, 2022 at 05:19
Unspoken is not language less in the relevant sense. Language less means that they exist in their entirety prior to language. Propositions that someho...
January 13, 2022 at 04:15
Some folk hold that all belief amounts to an attitude towards a proposition. This seems to be the basis of Banno's arguments as well. I've already lev...
January 13, 2022 at 03:30
I am still quite content with the first three posts in the debate. If you'd like to discuss these, I'd be happy to oblige and grateful to have piqued ...
January 13, 2022 at 02:57
That's the general structure used to describe, report upon, take an account of, and/or make some statement about anothers' belief. Do you not draw a d...
January 13, 2022 at 02:44
But why demand this? Who is arguing otherwise? It does not follow from this that the content of all belief is propositional. It follows that the prese...
January 13, 2022 at 02:35
Understood. Good to know. So many terms are loaded and around here, it's far too easy to get distracted by futile arguing over semantics/definitions, ...
January 13, 2022 at 02:24
That verifies the conflation charge. So, no such a thing as an account of a belief then? :brow: Better tell Gettier.
January 12, 2022 at 15:55
Nature excludes humans and all we've done?
January 12, 2022 at 15:48
A pattern? Not my choice of descriptions... All thought consists entirely of correlations drawn between directly and indirectly perceptible things. We...
January 12, 2022 at 08:11
I reject the mental/non mental dichotomy as well as the subject/object dichotomy upon grounds of inadequate explanatory power. Not all things are one ...
January 12, 2022 at 08:06
That's not the way I talk. I reject the very notion of 'mental objects'. What does that have to do with anything. We think about trees too, but trees ...
January 12, 2022 at 07:45
I've no idea what you're trying to say here. What's the significance of encapsulating the term keyboard in quotes? Are you referring to the word or wh...
January 12, 2022 at 07:20
Have I misrepresented the position you argue for/from? You most certainly have just misrepresented mine. Misattributing all those uses of language to ...
January 12, 2022 at 06:11
When I'm heading towards the shed out back, the ducks about my residence can and most certainly do believe that they are about to be fed. They do this...
January 12, 2022 at 06:04
Upon what ground are you stating that language-less creatures' belief has no capacity to be true or false, unless there are such things as non-linguis...
January 12, 2022 at 02:48
He is much more averse to metaphysics than I. He places higher value upon propositional logic than I. He places propositions in a more fundamental rol...
January 12, 2022 at 02:15
Aren't you merely using the keyboard to state your thoughts? Are you merely expressing your thoughts about thought here via common language use? You s...
January 11, 2022 at 05:45
If you're asking me about what 'connects' our thoughts to each other, I would only say that that seems to presuppose some need for something other tha...
January 11, 2022 at 05:33
Could you elaborate? Are you referring to the time period between thoughts? I'm not sure we're on the same page here. What I wrote there was simply th...
January 11, 2022 at 05:15
What I mean is that all thought is existentially dependent upon physical things. The periodic table of elements and all that that current conventional...
January 11, 2022 at 05:07
That's odd... We cannot sensibly swap these words whenever and wherever we chose. That inability to remain sensical when doing so tells me - quite cle...
January 11, 2022 at 05:01
What we're attempting to describe existed in it's entirety long before we began attempting to take it into account. Sure, the terms we use are pivotal...
January 11, 2022 at 04:52
Scientific reasoning has it's limits. Those are often ignored by some using scientific knowledge. Science, for example, has nothing at all to say abou...
January 11, 2022 at 04:35
See where you began with "therefore"? We use that term to indicate that a logical conclusion comes next. What you wrote after "therefore" did not foll...
January 11, 2022 at 04:29
Well, that doesn't follow from what's written, but I do agree. Such discussions are a waste of time.
January 11, 2022 at 04:19
It makes no sense to me to wonder what 'connects our thoughts'. Very very roughly put:Our thoughts connect us to that which is not as well as ourselve...
January 11, 2022 at 04:03
I've no particular conventional understanding in mind. Indeed, philosophy proper hasn't gotten much right at all as far as human thought goes. I work ...
January 11, 2022 at 03:35
I think we have, considerably. The notion of "what connects our thoughts" is problematic itself. It's based upon an understanding that led itself to a...
January 11, 2022 at 03:06
Banno and myself have very similar views, but there are crucial differences. He is more Wittgensteinian than I. Much more actually. However, although ...
January 11, 2022 at 02:56
We agree that morality is enforced. What next? :brow:
January 11, 2022 at 02:50
I've explained my objection above, for the third time. Yes, I can explain how thought works. I would not talk in terms of "thought connections" for al...
January 11, 2022 at 02:43
Well, as astute as Hume was regarding some things, his notion of thought is found sorely wanting. His understanding worked from the notion of percepti...
January 11, 2022 at 02:32
The 'problem' amounted to conflicting understandings is all. I mean, yours and my own, respectively. We have two very different notions of what counts...
January 11, 2022 at 02:21
If morality is always about what should or should not be done in some particular situation or another, and a society is a group of individuals that ha...
January 09, 2022 at 19:29
Cannot. That is exactly the point. Talking in terms of "thought connections" like the OP chose to do is an inadequate method for better understanding ...
January 08, 2022 at 22:04
Perhaps there will be less of a surprise. The problem is that Trump and his supporters in the House and basically the entire right wing conservative m...
January 08, 2022 at 21:42
What would happen to this endeavor if all thought consisted of connections? We would be exploring the possibility of connections connections... See th...
January 08, 2022 at 21:08
It seems more and more evident that there certainly was an attempt to stop the peaceful transition of power, and that that effort was coordinated on m...
January 08, 2022 at 20:48
Witt is wrong. The limits of our language do not represent the limits of our world. They most certainly do represent the limits of what we can sensibl...
January 08, 2022 at 20:20
In response to the OP... The cloth was not a cow. The farmer believed the cloth was a cow. All Gettier problems are accounting malpractices of an othe...
January 08, 2022 at 20:15
As it must be, it is a set of universally applicable principles...
June 26, 2021 at 18:34