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Sorry, by sections we've been discussing I simply meant the paragraphs in §31, which gave rise to the above discussions about games and rules. As far ...
December 02, 2018 at 17:16
§32 is a short but illuminating subsection: §32 brings the discussion so far back to Augustine briefly, and is thus useful to measure the distance tra...
December 02, 2018 at 07:19
Mm, it is not the mere fact of 'having descriptions' that matters. That alone would pull the rug out from any causal theory before it even got off the...
December 02, 2018 at 06:37
Awkward.
December 02, 2018 at 06:09
I ate your friend Paul btw. He's been replaced by a robot that looks a great deal like Paul. I'm sorry you had to find out this way.
December 02, 2018 at 06:05
I'm simply commenting on the phenomenon of 'what seems obvious' - not really anything to do with the book or its argument. Kripke does a better and mo...
December 02, 2018 at 06:04
I would hold off, for now, of getting too deep into a discussion of the nature of games and their relation to rules. There's alot of that to come, and...
December 02, 2018 at 05:50
It's interesting 'what seems obvious' to different people. I remember the first time I came across Kripke's thesis that names have literally nothing t...
December 02, 2018 at 05:46
There is no textual evidence to support arbitrarily cleaving the phrase in two. Speaking of 'stretchs of creative interpretation'. Nothing in the rest...
December 01, 2018 at 17:14
§31: §31 continues the theme, already developed previously, that an ostensive explanation requires knowing something about the kind of thing that is b...
December 01, 2018 at 03:00
Noting and correcting irrelevancies is important sometimes :)
December 01, 2018 at 00:19
Not interested in your comment. I'm interested in reading the PI.
November 30, 2018 at 23:58
This is all well and good, until, of course, one pays attention to the specificity of Wittgenstein's example, which for reminders' sake, runs like thi...
November 30, 2018 at 23:47
Yes, but that's not what's being discussed. It's not about the term 'number', but the term 'two', in the example discussed: §29: "Perhaps someone will...
November 29, 2018 at 06:33
In the context of the sections we're talking about, the point to be made is something like: in order to point out red, we need to understand that it i...
November 29, 2018 at 05:41
Just to circle back to this: What you call 'categories' here, and what Witty variously refers to as the 'place' that is 'prepared' for a word prior to...
November 28, 2018 at 17:50
A remark about the 'difficulty' of the PI: one should be careful about taking a priest's approach to the book, as if reading it requires some series o...
November 28, 2018 at 10:50
Perhaps you ought to simply participate and contribute rather than proliferating reading groups and readings which you don't commit yourself to.
November 27, 2018 at 03:19
Neither. I interpret it as a cup of water, and everyone knows what that is. Most children understand this, long before they are introduced to either m...
November 27, 2018 at 02:32
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I'd suggest that the first thing to understand is that senses work upon differences - gradations, distinctions, and invariants under movement - in an ...
November 26, 2018 at 18:17
Oh dear. Yeah, not worth continuing when this is the level of response :( Please learn some basic grammar terms before continuing :smile:
November 26, 2018 at 17:28
One last way to put it: ostension is indexical - acquiring definite meaning from a particular space and time - and all indexicals by definition are ge...
November 26, 2018 at 17:11
It's been explained though. It's unfortunate you don't understand I guess.
November 26, 2018 at 17:02
I was using the word in the same manner as Witty speaks of places and kinds. Consider it a synonym, if you like. Your question is still confusing to m...
November 26, 2018 at 16:47
I don't know what you're talking about - 'Generality and its complement'?
November 26, 2018 at 16:26
I quite obviously mean what Wittgenstein does when he speaks of types, places, and roles in language and the like. I thought that was quite clear give...
November 26, 2018 at 16:11
A role is always general. That's... just what it means to be or to 'occupy' a role. A name plays the role... of a name, with a distinctive grammar sha...
November 26, 2018 at 15:58
§30: "An ostensive definition explains the use - the meaning - of a word if the role the word is supposed to play in the language is already clear".
November 26, 2018 at 15:46
Yep. But the pointing out of a proper name is still to employ that proper name in a role: "that is X" grammar implied here]; I speak of and about a na...
November 26, 2018 at 15:30
Indeed it isn't. Which is why names are not demonstratives.
November 26, 2018 at 15:16
The phrase "correctly identifying" has not so far been used by either me or the passages we're up to in the PI, so I'm not sure what you're responding...
November 26, 2018 at 14:38
So tokens, rather than kinds, in your opinion? Or rather, singular, non-general(izable) things?
November 26, 2018 at 13:01
Mary Tiles - The Philosophy of Set Theory: An Historical Introduction to Cantor's Paradise Albert Lautman - Mathematics, Ideas and the Physical Real G...
November 26, 2018 at 11:05
The differential nature of ostension leads to this question: §30: "One has already to know (or be able to do) something before one can ask what someth...
November 26, 2018 at 10:25
I've read the Intro to Metaphysics and at no point does Heidi mention, let alone discuss, the number zero.
November 26, 2018 at 09:00
Both. Water is composed of molecules, each of which are molecules of water. This isn't so much a question of philosophy or chemistry than an ambiguity...
November 26, 2018 at 04:53
Ugh, the question of 'weather it is possible or not to learn language only through ostension' is a pseudo-debate and should be dropped as having to do...
November 26, 2018 at 02:09
Citation pls.
November 26, 2018 at 01:15
This discussion was merged into What can we be certain of? Not even our thoughts? Causing me anxiety.
November 25, 2018 at 16:31
Yep. Names are rigid designators. It makes no sense to say names 'have' rigid designators.
November 24, 2018 at 05:10
Anyway, with respect to ostension, the remarks so far in the PI have had nothing to do with if "we can learn language solely through ostension" or not...
November 24, 2018 at 05:08
Yeah, considering that rules are not yet discussed at this early stage, one is hard pressed to know what MU thinks he is talking about.
November 24, 2018 at 04:05
This is a dumb criticism. When I say "wow he looks like a leather handbag from all that sun", the metaphor - or simile, in this case - only extends to...
November 22, 2018 at 10:46
Some remarks on §1: (1) "In this picture of language we find the roots of the following idea: Every word has a meaning. This meaning is correlated wit...
November 22, 2018 at 02:23
I don't think you'll get much out of this reading group by simply hewing to this position and then measuring everything in the PI against it. The poin...
November 21, 2018 at 22:35
But why thought? In saying 'Slab!', it is not 'thought' at stake but actions. I want that person over there to hand me that slab next to him. The soun...
November 21, 2018 at 05:51
I guess if I were to summarize the critique it is that Heidegger doesn't pay enough attention to the impossible: that every possibility is equally and...
November 20, 2018 at 23:08
Love ya work Tiff! :D
November 20, 2018 at 22:35
If you're working off the PDF, I think that's an OCR error. It's just 'Slab!', with an exclamation mark in my copy of the book. With respect to §19 as...
November 20, 2018 at 15:10