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Says someone who reckons it's important if Witty correctly represented Augustine? And I'm accused of being too academic? Cute.

Eh, who cares whether Witty got Augustine right, or if it really does represent some commonly held view. Augustine is a foil to develop a point, and c...

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It was discussed when we went over §29, and the boxed note after §35, where the term was employed. In any case, I've made clear my use of the term in ...

But Witty has talked about grammar. We've talked about grammar.

Discuss away. See what comes of it.

It's a reading group dude. We read the PI as we go. It's pretty simple.

At this point, Witty has nowhere linked grammar with rules (not saying there aren't any, but you're preempting, so your objection doesn't make sense)....

§49 I'm skipping §48 because it's fairly self-explanatory , but also because the later sections that return to it actually hold the more interesting d...

§47 (Exegesis) Following §46, in which the question of the simple and the complex was bound up with questions of existence in Socrates, §47 will begin...

§46 So, like I said, §46 marks a change in the argumentative strategy of the PI, with Witty no longer looking at types of uses of words, but rather, m...

Orienting Remarks for §46 Onwards §46 marks yet another turn in the argument of the PI, and probably the most radical so far. Up to now, it can be sai...

I think that'd be cool :)

Also, if I'm right that the consideration of kinds of (uses of) words has dominated the discussion in the PI so far, it's even possible to broadly ide...

Hah, well, considering I read the PI as a Critique of Pure Language, I'm not exactly concealing my 'Kantian aggression' here. But it's important not t...

It's funny. People are saying things like - how can one possibly imagine a world in which Nixon does not have such and such and did not do such and su...

Hmm, I can't say I really recognize this in Witty - how language structures meaning (which is in turn structured by our forms-of-life), yes, but exper...

As in, that's the view you see Witty holding?

General remark: For me personally, probably the most powerful import of the PI is its provision of a critical apparatus from which one can evaluate mi...

§37-§38 The discussion from §37 marks a new line in the progression of argument so far. Having, in §36, begun to broach the issue of being mislead by ...

This was the argument that cinched the whole book for me.

I was thinking more Savage Garden with a twist but sure!

As if: "I love you to the moon and back" raises astro-engineering problems.

Yes, Banno rightly cottons on to the statement as a performance, and dispenses, rightly, with the trash about the limits of language and paradoxes and...

As an example of how not to conduct philosophy, perhaps.

I wouldn't.

Only the naive and the philosophical think that 'I love you more than words can say' expresses a statement about the relationship between words and on...

It doesn't. It just raises stupid non-problems mistaken for philosophical ones.

From a modding perspective, one possible consideration is whether a thread is 'intra-religious' or has wider bearing on topics outside that one partic...

The lectures are alot less tightly constructed than his monographs, in that you can really see that they're geared towards students in his class study...

Tsk tsk. All these people taking the statement at a constative, rather than performative level.

Also, I just noticed you mentioned it in the OP but Deleuze's lectures (on Kant, Spinoza, and Leibniz in particular) I think would make for a fantasti...

Not that I've compared them all, but I love Kemp Smith's translation, which, while supposedly less strictly faithful to the letter of the CPR, has a l...

'fraid not.

That's not a copy of the CPR. That's a collection of abridged readings from different works of Kant. The CPR alone is about 800 or so pages long (from...

No, I literally mean not a single aspect of scientific practice, nor any theory that would qualify as scientific, would change or have to be amended. ...

Science is happily indifferent to theistic claims; were theology to disappear off the face of the earth tomorrow night, nothing about science would ch...

Before moving on to and past §37 - which begins a new line of argument dealing with names - do people have questions or interpretive issues they want ...

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§36 §36 is a bit confusing on first blush, but it's simply recapitulating what I've called the differential nature of ostension: one bodily action can...

:grin: It guess it was more an association that came to my mind while reading §34. At the very least I think there are parallels that would be interre...

If we go with Riemann, I wonder if it might also be interesting to read it alongside Kant's essay on negative magnitudes ('Attempt to Introduce the Co...

Riemann would be cool! If Merleau-Ponty, I'd love to read The Structure of Behaviour (which I haven't yet), or else de Vries or O'Shea on Sellars (may...

Historical note: the above contains the seed of the idea - elaborated subsequently by Wilfrid Sellars - regarding the critique of the 'myth of the giv...

It's much easier when there's a common point of reference to work between everyone with :) §34 In §34, Witty continues to pose an objection to himself...

No, read carefully. Witty does not describe sentences as language-games. Here is the start of §23: §23: "But how many kinds of sentence are there? Say...

My only comment here would be that I would not talk of 'sentences'. Witty does not - at least in the context of defining language-games - and there's ...

Supplementary comment: One way to appreciate what's going on at a more global scale is that Wittgenstein is dealing with a twist on the classic questi...

§33 §33 marks a new turn in the argumentation of the PI. From here till roughly §36, Witty will begin to discuss the role of 'experiences' in the unde...

It's true that §7 does provide a minimal definition of a language game - §7 "I shall also call the whole, consisting of language and the activities in...