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Jamal October 22, 2015 at 09:29 69300 views 3457 comments
Getting back into Proust's In Search of Lost Time. I find it relaxing, like watching snooker at the Crucible on TV on a Saturday afternoon. But it's better than snooker:

[quote=Proust]But then, even in the most insignificant details of our daily life, none of us can be said to constitute a material whole, which is identical for everyone, and need only be turned up like a page in an account-book or the record of a will; our social personality is created by the thoughts of other people. Even the simple act which we describe as "seeing some one we know" is, to some extent, an intellectual process. We pack the physical outline of the creature we see with all the ideas we have already formed about him, and in the complete picture of him which we compose in our minds those ideas have certainly the principal place. In the end they come to fill out so completely the curve of his cheeks, to follow so exactly the line of his nose, they blend so harmoniously in the sound of his voice that these seem to be no more than a transparent envelope, so that each time we see the face or hear the voice it is our own ideas of him which we recognise and to which we listen.[/quote]

Comments (3457)

Benkei October 22, 2015 at 09:35 #240
Currently reading: The Blade of Tyshalle, book 2 of the Acts of Caine quadrology.

I stopped reading philosophy or anything serious since I already read contracts or legislation at least 8 hours a day. I go bonkers without an escape into Scifi or Fantasy.

Look forward to philosophically useless updates by me in this thread! :B
Jamal October 22, 2015 at 10:04 #246
Sentient October 22, 2015 at 13:20 #272
Derrida's 'The Parergon' in which he excellently deconstructs Kant (one my absolute least favorite philosophers).
Agustino October 27, 2015 at 00:08 #1297
De Rerum Natura - Lucretius (re-reading this, greatly enjoying it!)
shmik October 27, 2015 at 00:22 #1301
Nietzsche Naturalism and Interpretation - Christoph Cox.
I'm having some difficulties understanding Deleuze's Nietzsche and Philosophy and I happened across this book while searching for an explanation of the way Nietzsche uses being and becoming.
Extremely clear and nicely argued.
The Great Whatever October 27, 2015 at 04:59 #1371
An Investigation of the Laws of Thought, on which are Founded the Mathematical Theories of Logic - George Boole
S October 29, 2015 at 21:53 #1752
I think I'll go back to Kant's 'Prolegomena' again. It has been a long time since I last delved into it. And maybe I'll start reading Russell's 'The Problems of Philosophy' too, at some point.

There are still some of the 'great philosophers' of which I know so very little, but I'm still focused on the one's that I know a bit more about.
Streetlight November 02, 2015 at 22:31 #2069
Erin Manning - Relationscapes: Movement, Art, Philosophy
Erin Manning - Always More Than One: Individuation's Dance
Ciceronianus November 02, 2015 at 23:45 #2077
I'm slowly reading the following:
Ad Infinitum: A Biography of Latin--Ostler
Studies in Ancient Society--Finley, Ed.
The Life and Riotous Times of H.L. Mencken--Manchester
The Wall: Rome's Greatest Frontier--Moffat
Spinoza and the Stoics: Power, Politics and the Passions--DeBrabander
_db November 11, 2015 at 03:00 #2901
I'm ordering Hume's An Inquiry Concerning Human Understanding.
Phil November 11, 2015 at 05:11 #2903
Capital in the 21st Century- Pikkety
BC November 11, 2015 at 05:17 #2904
Terry Jones, Barbarians (an alternative history) - so far, B+ / A-
Harlan Ellison, Deathbird Stories - so far, A
Robert Paxton, The Anatomy of Fascism - so far A-
Christian Wolmar, The Great Railroad Revolution (finished: B+) about American Railroads, from the beginning to 2000.
Peter Gay, Modernism: The Lure of Heresy - so far, B+ / A-
Victor Navasky, Naming Names - so far, C- for boring; put it down.
Gerard Colby, The DuPont Dynasty: Behind the Nylon Curtain - so far B+ (page by page I am enraged)
Streetlight November 16, 2015 at 05:01 #3384
Francois Zourabichvili - Deleuze: A Philosophy of the Event & The Vocabulary of Deleuze
The Great Whatever November 16, 2015 at 05:14 #3387
Reply to darthbarracuda It's really great. When you're hankering for the deep shit, go back to the Treatise, and then if you want to go deeper go back to Berkeley's Principles.
_db November 16, 2015 at 07:29 #3392
Reply to The Great Whatever I'm excited to start reading it. I ordered a used copy of it and it is arriving some time this week, just in time for the Thanksgiving holiday.
shmik November 22, 2015 at 11:41 #3854
Decided to give Difference and Repetition a go as a summer project. Not sure how long I'll stick with it. Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated.
Streetlight November 22, 2015 at 13:00 #3861
Have you done any secondary reading on it? It's a very, very, very hard book.

Regardless, preliminary advice would be this: start with chapter 3 on the Image of Thought.
shmik November 22, 2015 at 13:58 #3864
Reply to StreetlightX Damn I was hoping it would only be a hard book. I haven't started yet, for now I'm looking for ways to approach it. I'm part way through Nietzsche and Philosophy which to be honest has not been a walk in the park. Also I've grabbed Gilles Deleuze's Difference and Repetition: A Critical Introduction and Guide - James Williams, from the library and plan to read it before hand.

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Streetlight November 22, 2015 at 16:08 #3874
JW's reader's guide is pretty good, it's a very nice companion to have on you while making your way through the book. Otherwise, I dunno - I've been dipping into D&R for years now and every time I think I 'get it', something else reveals itself to me. If you can make it past the discussion on the 'blockage' of concepts in the introduction (warning: requires a basic grasp of Leibniz and Aristotle), you'll be doing OK.
shmik November 22, 2015 at 23:56 #3949
Thanks for the advice, it's unfortunate that I'm attracted to books which can be difficult. I don't really want to spend 3 months bashing my head against it and going nowhere. For yourself did you find it worth the effort?
S November 23, 2015 at 00:11 #3953
I read 'Seven Brief Lessons in Physics' by Carlo Rovelli. Only 50 pages. Does exactly what it says on the tin. Interesting stuff. Didn't expect to see Heidegger, Kant, and possibly a few other philosophers - the names of whom I don't recall - be mentioned.

I'm reading 'The Spanish Civil War: Reaction, Revolution & Revenge' by Paul Preston.

Both available for a reasonable price on the Play Books app on my mobile. I like my relatively new mobile. It can do nifty stuff my old one couldn't.

Streetlight November 23, 2015 at 02:28 #3965
Reply to shmik A hundred times yes! D&R functions for me as a sourcebook, something to continually go back to and discover new things. It's a guide to thinking, hand-manual of intellectual exploration. It teaches you how to think, rather than what to think, and going back to it - or Deleuze in general - always functions as a refresher to dislodge congealed manners of approaching things.
shmik November 23, 2015 at 14:10 #4000
Sounds great, looking forward to it.
_db November 27, 2015 at 05:07 #4294
Streetlight December 10, 2015 at 22:06 #5201
Carrie Noland - Agency and Embodiment: Performing Gestures/Producing Culture
Gilles Deleuze - Pure Immanence: Essays on A Life
Streetlight December 21, 2015 at 00:39 #5773
Tom Sparrow - Plastic Bodies: Rebuilding Sensation After Phenomenology
Michael December 21, 2015 at 18:51 #5796
Death Note.

Last thing I read was The Sandman. Seems like I can only read picture books these days.
Streetlight December 29, 2015 at 14:27 #6364
Just finished reading what'll probably be my last book of 2015, so here's the years list :D :

Agamben or books on Agamben:

Giorgio Agamben - Homo Sacer
Giorgio Agamben - State of Exception
Giorgio Agamben - The Kingdom and the Glory
Giorgio Agamben - The Sacrament of Language
Giorgio Agamben - The Signature of All Things
Giorgio Agmaben - Stanzas
Giorgio Agmaben - Pilate and Jesus
Giorgio Agamben - The Church and the Kingdom
Giorgio Agamben - The Highest Poverty
Giorgio Agamben - Opus Dei
Giorgio Agamben - Stasis
William Watkin - Agamben and Indifference
Kevin Attell - Giorgio Agamben

On Francois Laruelle:

Katerina Kolozova - The Cut of the Real
Alexander Galloway - Laurelle
John Mullarkey and Anthony Paul Smith (eds.) - Laruelle and Non-Philosophy
John Mullarkey - Post-Continental Philosophy

Phenomenology, Movement, Sensation, and the Body:

Alphonso Lingis - Foreign Bodies
Carrie Noland - Agency and Embodiment
Renaud Barbaras - Desire and Distance
Michel Henry - Material Phenomenology
Maxine Sheets-Johnston - The Primacy of Movement
David Morris - The Sense of Space
Tom Sparrow - Plastic Bodies

On Merleau-Ponty:

Renaud Barbaras - The Being of the Phenomenon
Jessica Wiskus - The Rhythm of Thought
Veronique Foti - Tracing Expression in Merleau-Ponty

On Deleuze and related themes:

Gilles Deleuze - Pure Immanence
Francois Zourabichvili - Deleuze
Erin Manning - Relationscapes
Erin Manning - Always More than One
Pascal Chabot - The Philosophy of Simondon

Politics and Ethics of Subjectivity:

Adriana Cavarero - Relating Narratives
Hannah Arendt - The Human Condition
Judith Butler - Giving an Account of Oneself
Denise Riley - The Words of Selves
Denise Riley - Impersonal Passion
Mari Ruti - The Singularity of Being
Alphonso Lingis - The First Person Singular

Other:

Martin Hagglund - Dying for Time
Dennis King Keenan - The Question of Sacrifice
Peter Gratton - The State of Sovereignty
Eugene Thacker - In The Dust of This Planet
Eugene Thacker - Starry Speculative Corpse
Vicki Kirby - Telling Flesh

-

Currently Reading: Brian Massiumi - Parables for the Virtual: Movement, Affect, Sensation

47 books, 14 by women (better than last year, but room for improvement), and lots learned.

Also, I managed to do a write up on almost everything here but Lingis's Foreign Bodies.

Goals for next year: more science, and more politics.

Happy New Year all :)
WhiskeyWhiskers December 30, 2015 at 19:39 #6499
Reply to StreetlightX SLX, the link you provided just points to the ones own product review page, as opposed to your specifically. Yours is here. Good effort though, I'd like to be able to do the same!
Janus December 30, 2015 at 22:09 #6506
Reply to StreetlightX

Impressive effort SX! I would love to be able to read that much! How do you find the time for such voluminous reading? It makes me think you may be a professional academic, or one of those lucky ones with independent means, but perhaps you are just suitably obsessed ;) ...

Happy New Year to you and all 8-).
_db January 03, 2016 at 05:36 #6729
The Ego Tunnel by Thomas Metzinger. Great blend of philosophy and empirical science.
Streetlight January 18, 2016 at 12:10 #7698
Jeffrey Bell - The Problem of Difference: Phenomenology and Poststructuralism
Jeffrey Bell - Philosophy at the Edge of Chaos: Gilles Deleuze and the Philosophy of Difference

@John Thanks! Its just a matter of making time - it can be done, it you love it enough :) (sorry for the late reply!).
Janus January 18, 2016 at 23:33 #7717
Reply to StreetlightX

Hey, no probs :) happy reading!
_db January 25, 2016 at 03:00 #7831
The Cambridge Handbook of Cognitive Science
Deleteduserrc January 25, 2016 at 03:25 #7832
Peter Sloterdijk - [I] Globes (Spheres vol. 2)[/I]. The spheres trilogy is continuing to blow me away. Sloterdijk is rapidly becoming one of my top 3 favorite thinkers. Also listening to Dennet's [I] Consciousness Explained [/I] during my morning commute just bc I was curious to see if it was as bad as I'd heard (it is).
Pierre-Normand January 25, 2016 at 04:00 #7834
Quoting csalisbury
Sloterdijk is rapidly becoming one of my top 3 favorite thinkers.


Who are the other two? And who is being threatened with being bumped in fourth place?

Regarding Dennett, I agree that Consciousness Explained is very bad in most of its positive explanatory aspirations. Peter Hacker eviscerates him an appendix of Philosophical Foundations of Neuroscience. But it also contains quite a few good insights. Among my favorite "intuition pumps" from him is his discussion of the distinction (or rather pseudo-distinction) between the Orwellian and Stalinesque models of consciousness content elaboration. Another gem from Dennett is his critique of Harris' Free Will.

Dennett was Gilbert Ryle's student at Oxford. There are several mentor/pupil pairs in the history of 20th century analytic philosophy such that, reading works from the pupil, I am left to wonder how it is possible for the core insights from his/her mentor to have been watered down or misconstrued so much. Those are the pairs that puzzle me most:

Gilbert Ryle -- Daniel Dennett
John Austin -- John Searle
Wilfrid Sellars -- Paul Churchand
Peter Strawson -- Galen Strawson (father/son, in this case)
Hilary Putnam -- Jerry Fodor
Streetlight February 05, 2016 at 10:48 #8169
Next three...

John Protevi - Political Physics: Political Physics: Deleuze, Derrida and the Body Politic
Helen Palmer - Deleuze and Futurism: A Manifesto for Nonsense
Donald Landes - Merleau-Ponty and the Paradoxes of Expression
Hanover February 05, 2016 at 20:19 #8173
Quoting Pierre-Normand
Regarding Dennett, I agree that Consciousness Explained is very bad in most of its positive explanatory aspirations.


There seemed to be such hype surrounding Dennett when I read that book that I felt I must not understand it and that I was missing something. I felt vindicated when I later discovered that many felt it as unpersuasive as I did.
Deleteduserrc February 06, 2016 at 04:02 #8179
@StreetlightX the closest thing I ever had to a professor-mentor once told me (apropos of Deleuze & Joyce) that you devour the literature because you love it but, after a certain point, keeping up with the sheer volume of literature turns it into somethong you hate (pity my one "mentor" was so depressed.) I haven't read enough secondary literature to weigh his world-weary claim on the basis of personal experience, so I'm curious: has there come a point where the fresh vibrant vital insights come to seem sclerotic and tired?
The Great Whatever February 06, 2016 at 05:07 #8180
Reply to csalisbury That has been my experience. I tend to believe now that reading large amounts of secondary literature is actually positively harmful not only to your enjoyment, but to your understanding as well.
Streetlight February 06, 2016 at 05:29 #8181
@csalisbury Heh, not really, not at this point anyway, because I still feel like I'm learning things that I hadn't known before, and that I'm still pursuing questions whose horizons are still strewn wide. I'm still hungry, basically. It helps that I read thematically too: I take up a theme, read four or five things on it, and move on to another theme, which is usually related anyway. That's why I'm happy to do so much secondary reading: my interest is in problems and their implications, and much of the reading I do is about extending insights into other fields, finding cross-fertilizations with other thinkers, ideas, and so on. I like finding resonances, building bridges, and building 'webs', as it were. I think my reading reflects that.
WhiskeyWhiskers February 07, 2016 at 13:09 #8199
Just finished Man's Search For Meaning by Viktor Frankl
Baden February 15, 2016 at 16:10 #8705
War Is a Force that Gives Us Meaning - Chris Hedges.
Hanover February 16, 2016 at 20:52 #8743
The Very Hungry Caterpillar. @Michael recommended it, and although very thick in parts (because the pages were made of sturdy cardboard), I really enjoyed it.
BC February 18, 2016 at 02:47 #8875
Just finished a book on Charlemagne.
BC February 18, 2016 at 02:48 #8876
Quoting Hanover
The Very Hungry Caterpillar. Michael recommended it, and although very thick in parts (because the pages were made of sturdy cardboard), I really enjoyed it.


If you liked The Very Hungry Caterpillar you'll love it's sequel, The Very Busy Bee.
ssu February 18, 2016 at 22:55 #8949
Read Jegor Gaidar's "Collapse of an Empire: Lessons for Modern Russia".

Bought it today and finished it today. Very good read. Clear story on how actually the Soviet Union went down. What is good that it comes from somebody who did see the collapse of the Soviet Union from halls of power in Kremlin, yet isn't apologetic and compares the events to other instances when autocratic rules have crumbled.

One interesting issue (among many)

- Just how dangerous the collapse of the Soviet Union was. The threat of Civil war like in Yugoslavia was real. According to Gaidar, just how dangerous this path would be was something that the leaders of the new states understood when four states had nuclear weapons. The ICBMs might be controlled by Moscow, but the tactical nukes and bomber dropped nuclear bombs/missiles could be used by those who had them. Let's remember that Ukraine and Kazakhstan had far more nuclear weapons than countries like the UK, France or Israel. This made all the new leaders to embrace a peaceful solution. Hence boundary disputes weren't put on the table. (And there was already the example of Nagorno-Karabach, the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaidzan). In fact, now we can see that once this threat was erased (by Ukraine and Kazakhstan giving up their nukes), indeed war has broken out. And Putin can talk that the state of Kazakhstan is "artificial". Gaidar, who died in 2009, naturally didn't see this.
Shevek February 21, 2016 at 17:54 #8989
The Dialogic Imagination - Mikhail Bakhtin

The Ecology of Freedom - Murray Bookchin

Libra - Don DeLillo

I have Transcritique: On Kant and Marx by Kojin Karatani and Phenomenology and Dialectical Materialism by Tran Duc Thao on my immediate list but I'm trying to convince myself to not keep starting books when I'm in the middle of others (already not working as you can see).
Thorongil February 29, 2016 at 20:31 #9076
Reply to The Great Whatever I completely agree. Reading secondary literature really ought to be considered a grave offense, as well as the writing of it. It's the worst prose imaginable and bores me to tears. It could just be because I'm a grad student and forced to read copious amounts of this tripe, but I have no intention of purchasing very many secondary sources whenever I have enough money to complete my book collection. It will be 95% primary sources.
_db February 29, 2016 at 21:01 #9079
Reply to Thorongil I get most of my initial information from textbooks and then get the primary literature if I feel the need to. In all honesty all this talk of primary literature being better than the other sources of information just sounds snobbish. I mean if I can get a perfectly good introduction to the thought of some guy instead of having to drudge through countless books then I'll take the former route.
Thorongil February 29, 2016 at 22:13 #9082
Quoting darthbarracuda
. I mean if I can get a perfectly good introduction to the thought of some guy instead of having to drudge through countless books then I'll take the former route.


You can't ever know if you're getting a "perfectly good introduction" to the thought of some guy unless you actually read that guy for yourself. I'd rather think for myself and make up my own mind than have someone else do it for me in tortured "academese."

I don't understand the claim of snobbery. Academics, the writers of all this glut of secondary literature, are among the most snobbish people you could ever meet.
Pierre-Normand February 29, 2016 at 22:33 #9083
Quoting Thorongil
You can't ever know if you're getting a "perfectly good introduction" to the thought of some guy unless you actually read that guy for yourself. I'd rather think for myself and make up my own mind than have someone else do it for me in tortured "academese."


I don't understand this debate at all. It seems obvious to me that both primary and secondary literature are essential. Indeed, the only thing that truly demarcates "primary literature", so called, from secondary literature, is that it mainly consists in works that have become classics, for better or worse. Almost all primary literature has begun as secondary literature. Few philosophers have endeavored to reinvent the wheel or have abstained from commentating on contemporaries or predecessors. Hence, while Sturgeon's law applies to so called secondary literature, it doesn't apply to primary literature since in that case most of the crap already has been sifted out. If, however, one is able to be selective in one's selection of secondary literature sources, then this criterion becomes irrelevant. Aristotle makes up part of the secondary literature on Plato, and likewise for Kant and Hume, Heidegger and Husserl, Wittgenstein and Frege, etc.

On edit: I am currently reading Sebastian Rödl's Categories of the Temporal: An Inquiry into the Forms of the Finite Intellect for the third time. Is it secondary literature on Kant, or is it an original work? It is both. The distinction is pointless. On account of its specific topic, if it weren't informed by Kant (and by Aristotle), then it would be misinformed. If it weren't original then it would be redundant and pointless -- but it is neither.
_db February 29, 2016 at 22:35 #9084
Reply to Thorongil You can read reviews online before purchasing a textbook. Sometimes the textbooks I buy have primary sources in them as well. But honestly what is it about primary sources that make them always better than a text covering the same thing? Perhaps you get the personalized feel, but at the same rate you also often lose the objectivity as you're reading something by one person.

In then end all of this just seems purely subjective. You like primary sources, great. I like secondary textbooks more as an introduction to ideas. As a matter of fact I usually don't like reading primary sources.
_db March 01, 2016 at 02:59 #9091
Reply to Thorongil This is partially why I don't usually enjoy reading continental philosophy, because it relies too heavily upon specific interpretations and primary sources. In my view, if you can't summarize a position into a textbook, if you can't convey your ideas without falling back into obscurantism or a kind of "sophisticated" philosophy, then it's probably bullshit or at least needs refinement. Analytic philosophy, in this particular area, is superior because it is much easier to translate philosophy without losing any of the meaning.
Hanover March 03, 2016 at 18:19 #9149
Quoting darthbarracuda
In my view, if you can't summarize a position into a textbook, if you can't convey your ideas without falling back into obscurantism or a kind of "sophisticated" philosophy, then it's probably bullshit or at least needs refinement.


Amen.
Hanover March 03, 2016 at 18:21 #9150
Quoting The Great Whatever
That has been my experience. I tend to believe now that reading large amounts of secondary literature is actually positively harmful not only to your enjoyment, but to your understanding as well.


And that creates the problem of your not being able to talk about what you've read because no one should be interested in your views as a secondary source.
The Great Whatever March 03, 2016 at 18:51 #9151
Reply to Hanover I'm not a secondary source; I give my own opinions.
Pierre-Normand March 04, 2016 at 02:47 #9193
Quoting The Great Whatever
I'm not a secondary source; I give my own opinions.


I sense a false dichotomy here: either one thinks for oneself or one slavishly attempts to interpret original thinkers without doubting anything that they said (rather in the the way Justice Scalia meant to interpret the U.S. Constitution.) Why it is not possible for a piece of secondary literature to express what its author meant as, in part, explanation/appropriation of the text commented upon and, in part, criticism and elaboration on it? Much of the secondary literature traditions in philosophy take the form of protracted dialogues, it seem to me. The only amount of reverence to the original text that is required is the amount necessary not to get it completely wrong (and that's already a lot, hence the need for exegesis).
The Great Whatever March 04, 2016 at 04:37 #9199
Quoting Pierre-Normand
Why it is not possible for a piece of secondary literature to express what its author meant as, in part, explanation/appropriation of the text commented upon and, in part, criticism and elaboration on it?


Good question but I feel it should be directed at all the bad writers of secondary literature.
S May 02, 2016 at 21:35 #11542
The Empire Project: The Rise and Fall of The British World-System, 1830 - 1970 by John Darwin.
_db May 10, 2016 at 02:00 #11688
The Oxford Handbook of Philosophy of Mind. Got this baby for a bargain. Original price was $150, I got it for $40. Best book on philosophy of mind I've ever read.
S May 13, 2016 at 21:27 #11719
Marx's 'Das Kapital' For Beginners by Michael Wayne.
Agustino May 16, 2016 at 14:42 #11759
Philosophical Melancholy and Delirium: Hume's Pathology of Philosophy - Donald Livingston

Very powerful book, take a look people!
WhiskeyWhiskers May 16, 2016 at 16:24 #11768
How to be a conservative - Roger Scruton

A book that would have been better titled, What is a conservative? Not nearly as full of 'oughtification' as the title suggests, it is a very sincere, humble, and honourable explanation of where conservative principles come from. Roger Scruton builds conservatism from the ground up by starting out of with simple facts of human nature and the human condition, and somehow, remarkably, ends with a well-rounded and coherent view of the proper function of government and the nature of civil society. He does this by admitting that there is in fact a degree of truth in each of the rivals of conservatism (titling each chapter, 'The Truth In' Nationalism, Socialism, Capitalism, Liberalism, Multiculturalism, Environmentalism, and Internationalism), then drawing these truths out and employing them as principles of the conservative philosophy itself. But in doing this he also at the same time sets out to expose the falsehoods of each of them by showing the limits of their truth, how in their fullest forms they go too far thereby losing their truth along the way and hence end up creating an unjust society and government (for example, the answer to the problems of socialism is not 'more socialism'). He argues that we must show restraint and be 'conservative' (see what I did there?) when employing each of the political tendencies of human nature, lest we lose each truth and replace it with it's falsehood.
Streetlight August 03, 2016 at 13:46 #15066
Anthony WIlden - System and Structure: Essays in Communication and Exchange
Emanuele Coccia - Sensible Life: A Micro-Ontology of the Image
anonymous66 August 03, 2016 at 14:03 #15069
Quoting Hanover
There seemed to be such hype surrounding Dennett when I read that book that I felt I must not understand it and that I was missing something. I felt vindicated when I later discovered that many felt it as unpersuasive as I did.

I get the sense that Dennett is more of a New Atheist evangelist/apologist than a legitimate philosopher.

I do like his thoughts on free-will. But, I think Alfred Mele is better.
anonymous66 August 03, 2016 at 14:22 #15070
I just finished Pierre Hadot's Philosophy as a Way of Life, and will soon start his book The Inner Citadel.

I'm also reading:
Ten Philosophical Mistakes- Adler
Montaigne's Essays
Selected readings by Cicero
Working and Thinking on the Waterfront: A Journal, June 1958 to May 1959 - Eric Hoffer

I've been reading bits and pieces of these books over the last few months...- so, I'm not sure if I'd call it "close reading".
Fear and Trembling - Kierkegaard
A History of Western Philosophy - Russell
Reason and Persuasion: Three Dialogues by Plato - John Holbo
The True Believer - Eric Hoffer
The Righteous Mind - Haidt

Streetlight August 08, 2016 at 12:01 #15496
Arkady Plotnitsky - In The Shadow of Hegel: Complementarity, History, and the Unconscious
Wayfarer August 10, 2016 at 09:10 #15638
The Unintended Reformation: How a Religious Revolution Secularized Society
by Brad S. Gregory https://amzn.com/0674088050
shmik August 12, 2016 at 05:45 #15786
I never thought I'd say this again, I've been making my way through the CPR. I've encountered too many Kant and Hegel references recently that I feel I need to read Hegel (never wanted to) and refresh Kant before doing that.

It's extremely different going through it the second time (first was about 5 years ago and I misinterpreted it almost completely). The biggest difference is knowing the terminology, Kant himself never gives good or even any explanation for a lot of the terms he uses.

I disagree with the view that Kant is a bad writer. When you know the terms a lot of the CPR flows quite well. So far it's actually been very enjoyable much more than the secondary literature on Nietzsche and Deleuze that I've been reading lately.

Bernstein lectures on Kant have been nice entertainment whilst driving.

S August 15, 2016 at 01:27 #16055
[I]The Ragged Trousered Philanthropists[/I] by Robert Tressell.
Streetlight August 23, 2016 at 17:32 #17501
Karen Barad - Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning (rereading)
Vicki Kirby - Quantum Anthropologies: Life at Large
bert1 August 23, 2016 at 19:35 #17507
Loud Hands, a collection of bits and pieces by autistic self-advocates, including the famous one by Jim Sinclair Don't Mourn for Us
Hoo August 26, 2016 at 02:50 #17987
I got Bukowski's Women off the shelf. It's still great.
The Great Whatever August 31, 2016 at 05:27 #18709
Language, Truth & Logic - A. J. Ayer
Syntactic Structures - Noam Chomsky
Word and Object - W. V. O. Quine
Aspects of the Theory of Syntax - Noam Chomsky
The Atoms of Language - Mark Baker
Categorial Grammar: Logical Syntax, Semantics, and Processing - Glyn Morrill
Streetlight August 31, 2016 at 14:51 #18789
Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari - What Is Philosophy?
Jeffrey A. Bell - Deleuze and Guattari's What is Philosophy?: A Critical Introduction and Guide
Eric Alliez - The Signature of the World: What is Deleuze and Guattari's Philosophy?

Prep for a course I'm doing on WIP.
Michael August 31, 2016 at 15:43 #18794
[s]I'm[/s] You're currently reading this.
Baden August 31, 2016 at 15:52 #18800
Reply to Michael I actually clicked on that. Damn you. ;)
Michael August 31, 2016 at 16:01 #18802
Reply to Baden Edited for accuracy.
andrewk August 31, 2016 at 22:19 #18835
Aaarrrgh. Now the site will get stuck in an infinite regress, crash, get buggy and end up an electronic wasteland like The Other Place.
Michael September 01, 2016 at 11:34 #18929
Reply to andrewk Now I want to change my name over there to Mad Max.
S September 11, 2016 at 22:00 #20718
British Labour Leaders edited by Charles Clarke & Toby James.

I keep reading a bit from one book and then jump to the next. Anyone else do that? I should stick to one and finish it.
Hoo September 11, 2016 at 23:30 #20736
I just bought a old copy of The Writings of Saint Paul. I'm not a believer, but I like the metaphysical Christ as a resonant symbol. The incarnation myth is profound.
[quote=Paul]
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
[/quote]
So there's a creative misreading of Paul as presenting a third option, between (as symbols) the Jews and the Greeks.
There's also some anarchism, etc. in this:
[quote= Paul]
Christ is the end of the law.
[/quote]
And so on.
Agustino September 20, 2016 at 21:51 #22439
Quoting Hoo
There's also some anarchism, etc. in this:
Christ is the end of the law.
— Paul
And so on.

:D Not really no - that means Christ is the TELOS (goal, but often translated as end) of the law. Not the abnegation of it, but the fulfilment of it. Christ can never be opposed to the law.

I've just finished this wonderful article! Finally something I can agree with politically!
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/conservatism/
Hoo September 20, 2016 at 22:28 #22446
Reply to Agustino
Actually I just read about that ambiguity. I think goal and end are both appropriate for my purposes, since I see the Law in its evolving manifestations as rungs on the ladder. But the ladder is thrown away. Of course this (for me) is "creative misreading." Or rather it doesn't matter what Paul meant. As I see it this Christ idea or personality is as radical as it gets, transcending any tradition that contingently lights it up in one's mind.

I like some aspects of conservatism. But I just want to clarify again what I see as a separation between religion at its height and politics.
Agustino September 20, 2016 at 22:30 #22447
Reply to Hoo That it transcends may be so - but the notion of Freedom (what you term Christ) without Law is incoherent for me.
Hoo September 20, 2016 at 22:39 #22449
Reply to Agustino
The law of custom, imposed by force, will always be with us. And, yes, that creates the space of individual freedom. But I'm thinking something more along these lines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism
Agustino September 20, 2016 at 22:55 #22455
Quoting Hoo
But I'm thinking something more along these lines: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinomianism

That is incoherent to me. Whether they follow the law of Moses is precisely the verification for whether they are saved. Someone who no longer lives in sin, does not live by breaking the Law.
Hoo September 20, 2016 at 23:12 #22458
Reply to Agustino
It's OK if you disagree. This kind of disagreement is thousands of years old by now. Paul happened to be a Jew, but (as I understand it) he took mystery cults for the other half of his blended Christianity. The divine man who dies and is resurrected is ancient, as I understand it.

Just found this quote:
"Pre-messianically, our destinies are divided. Now to the Christian, the Jew is the incomprehensibly obdurate man who declines to see what has happened; and to the Jew, the Christian is the incomprehensibly daring man who affirms in an unredeemed world that its redemption has been accomplished. This is a gulf which no human power can bridge."
Buber
The Great Whatever October 02, 2016 at 04:45 #24410
David Lewis - Convention: A Philosophical Study

I sort of want to read all of Lewis' stuff, if only to see how one so sensible could have gone so mad.
Streetlight October 05, 2016 at 12:01 #24776
James Williams - Gilles Deleuze's Philosophy of Time: A Critical Introduction and Guide
Henry Somers-Hall - Deleuze's Difference and Repetition: An Edinburgh Philosophical Guide
Gilles Deleuze - Difference and Repetition

Building up to enter again the breach that is D&R, something I've been doing for a while now - I'll get alot more out of it this time, I hope.

Quoting The Great Whatever
I sort of want to read all of Lewis' stuff, if only to see how one so sensible could have gone so mad.


I sometimes wish I had the willpower to read stuff this that I know I will vehemently disagree with. I can't bring myself to, when there's just so much more 'constructive' (philosophy-building, rather than philosophy-'tearing down') things I feel I might be able to do.
The Great Whatever October 05, 2016 at 15:54 #24788
Reply to StreetlightX I pretty much disagree with everything, so it doesn't matter to me. I read mostly to become familiar with the tradition.
_db October 05, 2016 at 19:42 #24813
I have a love-hate relationship with Amazon. I recently binged four books off that website, all philosophy-related. The first was a book on process philosophy by Rescher, another was on meta-ethics, and the last two I got at a bargain price of $10 combined, both on artificial intelligence (the science and philosophy behind it).

I don't know why I bought these to be honest. It's not like college offers me much time to read anything anyway. At least the latter two books are somewhat related to my degree.
Thorongil October 06, 2016 at 01:43 #24856
Reply to darthbarracuda What's your degree, if you don't mind me asking?
_db October 06, 2016 at 02:02 #24858
Reply to Thorongil Currently electrical engineering, but I'm switching to computer engineering next semester. I'm also minoring in philosophy.
shmik October 06, 2016 at 03:13 #24862
Nice, my last 4 years has been: work and read philosophy during semester, cram electrical eng during exams.

Even now I want to join the reading group but can't get enough time away from verilog.

I found the engineering informed my philosophy stuff more than the other way round.
Classes on machine learning, computer vision techniques etc.
Wosret October 06, 2016 at 03:23 #24865
Reply to Sapientia


John Stuart Mill said that if he found a book effort to read, then he would also read a book he enjoyed at the same time, and go back and forth.
Thorongil October 06, 2016 at 14:06 #24911
Reply to darthbarracuda Interesting. I envy your left brain ability.
_db October 06, 2016 at 16:09 #24925
Quoting shmik
I found the engineering informed my philosophy stuff more than the other way round.
Classes on machine learning, computer vision techniques etc.


I've found that as well. Object-oriented programming in Java complemented my excursions into analytic metaphysics.
Baden October 18, 2016 at 15:28 #27528
The Sickness unto Death - Kierkegaard

Phil October 18, 2016 at 15:33 #27529
Merleau-Ponty's Philosophy of Nature Ted Toadvine
I like sushi October 18, 2016 at 15:54 #27532
Derrida, Writing and Difference

Husserl, The Crisis of European Sciences and Transcendental Phenomenology (pretty much finished first reading of this)

Foucault, Madness and Civilization
Baden October 25, 2016 at 14:04 #28573
And the weak suffer what they must? - Yanis Varoufakis

So far, so interesting.
Wayfarer October 30, 2016 at 23:43 #29455
Noticed a review that might be of interest to folks here Are we really so modern?, a review of Antony Gottlieb's “The Dream of Enlightenment” (second in a series on the history of ideas, first of which was 'The Dream of Reason')
TheWillowOfDarkness October 30, 2016 at 23:58 #29460
Reply to Wayfarer

The misreading of Spinoza makes me sad. He's and acosmist ( "God is real. The finite is an illusion- and so never God") not a pantheist ("The finite is God").
Wayfarer October 31, 2016 at 00:03 #29465
One of the facts of life that I've come to terms with, is that I will never understand Spinoza.
TheWillowOfDarkness October 31, 2016 at 00:28 #29468
Reply to Wayfarer

I'm not so sure. You are closer than you might think. Sometimes what you say about God not being a finite entity is approaching his insight. The problem is you, despite realising that God is not really a question of a miracle worker, still consider God in finite terms.

For you God is still effectively a casual force, a force or presence which enables the world, which makes the world and it meaning rather than not. In the way that matters (i.e. the presence of the meaningful world), God is still of the world. For you it is like the world of the finite forms we encountered is and illusion, but it is the world which is really God-- we become wise by recognising our existence is given by the infinite, rather than merely being finite.

Spinoza sort of speaks from the infinite point of view. In terms of God (the infinite), the finite is an illusion. The world is not real at all, meaning it is entirely separate and so not caused by the infinite (not even a transcendent one, not even in meaning) of God. Our world is only ever finite and so cannot be of God. To say our existence is given by God is a contradiction. It would be to turn God into a finite actor.

Anyway, this is probably getting too far off topic, so I should probably leave it here.
Streetlight November 24, 2016 at 08:26 #34908
Gilles Deleuze - Bergsonism
Gilles Deleuze and Claire Parnet - Dialogues II
_db November 24, 2016 at 21:09 #35020
Keeping Ourselves in the Dark by Colin Feltham

Is Nature Ever Evil?: Religion, Science and Value by Willem B. Drees

An Introduction to the Philosophy of Religion by Brian Davies

Peirce: A Guide for the Perplexed by Cornelis de Waal

and a few others
Wosret November 30, 2016 at 14:57 #36282
Kant's Perpetual Peace.
Narajuna's the tree of wisdom (until he started to get obnoxious around half way through)
And currently Pathological lying, accusations and swindling.
Mongrel November 30, 2016 at 15:03 #36284
Gay
Science
Agustino December 02, 2016 at 20:31 #36594
The Art of the Deal by Donald J. Trump >:O
Mongrel December 02, 2016 at 20:56 #36599
Reply to Agustino Do you folks have bankruptcy laws? You'll probably need that.
Agustino December 02, 2016 at 21:25 #36603
Reply to Mongrel Yes but you'll get arrested. Business is very different around here than in Western countries. It's much harder to scale up it seems, takes much longer. The law and bureaucracy isn't on your side either - it's too stuffy. The problem here in Eastern Europe (and this is across the border) isn't what to do - but rather how to do it and be within the law... Because the law isn't made well, it's a struggle. I'm working as a single person (and even I'm not sure if I'm actually on the right side of the law lol) and unless you really like the independence of working for yourself, no one would do it. It's strange that I both like my work, and I find it very stressful at one and the same time - but stressful in the way that something is stressful when you can't stop thinking about it, and your mind always goes back to it again and again. Interesting subject for a thread actually.
Mongrel December 02, 2016 at 21:31 #36605
Reply to Agustino Yea, I was self-employed for about 7 years. For the first few years I was basically working every waking minute (mostly marketing). I had to schedule everything down to lunch to get stuff done. Why don't you come to the US or Canada?
Deleteduserrc December 03, 2016 at 18:33 #36696
Brothers Karamazov

The Ticklish Subject

Rising Up & Rising Down
Agustino December 03, 2016 at 18:33 #36697
Quoting csalisbury
Brothers Karamazov

Possibly my favorite novel.
Deleteduserrc December 03, 2016 at 18:38 #36701
Reply to Agustino I've read the first 1/3 twice, but when I was too young to really appreciate it ( 8th grade, 10th grade ) but I'm really enjoying it this time around.
Janus December 04, 2016 at 07:52 #36780
Reply to csalisbury

Strange synchronicities; I've just started reading it again this week: and loving it so far.
Wayfarer December 04, 2016 at 08:54 #36783
Just finished Quantum, Manjit Kumar. Excellent account of the Bohr-Einstein debates for non specialists.
_db December 08, 2016 at 05:10 #37465
Every Cradle Is A Grave: Rethinking the Ethics of Birth and Suicide by Sarah Perry
Streetlight December 08, 2016 at 13:41 #37511
Daniel W. Smith - Essays on Deleuze

May or may not be my last Deleuze reading for a while, unless I decide to pursue a Logic of Sense reading project, which is not altogether unlikely.
Agustino December 11, 2016 at 10:55 #38015
Should we not move the book discussion to a separate thread? I'd want to join in, but I'm not sure if we should clutter this thread. What do you think @unenlightened or any of the other mods?
Streetlight December 11, 2016 at 11:06 #38018
Streetlight December 23, 2016 at 23:06 #40798
As per usual, here's the 2016 list:

Deleuze reading:

Gilles Deleuze - What Is Philosophy?
Gilles Deleuze - Difference and Repetition* (reread)
Gilles Deleuze - Bergsonism
Gilles Deleuze and Claire Parnet - Dialogues II
Jeffrey A. Bell - The Problem of Difference: Phenomenology and Poststructualism
Jeffrey A. Bell - Philosophy at the Edge of Chaos: Gilles Deleuze and the Philosophy of Difference*
Jeffrey A. Bell - Deleuze and Guattari's 'What Is Philosophy': A Critical Introduction and Guide
John Protevi - Political Physics: Deleuze, Derrida and the Body Politic
Helen Palmer - Deleuze and Futurism: A Manifesto for Nonsense
Sean Bowden - The Priority of Events: Deleuze's Logic of Sense
James Williams - Gilles Deleuze's Philosophy of Time: A Critical Introduction and Guide
Henry Somers-Hall - Deleuze's Difference and Repetition: An Edinburgh Philosophical Guide
Eric Alliez - Signature of the World: What is Deleuze and Guattari's Philosophy?
Daniel Smith - Essays on Deleuze (currently reading)

Science-y reading

Robert Rosen - Life Itself: A Comprehensive Inquiry into the Nature, Origin, and Fabrication of Life* (reread)
Robert Rosen - Essays on Life Itself
Gregory Bateson - Steps to an Ecology of Mind: Collected Essays in Anthropology, Psychiatry, Evolution, and Epistemology
Manuel De Landa - Philosophy and Simulation: The Emergence of Synthetic Reason
Karen Barad - Meeting the Universe Halfway: Quantum Physics and the Entanglement of Matter and Meaning (reread)

Anthropology

Andre Leroi-Gourhan - Gesture and Speech*
Marcel Mauss - The Gift: The Form and Reason for Exchange in Archaic Societies
Marcel Mauss - A General Theory of Magic

Misc.

Brian Massumi - Parables For the Virtual: Movement, Affect, Sensation
Donald Landes - Merleau-Ponty and the Paradoxes of Expression*
Paul Bains - The Primacy of Semiosis: An Ontology of Relations
James Williams - A Process Philosophy of Signs
Emanuele Coccia - Sensible Life: A Micro-ontology of the Image
Anthony Wilden - System and Structure: Essays in Communication and Exchange*
Arkady Plotnitsky - In the Shadow of Hegel: Complementarity, History, and the Unconscious
Vicki Kirby - Quantum Anthropologies: Life at Large
Eugence Thacker - Cosmic Pessimism

Asterisks indicate my favourite ones. Lots of Deleuze, as per usual, but I'm actually attending seminars on the stuff this year, so not unexpected. A bit dismayed by the lack of female authors - again - this year, can only hope for more next year. Could have used a bit more pilitics too. Didn't read as many as last year (32 as opposed to 40 something) but I'm putting that down to having read some pretty hefty ones this year (Leroi-Gourhan, Wilden, Plotnitsky, Rosen). Next year's plans include reading on gesture, sensation, metaphor, technics, the analog, and more psychoanalysis. Also, Marx's Capital. Happy holidays all, and good reading!
Saphsin December 27, 2016 at 04:44 #41452
I found this book, "Negative Math: How Mathematical Rules Can Be Positively Bent" by Albert Martinez intriguing..... I'm still working it out and it can be really enlightening for philosophy of mathematics, not sure why I haven't seen this book widely promoted before.

_______

https://www.amazon.com/Negative-Math-Mathematical-Rules-Positively/dp/0691133913/ref=cm_rdp_product

"A student in class asks the math teacher: "Shouldn't minus times minus make minus?" Teachers soon convince most students that it does not. Yet the innocent question brings with it a germ of mathematical creativity. What happens if we encourage that thought, odd and ungrounded though it may seem?

Few books in the field of mathematics encourage such creative thinking. Fewer still are engagingly written and fun to read. This book succeeds on both counts. Alberto Martinez shows us how many of the mathematical concepts that we take for granted were once considered contrived, imaginary, absurd, or just plain wrong. Even today, he writes, not all parts of math correspond to things, relations, or operations that we can actually observe or carry out in everyday life.

Negative Math ponders such issues by exploring controversies in the history of numbers, especially the so-called negative and "impossible" numbers. It uses history, puzzles, and lively debates to demonstrate how it is still possible to devise new artificial systems of mathematical rules. In fact, the book contends, departures from traditional rules can even be the basis for new applications. For example, by using an algebra in which minus times minus makes minus, mathematicians can describe curves or trajectories that are not represented by traditional coordinate geometry.

Clear and accessible, Negative Math expects from its readers only a passing acquaintance with basic high school algebra. It will prove pleasurable reading not only for those who enjoy popular math, but also for historians, philosophers, and educators."
_db January 08, 2017 at 02:55 #45160
The Philosophy of Disenchantment by Edgar Saltus. Great prose.
Rich January 08, 2017 at 03:19 #45163
Reply to StreetlightX

If you have an interest in Bergson, you may want to have a look at The Physicist & Philosopher, Einstein, Bergson, and the Debate That Changed Our Understanding of Time, by Jimena Canales. I got my copy at the library but subsequently purchased it so that I have it as a permanent resource in my library. A fascinating combination of history, science, and philosophy. Since reading this book and reading subsequent reviews and critiques, my views have changed substantially.
Streetlight January 08, 2017 at 04:11 #45168
Reply to Rich Cheers - I've actually come across that book a couple of times but haven't yet gone out of my way to pick it up. I've got a list as long as my arm of books to read this year, but when I get around to "Bergsoning" again, I'll definitely keep it in mind. Speaking of - currently reading:

Noah Roderick - The Being of Analogy
Kaja Silverman - Flesh of my Flesh
Baden January 08, 2017 at 16:44 #45245
Franz Kafka - The Trial

A man is persecuted by pernicious forces beyond his control. Not sure what will happen in the end. Presumably the bureaucrats will execute him.
Agustino January 08, 2017 at 17:31 #45250
https://aeon.co/essays/could-we-explain-the-world-without-cause-and-effect
Noble Dust January 08, 2017 at 18:11 #45257
Just finished -
The Silmarillion - J.R.R. Tolkien

Currently -

Rebellious Prophet - Donald Lowrie
Tao Te Ching - Lao Tzu
Maw January 08, 2017 at 19:03 #45279
Usually I do my annual reading roundup, but in the last 6 months I haven't been keeping track since I would normally write it down in the currently reading thread of the old forum. From what I can remember, here is what I read in 2016:

Pessimism: Philosophy, Ethics, Spirit by Joshua Foa Dienstag (reread)
The Guide For The Perplexed by Moses Maimonides
Operette Morali by Giacomo Leopardi
Socialism After Hayek by Theodore Burczak
History and Utopia by Cioran (reread)
Nihil Unbound by Ray Brassier (reread)
Vibrant Matter: A Political Ecology of Things by Jane Bennett
Open Closed Open by Yehuda Amichai
The Fall Into Time by Cioran
The Lord of the Rings by Tolkien (reread)
The Great Transformation by Karl Polanyi
Melancholy by Laszlo Foldenyi
Anathemas and Admirations by Cioran
Identity and Violence by Amartya Sen (reread)
The White Racial Frame by Joe R. Feagin
The Market: Ethics, Knowledge and Politics by John O'Neill
Moby-Dick by Herman Melville (currently reading)
The Anatomy of Melancholy by Robert Burton (currently reading)
One Thousand and One Nights (currently reading)

Hanover January 08, 2017 at 20:08 #45295
Reply to Baden SPOILER ALERT: He marries his father and artificially inseminates his sister as a prank.
Baden January 09, 2017 at 02:48 #45402
Reply to Hanover

You may be confusing this work with your upcoming biography, "HANLOVER: Uncensored Confessions of a Lounge Lizard".

In all seriousness (and I realize this is where I lose you), The Trial is sublime, particularly the second to last chapter with the priest, and the one with Block and the lawyer. Read it. Edify yourself. Stay away from your sister.
BC January 09, 2017 at 03:37 #45409
Currently reading The Horse in the City. Living Machines in the Nineteenth Century. Clay McShane and Joel A. Tarr. It's the second "horse book" the first one being "Horses at work" by Anne Norton Green. Both books forces on the vital role of the horse in the industrial revolution. Green's book compares the use of oxen, mules, and horses (each having advantages and disadvantages) in agriculture, especially, and the role of the horse in the American Civil War. As the title suggests, McShane and Tarr are much more concerned with urban horse use than agricultural use.

Both books focus on the horse as a 'living machine' which provided energy for all sorts of functions. Horses walking on treadmills, for instance, powered ferries across rivers, lakes and harbors; they powered equipment like sawmills (10 horses walking in a circle around a central capstan), or pumps, for instance. Horses pulled all sorts of machinery that swept streets, cut hay, and plowed the land.

A classic "industry & horse" combo was the fire wagon: A team of horses pulled a wagon on which was mounted a smoking steam engine that powered a water pump to put out the fire.

There's also quite a bit about horse diseases, (glanders, for instance) the development of veterinary science, costs of using horses, the significant value that could be extracted from a fresh dead horse, and so on. One thing is extremely clear: In the 19th century, almost everyone viewed the horse as a machine. If the horse couldn't work, it was dead meat.

Horses, were themselves, an industry. The largest horse market, in Chicago, could handle 30,000 horses.
Hanover January 09, 2017 at 03:43 #45410
Reply to Baden I will read it. What are you wearing?

I actually creeped myself out with that one. That's a keeper.
S January 09, 2017 at 12:35 #45485
Quoting Wosret
John Stuart Mill said that if he found a book [an] effort to read, then he would also read a book he enjoyed at the same time, and go back and forth.


Ah, interesting.

Having finished [I]British Labour Leaders[/I], I have since begun reading [I]The Conservatives: A History[/I], and I'm currently on the chapter titled "Peel's Party".
S January 09, 2017 at 12:48 #45486
Quoting csalisbury
Brothers Karamazov


Quoting Agustino
Possibly my favorite novel.


Certainly one of my favourites by Dostoyevsky, and one of my favourites in general, too. Hard to choose between [i]Brothers Karamazov[/I] and [i]Crime and Punishment[/I].

I have his complete works stored on my phone - and it only cost me something like a pound!

Quoting Hanover
I will read it. What are you wearing?

I actually creeped myself out with that one. That's a keeper.


:D
Metaphysician Undercover January 09, 2017 at 12:55 #45487
Quoting Bitter Crank
Horses, were themselves, an industry. The largest horse market, in Chicago, could handle 30,000 horses.


It's amazing how many massive workhorses there were around the land less than two hundred years ago, and now they're almost extinct, just a few scattered around for show. I guess they require a lot of work to keep, for no use, and eat piles of food. Stand beside one, they are incredible animals, so big and strong, but very gentle. If the horse is a machine, it's the most gentle machine I've ever seen, but it's still got a mind of its own, so watch out! And don't mistreat it.
Baden January 09, 2017 at 16:02 #45522
David Deutsch - The Beginning of Infinity

Good for a brush up on Philosophy of Science, and more.

Jamal January 17, 2017 at 09:44 #47486
The Life and Opinions of the Tomcat Murr together with a fragmentary Biography of Kapellmeister Johannes Kreisler on Random Sheets of Waste Paper by E. T. A. Hoffmann
Maw January 23, 2017 at 03:54 #49110
Democratic Enlightenment: Philosophy, Revolution, and Human Rights 1750-1790 by Jonathon Israel
Jamal January 23, 2017 at 04:00 #49112
Reply to Maw what do you think of it?
Streetlight January 23, 2017 at 16:01 #49249
Giorgio Agamben - The End of the Poem: Studies in Poetics
Maw January 23, 2017 at 16:16 #49256
Reply to jamalrob I've only just started, about 100 pages in. I've read the two previous works in Israel's Enlightenment Trilogy,Radical Enlightenment and Enlightenment Contested, and loved them both, so I have no doubt this will be of similar high standard work.
Hanover January 23, 2017 at 17:27 #49267
Quoting Sapientia
I have his complete works stored on my phone - and it only cost me something like a pound!


You read Brothers Karamazov on your phone screen? Impressive.
Jamal January 23, 2017 at 23:06 #49443
Reply to Maw Thanks. Been meaning to read them myself.
_db January 28, 2017 at 23:10 #50921
Reply to Maw I took your advice and purchased a used copy of Deinstag's Pessimism: Philosophy, Ethic, Spirit. So far, I am impressed by his style and breadth. His analysis of the time-consciousness of humanity, and the subsequent analysis of pessimism's kernel as the rejection of social progress paralleling time-linearity was fascinating. Thanks.
Maw January 29, 2017 at 06:46 #51016
Reply to darthbarracuda Glad you are enjoying it. If you find those subjects intellectually appealing, you might also enjoy Black Mass and Straw Dogs by John N. Gray
Streetlight January 30, 2017 at 06:27 #51285
Aden Evens - Sound Ideas: Music, Machines, and Experience
Maw February 01, 2017 at 01:51 #51782
What Is Populism? by Jan-Werner Muller
Saphsin February 01, 2017 at 05:45 #51797
Why Is There Philosophy of Mathematics At All? - Ian Hacking
Why Americans Hate the Media and How It Matters - Jonathan Ladd

Baden February 07, 2017 at 08:43 #53449
Robert McKee - Story

What makes a Hollywood baby more than its bathwater? Roll up, roll up...
Streetlight February 07, 2017 at 12:17 #53467
Catherine Mills - The Philosophy of Agamben
Benjamin Noys - The Persistence of the Negative: A Critique of Contemporary Continental Theory (rereading)
mcdoodle February 08, 2017 at 09:25 #53749
Reply to Baden Baden, I used to teach scriptwriting in a department using the McKee model. It's like all good writing structures in my opinion: great to learn as long as you don't finally become a prisoner of it. Are you writing scripts yourself?
Pierre-Normand February 08, 2017 at 10:01 #53756
Scott Sehon, Free Will and Action Explanation: A Non-Causal, Compatibilist Account, OUP, 2016

George Ellis, How Can Physics Underlie the Mind: Top-Down Causation in the Human Context, Springer-Verlag, 2016

Andrea Kern, Sources of Knowledge: On the Concept of a Rational Capacity for Knowledge, HUP, 2017
Baden February 08, 2017 at 10:29 #53760
Quoting mcdoodle
Baden, I used to teach scriptwriting in a department using the McKee model. It's like all good writing structures in my opinion: great to learn as long as you don't finally become a prisoner of it


Yeah, I found it very interesting looking at movies through his theoretical lens. Also, helped me understand some things about my own writing in general.

Quoting mcdoodle
Are you writing scripts yourself?


Not yet, but thinking about it.
Streetlight February 13, 2017 at 01:53 #54645
Daniel Heller-Roazen - The Fifth Hammer: Pythagoras and the Disharmony of the World
Maw February 15, 2017 at 05:40 #54991
The Sixth Extinction by Elizabeth Kolbert
The Second Treatise of Government by John Locke
Shawn February 15, 2017 at 06:40 #55001
I have a decent memory. So what I do is read my memories. I'm too lazy to read books. If only I had photographic or eidetic memory I could read my memories, like a machine.
Streetlight February 17, 2017 at 00:19 #55297
Edward Campbell - Music After Deleuze
Alessandro Ferrara - The Force of the Example: Explorations in the Paradigm of Judgement
Bonnie Honig - Emergency Politics: Paradox, Law, Democracy
protectedplastic March 05, 2017 at 04:18 #59203
Democracy in America - Alexis De Tocqueville
Streetlight March 06, 2017 at 10:58 #59451
Eleni Ikoniadou - The Rhythmic Event: Art, Media, and the Sonic
Paul Patton - Deleuze and the Political
Hannah Arendt - The Life of the Mind
_db March 06, 2017 at 17:45 #59487
Commonsense Consequentialism: Wherein Morality Meets Rationality by Douglas Portmore
_db March 23, 2017 at 18:40 #62197
Oxford Handbook of Philosophy of Physics

Link: http://strangebeautiful.com/other-texts/batterman-ox-hndbk-phil-phys.pdf
_db March 24, 2017 at 18:00 #62383
The Gender Knot by Allan G. Johnson. Really good read.

http://community.mis.temple.edu/mis3504digitaldesignsections12/files/2015/01/Gender-Knot-Sample.pdf
protectedplastic March 25, 2017 at 16:50 #62540
All of Edgar Allen Poe's tales of horror and mystery.
Shawn March 26, 2017 at 01:23 #62649
The Reasons of Love, Harry G. Frankfurt

Frankfurt is one of my favorite philosophers as of recent. He presents a compelling case for treating love and more importantly self-love as the highest good.
Maw March 27, 2017 at 15:06 #62942
Peeling Potatoes or Grinding Lenses: Spinoza and Young Wittgenstein Converse on Immanence and Its Logic by Aristides Baltas
Deleteduserrc March 27, 2017 at 16:22 #62953
Foam (Spheres vol. 3) - Peter Sloterdijk
Underworld - Don Delillo
Streetlight April 07, 2017 at 00:25 #64742
Linda Zerilli - A Democratic Theory of Judgement
The Great Whatever April 07, 2017 at 02:03 #64749
Titus Groan - Mervyn Peake
Mistress of Mistresses - E. R. Eddison
Lud-in-the-Mist - Hope Mirrlees
Baden April 08, 2017 at 16:47 #64961
In Between the Sheets - Ian McEwan
That Glimpse of Truth (Short Story Collection) - David Miller (Ed)

Both great - if you like short stories - the second in particular.
andrewk April 09, 2017 at 00:19 #65001
Just finished 'Le chair et le sang' (Flesh and Blood) by Francois Mauriac.
It was a difficult read, but rewarding towards the end. It captured the ambiguity and uncertainty of human relationships really well.

It felt somewhat Existentialist to me. But it was written in 1926, thus pre-dating Existentialism.
quine April 09, 2017 at 00:25 #65002
Sketch for a Systematic Metaphysics - D. M. Armstrong
Analyticity - Cory Juhl & Eric Loomis

Baden April 10, 2017 at 16:14 #65184
Griftopia - Matt Taibbi

“To sum it all up, the [Ayn] Rand belief system looks like this:
1. Facts are facts: things can be absolutely right or absolutely wrong, as determined by reason.
2. According to my reasoning, I am absolutely right.
3. Charity is immoral.
4. Pay for your own fucking schools.”

“The new America...is fast becoming a vast ghetto in which all of us, conservatives and progressives, are being bled dry by a relatively tiny oligarchy of extremely clever financial criminals and their castrato henchmen in government, whose job is to be good actors on TV and put on a good show.”

Informative. Depressing.
Hanover April 11, 2017 at 15:08 #65354
Quoting Baden
3. Charity is immoral.

What the good Ms. Rand said was that charity wasn't a moral virtue, not that it was immoral. That is, you are under no obligation to give, and you're not considered good if you do give, but you are not actually immoral if you give. http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/charity.html

See what you did here? You started a conversation about Ayn Rand, just like she wanted you to.
Baden April 11, 2017 at 15:11 #65355
Reply to Hanover

Meh, she can't complain, she's dead.
Hanover April 11, 2017 at 15:16 #65356
Reply to Baden She lives on through the seeds of kindness she sowed during her life.
Baden April 11, 2017 at 15:22 #65357
Reply to Hanover

Pass the herbicide.
_db April 23, 2017 at 19:31 #67495
Stumbled upon a great piece by Susan Haack - "Scientism and its Discontents"
Pierre-Normand April 24, 2017 at 04:58 #67547
Quoting darthbarracuda
Stumbled upon a great piece by Susan Haack


Yes, nice that's its freely available online. It's based on two lectures that you can also watch on YouTube.
Science, Yes; Scientism, No
Scientistic Philosophy, No; Scientific Philosophy, Yes

And also of interest: Six Signs of Scientism
Noble Dust April 24, 2017 at 07:12 #67553
The Return of the King - J.R.R. Tolkien (re-reading)

Dynamics of Faith - Paul Tillich

Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing - Kierkegaard

oh god..
quine April 24, 2017 at 07:50 #67554
I finished reading Armstrong's Sketch for a Systematic Metaphysics today. I am going to Frank Jackson's From Metaphysics to Ethics.
Streetlight April 24, 2017 at 14:30 #67594
Bonnie Honig - Public Things: Democracy In Disrepair
Raymond Geuss - Public Goods, Private Goods
Shawn April 24, 2017 at 17:25 #67604
Thomas Sowell - Basic Economics

Guy gets it right every time. Just too bad people aren't as rational as conservatives think.
Streetlight April 30, 2017 at 00:40 #68420
Linda Zerilli - Feminism and the Abyss of Freedom
The Great Whatever April 30, 2017 at 03:44 #68445
Nine Princes in Amber – Roger Zelazny
The Guns of Avalon – Roger Zelazny
Streetlight May 07, 2017 at 07:49 #69371
Wendy Brown - States of Injury: Power and Freedom in Late Modernity
JulianMau May 07, 2017 at 15:38 #69400
The Basic Writings of Bertrand Russell

The Journey to the East -- Herman Hesse

Personal Identity and Buddhist Philosophy: Empty Persons -- Mark Siderits
Baden May 09, 2017 at 15:46 #69701
Blow-Up: And other stories - Julio Cortazar
S May 09, 2017 at 22:47 #69764
Still reading [I]The Conservatives - A History[/I].

The book begins in 1662, and I'm currently about three quarters of the way through, at the year 1937, with Neville Chamberlain as leader: a chapter titled "The Appeasment Party". It goes up to David Cameron.

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Streetlight May 10, 2017 at 11:46 #69807
Bonnie Honig - Political Theory and the Displacement of Politics
Colby Dickinson - Words Fail: Theology, Poetry, and the Challenge of Representation
The Great Whatever May 14, 2017 at 00:37 #70331
Looking to start these next:

The Sign of the Unicorn – Roger Zelazny
The Lost Continent: The Story of Atlantis – C. J. Cutcliffe Hyne
Streetlight May 22, 2017 at 02:37 #71526
Raymond Geuss - Philosophy and Real Politics
Raymond Geuss - Politics and the Imagination
Raymond Geuss - Outside Ethics
Deleted User May 26, 2017 at 23:26 #72400
Jonathan Edwards - Freedom of the Will
Pierre-Normand May 27, 2017 at 00:28 #72411
Quoting Sineview
Jonathan Edwards - Freedom of the Will


Nice. I notice that it's available for free on the Google Play Store.
Deleted User May 29, 2017 at 19:48 #72953
Quoting Pierre-Normand
Nice. I notice that it's available for free on the Google Play Store.


Always a compelling feature.
_db May 30, 2017 at 20:00 #73147
Arthur Schopenhauer - Essays and Aphorisms

Søren Kierkegaard - Fear and Trembling

Richard Polt - Heidegger: An Introduction

Robin Le Poidevin - Arguing for Atheism

Emmanuel Levinas - Basic Philosophical Writings
Thorongil May 30, 2017 at 21:16 #73164
Quoting darthbarracuda
Arthur Schopenhauer - Essays and Aphorisms


You should just read the whole Parerga and Paralipomena.
Janus June 01, 2017 at 08:14 #73520
Presently: The Fate of Reason: German Philosophy from Kant to Fichte Frederick C. Beiser

Recently: Kant and Spinozism Beth Lord

Reply to StreetlightX

Was it a wild Geuss chase? >:O
Streetlight June 01, 2017 at 08:45 #73531
Quoting John
Was it a wild Geuss chase?


Take a Geuss :P

I'm so sad though, I left a bag in a taxi with Politics and the Imagination in it and it was such a good book :(
Janus June 01, 2017 at 09:03 #73539
Reply to StreetlightX

A wild Geuss was taken...

Quoting StreetlightX
I'm so sad though, I left a bag in a taxi with Politics and the Imagination in it and it was such a good book


Sympathy...
:)

Agustino June 01, 2017 at 09:13 #73542
Reply to StreetlightX
Don't worry the cab driver's happy now! :P
Thorongil June 01, 2017 at 17:09 #73628
James Thurber's short stories, which are hilarious.
Streetlight June 03, 2017 at 17:00 #74111
Wendy Brown - Edgework: Critical Essays on Knowledge and Politics
Wendy Brown - Walled States, Waning Sovereignty
Streetlight June 17, 2017 at 17:41 #78268
Hannah Arendt - Between Past and Future: Eight Excercises In Political Thought
Wendy Brown - Politics out of History
_db July 01, 2017 at 06:03 #82719
The Death of Ivan Ilych by Leo Tolstoy
Brian July 01, 2017 at 09:59 #82738
Not academic philosophy, but just started reading Dawkins' The God Delusion which I've never gotten around to before.

I've also been reading snippets of Nietzsche, Russell, and G. E. Moore here and there.
Noble Dust July 01, 2017 at 10:05 #82740
Just finished The Upanishads

Currently:

The Bhagavad Gita
Till We Have Faces - C.S. Lewis (re-reading)
The Man Who Was Thursday - G.K. Chesterton (re-reading)
Exploring Philosophy - compiled by Steven M. Cahn (Brooklyn stoop find!)
Dynamics of Faith - Paul Tillich
The Gay Science - Nietzsche
Agustino July 01, 2017 at 21:43 #82831
Does anyone have access to this book please? Or do you know where it can be purchased for much cheaper? Please PM me.

https://www.amazon.com/Kierkegaard-Nietzsche-Acceptance-Philosophy-Religion/dp/0312173474

EDIT: Got it, thank you, you know who you are! (Y)
Streetlight July 05, 2017 at 17:12 #83763
Wendy Brown - Undoing the Demos: Neoliberalism's Stealth Revolution
Raymond Geuss - Politics and the Imagination (new copy :D )
_db July 21, 2017 at 04:02 #88725
Weltschmerz by Frederick C. Beiser
anonymous66 July 21, 2017 at 11:32 #88820
Quoting andrewk
Just finished 'Le chair et le sang' (Flesh and Blood) by Francois Mauriac.
It was a difficult read, but rewarding towards the end. It captured the ambiguity and uncertainty of human relationships really well.

It felt somewhat Existentialist to me. But it was written in 1926, thus pre-dating Existentialism.

I read Viper's Tangle years ago. It's a great book. Mauriac was friends with several French Existentialists, including Gabriel Marcel.
Marcel joined the ranks of “Christian existentialists” while working as the drama critic for L’Europe nouvelle. Following a favorable review of a work by François Mauriac, Marcel received a note from the author. “Why are you not one of us?” Mauriac asked. Not long after, Marcel joined the Catholic Church and would remain a defender of faith.

Mauriac wrote to Marcel in 1929.
Marcel's philosophy was always preoccupied with the religious dimension of life, but his upbringing had been religiously agnostic (uncertain as to whether one can really know that God exists), and he was not formally a believer. In 1929, however, an open letter from the distinguished French Catholic writer François Mauriac challenged Marcel to admit that his views suggested a belief in God. His subsequent conversion to Catholicism gave a new dimension to certain aspects of his philosophy. But he remained a strikingly independent thinker whose ideas were formed before his conversion—and as such could be regarded as important indicators of certain Godly aspects of the human experience. Marcel became a leader in French Catholic intellectual circles, and his Paris home was the locale for stimulating discussion among leading European intellectuals of all persuasions.

anonymous66 July 21, 2017 at 11:41 #88825
I've been reading Max Jammer's (love that name!) Einstein and Religion: Physics and Theology.
CasKev July 21, 2017 at 13:05 #88879
Man, you guys read some really heavy stuff!

I'm currently reading The Broken Eye, by Brent Weeks. :)
Streetlight July 27, 2017 at 10:07 #90734
Melinda Cooper - Family Values: Between Neoliberalism and the New Social Conservatism
Ivan Ascher - Portfolio Society: On the Capitalist Mode of Prediction
Pacem July 27, 2017 at 14:09 #90748
Jose Ortega Y Gasset - History as a System
_db July 30, 2017 at 21:25 #91698
David Benatar - The Human Predicament
Thorongil July 30, 2017 at 21:38 #91703
Reply to darthbarracuda Is the violation of copyright law part of the human predicament?
Thorongil July 30, 2017 at 21:43 #91704
I read a short story by Evelyn Waugh recently, which I was pleasantly surprised by. I might explore his other fiction at some point.
_db July 30, 2017 at 22:39 #91719
Reply to Thorongil I'm not violating copyright law simply by reading what someone else has uploaded. If they hadn't uploaded it, I probably would not have read it.
Thorongil July 30, 2017 at 23:17 #91726
Reply to darthbarracuda But is it ethical for you to do so? It seems you likely had to actively search out such a file, as opposed to it falling into your lap.
_db July 31, 2017 at 00:29 #91745
Quoting Thorongil
But is it ethical for you to do so? It seems you likely had to actively search out such a file, as opposed to it falling into your lap.


Believe it or not it actually did kinda fall into my lap.
WISDOMfromPO-MO July 31, 2017 at 01:12 #91763
Superstructuralism: The Philosophy of Structuralism and Post-Structuralism, by Richard Harland.
Thorongil July 31, 2017 at 02:32 #91775
Reply to darthbarracuda Well, I'll be damned. You dun dodged an ethical and a legal quandary, my friend.
Thorongil July 31, 2017 at 02:32 #91776
WISDOMfromPO-MO July 31, 2017 at 03:09 #91787
Quoting Thorongil
Gross.






I bought it used, so I haven't tasted the pages.
_db August 08, 2017 at 01:17 #94075
Conquest of Abundance by Paul Feyerabend.
_db August 14, 2017 at 20:52 #96392
A Thing of This World: A History of Continental Anti-Realism by Lee Braver.
Streetlight August 15, 2017 at 07:14 #96619
Quoting darthbarracuda
A Thing of This World: A History of Continental Anti-Realism by Lee Braver


Wonderful book, even if, ultimately, I disagree with it's thrust! The reading of Davidson alongside Heidegger in particular is a tour de force.

--

Judith Butler - Antigone's Claim: Kinship Between Life and Death
Loic Wacquant - Punishing the Poor: the Neoliberal Government of Social Insecurity
_db August 15, 2017 at 18:38 #97015
Reply to StreetlightX I agree, it is well-written and very interesting.
Streetlight August 25, 2017 at 11:03 #100128
[IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/25pn4b5.jpg[/IMG]

There we go.
Streetlight September 02, 2017 at 06:31 #101801
Melinda Cooper - Life as Surplus: Biotechnology and Capitalism in the Neoliberal Era
Nikolas Rose - The Politics of Life Itself: Biomedicine, Power, and Subjectivity in the Twenty-First Century
Maw September 03, 2017 at 23:07 #102168
SPQR by Mary Beard
The Silmarillion by Tolkien
_db September 03, 2017 at 23:29 #102175
The Right and the Good by W. D. Ross.
Streetlight September 12, 2017 at 01:31 #104098
Peter Brain and Ian Manning - Credit Code Red: How Financial Deregulation and World Instability are Exposing Australia to Economic Catastrophe

Some light, local reading while I wait for my Rose book to arrive : )
0af September 12, 2017 at 02:30 #104112
Words (Sartre's autobiography)
Dissemination (Derrida)
Interrogating the Real (Zizek)
Just finished the Sartre, actually. He's very open and likable. Finished first part of Derrida. Really liked the thoughts on Hegel's prefaces (which exiled themselves famously to a space outside philosophy proper). Derrida's prose is thick, of course, but I really like his tone. It's the same tone of his other texts I've look it. Cold but curious. He's also a thinker of form, or of the "content" in form. Zizek is great as usual (one of my favorite personalities), but the book (for me) lost steam after a very powerful beginning. Still, loved that beginning. He does tend to repeat himself, I've noticed. Oh well, maybe a personality is often permutations on a few key insights/revelations.
Agustino September 14, 2017 at 09:14 #104636
Quoting Thorongil
But is it ethical for you to do so? It seems you likely had to actively search out such a file, as opposed to it falling into your lap.

Quoting darthbarracuda
Believe it or not it actually did kinda fall into my lap.

>:O

I'm currently reading these books, all at once :-O (a few I've finished already though):

Behold The Spirit by Alan Watts
Gravity and Grace by Simone Weil
The Web of Life by Fritjof Capra (reread)
The Republic by Plato (reread)
The Real Estate Game by William J. Poorvu
This paper by Thomas Metzinger (not that I agree with his views, but it was interesting to read)

Mostly philosophy, except that business book by Poorvu.
_db September 14, 2017 at 15:17 #104699
Reply to Agustino Took a look at the Metzinger essay. I can't say I like what Metzinger writes in general - I read his book The Ego Tunnel expecting to be blown the fuck away and left with a bunch of unanswered questions. Later I realized his view is based largely off of shaky contemporary neuroscience. Graham Harman has a good set of criticisms of Metzinger's positions - his general scientism (contra phenomenology, commonly found in reductive materialist and eliminativist literature), his reductionism (once again, contra phenomenology), and his incoherent notion of a no-self (ditto again on the phenomenology). He uses science as the unexplained explainer - ignoring subjective phenomenal experience in favor of "objective", "hard", "phallic", "scientific" data.

A few pages into the essay and he re-states what Nietzsche had already made clear - that what makes a life worth living is whether or not you would live it over again. The amor fati of a hypothetical eternal recurrence. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's ahistorical wheel-reinvention.
Agustino September 14, 2017 at 15:19 #104701
Quoting darthbarracuda
Graham Harman

Could you give me a link to those? Thanks!
_db September 14, 2017 at 15:21 #104702
Reply to Agustino

http://www.cosmosandhistory.org/index.php/journal/article/view/231

http://heavysideindustries.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/HARMAN_IAmAlsooftheOpinionThatMaterialismMustBeDestroyed.pdf
Agustino September 14, 2017 at 17:53 #104730
Reply to darthbarracuda Thanks.

I've also read The Ego Tunnel.

As everyone knows I'm not sympathetic to the eliminative materialist stance, nor for that matter to those who are diametrically opposed to them: the (Cartesian) substance dualists. Like Richard Swinburne.

But I think Metzinger, despite his tendencies towards eliminative materialism has quite a few interesting points. For example, his idea that the self is more like a process / activity rather than a static / passive substance is good. His idea that this "phenomenal self-model" is transparent, namely that it is not perceived like an activity/process is also interesting - this also brings up the possibility of the phenomenal self model becoming opaque, and hence visible. I'd say he is quite close to the religious tradition of Buddhism, and is more like someone such as Sam Harris from the atheists. In other words, his "eliminative materialism" isn't as eliminative as he sometimes makes it sound.

Personally, I side more with philosophers like Plato/Aristotle or St. Augustine/Aquinas and think that the soul (or self) is the form of the body, in the technical sense of the term. Both form and matter are needed to constitute the substance that is us.
_db September 15, 2017 at 03:00 #104815
Reply to Agustino Metzinger's article was interesting. Can't say I learned all too much that I didn't already "know", apart from Metzinger's own musings about how suffering manifests in his philosophical model of the self (PSM). Was surprised but also disappointed at his short section on antinatalism, was glad to see the distinction between negative utilitarianism and AN.

He's right, though. Suffering is a very important, if not the most important, relevant constraint on inquiry. It's time we start taking it more seriously, in science, phenomenology, and ethics. In this sense, religion has a serious head start.
Streetlight September 23, 2017 at 01:01 #107331
George Williams and Daniel Reynolds - A Charter of Rights For Australia
Evelyn Fox Keller - Making Sense of Life: Explaining Biological Development with Models, Metaphors, and Machines
Evelyn Fox Keller - The Mirage of a Space Between Nature and Culture
Shawn September 24, 2017 at 09:42 #107801
Life 3.0
Streetlight September 26, 2017 at 05:43 #108435
My Fox Keller books haven't arrived yet : ( So, before those -

Catherine Malabou - Before Tomorrow: Epigenesis and Rationality
Catherine Malabou - Changing Difference: The Question of the Feminine in Philosophy
Maurice Blanchot - The Step Not Beyond
_db October 08, 2017 at 22:39 #112596
Edward Feser: Scholastic Metaphysics

https://isidore.co/calibre/get/pdf/Scholastic%20Metaphysics_%20A%20Contemporary%20Introduction%20-%20Feser%2C%20Edward_5458.pdf

Happened to stumble upon this one, been wanting to read it for a while.

Reply to apokrisis you might like this.
Dogar October 08, 2017 at 22:48 #112599
John Banville - The Book of Evidence.

Guy Debord - The Society of the Spectacle.

Always try to read three books simultaneously, one fiction/short stories, one philosophical/non-fiction and one book of poetry. But I haven't been able to find a book of poetry that has held my attention recently.
t0m October 09, 2017 at 05:12 #112709
Reply to Dogar
Ever read Ariel?

I recently picked up The Concept of Time. [Heidegger] This is the short lecture. I think there's a longer text with the same name. The last two thirds are lean and lovely prose (translation by William McNeill). It's understated, suggestive.

I also have Existential Psychoanalysis. This is just a couple of chapters from Being and Nothingness, but Sartre is really on fire in the chapter "Existential Psychoanalysis."

[quote= Sartre]
[The] impossible synthesis of assimilation and an assimilated which maintains its integrity has deep-rooted connections with basic sexual drives. The idea of "carnal possession" offers us the irritating but seductive figure of a body perpetually possessed and perpetually new, on which possession leaves no trace. This is deeply symbolized in the quality of "smooth" or "polished." What is smooth can be taken and felt but remains no less impenetrable, does not give way in the least beneath the appropriative caress -- it is like water. This is the reason why erotic depictions insist on the smooth whiteness of a woman's body. Smooth --it is what reforms itself under the caress, as water reforms itself in its passage over the stone which has pierced it....It is at this point that we encounter the similarity to scientific research: the known object, like the stone in the stomach of the ostrich, is entirely within me, assimilated, transformed into my self, and is entirely me; but at the same time it is impenetrable, untransformable, entirely smooth, with the indifferent nudity of a body that is beloved and caressed in vain.

...
Destruction realizes appropriation perhaps more keenly than creation does, for the object destroyed is no longer there to show itself impenetrable. Is has the impenetrability and the sufficiency of the in-itself that has been, but at the same time it has the invisibility and translucency of the nothingness which I am, since it no longer exists.

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Noble Dust October 09, 2017 at 07:06 #112740
Just finished a collection of Lovecraft stories. Chipping away at The Gay Science as well. I've been extremely lazy lately.
Agustino October 09, 2017 at 20:14 #113026
Anyone know how to get access to On Tyranny? Please PM me.
Thorongil October 09, 2017 at 20:18 #113032
Reply to Agustino Buy it? It's in stock, mein Freund.
Agustino October 09, 2017 at 20:25 #113035
Quoting Thorongil
Buy it? It's in stock, mein Freund.

Too expensive for one book, especially since I'm only interested in one specific part of it.
Streetlight October 13, 2017 at 09:25 #114378
Giorgio Agamben - The Mystery of Evil: Benedict XVI and the End of Days
Eva Jablonka & Marion Lamb - Evolution in Four Dimensions: Genetic, Epigenetic, Behavioral, and Symbolic Variation in the History of Life
T Clark October 13, 2017 at 19:48 #114544
I've probably read 500 science fiction books. Most are badly written. Few have any depth. My son gave me "Ancillary Justice" by Ann Leckie last Christmas. I'm trying to think of a science fiction book I've loved more or that was better written. In the story, military space ships are run by sentient computers. The computers are connected to "ancillaries" who act as the ship's hands and eyes on and off-ship. Ancillaries are criminals who's minds have been wiped. The hero of the story is one of the ancillaries who breaks free.

It's a great story - interesting, thoughtful, and moving. It addresses gender in a way that is disorienting, enlightening, and philosophically challenging. The book is the first part of a trilogy. I've also read "Ancillary Sword," which is as good or better than the first. I have "Ancillary Mercy" which I haven't read yet.
TimeLine October 19, 2017 at 07:24 #116513
Reply to StreetlightX Oi, it's going to be cold tomorrow and I have a day off! That means my fat purple dance socks, over-sized XXL man-hoodie, fluffy white snuggly blanket and as much hot chocolate as I want while I read...

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It arrived today :)
Noble Dust October 19, 2017 at 07:59 #116516
Was re-reading through Rudolf Steiner's "Philosophy of Freedom" as well as Neitzsche's "The Gay Science", recently. Also finished "The Lurking Fear and Other Tales" by H.P. Lovecraft. Honestly more interested by Lovecraft than yer boys...
Agustino October 19, 2017 at 09:06 #116531
Reply to TimeLine Sounds like some postmodernist beating around the bush O:)

Reply to Noble Dust I've never read anything by Lovecraft. Apparently, he has a lot of fans scrambled around the internets.
TimeLine October 19, 2017 at 09:09 #116533
Reply to Agustino Not sure, because I don't make judgements until I actually read it, O judgemental one. :P
Agustino October 19, 2017 at 09:09 #116534
Reply to TimeLine Well, SLX only reads postmodernist beatings around the bush, so... :D
TimeLine October 19, 2017 at 09:15 #116535
Reply to Agustino You nasty little pastie.

Besides, if we did a comparative of post-quality, then post-modernism it is given that streetlight is a portal to the mysterious realms of awesomeness.
Agustino October 19, 2017 at 09:16 #116536
Streetlight October 19, 2017 at 09:18 #116537
Reply to TimeLine :D Awesome! Should be a pretty quick and fun read, alot of it is very 'practical' kind of advice where you'll be left wondering how political theory ever thought differently to begin with - or at least that's the hope.

Also - portal to mysterious realms of awesomeness will do just fine too :D
Hanover October 19, 2017 at 10:38 #116556
Wearing nothing but TL's fat purple dance socks, here's what I'm reading:
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Michael October 19, 2017 at 10:44 #116559
Reply to Hanover Thinking of a career change?
Hanover October 19, 2017 at 10:52 #116560
Reply to Michael Not so much. More like buying a car repair manual. It's cheaper to DIY.
Baden October 19, 2017 at 12:16 #116590
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Didn't have Gulag Archipelago on Kindle. This is pretty good though. Also got a sample of Street's Oyama ontogeny of info recommend.
TimeLine October 20, 2017 at 00:00 #116811
Reply to Hanover Don't steal my attention-seeking thunder, although a visual of you wearing nothing but my purple socks, my fluffy white blanket as a cape with a pair of novelty springy-eye glasses as you skip down the street singing zip-a-dee-doo-dah may just be as entertaining as this book.

Although, your book will be my next. (Y)
Noble Dust October 30, 2017 at 08:43 #119640
VALIS - Philip K. Dick :-O

Should I be worried by the fact that I can't put this one down?
Hand In Hand October 30, 2017 at 08:49 #119642
The next book I buy is an art book.
Streetlight November 01, 2017 at 16:07 #120401
Luciano Floridi - Information: A Very Short Introduction (this was so incredibly average)
Lila Gatlin - Information Theory and the Living System
Dorion Sagan & Eric Schneider - Into the Cool: Energy Flow, Thermodynamics, and Life
Wosret November 01, 2017 at 16:13 #120404
The Iliad (third time, damn it's so good)
The Hero with a Thousand faces (thought it was a little starry eyed)
Currently Divine Comedy (tons of allusions to classical literature, and all poetic af, quiet good).
Noble Dust November 01, 2017 at 17:07 #120429
Finished Philip K Dick's VALIS last night. That shit is whack.
Agustino November 01, 2017 at 18:16 #120438
Reply to Wosret Too much literature, where's them philosophy books?
Wosret November 01, 2017 at 18:26 #120447
Reply to Agustino

I've read most of them already (and haven't reread anyone besides Nietzsche and Kant, the best ones), besides stuff that came out in like the last hundred and fifty years or so, but few actually significant people have in my view.
Agustino November 01, 2017 at 18:31 #120451
Quoting Wosret
few actually significant people have

Few actually significant people have done what? Read philosophy you mean, or?

Quoting Wosret
Nietzsche and Kant, the best ones

For some reason, I remember Aristotle used to be your favorite. I've never read a lot of Kant, he produced so many works. CPR, Prolegomena, and the Critique of Practical Reason are all I've read.
Wosret November 01, 2017 at 18:41 #120459
Reply to Agustino

Do you genuinely misunderstand that, or trying to get me back on some grammatical error? It won't be hard to find one, but I really wasn't sure if you meant that other thing didn't make sense to me, but this is grammatically fine, it seems.

I said that I read most of them, besides within the last century, but few significant people have (come out in the last century or so).

Aristotle is still like third, he's super awesome too, but I just hadn't come to appreciate and fully absorb the other two yet. I used to think that Plato was a total ass too, but I've gotten more appreciation for him. I might even as well for moderns if I bothered with them.
Agustino November 01, 2017 at 18:49 #120465
Quoting Wosret
Do you genuinely misunderstand that, or trying to get me back on some grammatical error?

I don't bother about grammatical errors lol, why so paranoid? :P I just misunderstood.

Quoting Wosret
but few significant people have (come out in the last century or so).

Ok got you now. I would agree, mostly it's just Heidegger/Wittgenstein within the last century, though some people also give greater importance to folk like Russell.

Quoting Wosret
I used to think that Plato was a total ass too, but I've gotten more appreciation for him.

Strange, I always liked Plato, simply because he is fun to read generally. A very cool way to read philosophy, the dialogues that is.

Quoting Wosret
Aristotle is still like third, he's super awesome too, but I just hadn't come to appreciate and fully absorb the other two yet.

Yeah, I quite like A and K myself, not sure about Nietzsche though. I used to really like him when I first read him, but ever since then, I don't find his ideas as revolutionary as I first found them. Birth of Tragedy is probably my favourite of his works, don't much like BGE, TSZ, or Genealogy that much (nor Human all too human, or Twilight of the Idols for that matter :P ). Birth of Tragedy is good for the "discovery" of the Dyonisian element and the role it plays.
Wosret November 01, 2017 at 18:58 #120467
Reply to Agustino

I'm paranoid because I have trust issues.

I've read some of Witgenstein, Russel, Dewey, Levinas, De Beauvoir, Whitehead, Popper, Derrida... hmmm, um, maybe a few more, but those are all I can think of. From what I know of Heidegger, I would never read that asshat.
Jamie November 01, 2017 at 20:28 #120504
Nearly finished The Antichrist by Nietzsche.
Marty November 01, 2017 at 20:30 #120506
Since I'm bad at finishing books, I read books here and there, particularly focused on these:

The Norton Anthology of Theory and Criticism by Vincent B. Leitch
Schelling's Idealism And Philosophy Of Nature by Joseph L. Esposito
The Death of Nature: Women, Ecology, and the Scientific Revolution by Carolyn Merchant
John McDowell by Tim Thornton
The Phenomenon of Life: Toward a Philosophical Biology by Hans Jonas
The Wholeness of Nature : Goethe's Way Toward a Science of Conscious Participation in Nature by Henri Bortoft
S November 02, 2017 at 20:14 #120892
Quantum Theory: A Very Short Introduction
[I]John Polkinghorne[/I]
S November 03, 2017 at 00:32 #120977
Hmm... this looks complicated:

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Although, I [i]was[/I] warned:

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Streetlight November 03, 2017 at 02:00 #120999
Reply to Sapientia I too, am having a whale of a time over here.

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fdrake November 03, 2017 at 18:53 #121110
Reply to StreetlightX

Enjoying studying stats?
Streetlight November 03, 2017 at 23:59 #121167
Reply to fdrake Surprisingly yes, lol. She's basically using information theory to look at the differing distributions of DNA bases across different subphyla in order to see how measures of informational efficiency - measures of entropy! - can help us shed light on life and evolution. So far anyway. Now about to start a chapter on game theory. It's actually facinating.
fdrake November 04, 2017 at 12:29 #121298
Reply to StreetlightX

What's the book?
Streetlight November 04, 2017 at 12:38 #121301
Lila Gatlin - Information Theory and the Living System
Pierre-Normand November 07, 2017 at 06:29 #122230
Quoting Baden
Didn't have Gulag Archipelago on Kindle. This is pretty good though. Also got a sample of Street's Oyama ontogeny of info recommend.


Gulag Archipelago is autobiographical, of course, and very good. One Day in the Life of Ivan Denisovich is awesome. You might enjoy Cancer Ward, also, which is semi-autobiographical and set towards the end of the Stalinist era.
Pierre-Normand November 07, 2017 at 06:33 #122231
Quoting Marty
John McDowell by Tim Thornton


This is a fantastic introduction to John McDowell's thought. Maximilian de Gaynesford also wrote such an introduction, which is quite good though not as accurate as Thornton's one.
Baden November 07, 2017 at 07:12 #122233
Reply to Pierre-Normand

Cheers, Pierre. (Y)
Marty November 07, 2017 at 07:27 #122235
Reply to Pierre-Normand Cool. I'm actually struggling with this one a bit. Glad to know there's another one to turn to. Either that or I might have to start over.
Streetlight November 09, 2017 at 11:33 #122864
The Invisible Committee - The Coming Insurrection
The Invisible Committee - To Our Friends
ArguingWAristotleTiff November 09, 2017 at 15:15 #122893
Co-Dependent No More
for the fourth time? Fifth time? Aww never mind, I should have it memorized by now.
Aurora November 10, 2017 at 11:24 #123113
Drinking - A love story, by Caroline Knapp
_db November 13, 2017 at 18:03 #123838
Streetlight November 20, 2017 at 08:07 #125812
Christopher DeWolf - Borrowed Spaces: Life Between the Cracks of Modern Hong Kong

A strangely perfect follow-up to my Invisible Committee reads. Perhaps every city in the world needs a book like this.
Streetlight November 27, 2017 at 05:21 #127676
Nick Lane - The Vital Question: Why is Life the Way it Is?
Peter Hoffman - Life's Ratchet: How Molecular Machines Extract Order from Chaos
anonymous66 December 02, 2017 at 23:37 #129450
I'm still working on Anger and Forgiveness by Martha Nussbaum.
And I just started How the Laws of Physics Lie by Nancy Cartwright.
Shawn December 13, 2017 at 04:34 #133164
P.M.S. Hacker, Wittgenstein's Place In Twentieth Century Analytic Philosophy.

This book is intense.
Thorongil December 13, 2017 at 04:36 #133165
Quoting Posty McPostface
This book is intense.


In what way?
Shawn December 13, 2017 at 04:40 #133166
Reply to Thorongil


IDK, just feel that I have to be at a high level of mental exertion to understand what I'm reading most of the time, otherwise my eyes glaze over and I just stare and 'read' the book.

It is about analytic philosophy and Wittgenstein's place in it after all.
Streetlight December 17, 2017 at 13:43 #134465
Scott Wilson - The Order of Joy: Beyond the Cultural Politics of Enjoyment
Daniela Voss - Conditions of Thought: Deleuze and Transcendental Ideas
SnowyChainsaw December 17, 2017 at 18:59 #134517
I just read Imagining the Tenth Dimension, by Rob Bryanton. A curious little tome that helps one visualize ten dimensions and contextualizes them into the omniverse.

At first, i thought talk of higher dimensions was metaphysical nonsense but after reading this (and watching the odd YouTube video about geometry) I realize that, at the very least, imagining the omniverse in ten dimensions could be a useful tool in defining our universe's position in the cosmos.
Have a look see and message me your thoughts:

Imagining 10 dimensions: the movie - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg85IH3vghA
Perfect Shapes In Higher Dimensions - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s4TqVAbfz4
Mitchell December 17, 2017 at 19:05 #134519
Edward Feser, Five Proofs of the Existence of God. Reading "Proof Four" and am still not convinced.
Maw December 18, 2017 at 17:29 #134746
Some books I've read in the last few months:

Melancholy by Laszlo F. Foldenyi (reread)
Paradise Lost by Milton
SPQR by Mary Beard
Ancient Greece by Thomas Martin
The Conquest of Gaul by Julius Caesar
Selected Works by Cicero
The Crusades by Thomas Asbridge
The Retreat of Western Liberalism by Edward Luce
The Once and Future Liberalism by Mark Ilia

I also finally finished the full essays of Montaigne, having started in 2013.
TimeLine December 18, 2017 at 21:46 #134825
Reply to Maw How good is Montaigne' writings on superstition?

Good and Evil: An Absolute Conception, by Raimond Gaita.
Maw December 18, 2017 at 23:21 #134888
Reply to TimeLine

Quite excellent! Despite being a devout Christian, he was nevertheless highly skeptical of many forms of superstition, best demonstrated in his most famous essay, An Apology For Raymond Sebond (although given his many digressions however, it's discussed elsewhere as well).
TimeLine December 19, 2017 at 04:53 #135003
Quoting Maw
Quite excellent! Despite being a devout Christian, he was nevertheless highly skeptical of many forms of superstition, best demonstrated in his most famous essay, An Apology For Raymond Sebond (although given his many digressions however, it's discussed elsewhere as well).


Indeed, which is why he clearly showed that any 'difference' between genders is largely a product of custom and education which, I think, had an influence on Rousseau. He also has that forceful talent with a hint of humour (although I have certainly not read everything of his, just reminiscing what I did many years back now) that gives me that same joyful feeling that Voltaire does. I will try and remember the title of the essay, I am at work now but it is somewhere at home.
Agustino December 19, 2017 at 10:16 #135064
Quoting Maw
full essays of Montaigne

Some of them are good, but some of them are so boring :-d ... I often get lost in his ruminations. No wonder it took you so long to plough through everything.
Streetlight December 19, 2017 at 11:36 #135086
Reply to Maw Well frikkin done (on the Montaigne).
Agustino December 19, 2017 at 11:49 #135089
Quoting TimeLine
How good is Montaigne' writings on superstition?

Most of it is good - my favorite was "On prognostications". It was short, to the point, and impartial. It would actually make a good topic for a thread.
anonymous66 December 19, 2017 at 12:16 #135094
Reading Putnam edited by Maria Baghramian
ConfusedFox December 19, 2017 at 12:48 #135100
Awakening Intelligence by Krisnamutri.

Finding it a bit heavy to be honest, I'm sticking with it though as I feel there's some great lessons in there.
Coldlight December 19, 2017 at 18:15 #135206
I hope it's okay to ask here.

I mostly read books on psychology. Currently going through work of Sigmund Freud.

Also - Stephen Grosz - The Examined Life

I'm not well read in philosophy, so was wondering if anyone could recommend me anything on 'the philosophy of mind', and if possible at least partially related to psychology. I know there are Encyclopedias that capture the main ideas of philosophy of mind, but I was looking for something more specific, and maybe a bit more practical?
Noble Dust December 19, 2017 at 18:27 #135208
Mysticism - Evelyn Underhill
The Divine Invasion - Philip K. Dick
anonymous66 December 19, 2017 at 19:25 #135215
Reply to Coldlight I'm no expert on the mind by any means, and I enjoyed reading David Chalmers' The Conscious Mind and John Searle (I don't remember which book I have.. but this looks good. I just ordered it for myself).

Maw December 22, 2017 at 23:03 #136355
Reply to StreetlightX Thank you kindly ;)
Streetlight December 24, 2017 at 14:31 #136840
Merry Christmas all! Here's the 2017 reading list (*** indicate favourites):

Political Theory

Hannah Arendt - Between Past and Future: Eight Excercises In Political Thought***
Wendy Brown - States of Injury: Power and Freedom in Late Modernity
Wendy Brown - Edgework: Critical Essays on Knowledge and Politics
Wendy Brown - Walled States, Waning Sovereignty
Wendy Brown - Politics out of History
Wendy Brown - Undoing the Demos: Neoliberalism's Stealth Revolution
Alessandro Ferrara - The Force of the Example: Explorations in the Paradigm of Judgement
Raymond Geuss - Philosophy and Real Politics (Reread)
Raymond Geuss - Politics and the Imagination (Reread)***
Raymond Geuss - Outside Ethics
Raymond Geuss - Public Goods, Private Goods
Bonnie Honig - Emergency Politics: Paradox, Law, Democracy
Bonnie Honig - Public Things: Democracy In Disrepair
Bonnie Honig - Political Theory and the Displacement of Politics (reread)
Paul Patton - Deleuze and the Political
Linda Zerilli - A Democratic Theory of Judgement
Linda Zerilli - Feminism and the Abyss of Freedom***

Sociology/Political Science

Ivan Ascher - Portfolio Society: On the Capitalist Mode of Prediction
Melinda Cooper - Life as Surplus: Biotechnology and Capitalism in the Neoliberal Era***
Melinda Cooper - Family Values: Between Neoliberalism and the New Social Conservatism***
Christopher DeWolf - Borrowed Spaces: Life Between the Cracks of Modern Hong Kong
Nikolas Rose - The Politics of Life Itself: Biomedicine, Power, and Subjectivity in the Twenty-First Century
The Invisible Committee - The Coming Insurrection
The Invisible Committee - To Our Friends***
Loic Wacquant - Punishing the Poor: the Neoliberal Government of Social Insecurity

Life/Evolution

Lila Gatlin - Information Theory and the Living System
Peter Hoffman - Life's Ratchet: How Molecular Machines Extract Order from Chaos
Evelyn Fox Keller - Making Sense of Life: Explaining Biological Development with Models, Metaphors, and Machines
Evelyn Fox Keller - The Mirage of a Space Between Nature and Culture
Nick Lane - The Vital Question: Energy, Evolution, and the Origins of Complex Life
Eva Jablonka & Marion Lamb - Evolution in Four Dimensions: Genetic, Epigenetic, Behavioral, and Symbolic Variation in the History of Life***
Dorion Sagan & Eric Schneider - Into the Cool: Energy Flow, Thermodynamics, and Life

Sound/Analogy

Edward Campbell - Music After Deleuze
Aden Evens - Sound Ideas: Music, Machines, and Experience***
Daniel Heller-Roazen - The Fifth Hammer: Pythagoras and the Disharmony of the World
Noah Roderick - The Being of Analogy
Kaja Silverman - Flesh of my Flesh
Eleni Ikoniadou - The Rhythmic Event: Art, Media, and the Sonic

'Theory'

Giorgio Agamben - The End of the Poem: Studies in Poetics
Giorgio Agamben - The Mystery of Evil: Benedict XVI and the End of Days
Maurice Blanchot - The Step Not Beyond
Judith Butler - Antigone's Claim: Kinship Between Life and Death
Colby Dickinson - Words Fail: Theology, Poetry, and the Challenge of Representation
Benjamin Noys - The Persistence of the Negative: A Critique of Contemporary Continental Theory
Scott Wilson - The Order of Joy: Beyond the Cultural Politics of Enjoyment
Catherine Malabou - Before Tomorrow: Epigenesis and Rationality***
Catherine Malabou - Changing Difference: The Question of the Feminine in Philosophyi]
Catherine Mills - The Philosophy of Agamben

Misc.

Hannah Arendt - The Life of the Mind
George Williams and Daniel Reynolds - A Charter of Rights For Australia
Peter Brain and Ian Manning - Credit Code Red: How Financial Deregulation and World Instability are Exposing Australia to Economic Catastrophe
Luciano Floridi - Information: A Very Short Introduction

--

Really happy with this year's reading. Been meaning to revisit both politics and sciences this year, and I think I achieved that. Also super happy with my male/female ratio - this is the possibly the first year I've read as many female authors as I have male ones, which I've been trying to do without success for a few years now. Next year I need to branch out along ethic lines, though I'm not as confident I'll achieve that. Aesthetics, though, is the topic I really want to knock over next year. Have a great year to come everyone!

-

Also, started today:

Hermann Weyl - Symmetry
Streetlight January 02, 2018 at 01:33 #139138
D'Arcy Thompson - On Growth and Form
Adolf Portmann - Animal Forms and Patterns: A Study of the Appearance of Animals
Noble Dust January 02, 2018 at 02:30 #139146
-Daniel C. Matt - The Essential Kabbalah
-The most recent edit of my brother's forthcoming sci-fi novel
_db January 02, 2018 at 03:01 #139149
Dune by Frank Herbert
anonymous66 January 02, 2018 at 07:33 #139200
Gabriel Marcel by Seymour Cain
The Existential Drama of Gabriel Marcel edited by Francis Lescoe
Awakenings by Gabriel Marcel
Noble Dust January 02, 2018 at 07:38 #139201
Reply to anonymous66

Have you read Berdyaev yet? I really think you'd find him interesting.
anonymous66 January 02, 2018 at 14:17 #139285
Reply to Noble Dust
He's on my short list, I promise! Right now I'm working on a project involving Gabriel Marcel.
(I'm listening to this today)
Maw January 05, 2018 at 03:58 #140048
The Heights of Despair by Cioran (rereading)
The Melancholy of Resistance by László Krasznahorkai

Oh I also read Moby-Dick by Melville last year, and I thought that worth mentioning. Absolutely breathtaking.
_db January 12, 2018 at 00:27 #142817
Ethical Intuitionism by Michael Huemer. Now this is some actually-good analytic philosophy.
Streetlight January 16, 2018 at 10:00 #144477
Giorgio Agamben - Taste
Giorgio Agamben - What Is Philosophy?
Streetlight January 19, 2018 at 03:56 #145228
Richard Prum - The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World - And Us
Jakob von Uexküll - A Foray Into the Worlds of Animals and Humans: With A Theory of Meaning
Miguel Sicart - Play Matters
Streetlight January 22, 2018 at 08:58 #146052
Byung-Chul Han - The Agony of Eros
Byung-Chul Han - Shanzhai: Deconstruction in Chinese

A low period at work, so I'm tearing though some shorter works.
_db January 27, 2018 at 07:21 #147275
A Short History of Atheism by Gavin Hyman. Fascinating read.
Maw January 28, 2018 at 00:11 #147456
I've been reading Cioran's oeuvre in chronologically published order. Finished Tears and Saints a week ago and I'm nearly done with A Short History of Decay, which I've long considered his best and most well-written work.

Also rereading The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco. Haven't read it since 2011
Shawn January 28, 2018 at 16:30 #147622
Utopia for Realists: The Case for a Universal Basic Income, Open Borders, and a 15-hour Workweek by Rutger Bregman

Just finished it actually.
Streetlight January 28, 2018 at 17:07 #147634
Reply to Posty McPostface Whaddya think? Sway you on UBI any?
Shawn January 28, 2018 at 17:14 #147635
Quoting StreetlightX
Whaddya think? Sway you on UBI any?


Very persuasive, eloquent, and factual. Couldn't ask for a better book on UBI.
Streetlight January 30, 2018 at 08:08 #148168
Andreas Wagner - Arrival of the Fittest: How Nature Innovates
Ernest Cline - Ready Player One (first fiction book in... months)
Noble Dust February 02, 2018 at 05:29 #148981
Memoirs Found In A Bathtub - Stanislaw Lem

This is some almost-black-comedy/surrealist/horror 1984 shit. Really different; barely even sci-fi.
Pierre-Normand February 04, 2018 at 01:44 #149595
A few interesting things that I am reading or have read this year. Sorry for the bad formatting of references; this is copied from a wikidPad page ('personal wiki'):

2018 February

Walsh Denis M Mechanism, Emergence, and Miscibility: The Autonomy of Evo-Devo
(in Functions: selection and mechanisms, Synthese Library, Studies in Epistemology, Logic, Methodology, and Philosophy of Science vol. 363)
2018-02-03 (currently reading)

Moreno Alvaro (with Xabier Barandiaran) Adaptivity: From Metabolism to Behavior (2008)
2018-02-03 (currently reading)


2018 January

Bechtel William (with Adele Abrahamsen) Mental Mechanisms, Autonomous Systems, and Moral Agency
2018-01-29

Lennox James G Darwin was a Teleologist (1993)
2018-01-28

A theory of biological relativity: no privileged level of causation
2018-01-27

Collins Arthur W The Nature of Mental Things (1986)
2018-01-26 (Second reading of chapter 6: Action and Teleology)

Noble Denis Evolution beyond neo-Darwinism: a new conceptual framework
2018-01-24

Bechtel William Explicating Top-Down Causation Using Networks and Dynamics (2016)
2018-01-24

Bateson Patrick The Nest’s Tale: A reply to Richard Dawkins
2018-01-23

Glenberg Arthur M (with Justin Hayes) Contribution of Embodiment to Solving the Riddle of Infantile Amnesia (2016)
2018-01-22

Sterelny Kim The Evolved Apprentice: How Evolution Made Humans Unique (2012)
2018-01-20 (first two chapters)

Hacker PMS Shame, Embarrassment, and Guilt
Chapter 6 in The Passions: A Study of Human Nature Wiley-Blackwell (2017)
2018-01-19 (unfinished reading)

Sterelny Kim Dawkins Vs. Gould: Survival of the Fittest (2001)
2018-01-16

David Cole's review of The Evolved Apprentice
2018-01-16

Costall Alan From Direct Perception to the Primacy of Action: A Closer Look at James Gibson’s Ecological Approach to Psychology
(Chapter 3 in Theories of Infant Development, Gavin Bremner & Alan Slater eds, 2004)
2018-01-12

A Piecewise Aggregation of (Some) Philosophers' and Biologists' Perspectives (review of Re-engineering Philosophy for Limited Beings by Isabella Sarto-Jackson1, Miles MacLeod, Stephan Handschuh, Christoph Frischer, Julia Lang, Martin Schlumpp and Werner Callebaut)
2018-01-11

Wimsatt William C Re-engineering Philosophy for Limited Beings (2007)
2018-01-10 (first 14 pages only)

Estany Anna (with Sergio Martínez) “Scaffolding” and “affordance” as integrative concepts in the cognitive sciences (2013)
2018-01-09

Wiegman Isaac Angry Rats and Scaredy Cats Lessons from Competing Cognitive Homologies (2016)
2018-01-08
Pierre-Normand February 04, 2018 at 01:49 #149599
Here are also most of my readings from last year, since February 2017 when I began reading and annotating pdf files mostly on my smartphone :

2017 December

SterelnyK Artifacts, Symbols, Thoughts
2017-12-31

CostallA The 'Meme' Meme Revisited
(Chapter 4 in Epistemological Dimensions of Evolutionary Psychology, Thiemo Breyer, Ed. 2015)
2017-12-11

MenaryR Cognitive integration, enculturated cognition and the socially extended mind (2013)
2017-12-31

SmitH Darwin’s Rehabilitation of Teleology Versus Williams’ Replacement of Teleology by Natural Selection (2011)
2017-12-01 (approximative date)


2017 November

KirchhoffMD Extended Cognition & the Causal-Constitutive Fallacy: In Search for a Diachronic and Dynamical Conception of Constitution (2015)
2017-11-23

PankseppJ (with Biven) The Archaeology of Mind
2017-11-28 (unfinished reading)

DennettD A Difference That Makes a Difference _Edge.org_
2017-11-17 (A conversation with Daniel Dennett)

GiuntiM (Simone Pinna) Toward a dynamical theory of human computation
2017-11-17 (unfinished reading)

PankseppJ (with peer commentaries in B&BS) Toward a general psychobiological theory of emotions
2017-11-13 (unfinished reading)

StoffregenTA Affordances Are Enough: Reply to Chemero et al.
2017-11-09 (First section only)

HackerPMS The Conceptual Framework for the Investigation of Emotions
(in Emotions and Understanding Wittgensteinian Perspectives, Ylva Gustafsson, Camilla Kronqvist and Michael McEachrane eds (2009)
2017-11-07

HackerPMS (with BennettM) Criminal Law as It Pertains to Patients Suffering from Psychiatric Diseases 2011
2017-11-09

HardcastleVG (with C. Matthew Stewart) What Do Brain Data Really Show? (2002)
2017-11-21

CostallA Socializing Affordances (1995)
2017-11-13

WellsAJ Cognitive Science and the Turing Machine: an Ecological Perspective
in Alan Turing_ Life and Legacy of a Great Thinker-Springer-Verlag Berlin Heidelberg (2004)
2017-11-20

WellsAJ Gibson’s Affordances and Turing’s Theory of Computation
2017-11-19 (partially read)

WilsonRA Boundaries of the Mind: The Individual in the Fragile Sciences (2004)
2017-11-20 (Second reasing of some sections)

BarrettL Beyond the Brain: How Body and Environment Shape Animal and Human Minds (2011)
2017-11-25

BechtelW Explanation: Mechanism, Modularity, and Situated Cognition
2017-11-22

RollsET (with peer commentaries in B&BS) Précis of The brain and emotion
2017-11-13 (unfinished reading)

SmitH Inclusive Fitness Theory and the Evolution of Mind
and Language (2016)
2017-11-22

SandelMJ Justice: What's the Right Thing to Do (2010)
2017-11-07 (chapter 9)


2017 October

CostallA From Darwin to Watson (and Cognitivism) and Back Again: The Principle of Animal-Environment Mutuality (2004)
2017-10-12

BarrettLF The Future of Psychology: Connecting Mind to Brain (2010)
2017-10-03

SmitH Popper and Wittgenstein on the Metaphysics
of Experience (2015)
2017-10-15

RollsET Emotion and decision making explained (2013)
2017-10-19 (read some sections only)

SmitH The Social Evolution of Human Nature: From Biology to Language (2014)
2017-10-26

ScrutonR My Brain and I (2014)
2017-10-14

PankseppJ How to Undress the Affective Mind An Interview with Jaak Panksepp
2017-10-19

LoveAC Hierarchy, causation and explanation: ubiquity, locality and pluralism
2017-10-05 (must reread)

LanceM (with WhiteWH) Stereoscopic Vision Persons, Freedom, and Two Spaces of Material Inference
2017-10-12

HackerPMS (with BennettM) Chapter 7 on emotions, in Philosophical Foundations of Neuroscience
2017-09-28 (second reading)

BoullierDG Le danger du "débat" lancé par Bronner et Gehin sur les sociologies (2017)
2017-10-11


2017 September

PankseppJ Exchange with BarrettLF and IzardCE:

1- BarrettLF Are Emotions Natural Kinds (2006)
2017-09-25

2a- PankseppJ Neurologizing the Psychology of Affecs (2007)
2017-09-29

2b- IzardCE Basic Emotions, Natural Kinds, Emotion Schemas, and a New Paradigm (2007)
2017-09-26 (unfinished reading)

3- BarrettLF et al. Of Mice and Men: A Response to Panksepp and Izard (2007)
2017-09-28

4- PankseppJ Cognitive Conceptualism - Where Have All the Affects Gone (2008)
2017-09-29

5- BarrettLF & LindquistKA Corrections to Panksepp (2008)
2017-09-29

IsmaelJ Interview by Andres Lomena Cantos about How Physics Makes Us Free
2017-09-10

IsmaelJ Freedom and Determinism, chapter 5 in How Physics Makes Us Free
2017-09-10

IsmaelJ From Physical Time to Human Time, chapter 6 in How Physics Makes Us Free
2017-09-12

IsmaelJ Decision and the Open Future, chapter 8 in Adrian Bardon (ed.) The Future of the Philosophy of Time - Routledge (2011)
2017-09-14

BarrettLF (With Kristen A Lindquist) A functional architecture of the human brain: emerging insights from the science of emotion (2012)
2017-09-30

BlackmanR Why Compatibilists Need Alternative Possibilities (2015)
2017-09-04

AlbertDZ Time and Chance (2008)
Chapter 6: The Asymmetries of Knowledge and Intervention
2017-09-17

KhooJ Backtracking counterfactuals, revisited
2017-09-19

MenziesP The Consequence Argument Disarmed: An Interventionist Perspective
in Beebee, Hitchcock, Price (eds) Making a difference: Essays on the philosophy of causation - OUP (2017)
2017-09-10

PankseppJ (workshop with Stephen Asma, Glennon Curran, Rami Gabriel & Thomas Greif) The Philosophical Implications of Affective Neuroscience (2010)
2017-09-20

RestallG A cut-free sequent system for two-dimensional modal logic, and why it matters (2010)
2017-09-17


2017 August

ShafferJ Causal Contextualism
2017-08-28 Chapter 2 in BlauuwM (ed) Contrastivism in Philosophy

SinnottArmstrongW Free Contrastivism
Chapter 7 in BlauuwM (ed) Contrastivism in Philosophy
2017-08-31

SmallW Practical Knowledge and the Structure of Action
Chapter in Abel & Conant eds. Rethinking Epistemology Volume 2 (2012)
2017-08-14

HitchcockC Contrastive Explanation
2017-08-25 Chapter 1 in BlauuwM (ed) Contrastivism in Philosophy

HornsbyJ A Disjunctive Conception of Acting for Reasons
Chapter 10 in Macpherson and Haddock ed. Disjunctivism: Action, Perception, Knowledge
2017-08-04 (second reading)

HornsbyJ Knowledge How in Philosophy of Action (2017)
2017-08-03

BlauuwM (ed) Contrastivism in Philosophy - Routledge (2013)
2017-08-31 Introduction

FrostK Action as the exercise of a two-way power
2017-08-18 Second reading


2017 July

ClarkeR Dispositions, Abilities to Act, and Free Will: The New Dispositionalism - clarke2009
2017-07-14

SmallW Agency and Practical Abilities
2017-07-27

SøvikAO (partial reading) Free Will, Causality and the Self
2017-07-22

SmithM Rational Capacities, or: How to Distinguish Recklessness, Weakness, and Compulsion
Chapter 1 in Stroud & Tappolet eds. Weakness of Will and Practical Irrationality OUP (2003)
2017-07-06

TuckerC Agent Causation and the Alleged Impossibility of Rational Free Action
2017-07-20

VihvelinK Free Will Demystified: A Dispositional Account
2017-07-11

WallerBN A Metacompatibilist Account of Free Will, Making Compatibilists and Incompatibilists More Compatible
2017-07-20

StewardH Action as Downward Causation
2017-07-21

KannistoT Freedom as a Kind of Causality
2017-07-18

MarcusE (second reading) Events and States
Chapter 5 in Rational Causation HUP (2012)
2017-07-12

LeviDonS The Trouble with Harry
2017-07-08


2017 June

RankinWK Ifs as Labels on Cans
2017-06-13

Carl Ginet's review of Rankin's Choice and Chance
2017-06-12

SchmidtJH Newcomb's Paradox Realized with Backward Causation
2017-06-10

SpohnW Reversing 30 years of discussion: why causal decision theorists should one-box
2017-06-06

RottschaeferWA The Biology and Psychology of Moral Agency
Chapter 7: The neurophysiological bases of moral capacities: Does neurophysiology have room for moral agents?
2017-06-01

SainsburyRM Paradoxes CUP (Section on Newcomb's Probelm)
2017-06-08

AyersMR Reviews of The Refutation of Determinism by

Elizabeth Telfer (review of TROD)
2017-06-12

John W Yolton (review of TROD)
2017-06-12

K W Rankin (review of TROD)
2017-06-12

BerowskyB
Curd's review of Freedom From Necessity: The Metaphysical Basis of Responsibility
2017-06-17

John Martin Fischer's of Freedom From Necessity
2017-06-17

Widerker and Katzoff's review of Freedom From Necessity
2017-06-18

Mark Ravizza's review of Freedom From Necessity
2017-06-19

MayrE (Erasmus) Understanding Human Agency OUP (2011)
2017-06-22 to 2017-07-18

Stewart Goetz's review of Understanding Human Agency
2017-05-23

CraigWL Divine Foreknowledge and Newcomb's Paradox
(Only re-read the beginning on 2017-06-08 but found references therein to interesting one-boxing papers by GrandyRE and GalloisA)
2017-06-08

FaraM Masked Abilities and Compatibilism (2008)
2017-06-21

SpohnW Reversing 30 years of discussion: why causal decision theorists should one-box
2017-06-06

SobelJH Critical Notice John Martin Fischer, The Metaphysics of Free Will
2017-06-03

SobelJH Puzzles for the Will, chaper 2 -- Predicted Choices
2017-06-04 (About Newcomb's problem)

MenziesP (with Huw Price) Causation as a Secondary Quality (1993)
2017-06-02 (unfinished reading)

NoonanHW Two-Boxing is Irrational
2017-06-05

RobertsonLH The infected self: Revisiting the metaphor of the mind virus (2017)
2017-06-16

GrandyRE What the Well-Wisher didn't Know
2017-06-10

GalloisA How Not to Make a Newcomb Choice
2017-06-09

BurgessS The Newcomb Problem: an Unqualified Rresolution (2004)
2017-06-05

AltshulerR Character, Will, and Agency
2017-06-02

BishopJ Is Agent-Causation a Conceptual Primitive
2017-06-18


2017 May

VargasM Precis of Building Better Beings
2017-05-16

Tamler Sommers' review of Building Better Beings
2017-05-16 (To be revised; the NDR of his book BBB seems to be missing the first part)

Desert, responsibility, and justification: a reply to Doris, McGeer, and Robinson
2017-05-17 (Incomplete reading)

MumfordS (with AnjumRL) Freedom and Control: On the Modality of Free Will
2017-05-04

(with AnjumRL) Getting Causes from Powers (2011)
2017-05-15 (second reading, first chapter)

Powers, Non-Consent and Freedom
2017-05-07

ThalosM The gulf between practical and theoretical reason
2017-05-25 (Incomplete reading)

(Also read two reviews of her book: Without Hierarchy, 2017-05-24)

ListC Non-Reductive Physicalism and the Limits of the Exclusion Principle
2017-05-28

Free Will, Determinism, and the Possibility of Doing Otherwise
2017-05-30

What's wrong with the consequence argument
2017-05-31

DorisJM Doing without (arguing about) desert
2017-05-16 (Comment about Vargas' Building Better Beings)

McGeerV Building a better theory of responsibility
(Comment on Vargas' Building Better Beings)
2017-05-16

MerricksT Against the Doctrine of Microphysical Supervenience
2017-05-15

MooreD Supervenient Emergentism and Mereological Emergentism
2017-05-13

MeleAR Weakness of Will
in 'Donald Davidson', Kirk Ludwig ed. (2003)
2017-05-24

BishopRC The Hidden Premise in the Causal Argument for Physicalism
2017-05-10

BalaguerM A Coherent, Naturalistic, and Plausible Formulation of Libertarian Free Will
2017-05-18

LavinD Action as a form of temporal unity: on Anscombe’s Intention
2017-05-21

RigatoMJ Reductionism, Agency and Free Will
2017-05-08

RigatoMJ The Agent as Her Self
2017-05-09

RobinsonM Revisionism, libertarianism, and naturalistic plausibility
2017-05-16 (Comment on Vargas' Building Better Beings)

SpeakD Review of Four Wiews on Free-Will in NDPR
2017-05-18


2017 April

DeWallF Primates and Philosophers: How Morality Evolved
with Robert Wright, Christine M. Korsgaard, Philip Kitcher and Peter Singer, EDITED AND INTRODUCED BY Stephen Macedo and Josiah Ober (2006)
2017-04-07

Andrew McAninch's review of Primates and Philosophers
2017-04-06

Zed Adams' review of Primates and Philosophers
2017-04-06

Wade L. Robison's review of Primates and Philosophers
2017-04-06

AllaisL Manifest Reality: Kant’s Idealism and his Realism
Chapter 3: Things in Themselves Without Noumena
2017-04-22

BainJ Emergence in Effective Field Theories
2017-04-08

CrowtherK Decoupling emergence and reduction in physics (2013)
2017-04-10

GlymourC Android Epistemology for Babies: Reflection on Words, Thoughts and Theories (2000)
2017-04-27

KlaymanJ (with Young-Won Ha) Confirmation, Disconfirmation, and Information in Hypothesis Testing (1987)
2017-04-29

StanovichKE (with Richard F. West and Maggie E. Toplak) Intelligence and Rationality (Chapter 39 in the Cambridge Hanbook of Intelligence) (2011)
2017-04-28

HaackS Just Say "No" to Logical Negativism
chapter 12 in Putting Philosophy to Work: Inquiry and its Place in Culture
2017-04-26


2017 March

WeinbergS Reductionism Redux
Chapter 10 in Facing Up: Science and its Cultural Adversaries
2017-03-24

GroffRP Agents, Powers and Events: Humeanism and the Free Will Debate
Chapter 6 in Ontology Revisited Metaphysics in Social and Political Philosophy (2012)
2017-03-15

GroffRP Sublating the free will problematic: powers, agency and causal determination (2016)
2017-03-16

GroffRP Causal Mechanisms and the Philosophy of Causation (2016)
2017-03-19

BauerN A Peculiar Intuition: Kant's Conceptualist Account of Perception (2012)
2017-03-09

BauerN Kant's Subjective Deduction
2017-03-10

BitbolM (with Pierre Kerszberg and Jean Petitot eds) Constituting Objectivity: Transcendental Perspectives on Modern Physics (2009)
Introduction
2017-03-26 (or earlier)

BitbolM Decoherence and the Constitution of Objectivity
in Constituting Objectivity: Transcendental Perspectives on Modern Physics (2009)
2017-03-26 (or earlier)

DeutshD Constructor theory (2013)
2017-03-16 (incomplete reading)

MayrErnst Analysis or Reductionism
Chapter 10 in What Makes Biology Unique? Considerations on the autonomy of a scientific discipline (2004)
2017-03-24

MacbethD Responses to Brassier Redding and Wolfsdorf (2017)
(response to comments on her book Realizing Reason)
2017-03-01

RödlS Roedl Law as the Reality of the Free Will
2017-03-09

BonioloG Chapter 9 - Laws of Nature: The Kantian Approach (2009)
in Constituting Objectivity: Transcendental Perspectives on Modern Physics
2017-03-26 (or earlier)

HarréR Chapter 6: The Transcendental Domain of Physics (2009)
in Constituting Objectivity Transcendental Perspectives on Modern Physics
2017-03-26 (or earlier)

KauarkLeiteP Chapter 10: The Transcendental Role of the Principle of Anticipations of Perception in Quantum Mechanics (2009)
in Constituting Objectivity Transcendental Perspectives on Modern Physics
2017-03-26 (or earlier)


2017 February

BitbolM Quantum Mechanics as Generalised Theory of Probabilities (2014)
2017-02-22

EarleyJE Three Concepts of Chemical Closure and their Epistemological Significance (2010)
2017-02-23

EllisG How Can Physics Underlie the Mind: Top-Down Causation in the Human
Context (2014)
2017-02-11 (First chapter: Complexity and Emergence)

FeserE From Aristotle to John Searle and Back Again: Formal Causes, Teleology, and Computation in Nature (2016)
2017-02-21

HarréR (with Steen Brock) Nature’s affordances and formation length:
The ontology of quantum physical experiments (2016)
2017-02-21

PihlströmS Kant and Pragmatism
2017-02-24 (skipped third section)
Streetlight February 06, 2018 at 07:57 #150438
Reply to Pierre-Normand Aaah so much interesting looking stuff here! Got a top 3?

Current:

Elizabeth Grosz - Time Travels: Feminism, Nature, Power (rereading)
Elizabeth Grosz - Becoming Undone: Darwinian Reflections on Life, Politics, and Art
Pierre-Normand February 06, 2018 at 09:06 #150460
Quoting StreetlightX
Aaah so much interesting looking stuff here! Got a top 3?


Selecting only three would be tough but I'll limit myself to the five items that I judged to be outstanding. As you may guess, I've been quite impressed with Alan Costall who I only discovered recently thanks to Louise Barrett having referenced him in her book Beyond the Brain: How Body and Environment Shape Animal and Human Minds.

---

Bitbol Michel, Decoherence and the Constitution of Objectivity
in Constituting Objectivity: Transcendental Perspectives on Modern Physics (2009)

Bauer Nathan, A Peculiar Intuition: Kant's Conceptualist Account of Perception (2012)

Costall Alan, From Darwin to Watson (and Cognitivism) and Back Again: The Principle of Animal-Environment Mutuality (2004)

Costall Alan, The 'Meme' Meme Revisited
(Chapter 4 in Epistemological Dimensions of Evolutionary Psychology, Thiemo Breyer, Ed. 2015)

Costall Alan, From Direct Perception to the Primacy of Action: A Closer Look at James Gibson’s Ecological Approach to Psychology
(Chapter 3 in Theories of Infant Development, Gavin Bremner & Alan Slater eds, 2004)
Maw February 15, 2018 at 02:12 #153049
Has there been any interesting trends/developments in philosophy within the last few years? Speculative realism (while not a movement per say), produced some interesting philosophers, but nothing interesting has come out of it in several years, least not on my radar. Looking to start something fresh and novel.
Agustino February 17, 2018 at 13:48 #154040
Any good book of comparative religion between Christianity and Buddhism? (I am mostly interesting in something that has a philosophical side to it, mostly from the Thomist perspective) Thanks.
SpacedOut February 17, 2018 at 17:31 #154101
Wittgenstein's Tractatus and Merleau-Ponty's Phenomenology of Perception. Also, Stephen King'sFrom a Buick 8 which is about a magical car that poops out cabbage-smelling aliens.
Noble Dust February 17, 2018 at 22:56 #154169
The Transmigration of Timothy Archer - Philip K Dick ... :-#
Prologemena To Any Future Metaphysics - Kant
The End Of Our Time - Berdyaev
Agustino February 18, 2018 at 10:39 #154358
Quoting Noble Dust
Prologemena To Any Future Metaphysics - Kant

Awww, poor you, you just spent some hours reading a text that may not be relevant anymore in light of non-Euclidean geometry ;)
Noble Dust February 18, 2018 at 21:02 #154447
Reply to Agustino

I read in several places that it was a good intro to the Critique of Pure Reason, and since I have a lot of other stuff to read, I figured it would be a good crash course, and then I'll get to the Critique in the future. No?
Agustino February 18, 2018 at 21:06 #154448
Quoting Noble Dust
I read in several places that it was a good intro to the Critique of Pure Reason, and since I have a lot of other stuff to read, I figured it would be a good crash course, and then I'll get to the Critique in the future. No?

My comment was more tongue-in-cheek with reference to this thread:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/2871/what-would-kant-have-made-of-non-euclidan-geomety/p1

Having read both, I don't particularly think the Prolegomena is better than the Critique to start with, though many have thought that. I think the Critique is quite thorough if you go slowly - Kant explains how he uses his terms throughout. I personally found the Prolegomena more confusing than not, and personally, I found the Critique harder, not easier to understand afterwards, since I had some judgements based on the Prolegomena that ended up being erroneous in light of the Critique.
Noble Dust February 18, 2018 at 21:08 #154451
Reply to Agustino

Fair enough, noted. The intro to my copy outlines exactly where to go to get the gist of the Critique, so I'll follow that. I just don't have time for the Critique right now, my interests are too broad.
Agustino February 18, 2018 at 21:11 #154453
Quoting Noble Dust
Fair enough, noted. The intro to my copy outlines exactly where to go to get the gist of the Critique, so I'll follow that. I just don't have time for the Critique right now, my interests are too broad.

Hmm, I see. Then you're more likely going to enjoy literature atm I think, since the Critique (and the Prolegomena pretty much) go step by step, discussing subject after subject in depth.

Prolegomena goes straight to addressing how is mathematics possible, how is science possible and then how is metaphysics possible. That's it's structure, pretty much.

The Critique explains this whole journey in a lot more detail and shows how it actually happens.
Noble Dust February 18, 2018 at 21:14 #154455
Reply to Agustino

I'm interested in all of that, but I don't have time for it right now. I have enough discipline to get through the Prolegomena. But that's about it :P
fdrake February 18, 2018 at 21:46 #154463
Been reading through Jared Diamond's anthropological work, following it up with Debt by David Graeber. I think this is completing my late teenage Marxist deprogramming - better follow it up by finishing 'Society of the Spectacle' and making a thread about it.
Maw February 27, 2018 at 17:15 #157363
Evidence and Inquiry by Susan Haack
History and Utopia by Cioran (rereading)

Shawn February 27, 2018 at 17:50 #157370
Rereading Nel Nodding's Happiness and Education.

Oh, how I yearn for her philosophy of education to become manifest.
Pierre-Normand February 27, 2018 at 19:55 #157406
Quoting Maw
Evidence and Inquiry by Susan Haack
History and Utopia by Cioran (rereading)


I much enjoyed Haack's paper Just Say 'No' to Logical Negativism. I share her profound dissatisfaction with Popper's falsificationism. She seems to have already expressed some of her critical arguments against falsificationism in Evidence and Inquiry (I merely browsed it). A minor criticism that I may have is that she doesn't have a clear view of the possibility of a disjuctivist epistemology as a fallibilist alternative to falsificationism. She seems not to distinguish fallible epistemic grounds (or defeasible criteria, as they're also called), from fallible epistemic abilities. To be fair, almost everyone working in epistemology makes this unfortunate conflation.
Pierre-Normand February 27, 2018 at 20:07 #157410
Quoting fdrake
Been reading through Jared Diamond's anthropological work, following it up with Debt by David Graeber. I think this is completing my late teenage Marxist deprogramming - better follow it up by finishing 'Society of the Spectacle' and making a thread about it.


Thanks for drawing my attention to Graeber. If you've enjoyed Diamond's anthropological work (I've only read Guns, Germs and Steel, and maybe a couple chapters from The Third Chimpanzee), maybe you'll also find interesting Sterelny's The Evolved Apprentice, which I mentioned above. (I'm currently midway into the third chapter). It reaches deeper into the past than does Diamond's Guns but it articulates a conceptually overlapping framework for understanding the origins of culture.
fdrake February 27, 2018 at 20:46 #157419
Reply to Pierre-Normand

It sounds good! Bah. I have so much to read.
Pierre-Normand February 27, 2018 at 21:02 #157423
Reply to fdrake I hear you. For each item that I read, ten more join my reading list. (I've learned in my probability theory class, though, that there is a way to add 10 new beads in a jar, and only draw one out at random, at each step, and end up with with an empty jar after countably infinitely many steps.)
Streetlight March 03, 2018 at 03:41 #158403
Raymond Ruyer - Neofinalism
Elizabeth Grosz - The Incorporeal: Ontology, Ethics, and the Limits of Materialism

Turns out, holidays are not as great for reading time as I thought. Brought 4 books with me and only got through one. Too busy eating and playing in beaches. It's a hard life.
Maw March 03, 2018 at 06:43 #158408
Reply to StreetlightX I keep trying to read Ethics, Sophistry, and the Alternate Universe on my holidays, but something always gets in the way.
_db March 03, 2018 at 08:28 #158412
God Without Being by Jean-Luc Marion.
Hanover March 03, 2018 at 16:22 #158505
Picked up a Skeptic magazine. Interesting read. A lot of pretty well written anti-PoMo articles and good articles on PC issues. I had never run across this magazine before. I suppose the journal is atheistic, so I can't buy into it all, but overall good (even had an anti-Cartesian dualism article that I endured).
Akanthinos March 04, 2018 at 01:51 #158629
Finished The Myth of Sisyphus, Camus
&
The Trial, Kafka

Starting Writing and Difference, Derrida, translation by Alan Bass
_db March 07, 2018 at 01:54 #159493
The Body in Pain: The Making and Unmaking of the World by Elaine Scarry.
Maw March 07, 2018 at 01:57 #159496
Reply to darthbarracuda Let me know how this is, it's been siting in my Amazon cart for a while.

_db March 07, 2018 at 01:57 #159497
Reply to Maw Will do!
Streetlight March 07, 2018 at 02:03 #159498
I've read the first two chapters of that Scarry book (out of four) and they - along with Alphonso Lingis's "Carrion Body, Carrion Utterance" - set me permanently against the use of torture. It's some of the most powerful phenomenology I've ever read.
_db March 07, 2018 at 02:06 #159499
Reply to StreetlightX So far I have to agree, and I'm only through the introduction. Scarry has a powerful talent for writing. I'm excited for this one.
_db March 11, 2018 at 19:51 #161133
Recently finished:

A Short History of Atheism by Gavin Hyman (very good, recommended).

Ethical Intuitionism by Michael Huemer

The Birth and Death of Meaning by Ernest Becker (re-read).

Currently reading:

The Body in Pain - The Making and Unmaking of the World by Elaine Scarry

Dune by Frank Herbert (re-read).

God Without Being by Jean-Luc Marion

Anxious to begin reading:

The Cambridge Companion to Aquinas edited by Norman Kretzmann and Eleonore Stump

Emmanuel Levinas - The Genealogy of Ethics by John Llewelyn

The Winds of Winter by George R. R. Martin (come on, man, finish the book!)
Maw March 16, 2018 at 14:12 #162635
The Fall Into Time by E.M. Cioran (Rereading)
Seibo There Below by Laszlo Krasznahorkai

Krasznahorkai is arguably one of the most important living writers.
_db March 23, 2018 at 23:22 #166019
On Suicide - A Discourse on Voluntary Death by Jean Amery.

Have been intrigued by Amery for a while now. He writes gently and without an air of pomposity, which I thoroughly appreciate. From the introduction:

"The essays of On Suicide explore the subject in a rambling, frankly subjective, and openly hesitant effort to provide illumination, their aim being "not to make a bold description of the act," as Amery writes, "but rather to strive for a gentle and cautious approach to it."

[...]

Amery's style of argument has been described by Lothar Baier as a "doubting generosity" that seeks to avoid the attitude of one who is convinced he must be right.

[...]

These characteristics [of Mann and Bernhard] mark Amery's style and method: the 'gentle posture,' the language of doubt and skepticism without relativism, the inclusion of emotion in thinking, the urge to pursue problems outside of their social existence, and the attempt to be as honest as possible."
Streetlight March 25, 2018 at 15:58 #166429
Wilfrid Sellars - Naturalism and Ontology
Wilfrid Sellars - Science, Perception, and Reality

Reply to darthbarracuda I've read some of Amery's book on the holocaust, and it was, as far as books on the holocaust go, really good stuff. Plan to go back and finish it at some point.
_db April 06, 2018 at 00:34 #169805
The Meaning and End of Religion by Wilfred Cantwell Smith

An Interpretation of Religion: Human Responses to the Transcendent by John Hick
Corvus April 07, 2018 at 20:48 #170214
Hegel's

Lectures on the Philosophy of Religion vol.1
Maw April 09, 2018 at 16:44 #170702
Dark Money by Jane Mayer
The Trouble With Being Born by Cioran (rereading)
Noble Dust April 14, 2018 at 08:58 #171796
Lilith - George MacDonald

Third time trying to get through this pre-Tolkien pseudo-fantasy/fairy-tale epic. It's actually crazy philosophical. Crazy ontological questions posed with no apparent answers in sight. Published in 1895.
Streetlight April 17, 2018 at 11:35 #172498
Quoting StreetlightX
Wilfrid Sellars - Science, Perception, and Reality


I've finally come to the doorstep of the famous Empiricism and Philosophy of Mind essay in this book. I remember giving it a go a few years ago - in a reading group of the old PF if I recall! - and found it almost entirely incomprehensible. I'm actually a couple of pages in and it's actually readable this time around :gasp:
Hanover April 18, 2018 at 17:44 #172744
Just ordered The Clock Repair Primer: The Beginner's Handbook by Phillip E. Balcomb. I got my grandfather's old mechanical time clock he used at his store (not to be confused with a grandfather's clock) and have developed this interest in clock repair. Anyone here familiar with that? It seems like an old man sort of thing to do to tinker around with clocks, but I've got this fascination now.
Streetlight April 24, 2018 at 09:24 #173662
I left my Sellars book at a work function :cry: Just started to reread Empiricism and Philosophy of Mind too :broken:

Until (if?) I get it back -

Daniela Voss - Conditions of Thought: Deleuze and Transcendental Ideas
Baden April 24, 2018 at 10:28 #173667
Reply to StreetlightX

The Freudian in me says your subconscious may have done that to you. I bet you don't pay too much heed to Freud. The Freudian in me says your subconscious does though. The Freudian in me still hasn't explained why I pay any attention to the Freudian in me. Mysterious.

Streetlight April 24, 2018 at 11:33 #173671
Reply to Baden The answer is obvious!:

[hide="Reveal"]Ya mum.[/hide]
Maw April 24, 2018 at 14:33 #173686
A Hero Born by Jin Yong
Drawn and Quartered by Cioran (rereading)
syntax April 24, 2018 at 21:51 #173719
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critique_of_Cynical_Reason


pretty great so far...
Noble Dust May 01, 2018 at 03:49 #175058
A Voyage To Arcturus - David Lindsay

Proto-modern-fantasy at it's finest.
Streetlight May 02, 2018 at 11:31 #175399
Noah Moss Brender - The Meaning of Life: A Merleau-Pontian Investigation of How Living Bodies Make Sense [link]
Matija Jela?a - The Problem of Representation in Gilles Deleuze and Wilfrid Sellars [link]

Read both of these recently, both unpublished PhD theses, both fantastic, and I'm insanely jealous of Brender's dissertation which is more or less the kind of thing I wish I'd written. Also just started:

Bob Clark - Wittgenstein, Mathematics, and World
BC May 02, 2018 at 15:52 #175450
What have I been reading... The Origins of the Urban Crisis: Race and Inequality in Postwar Detroit; Designing Detroit: Wirt Rowland the rise of Modern American Architecture; Once a Great City: A Detroit Story; Behemoth: A History of the Factory and the Making of the Modern World; Staying Alive: the 1970s and the Last Days of the Working Class.

Barbara Tuchman's The Proud Tower: A portrait of the World before the War, 1890-1914;

Too Much Magic: Wishful Thinking, Technology, and the Fate of the Nation (Kunstler); Dark Age America: Climate Change, Cultural Collapse and the hard future ahead (Greer);

O'Donnell's Ruin of the Roman Empire, a New History; The Romanovs: 1613-1918.
fdrake May 02, 2018 at 16:32 #175462
Work gets busier, no headspace left to read. Still working through Debt by David Graeber.
_db May 08, 2018 at 17:01 #176750
The Divided Self (An Existential Study in Sanity and Madness) by R. D. Laing.

"When I certify someone insane, I am not equivocating when I write that he is of unsound mind, may be dangerous to himself and others, and requires care and attention in a mental hospital. However, at the same time, I am also aware that, in my opinion, there are other people who are regarded as sane, whose minds are as radically unsound, who may be equally or more dangerous to themselves and others and whom society does not regard as psychotic and fit persons to be in a madhouse. I am aware that the man who is said to be deluded may be in his delusion telling me the truth, and this in no equivocal or metaphorical sense, but quite literally, and that the cracked mind of the schizophrenic may let in light which does not enter the intact minds of many sane people whose minds are closed. Ezekiel, in Jaspers's opinion, was a schizophrenic."
Deleteduserrc May 08, 2018 at 20:19 #176784
Reply to darthbarracuda :up:

Right now for me:
Self Portrait in a Convex Mirror - John Ashbery (really really good)
& just starting: Against the Grain: a deep history of the earliest states James C Scott
Streetlight May 09, 2018 at 05:20 #176843
Anne Sauvagnargues - Deleuze and Art
Anne Sauvagnargues - Artmachines: Deleuze, Guattari, Simondon
Deleteduserrc May 09, 2018 at 21:57 #177120
@StreetlightX Have you read any James C Scott? Interestingly, he's referenced Deleuze in a few more recent books, though his approach is generally sober academic history re: the history of the State (tho motivated, clearly, by a particular passion.). I wish I had the passage at hand, but he talks about state control in one Asian country (I wanna say Indonesia but not sure) and the way he discusses it (plainly, directly) - I was like, oh shit, this is exactly smooth versus striated space + apparatus of capture. My hunch is that this was before he encountered Deleuze too, but I can't be sure.
Streetlight May 10, 2018 at 03:02 #177155
Reply to csalisbury Nah, but he's been on my radar since Against the Grain came out last year(?). The bloke you liked to a while back (on Gri Gri magic) wrote a bit about him too, and I read alot of his stuff. Definitely someone I want to look into when I can.
Deleteduserrc May 12, 2018 at 20:12 #177752
Reply to StreetlightX He's really good and fun (lots of juicy historical details that he tells entertainingly) - tho, if you've read Sam[]zdat's 'Uruk Machines' series, you probably know all the central points already. But still worth it for the little things. (I would love to do a post on The Last Psychiatrist/Sam[]zdat/Hotel Concierge, if there were enough posters here who were familiar. I'm very much enamored of their approach and style: (see [ self-referential]). But there's something hard and mean and uncompromising that doesn't sit right with me. I guess they do something with cleverness that parallels what nihilism does with concepts. They take it all the way to the edge, which is great, but then something has to fill that gap.
Moliere May 20, 2018 at 18:52 #180419
I picked up AB Dickerson's Kant on Representation and Objectivity -- it's an argument that Kant is a particular kind of representationalist that is unique to his philosophy based upon his reading of the B-Deduction. It's been good so far, especially because the deduction is just so hard to understand.
_db May 21, 2018 at 19:06 #180763
Evolutionary Biology (Third Edition), by Douglas J. Futuyma. Got it cheap and used, good deal.

Thanks for the recommendation, Reply to Mariner .
Maw May 23, 2018 at 20:37 #181492
The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism From Edmund Burke to Donald Trump by Corey Robin
Satantango by László Krasznahorkai
Streetlight May 29, 2018 at 12:27 #183363
Ronald Bogue - Deleuze on Music, Painting, and the Arts
Wilfrid Sellars - Science, Perception, and Reality (replacement copy for the last one I lost in the middle of reading!)
Srap Tasmaner May 30, 2018 at 03:43 #183558
Quoting StreetlightX
Ronald Bogue


Took a class from him in college. I remember once, hanging around his office talking, I mentioned I had just started reading Deleuze's book on Foucault and he said immediatley -- you know, sort of involuntarily -- "That's a beautiful book!" Then he looked embarrassed. I think he wanted to be careful not to push me in any particular direction, you know?
Streetlight May 31, 2018 at 03:04 #183932
Reply to Srap Tasmaner Lol, that's super cute.
Maw June 06, 2018 at 21:10 #186115
Stamped From The Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X. Kendi
The Trial by Kafka
The Attention Merchants: The Epic Scramble to Get Inside Our Heads by Tim Wu

_db June 07, 2018 at 20:22 #186340
Eight Theories of Religion by Daniel L. Pals. I wanted the third edition - Nine Theories - but someone else had checked it out.

Still reading:

The Meaning and End of Religion by Wilfred Cantwell Smith

On Suicide by Jean-Luc Amery

and lots of Lovecraft's supernatural horror stories. Everything else has been put on hold.
Maw June 07, 2018 at 20:33 #186342
Reply to darthbarracuda I adore Lovecraft, outside of his casual racism that's thrown into his work. The Color Out of Space is my favorite.
_db June 07, 2018 at 20:56 #186344
Reply to Maw Just finished reading At the Mountains of Madness. I love his ability to create suspense through omission of detail. It's the unknown, the lack of description, that lets the imagination run wild. I am also impressed by his scientific spirit and understanding of the disciplines. The creatures in his stories are still ultimately material beings that conceivably could be studied by science - or at least, we think we could study them, but they are so terrible and too powerful to be studied. Thus human reason is subordinated to raw, primordial horror. I found it particularly interesting how, in At the Mountains of Madness, the protagonist (a man of science) is actively and earnestly trying to prevent a scientific expedition into the Antarctic mountains. We so often associate science and scientists with a triumphant spirit of curious exploration - yet here is a man who wants to limit it. Perhaps some things are not worth knowing - or better left unknown.
Maw June 21, 2018 at 14:36 #189872
Capital volume 1 by Karl Marx (rereading)
Baden June 22, 2018 at 16:15 #190237
A sample of Agamben's "State of Exception". Seems very good. Should I go for the real thing for 15 bucks (to anyone who's read it @StreetlightX, @Maw or anyone else?)
Streetlight June 22, 2018 at 16:20 #190239
Reply to Baden Doo itt. It's among his most accessible and topical works.
Baden June 22, 2018 at 16:23 #190240
Reply to StreetlightX

Done. :cool:
Maw June 22, 2018 at 16:34 #190244
I haven't read it, but as a rule of thumb, always go with what Streetlight recommends to read.
Baden June 22, 2018 at 16:41 #190247
Reply to Maw

I'm there, and on the philosophical front I need a break from Zizek, who is a bit addictive but also tiring in his contrariness after a while. It gets predictable that he's going to unpredictably turn everything upside down/inside out so it means the opposite of what it's supposed to roughly every three paragraphs.
_db June 30, 2018 at 21:04 #192624
Dostoevsky, Tolstoy and Nietzsche by Lev Shestov.

A commentary of the three philosophers by a severely under-recognized philosopher.

"[...] the tortures of Macbeth are not ordained only for those who have served 'evil' but also for those who have devoted themselves to the 'good.'"


"Morality showed itself impotent precisely where men would have been justified in expecting of it the greatest manifestation of its power."
Akanthinos June 30, 2018 at 21:23 #192628
Quoting Maw
I adore Lovecraft, outside of his casual racism that's thrown into his work. The Color Out of Space is my favorite.


Color Out of Space is pretty much the best horror story ever written. I always wondered if it would not be the earliest prototype of a zombie story.
Streetlight July 02, 2018 at 13:30 #193120
Claire Colebrook - Blake, Deleuzian Aesthetics, and the Digital
Seb Franklin - Control: Digitality as Cultural Logic
Maw July 04, 2018 at 20:01 #193879
Ahhhhh nooooo I just found out Clement Rosset died earlier this year

Love the only two books of his that were translated to English: The Real and Its Double and Joyful Cruelty
_db July 08, 2018 at 17:25 #195012
Evil and the God of Love by John Hick.
Streetlight July 09, 2018 at 08:50 #195183
Giorgio Agamben - Karman: A Brief Treatise on Action, Guilt, and Gesture


Reply to Maw If you have to pick one, which would you recommend?
Maw July 09, 2018 at 14:07 #195239
Reply to StreetlightX I think you may prefer The Real and Its Double
Streetlight July 12, 2018 at 21:26 #196242
Aden Evens - Logic of the Digital

Reply to Maw :up:
Shawn July 13, 2018 at 22:04 #196598
Susan Haack - Philosophy of Logics

Maw July 16, 2018 at 00:04 #197180
Marx's Capital is such a wonderful book. One of the best tomes that few people read - up there with Leopardi's Ziboldone, Burton's The Anatomy of Melancholy, and Montaigne's Essays.
John Doe July 16, 2018 at 22:55 #197458
Reply to Maw

I finally got around to reading Capital Vol. 1 for the first time late last year and was impressed by a lot of misconceptions which I think surround it. Beyond the opening few chapters, it's far more focused on description and analysis than theory, and a lot of the concerns he's raising deal with irrefutably awful stuff, unless one's pro de facto child slavery. It's certainly not a 1000+ page theoretical edifice a la Kant, which is what I think scares people off.
fdrake July 17, 2018 at 20:55 #197752
Finished Monbiot's Out of the Wreckage, How Did We Get Into This Mess? They're argued with excellent rhetorical flourish but are a little weak on discussion of source material, most of the time the source material looks quite transparent though so I'm still impressed.

The strongest essay I remember is on compound growth and differential resource consumption - convincingly arguing that overpopulation is a massively exaggerated problem when tied with an analysis of differences in consumption and consumerism. @Baden's made this point with similar alacrity before - that a high and increasing number of consumers is the root assumption of the overpopulation scare. The world can stand more, a lot more, people with their needs and sensible wants met but it can't stand the economic arrangement that enables the number of suburban McMansion SUV yatch parties to be sustained or grow.

I followed with Harvey's 17 Contradictions of Capital, which while attempting to provide a contemporary entry point to Marxist theory unfortunately doesn't jettison the theoretical jargon of alienation and value theory, so it's still unfortunately mostly another good contribution to Marxist scholarship. The major rhetorical contribution it makes is that it does 'dialectical analysis' from the ground up and without much reference to Hegel. Making the Marxist notion of contradiction something intuitive - as a conflict of interests or prescribed actions inherent in a doctrine or social arrangement - which nevertheless does all the theoretical work it's supposed to is pretty excellent.

The most memorable insights are the maxim 'capital doesn't resolve its contradictions, it moves them around geographically'. It comes with a discussion of how conditions in sweatshops in Asia and Africa are still much the same as Marx describes in the factories of England in his day. That he does this without leaning on 'third-worldism' as a political paradigm is refreshing.

After that, I finally manned up and decided to tackle Manufacturing Consent. Besides the methodological criticism that the authors are using training data as test data, it's still a very well documented exhibition of how the media, the government and influential/monied groups (some of them media organisations) construct the meaningful context and acceptable bounds of political discussion. Considering mainstream skepticism of the media and its relationship to governments in the US, Europe, Russia and Australia, it reads as a little outdated. I'd like if someone could tell me where to look to find discussion of how 'skepticism management' fits into this as a companion piece - one needs only to look at the memetic character of 'fake news' to see that the game's changed a bit since the book was published.
Deleteduserrc July 17, 2018 at 21:35 #197757
Quoting fdrake
The world can stand more, a lot more, people with their needs and sensible wants met but it can't stand the economic arrangement that enables the number of suburban McMansion SUV yatch parties to be sustained or grow.


I feel like the only solution would be a different form of status symbol. It seems, unfortunately, like a need for legible social hierarchy is built deeply into us, and conspicuous consumption is the most legible game in town.

But then you probably can't just make a new system of status symbols out of whole cloth because any official, public system would immediately generate a shadow-system where buying into the official system would, at a certain level, be considered low-status.

Feel like the saddest part of the human condition is that, no matter where you're at socially, you're not really there. You're smeared somewhere between the level you're trying to differentiate yourself from, and another higher level, the existence of which is potentially humiliating, if people you care about ascend to it and you remain. So there's an endless restlessness where you're never on absolutely firm social ground. And that gets externalized in yachts and all that. I don't even think most of the yachtiest people care that much about yachts. The yachts are more like a firm stare at another.

I think that's also part of the deal with stuff like what's revealed in the panama papers. Its partially about protecting your wealth, but also at a certain level, its like - how much wealth do you need? I think its more that the only way people can feel secure that they're elite is to be part of exclusionary second-world. The highest status symbol is a kind of secret handshake and access (to whatever)
Snakes Alive July 18, 2018 at 01:21 #197808
Dictionary of the Khazars: A Lexicon Novel in 100,000 Words – Milorad Pavic
Maw July 18, 2018 at 01:32 #197811
Quoting fdrake
I followed with Harvey's 17 Contradictions of Capital, which while attempting to provide a contemporary entry point to Marxist theory unfortunately doesn't jettison the theoretical jargon of alienation and value theory


It's surprising that Harvey includes the Labor Theory of Value given that (if I recall correctly), he's acknowledged it's not widely accepted anymore.
fdrake July 18, 2018 at 09:48 #197937
Reply to Maw Reply to ?????????????

Marx has his own value theory, it starts with the distinction of use value and exchange value, that road leads up to the different historico-logical money forms that culminates in money as the general equivalent, then some of its uses. There's a thread developed in tandem (in contradiction if you prefer) in Vol 1 concerning labour and production, where the 'value' (not price) of a commodity halves (or at least decreases, depending on reading) if the socially necessary labour time for the commodity halves.

Coming from this is the idea of 'surplus value' coming from labourers producing things worth more than it takes to pay them to make those things, which Marx gets at through the distinction between labour time (how long it takes to make a thing) and labour power (the capacity to work).

I don't see how anyone could come through Capital without registering the distinction between value and price.
Streetlight July 18, 2018 at 12:30 #197963
Giorgio Agamben - The Adventure
Giorgio Agamben - The Fire and the Tale
Maw July 18, 2018 at 13:09 #197972
Quoting fdrake
I don't see how anyone could come through Capital without registering the distinction between value and price.


Yeah the distinction between value and price is made evident early on in Capital.
fdrake July 18, 2018 at 13:41 #197993
Reply to Maw

I never could square myself with it though. Value's clearly something quantitative as it tracks socially necessary labour time, but it doesn't have a particularly simple relationship with price. There are situations where the price can be much lower than the one suggested through socially necessary labour time (like what results from a production subsidy), but there are also situations where it can be much higher (like an import tariff). Supply and demand fluctuations can produce the same effects. So it's not like one is a simple function of the other in reality.

The only way I can see it as empirically relevant is as a baseline expectation or a model of how things would work in the absence of such externalities. So it does reasonably well when you blur out the specifics; the account Marx gives prefigures differences in productive efficiency and production cost facilitating price undercutting, and the induced tendency to replace workers with fixed capital while repressing wages. Those two things, together with the assumption that the expenditure of labour power is the sole site of surplus value creation, suggest the falling rate of profit argument. But people who believe in that are pretty niche. Crises of Neoliberalism is the paradigmatic account (last time I was involved in academic Marxist circles anyway) of contemporary capitalist crisis, which goes against the falling rate of profit argument. But there are those like Andrew Kliman (The Failure of Capitalist Production) and his research circle which still go for it. The central hub here is the discussion of the transformation problem.

I think the trick with reading Capital usefully is to keep track of the context Marx is assuming for his models; which hold (in some sense) 'in the aggregate' and absent the 'counterveiling tendencies' in his account of capital. So I'm still very fond of the focus on production, the logical structure of money, and treating the commodity and wage labour as the essential features of capitalism. But seeing how those things actually work requires studying of real political contexts and distribution networks, contra 'orthodox Marxism' and those who still hate 'reformism' and have Naxalite wet dreams.
Maw July 18, 2018 at 14:44 #198027
Reply to fdrake

Yes, I recall one fairly valid criticism of Marx's concept of Value was that a commodity with a higher socially necessary labor time should correlate to higher prices, but this is often not the case as you point out. But to Marx's credit, his general method throughout Capital is to work from an abstract ideal of Capitalism, outside of external forces, in order to demonstrate that Capitalism, as posited by the Bourgeois economist, in its abstract-logical workings, contains internal contradictions, manifesting themselves into substantive conflicts. But I think this also limits his arguments in some areas as well.

Nevertheless, Marx offers one of the most penetrating critiques of Capitalism of any economist, and I think his definition and understanding of the process of Capitalism is essentially valid. And when we look at the world today, in which productivity has been increasing for decades, stock value has risen dramatically, company profits or soaring as are executive pay, and yet real wages have stagnated, it's hard not to acknowledge the exploitative nature of the beast and accept that Marx was strongly on to something.

So is Crises of Neoliberalism worth picking up then? I remember when it first came out, but it's been sitting in my Amazon cart for many years.
fdrake July 18, 2018 at 15:28 #198046
Quoting Maw
Yes, I recall one fairly valid criticism of Marx's concept of Value was that a commodity with a higher socially necessary labor time should correlate to higher prices, but this is often not the case as you point out. But to Marx's credit, his general method throughout Capital is to work from an abstract ideal of Capitalism, outside of external forces, in order to demonstrate that Capitalism, as posited by the Bourgeois economist, in its abstract-logical workings, contains internal contradictions, manifesting themselves into substantive conflicts. But I think this also limits his arguments in some areas as well.


I think we said essentially the same thing. I'd want to stress that the 'abstract ideal' is fundamentally a process model of capital, and what makes it still relevant today is that it still captures the essential features of what it's aimed at. It had some predictive validity too, even if the rate of profit behaviour isn't exactly as pictured. Maybe time will bear it out though.

Another weakness in Marxist theory (not of Marx) is that it's got almost no emphasis on econometrics - if you give a well read Marxist an economic time series they'll probably have absolutely no idea on how to make predictive inferences for it except in very broad qualitative terms. I think this is mostly an institutional feature of Marxism in the academy though; it's the anthropologists, sociologists, historians and political scientists that study Marxist theory, rather than econometricians or systems theorists (despite the latter's historical indebtedness to Marx).

Quoting Maw
So is Crises of Neoliberalism worth picking up then? I remember when it first came out, but it's been sitting in my Amazon cart for many years.


I don't remember much of it if I'm honest - I gave it a skim read because I felt familiar enough with the account by proxy at the time. But it is well respected.

Quoting ?????????????
As far as I'm concerned, the point of Harvey is that it's not like that in Marx either. Value might be produced during the process of production but is realised in the market and when it's not, you'll eventually have a crisis.


Exactly. Marx uses the distinction a lot, and clearly knew that changes in value don't have to correspond to changes in price. Nevertheless, some features of Marx's account require a mathematical correspondence between them - like the initial analysis of cotton looms suggesting direct proportion between value and price - and later on that surplus value, fixed and variable capital are conformable and enter into a ratio. There is a lot of wiggle room in how you quantify these things, which leads Kliman and his programme to affirm the falling rate of profit and Levy and Dumenil to reject it.



fdrake July 19, 2018 at 11:19 #198281
Reply to ?????????????

I remember reading that article some time ago. Gave it a re-skim. I have two comments on it.

The transformation problem applies in much the same way to money prices and direct prices. What you observe is the money price, and only the money price. Similar theoretical guarantees are required to translate direct price dynamics into money price dynamics. Are they a strictly increasing or decreasing function? No, again it's a complicated relationship. After productive equilibrium is reached, the money price is still characterised as oscillating around the direct price induced by the present socially necessary labour time as expressed in direct price. The means of that expression is left blank - and that absence is the transformation problem rephrased.

Unless I've really missed something.


I think the article misses the mark in terms of monetary theory too.

[quote=Critique of Crisis Theory]When we talk about the prices of all commodities, we are by definition leaving one commodity out—the one commodity in the capitalist economy that does not have a price. And what commodity by definition has no price? The money commodity. Since the money commodity serves as the standard of price, it itself cannot have a price. Only if we imagine that money is not a commodity can we talk about the prices of all commodities. Let N equal the total quantity of commodities. The total sum of commodity prices will always leave one commodity out. We can add up the prices only of N – 1 commodities.[/quote]

This is completely artificial, currency exchange as the exchange of money commodities is a thing, you can't just say people are actually exchanging the raw general equivalent as values aren't exchanged, money prices as an expression of their direct prices in the exchange are.

Have you seen that scene in Rick and Morty where Rick sets the value of the Intergalactic Currency to 0 and immediately this makes the galactic economy crash? It's worth 1 of itself, but also 2 of itself and so on... Nevertheless goods would still exchange at relative values and there's an equivalent form which can root a general equivalent again - just set it back to 1, call it a Galabuck, use all the same infrastructure and you're done. The impossibility of this in the real world is precisely why the network of money commodity exchange can't be externalised from the 'real' economy of commodities; which has real manifestations like inflation from the California gold rush or (appropriately distributed as in the theory) quantitative easing.

fdrake July 19, 2018 at 11:23 #198282
It feels strange to have my red hat on again.
_db July 28, 2018 at 23:36 #201002
Re-reading Prolegomena to Any Future Metaphysics by the sage of Königsberg.
Corvus July 29, 2018 at 07:39 #201112
The Red Books by C. G. Jung.
_db July 31, 2018 at 02:53 #201555
Life in a Medieval Castle by Joseph & Frances Gies. Cool book.
Maw August 03, 2018 at 21:38 #202603
Finished V1 of Capital
Maw August 06, 2018 at 04:21 #203287
Notes from Underground by Dostoevsky
Streetlight August 06, 2018 at 08:17 #203306
I recently reread Giorgio Agamben's The Sacrament of Language, and something 'clicked' in me about the role that language plays in his work, so I've gone back to reread chapters and essays from almost every second book of his in the last week, including:

Opus Dei (Last chapter)
Remnants of Auschwitz (Last chapter)
State of Exception (Chapter 2 and 3)
Homo Sacer (Section II and most of Section I)
Stanzas (Section I and III)
The Signature of all Things (Chapter 3)
Infancy and History (Whole book)
Potentialities (Whole book)
What Is Philosophy? (Whole book)
The Coming Community (bits and pieces)
Profanations (bits and pieces)

It's been exhilarating.

Also: Quoting Maw
Finished V1 of Capital
:clap:

Streetlight August 10, 2018 at 02:37 #204507
Bruce Pascoe - Dark Emu
Alexander Galloway - The Interface Effect
Maw August 10, 2018 at 03:22 #204545
Quoting StreetlightX
Bruce Pascoe - Dark Emu


Dude, my friends make fun of me for reading the most tedious of books, but you surely take the cake.

The Interface Effect sounds interesting though.
Streetlight August 10, 2018 at 03:31 #204550
Reply to Maw Haha, I've been intrigued by that book ever since I read this:

https://griffithreview.com/articles/andrew-bolts-disappointment/

- a reflection on people's reaction to the book which aims to show the extent of Aboriginal innovation in Australia before white settlement. Also, I've been sniping with my family over just this question recently so I decided I need to get educated! Something a little outside my normal reading habits, but its very good so far and I'm learning lots.
Maw August 10, 2018 at 03:46 #204559
Quoting StreetlightX
Also, I've been sniping with my family over just this question recently so I decided I need to get educated!


lol I'm just imagining your father pounding the table with his fist, his eyebrows furrowed, and his face red with anger, and yelling, "Dammit, Streetlight, you honestly think the Australian aboriginals somehow bypassed a nomadic adaptation for living, despite nearly all humanity across societies and continents experienced it as the initial social structure, instead experiencing some sort of localized Neolithic revolution ex nihilo?"
Streetlight August 10, 2018 at 03:53 #204560
Family dinners are weird :groan:
Noble Dust August 10, 2018 at 05:17 #204569
Uh, I've been re-reading LotR and loving every second (sentence). :yikes:
Maw August 11, 2018 at 01:28 #204783
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
frank August 11, 2018 at 13:01 #204877
The Enneads by Plotinus
Little Dorrit
ArguingWAristotleTiff August 12, 2018 at 14:57 #205278
Emotional Intelligence by Daniel Goleman
_db August 13, 2018 at 22:03 #205617
On the Fourfold Root of the Principle of Sufficient Reason by Arthur Schopenhauer.
Maw August 15, 2018 at 13:32 #205991
@StreetlightX any books about Time that you would recommend? Anything general would be great, but also specific to a Marxist interpretation would be of interest as well. I'm reading E.P. Thompson's paper on Time, Work-Discipline and Industrial Capitalism, and it's fascinating.
Streetlight August 15, 2018 at 17:25 #206053
Reply to Maw Hmm, I've never really approached questions of time 'directly' - generally it's through other lenses (X's or Y's take on time) - and there's nothing I know that is quite so 'concrete/historical' as anything Thompson would have written. The closest thing I can think of is a great essay by Isabelle Stengers and Didier Gille on time keeping devices and their social effects (look in your PMs!).

Otherwise, David Couzens Hoy's The Time of Our Lives is a great overview of different 'continental' approaches to time which I really like.

Elizabeth Grosz's two books, The Nick of Time and Time Travels, might be somewhat closer to what you've looking for, but they're more 'how to think about time and politics', and again, not anything like that Thompson essay (also, they're both essay collections themselves).

Henri Lefevbe's Rhythmanalysis might be even closer (Lefebvre being a Marxist sociologist), but it's a short book that deals more with rhythm than it does with 'time' as such.

Errr, otherwise, there's Poalo Virno's Déjà Vu and the End of History which I haven't read, but looks very much like something that matches what you're after.

Sciency-wise there's Lee Smolin's Time Reborn and Ilya Prigogine's The End of Certainty, which are superb (no politics at all!).

My last reccomendation might seem strange but is one of my favorite books I've ever read and has influenced me massively when thinking about time - Martin Hagglund's Radical Atheism: Derrida and the Time of Life, which strictly speaking is a (very clear!) reading of Derrida on time, but which I think is absolutely super as a stand-alone book on time in general.

But yeah, this is all a very random scattering of things off the top of my head. Time is always something I've approached 'sideways on', so these recc's may not be the best/most relevant, but yeah.
Maw August 15, 2018 at 20:25 #206108
Streetlight August 23, 2018 at 06:02 #207525
Paolo Virno - A Grammar of the Multitude: For an Analysis of Contemporary Forms of Life
Giorgio Agamben - The Use of Bodies (The ninth and final book of the Homo Sacer series!)
Streetlight September 07, 2018 at 16:51 #211023
Mark Fisher - Capitalist Realism
Paolo Virno - When The Word Becomes Flesh: Language and Human Nature
Paolo Virno - Essay on Negation: For a Linguistic Anthropology
_db September 12, 2018 at 01:42 #211899
Varieties of Religious Experience by William James
After Finitude by Quentin Meillassoux (re-read, never finished previously)
The Basic Kafka by Kafka
The Trouble With Being Born & Drawn and Quartered by Cioran
Maw September 20, 2018 at 03:42 #213727
Reply to darthbarracuda :up: for Cioran and AF

[I]Capital V2[/i] by Marx
Streetlight September 23, 2018 at 01:09 #214363
Daniel Dor - The Instruction of Imagination: Language as a Social Communication Technology
Streetlight October 01, 2018 at 00:20 #216919
Moira Gatens and Genevieve Lloyd - Collective Imaginings: Spinoza, Past and Present
Brian Rotman - Ad Infinitum... The Ghost in Turing's Machine: Taking God Out of Mathematics and Putting the Body Back In. An Essay in Corporeal Semiotics
Maw October 01, 2018 at 00:24 #216922
Gonna start Dracula by Bram Stoker tomorrow, because it's a S P O O K Y month
frank October 07, 2018 at 16:15 #218481
The History of Money By Jack Weatherford

This is is one of the best books I've read in a while. It contains sentences like: "The ancient ruins of the Imperial Age lie scattered across the center of modern Rome like whale bones that have washed up on a rocky shore and been picked clean by the birds and rodents that make their nests and burrows amid the debris."

Whale bones. Plus its author is a hero of the Mongolians. Awesome.
Pattern-chaser October 07, 2018 at 16:25 #218482
"A discovery of witches" by Deborah Harkness. I love a good story!
Streetlight October 16, 2018 at 19:06 #220818
Etienne Balibar - Spinoza and Politics
Brian Rotman - Signifying Nothing: The Semiotics of Zero
Brian Rotman - Mathematics as Sign: Writing, Imagining, Counting
Brian Rotman - Becoming Beside Ourselves: The Alphabet, Ghosts, and Distributed Human Being

On a bit of a Rotman/Spinoza kick.

Maw October 17, 2018 at 01:35 #220888
Quoting StreetlightX
Etienne Balibar - Spinoza and Politics


This has been on my radar for some time. Can you let me know what you think?
Streetlight October 20, 2018 at 02:40 #221469
Reply to Maw So I'm about half-way through and I'm liking it alot. The title 'Spinoza and Politics' is actually deliciously ambiguous: it refers not just to 'Spinoza's political theory', but quite literally, the politics of Spinoza's time, and how the political events of the day in Dutch republic profoundly shaped Spinoza's writing. It's also fairly lucid, and treats the both of the Tractati as seriously as it treats the Ethics, treating the whole oeuvre holistically, rather than distinguishing between a 'metaphysical' and 'political' Spinoza. It's fairly fast-paced, and condenses alot in a small space, which makes it a very rich read. Good if you want a study that brings out the uniqueness of Spinoza's approach and situates it with respect to his time.
ProbablyTrue October 20, 2018 at 09:00 #221485
Reply to StreetlightX What do you do for work? How do you have so much time to read? Are you just a better steward of time than the average person? You make me feel like the lazy procrastinator I am.
Streetlight October 20, 2018 at 13:05 #221501
Reply to ProbablyTrue Heh, you'll be surprised how much you can get through if you set aside just an hour of undistracted reading a day. Like, if it takes about 2 hours to read a chapter (conservative estimate), and if a book (of philosophy) is usually between 4-7 chapters, you can almost certainly get through a book and a bit a week. Once you develop the habit, it's very possible.
Streetlight October 28, 2018 at 11:45 #223005
Damien Cahill & Phillip Toner (eds.) - Wrong Way: How Privatisation & Economic Reform Backfired

Essays by various authors on the Australian context specifically, covering everything from healthcare to education to public engineering projects. I've been looking for a book like this for about a year now, and this is perfect.
SophistiCat October 28, 2018 at 12:25 #223008
Quoting ProbablyTrue
How do you have so much time to read?


Quoting StreetlightX
Heh, you'll be surprised how much you can get through if you set aside just an hour of undistracted reading a day.


Good reading skills must help too. I too set aside some reading time, usually more than one hour per day, but there is no way I could get through an average-sized book in a week, especially a philosophy book.

(I read mostly fiction though. Currently finishing Javier Marías's A Heart So White in English translation. It is a fairly slim book, as novels go, but it still took me a couple of weeks.)
Streetlight November 08, 2018 at 01:19 #225817
Walter Ong - Orality and Literacy: The Technologizing of the Word
Giorgio Agamben - What is an Apparatus? And Other Essays
Fernando Zalamea - Synthetic Philosophy of Contemporary Mathematics
Fernando Zalamea - Peirce's Logic of Continuity: A Conceptual and Mathematical Approach
Valentinus November 08, 2018 at 01:59 #225818
Spinoza's Ethics (part 1 and 2)
Maybe it is bullshit. But it so successfully circumvents other peoples' bullshit that it gets my attention.
LD Saunders November 08, 2018 at 17:00 #225980
Innate How the Wiring of Our Brains Shapes Who We Are, by Kevin J. Mitchell, Princeton and Oxford, 2018.
_db November 10, 2018 at 23:04 #226586
Whatever by Michel Houellebecq.
Pensieri by Giacomo Leopardi.
Apey November 11, 2018 at 05:06 #226638
Why i Assassinated Gandhi by Gopal Godse
Streetlight November 26, 2018 at 11:05 #231262
Mary Tiles - The Philosophy of Set Theory: An Historical Introduction to Cantor's Paradise
Albert Lautman - Mathematics, Ideas and the Physical Real
Giorgio Agamben - What Is Real?
_db November 26, 2018 at 19:06 #231419
The Neuroscience of Religious Experience by Patrick McNamara
The Elementary Particles by Michel Houellebecq
Streetlight December 24, 2018 at 09:11 #240115
Reading for 2018! (Bold indicates favourites)

Philosophy of Math

Albert Lautman - Mathematics, Ideas, and the Physical Real
Fernando Zalamea - Peirce's Logic of Continuity: A Conceptual and Mathematical Approach
Fernando Zalamea - Synthetic Philosophy of Contemporary Mathematics
Mary Tiles - The Philosophy of Set Theory - An Historical Introduction to Cantor's Paradise
Brian Rotman - Becoming Beside Ourselves: The Alphabet, Ghosts, and Distributed Human Being
Brina Rotman - Mathematics as Sign: Writing, Imagining, Counting
Brian Rotman - Signifying Nothing: The Semiotics of Zero
Brian Rotman - Ad Infinitum... The Ghost in Turing's Machine: Taking God Out of Mathematics and Putting the Body Back In. An Essay In Corporeal Semiotics
Bob Clark - Wittgenstein, Mathematics, and World

Animals and Aesthetics

Elizabeth Grosz - Becoming Undone: Darwinian Reflections on Life, Politics, and Art
Elizabeth Grosz - Time Travels: Feminism, Nature, Power
Raymond Ruyer - Neofinalism
Jakob von Uexküll - A Foray Into the Worlds of Animals and Humans: With a Theory of Meaning
Richard Prum - The Evolution of Beauty: How Darwin's Forgotten Theory of Mate Choice Shapes the Animal World - And Us
Adolf Portmann - Animal Forms and Patterns: A Study of the Appearance of Animals
D'Arcy Wentworth Thompson - On Growth and Form
Andreas Wagner - Arrival of the Fittest: How Nature Innovates

Deleuze, the Digital, and Aesthetics

Aden Evens - Logic of the Digital
Claire Colebrook - Blake, Deleuzian Aesthetics, and the Digital
Alexander Gallloway - The Interface Effect
Seb Franklin - Control: Digitality as Cultural Logic
Ronald Bogue - Deleuze on Music, Painting, and the Arts
Anne Sauvagnargues - Artmachines: Deleuze, Guattari, Simondon
Anne Sauvagnargues - Deleuze and Art
Daniella Voss - Conditions of Thought: Deleuze and Transcendental Ideas
Elizabeth Grosz - The Incorporeal: Ontology, Ethics, and the Limits of Materialism

Agamben and Virno

Giorgio Agamben - What Is Real?
Giorgio Agamben - What Is an Apparatus? And Other Essays
Giorgio Agamben - What Is Philosophy
Giorgio Agamben - Taste
Giorgio Agamben - The Use of Bodies
Giorgio Agamben - The Sacrament of Language: An Archaeology of the Oath
Giorgio Agamben - Potentialities: Collected Essays in Philosophy
Giorgio Agamben - The Unspeakable Girl: The Myth and Mystery of Kore
Giorgio Agamben - The Fire and the Tale
Giorgio Agamben - The Adventure
Giorgio Agamben - Karman: A Brief Treatise on Action, Guilt, and Gesture
Paolo Virno - Essay on Linguistic Negation: For a Linguistic Anthropology
Paolo Virno - When the Word Becomes Flesh
Paolo Virno - A Grammar of the Multitude: For an Analysis of Contemporary Forms of Life

Other

Wilfrid Sellars - Science, Perception, and Reality
Wilfrid Sellars - Naturalism and Ontology
Walter J. Ong - Orality and Literacy
Damien Cahill & Phillip Toner - Wrong Way: How Privatisation and Economic Reform Backfired
Etienne Balibar - Spinoza and Politics
Moria Gatens & Genevive Lloyd - Collective Imaginings: Spinoza, Past and Present
Daniel Dor - The Instruction of Imagination: Language as a Social Communication Technology
Mark Fisher - Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative?
Bruce Pascoe - Dark Emu
Miguel Sicart - Play Matters
Byung-Chul Han - Shanzhai: Deconstruction in Chinese
Byung-Chul Han - The Agony of Eros

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This was a super interesting year, where I kinda oscillated between the super abstract (math) and the super concrete (aesthetics), so as to get a better feel for the relation between the two. Not a great deal of politics or sociology this year, which is always a bit of a failing, so maybe this is something I can remedy next year. I think the path forward is going to consist in a bit more math - especially Wittgenstein - and after, possibly a project on gesture and language. In any case, happy reading for the New Year everyone! And of course:

Currently Reading: Jose Benardete - Infinity: An Essay on Metaphysics. This is a book I've heard credited for helping to revive analytic metaphysics, and also as having affinities with Deleuzian metaphysics, so I'm pretty hyped for it.
Maw January 03, 2019 at 03:36 #242655
Essayism: On Form, Feeling, and Non-Fiction by Brian Dillion
The Origin of Capitalism by Ellen Meiksins Wood
Maw January 03, 2019 at 03:51 #242658
Oh right in 2018 I read:

The Heights of Despair by Cioran (reread)
Tears & Saints by Cioran (reread)
A Short History of Decay by Cioran (reread)
All Gall Is Divided by Cioran (reread)
The Temptation to Exist by Cioran (reread)
History and Utopia by Cioran (reread)
The Fall into Time by Cioran (reread)
The New Gods by Cioran (reread)
The Demiurge by Cioran (reread)
The Trouble With Being Born by Cioran(reread)
Drawn & Quartered by Cioran (reread)
Anathemas and Admirations by Cioran (reread)
The Melancholy of Resistance by László Krasznahorkai
Seibo There Below by Laszlo Krasznahorkai
The Name of the Rose by Umberto Eco (reread)
Dark Money by Jane Mayer
A Hero Born by Jin Yong
The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism From Edmund Burke to Donald Trump by Corey Robin
Satantango by László Krasznahorkai (and then watched the 7+ hr movie lol)
Stamped From The Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram X. Kendi
The Trial by Kafka
The Attention Merchants: The Epic Scramble to Get Inside Our Heads by Tim Wu
Capital volume 1 by Karl Marx (reread)
Notes from Underground by Dostoevsky
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
Dracula by Bram Stoker
Capital volume 2 by Karl Marx
Maw January 03, 2019 at 03:52 #242659
Quoting StreetlightX
Mark Fisher - Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative?


Just got this, starting this after I finish Dillion's short book
Streetlight January 03, 2019 at 04:11 #242661
Quoting Maw
Just got this, starting this after I finish Dillion's short book


It's good. It packages contemporary Marxist critique in a clear and accessible way, with an emphasis on education and mental health. A short, depressing, and punchy read.
Maw January 04, 2019 at 01:23 #242916
Quoting StreetlightX
A short, depressing, and punchy read.


That's my jam
_db January 04, 2019 at 01:33 #242919
The Elementary Particles aka Atomized by Houellebecq was fantastic. Reading Submission now.
Nicholas January 05, 2019 at 01:27 #243221
The Conservative Mind by Russell Kirk and whatever of Irving Babbitt I can find. Babbitt's translation and the following essay about the Dhammapada by Buddha is nifty.
Santayana is next, I read his Last Puritan as a child, so time to go deeper.
Deleteduserrc January 05, 2019 at 02:29 #243225
Reply to Maw

How do you like Krasznahorkai?
Maw January 05, 2019 at 02:35 #243226
Reply to csalisbury

Well I read three of his books within a few months and watched the Bela Tarr film Satantango which was over 7 hours long so I guess you can say I adore his work.
Deleteduserrc January 05, 2019 at 02:46 #243227
Reply to Maw Isn't he great? My favorite is War&War which I'm guessing you're close to getting around to - but I haven't read Melancholy (I own it, but I'm on a self-imposed no-dark-or-overly-theoretical-book regimen at the moment. One day.)
Maw January 05, 2019 at 02:51 #243229
Reply to csalisbury War & War is next on my list. Melancholy is excellent, I'm not sure if I enjoy that or Satantango more, but they are two of my favorite books of all time. Seibo There Below was great but a somewhat odd departure.
Deleteduserrc January 05, 2019 at 03:03 #243231
Reply to Maw Re: Seibo, agreed. Reading his China travelogue (tho its more than that), Destruction and Sorrow Beneath the Heavens helped me make some sense of it. It was translated after Seibo but was written four years before. His fascination - and deep familiarity with- despair is the flipside of his desire for transcendence, I think (he's a lot like Dostoevsky in that way). And his desire for transcendence is tightly bound up with his respect for craft and discipline. He didn't really find what he was looking for in China. But I feel like part of that was this inertia thing. He kind of didn't want to. He was ambivalent. Seibo lets that part free a little more.
Maw January 13, 2019 at 01:57 #245560
Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative by Mark Fisher
Streetlight January 16, 2019 at 08:34 #246588
Ludwig Wittgenstein - Remarks on the Foundations of Mathematics
Ludwig Wittgenstein - Lectures on the Foundations of Mathematics

Reply to Maw Whadya think?
Moliere January 16, 2019 at 16:32 #246679
Setting Sights: Histories and Reflections on Community Armed Self-Defense -- Scott Crow

Maw January 18, 2019 at 23:01 #247650
Reply to StreetlightX I loved it, some essays I re-read again immediately after finishing them. I'm going to buy the Collect Writings that came out recently
Maw January 20, 2019 at 15:19 #248290
The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin
Baden January 20, 2019 at 20:51 #248386
Reply to Maw

Halfway through this. Definite thumbs up too. The section on education is particularly spot on and gels with my experience (only I never expressed my frustrations as consistently eloquently and effectively as he does his).
AppLeo January 22, 2019 at 05:57 #249048
Atlas Shrugged by Ayn Rand
Deleteduserrc January 22, 2019 at 06:29 #249052
Dante's Comedy

I'm not sure what I think yet. I'm at canto iv. He seems to have a lot of good insight about spiritual progress. but then he'll suddenly declare himself equal to Homer, or use his poem to shit on some other enemy from his personal life. And he constantly flatters Virgil, obsequiously, while still casting judgment on Flatterers. So I don't know.
Deleteduserrc January 22, 2019 at 06:31 #249054
I really really wanted it to be a good spiritual poem, ala Dark Night of the Soul, but it's seeming more and more like a hugely imaginative poem by a bitter exile, mapping out his psyche with all its inconsistencies.
frank January 23, 2019 at 01:32 #249287
Reply to csalisbury It's science fiction. They thought hell was underground, and the idea that the earth is spherical was circulating. When they get to the bottom of hell, it's the center of the earth.
Baden January 28, 2019 at 18:48 #251135
Black like me—John Howard Griffin (Reread)
Deracination: Historicity, Hiroshima, and the Tragic Imperative—Walter A. Davis
Rabbit, Run—John Updike
The Conquest of Bread—Peter Kropotkin
Infinite Jest—David Foster Wallace
Maw January 29, 2019 at 03:34 #251227
Quoting csalisbury
Dante's Comedy


One of the best things humanity ever made imo
Maw January 29, 2019 at 03:40 #251228
Crime and Punish by Michel Foucault
Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism by Fredric Jameson
Deleteduserrc January 29, 2019 at 20:35 #251400
Reply to Maw I'm still very on board. But it's striking to me how strange Dante's thought is. I guess it's easy to assume that High Canonical works are going to be sleek, monumental things. But the Comedy, so far, is bizarre in its assemblage of myths, theologies, esoteric schemas and how easily it shifts from the universal to the particular etc etc. Which I guess is a virtue in itself. I just haven't quite gotten used to it.

Tho I see aspects of myself in every circle of hell so far, the ones I've most related to are the sullen:

'Sullen were we in the air made sweet by the Sun;
in the glory of his shining our hearts poured
a bitter smoke. Sullen were we begun;

sullen we lie forever in this ditch.'
This litany they gargle in their throats
as if they sang, but lacked the words and pitch.

I think its interesting that the sullen are introduced just after the wrathful, lying beneath the surface of the water that the wrathful endlessly roil. And that they're in the same canto as the hoarders and the wasters, whose punishments mirror one another. Reminds me of the old idea of depression as aggression turned inward. Sort of like the wrathful are anger-spendthrifts, and the sullen are anger-misers.
Maw January 31, 2019 at 01:43 #251691
Reply to csalisbury There is no denying it's an extremely personal poem which is why it's rather "strange" or rough around the edges. It's inseparable from Dante the man. If you read La Vita Nuova, Dante discusses his infatuation with Beatrice, who as well all know dies young, and at the end of La Vita Nuova he basically says that he will not write anything more about her unless it be something truly worth of her; and something that has never been said of any woman.

Then the mad lad goes and writes what I would say is the greatest epic poem ever written. Literally called his shot, what a baller.
Maw January 31, 2019 at 01:59 #251694
There was also a modernized, yet very well done, and entertaining Dante's Inferno indie film that came out 10 years ago. They used paper figures. Used to be on Netflix ages ago but I haven't been able to find a stream in a long time.

Maw February 10, 2019 at 17:49 #254565
Kids These Days: The Making of Millennials by Malcom Harris
Dune by Frank Herbert
_db February 10, 2019 at 18:39 #254576
The Two Fundamental Problems of Ethics by Arthur Schopenhauer
Neurosis and Human Growth by Karen Horney
Streetlight February 17, 2019 at 04:13 #256877
Weekend reading spot :D

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Maw February 17, 2019 at 04:40 #256878
you sick bastard I want to be on a beach
Streetlight February 26, 2019 at 01:33 #259402
Henry Staten - Wittgenstein and Derrida
Giovanni Maddalena - The Philosophy of Gesture: Completing Pragmatists' Incomplete Revolution
Streetlight March 11, 2019 at 21:54 #263714
Henry Staten - Nietzsche's Voice
Noson Yanofsky - The Outer Limits of Reason: What Science, Mathematics, and Logic Cannot Tell Us

Mostly finished my little 'math phase' for now, so hopefully I can pick up the pace a bit on reading. That said I picked up the Yanofsky book after reading this lovely article on the math and the multiverse that anyone interested in one or both ought to read: http://nautil.us/issue/49/the-absurd/chaos-makes-the-multiverse-unnecessary
RegularGuy March 11, 2019 at 22:24 #263722
Reply to StreetlightX I found that article interesting until it got to the complex numbers. Then I lost interest because I was too lazy to put in the mental work.
Streetlight March 11, 2019 at 22:30 #263724
Reply to Noah Te Stroete Nooo stop being lazy! Reading discipline is important!
RegularGuy March 11, 2019 at 22:32 #263725
Reply to StreetlightX Mom! He yelled at me! LOL
RegularGuy March 11, 2019 at 22:39 #263726
Reply to StreetlightX Actually, I just realized that I don’t know whether you’re a he or a she.
Streetlight March 11, 2019 at 22:41 #263727
Reply to Noah Te Stroete I am your reading daddy.
RegularGuy March 11, 2019 at 22:41 #263728
Shawn March 11, 2019 at 22:46 #263732
If only I could read 1/10'th of what StreetlightX does, ho hum...
Maw March 12, 2019 at 00:35 #263750
The Silence of the Girls by Pat Barker
Streetlight March 13, 2019 at 17:20 #264224
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I may or may not be chillin' on a rooftop in Fez at Sunset getting through my reading right now.
RegularGuy March 13, 2019 at 17:47 #264229
Reply to StreetlightX Morocco? Very cool. :cool:
Maw March 28, 2019 at 01:09 #269680
Reply to StreetlightX Nice kicks

The Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord
Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War by Michael Isikoff and David Corn
Streetlight March 30, 2019 at 15:54 #270715
Stanley Cavell - The Claim of Reason: Wittgenstein, Skepticism, Morality, and Tragedy
Boras April 10, 2019 at 19:32 #275186
I haven’t been able to read much lately but I’m currently reading;
-Utopia Tomas Moro (in Spanish)
-Walden Henry David Thoreau (in English)
I’m finding both books fascinating and that many of the ideas they transmit are really contemporary. I will be definitely reading more about them.
P.D. Hi everyone, this is my first comment in this forum.
Maw April 15, 2019 at 00:16 #277078
From Slavery to the Cooperative Commonwealth: Labor and Republican Liberty in the Nineteenth Century by Alex Gourevitch
Deleteduserrc April 15, 2019 at 01:32 #277138
The Bostonians Henry James
The Bible
frank April 15, 2019 at 01:51 #277153
Reply to csalisbury You mean the real Bible?
Deleteduserrc April 15, 2019 at 11:25 #277309
Reply to frank Yeah, I've meant to read it for a really long time. I like it mostly so far, though the repetition in the pentateuch can be wearying at times.
frank April 15, 2019 at 14:26 #277396
Reply to csalisbury Hebrew poetry reminds me a little of 12-bar blues: repetition and resolution. Maybe that's a leftover from oral transmission?
0 thru 9 April 15, 2019 at 16:03 #277460
I find the unleavened dryness of the Bible to be pleasantly counter-balanced by a bottle of Manischewitz wine.
frank April 15, 2019 at 16:17 #277464
Quoting 0 thru 9
I find the unleavened dryness of the Bible to be pleasantly counter-balanced by a bottle of Manischewitz wine.


Abraham's line is initiated into priesthood by Melchizedek with bread and wine: the same kind of meal that transformed Enkidu from wildman to civilized. Bread and wine points back to something beyond human memory: the point that we realized that we aren't just animals.
Deleteduserrc April 15, 2019 at 23:26 #277610
Quoting frank
Hebrew poetry reminds me a little of 12-bar blues: repetition and resolution. Maybe that's a leftover from oral transmission?


I'm supplementing my reading with lectures from the Yale Open Course on the OT and the professor seems to think that might be it - that or, maybe it was written down, but read aloud, and the repetition would help the key points stick for the illiterate audience.

I think there's something to what you said. I found the end of deuteronomy beautiful, and part of that was the delayed release. (also appreciate, being done with it, the repetition. a lot of stuff about e.g the role of levites stuck that wouldnt have if they didnt say it eighteen times.)
Deleteduserrc April 15, 2019 at 23:27 #277611
in any case, on to joshua!
_db April 15, 2019 at 23:28 #277612
9-11: Was There an Alternative? by Noam Chomsky.
The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided By Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt.
The Denial of Death by Ernest Becker.
Ethics by Spinoza.
frank April 16, 2019 at 02:27 #277639
Quoting csalisbury
I'm supplementing my reading with lectures from the Yale Open Course

I listened to all the Dale Martin lectures on the New Testament and I really learned a lot.
Maw April 23, 2019 at 02:16 #280743
Capital In the 21st Century by Thomas Piketty
Streetlight May 07, 2019 at 08:35 #286753
Stanley Cavell - Must We Mean What We Say?: A Book of Essays
I like sushi May 07, 2019 at 08:43 #286757
Currently reading the entrails of a dead goat .., the future looks gruff!

Seriously, main three I’m focused on atm:

- Aion by Carl Jung (a bit of a slog)
- Mythology of The Celtic People by Charles Squire
- On the Genealogy of Morals by Nietzsche

Also, less attention on:

- Fear and Trembling by Kierkegaard
- Beyond Good and Evil by Nietzsche (second reading)
- Odysseus by Homer
- a few others that don’t immediately spring to mind!
Baden May 19, 2019 at 22:00 #290883
Mark Fisher - Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative?

:up: :up:

Maw May 20, 2019 at 03:16 #290940
Reply to Baden So good

Private Government: How Employers Rule Our Lives (and Why We Don't Talk about It) by Elizabeth Anderson (just finished, and the ending has a glorious put down of libertarian economist Tyler Cowen's response to her)

White Identity Politics by Ashley Jardina
Heracloitus May 25, 2019 at 07:51 #292196
Henri Lefebvre - Rhythmanalysis
Dawn Lyon - What is Rhythmanalysis?
Yi Chen - Practising Rhythmanalysis

(anyone have recommendations around this?)
Streetlight May 25, 2019 at 08:52 #292202
Reply to emancipate There's surprisingly very little written about rhythm from a philosophical perspective - at least, as an explicit theme. One work I really like was Jessica Wiskus' The Rhythm of Thought: Art, Literature, and Music after Merleau-Ponty. Although it's strictly speaking a work on M-P, it stands on its own as a great meditation on rhythm in general.
Heracloitus May 25, 2019 at 12:01 #292218
Reply to StreetlightX Thanks!
You are correct, there is not much around this topic. I found this set of podcasts though:

http://generic.wordpress.soton.ac.uk/rhythmanalysis/seminar/

"The seminar series comprised six sessions exploring various approaches to time and rhythm as those found in the work of key critical theorists, such as Gilles Deleuze, Henri Lefebvre, Rudolf Laban, Roland Barthes, Henri Meschonnic, Emile Benveniste, Gaston Bachelard and others."
Streetlight May 26, 2019 at 16:35 #292467
Stanley Cavell - Conditions Handsome and Unhandsome
Sara Ellenbogen - Wittgenstein's Account of Truth
Peter Winch - The Idea of a Social Science and Its Relation to Philosophy

Reply to emancipate Oh, this reminds me! Eleni Ikoniadou, who presents the sixth seminar in your link, also has an OK book on rhythm, The Rhythmic Event, which takes a look at alot of sound art through the lens of rhythm, and is pretty useful and well written.
Baden May 29, 2019 at 21:12 #293017
Mark Fisher - The Weird and the Eerie

So good 2.
I like sushi May 30, 2019 at 05:30 #293076
At the moment focusing attention on three books in combination:

- Logical Investigations, Husserl
- Naming and Necessity, Kripke
- Phenomenology of Spirit, Hegel

Up to now, Husserl is good (but vague as usual), Kripke is a puzzle because early doors seems to have overextended the term ‘truth’ ... but I imagine a little more reading will clear this up. Hegel? Still making my way through the preface and intro.
Streetlight June 15, 2019 at 11:11 #297991
G. E. M. Anscombe - Intention

Maybe the last of my Wittgenstein adjacent books for a while, depending.
Maw June 16, 2019 at 02:13 #298221
The Prince by Machiavelli
Juliet June 19, 2019 at 05:58 #299227
Aristotle - Poetics and Rhetoric
Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, John Jay - The Federalist
David P. Barash - Approaches to Peace - A Reader in Peace Studies
Karl Marx - Capital Vol. 1
BC June 19, 2019 at 06:16 #299228
The Club: Johnson, Boswell, and the Friends Who Shaped An Age by Leo Damrosch
The Darkening Age: The Christian Destruction of the Classical World by Catherine Nixey (Christian Jihadists attacked the Roman Temples at Palmyra 1700 years ago, pretty much like their Moslem successors did a few years back)
I Am Charlotte Simmons, A Novel by Tom Wolfe (too long, but pretty good)
Streetlight June 26, 2019 at 04:04 #301073
Hanna Pitkin - Wittgenstein and Justice: On the Significance of Ludwig Wittgenstwin for Social and Political Thought

Oops. One more Witty related thing.
Amity June 27, 2019 at 08:25 #301446
Currently not reading.
Too many books started and not finished.

However last week caught a Goethe at Lake Garda. The name of a speed ferry. Not quite how Goethe was blown to Malcesine. And the storm he created whilst drawing the castle there, well...
Quite the 007 drama with a twist. *
I read his 'ItalianJourney' and a few of his stories many years ago. Quite the inspiration. For many.

To refresh my memory on philosophical influence, I read:
https://www.iep.utm.edu/goethe/#H6
Extract:

' Finally, Wittgenstein’s (1889-1951) claim that things which cannot be put into propositional form might nevertheless be shown bears a family resemblance to Goethe’s formulation of the daimonisch. But where Wittgenstein removes the proverbial ladder on which he ascends to his intuitions about the relation between logic and the world, thereby reducing what cannot be bound by the rules of logic as nonsensical, Goethe believed he could communicate what were admittedly ineffable Urphänomene in a non-propositional way, through the feelings evoked by drama.

There is, moreover, a distinct similarity in Goethe’s and Wittgenstein’s views on the proper task of philosophy. Its aim, for both, can never be accomplished, once and for all, by means of ‘the right argument’. Argumentation, explanation, and demonstration only go so far in their attempt to unravel the mysteries of the world. “Philosophy simply puts everything before us; it fails to deduce anything,” (Wittgenstein, Philosophical Investigations, 126).

Philosophy’s role in our life should guide us to be reflective people, ever ready to critique inherited dogmas, and always ready to revise our hypotheses in light of new observations. Goethe, through his ceaseless energy, limitless fascination with the world as it was presented to him, and his perpetual willingness to test his convictions against new evidence, carries a timeless appeal to philosophers, not because he demonstrated or explained what it meant to live philosophically, but because, through the example of the course of his life, he showed it.'

Given Goethe's influence and his 'timeless appeal', it is surprising that he is not given more attention.
I now better understand the appeal of Wittgenstein if he follows Goethe in agreeing the role of philosophy in our lives.

* Malcesine castle now a major tourist attraction where people can read a bit about Goethe.
Or get married...





Amity June 27, 2019 at 08:26 #301447
Quoting StreetlightX
Oops. One more Witty related thing.


Hah. You just can't help yourself :wink:
Amity June 30, 2019 at 11:05 #302402
Following this discussion:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/4326/death-of-mary-midgley

Have downloaded a free kindle version of Mary Midgley's 'The Myths We Live By'.
Might even read it...
Maw July 01, 2019 at 02:30 #302716
Grundrisse by Marx
Prison Notebooks by Antonio Gramsci
Baden July 10, 2019 at 22:38 #305718
The Atrocity Exhibition - J.G Ballard
(Particularly funny chapters: "Why I Want to Fuck Ronald Reagan" and "The Assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy Considered as a Downhill Motor Race.")
K-Punk: The Collected and Unpublished Writings of Mark Fisher - Mark Fisher

T Clark July 11, 2019 at 02:17 #305755
A bunch of really crappy fantasy and military science fiction available on Amazon Kindle Unlimited. Why do the fantasies always seem to involve harems of elves and vampires?
Streetlight July 15, 2019 at 12:52 #307058
John Sellars - Stoicism
Carlo Rovelli - The Order of Time

Rovelli is the physicist humans need right now.
Patulia July 16, 2019 at 12:44 #307360
Just finished reading "Le Père Goriot" by Balzac and currently reading a book on Darwin and Darwinism. Started but not finished yet (but plan to finish soon): Thus spoke Zarathustra, Nietzsche and The Republic, Plato.
fdrake July 16, 2019 at 16:00 #307394
Quoting StreetlightX
Carlo Rovelli - The Order of Time


I'll have this book soon. Will make a thread of it once I've finished reading.
Streetlight July 16, 2019 at 16:40 #307400
Reply to fdrake He writes like an Italian, which is always a good thing. Also the whole book is so... Deleuzian.
fdrake July 16, 2019 at 21:19 #307433
Quoting StreetlightX
Also the whole book is so... Deleuzian


I love that he just gets to work on the issues, I read "Brief Lessons" a couple of months ago and it wasted absolutely no time.
Maw July 18, 2019 at 01:28 #307759
The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon by Marx
Theses on Feuerbach by Marx
The Limits of Capital by David Harvey

Yes, I love MARX

M - Marx
A - Always
R - Right
X - xoxo
Streetlight July 18, 2019 at 04:34 #307794
Reply to Maw lmao.

Piotrek ?wi?tkowski - Deleuze and Desire: Analysis of "The Logic of Sense"
Gilles Deleuze - The Logic of Sense

Prep for a seminar on the LoS next week :D
Streetlight August 08, 2019 at 08:03 #314048
Natasha Lennard - Being Numerous: Essays on Non-Fascist Life
Eleanor Kaufman - Deleuze, The Dark Precursor: Dialectic, Structure, Being
luckswallowsall August 08, 2019 at 09:59 #314065
Ethics and the A Priori: Selected Essays on Moral Psychology and Meta-Ethics by the Australian Philosopher Michael Andrew Smith
Streetlight August 15, 2019 at 15:10 #315898
Andrew Culp - Dark Deleuze (meh)
Jane R. Goodall - The Politics of the Common Good: Dispossession in Australia
Slavoj Zizek - Organs Without Bodies: Deleuze and Consequences
Baden August 15, 2019 at 21:27 #316131
Quoting StreetlightX
Organs Without Bodies: Deleuze and Consequences


Hadn't heard of that one. Any good?
Streetlight August 16, 2019 at 03:49 #316251
Quoting Baden
Hadn't heard of that one. Any good?


It's good once you realise that it's like a 40 page essay on Deleuze and then the rest is cultural critique where Deleuze barely figures. The Deleuze stuff is - expectedly for Zizek - incredibly unorthodox (its almost written in a way to make orthodox Deleuzians mad), and worth reading precisely for that.
Alan August 16, 2019 at 13:35 #316409
A history of the theories of aether and electricity - Sir.Edmund Whittaker
Baden August 16, 2019 at 13:38 #316411
Reply to StreetlightX

Cheers I'll take a look at a sample anyhow or I may be able to get the pdf somewhere.
T Clark August 22, 2019 at 20:44 #319118
In another thread, @Wayfarer recommended the following book - Baggott, Jim. Farewell to Reality: How Modern Physics Has Betrayed the Search for Scientific Truth (p. 8). Pegasus Books.

It was really helpful. It is broken into two parts - the authorized story and the realm where Baggot thinks physics has gone off the tracks. The part I liked best was the first. His explanations of the Standard Model, the Higgs field and boson, symmetry breaking, and the evidence for the Big Bang and Dark Matter answered questions that have bothered me for a long time.

His writing is clear and simple but not too simple. He shows enthusiasm for science without any Gee Whiz.
Baden August 22, 2019 at 22:17 #319141
Umberto Eco: Semiotics and the Philosophy of Language
_db August 25, 2019 at 21:25 #320317
The Tragic Sense of Life by Miguel de Unamuno
anChored tRain August 26, 2019 at 20:50 #320531
Just finished reading Urantia Book
Now reading:
The Art of Loving by Erich Fromm
Streetlight August 27, 2019 at 02:51 #320615
Matthew Warren - Balckout: How Is Energy-Rich Australia Running Out of Electricity?
Patchen Markell - Bound By Recognition
Streetlight September 04, 2019 at 10:34 #324068
Joseph Carew - Ontological Catastrophe: Zizek and the Paradoxical Metaphysics of German Idealism

Started this yesterday and I'm 2/3s through. It is fantastic.
Baden September 05, 2019 at 20:20 #324807
Marx - Capital Vol 1 (Reread)
nanashi nogombe September 06, 2019 at 12:22 #325138
The Plague of Fantasies - Slavoj Žižek
180 Proof September 07, 2019 at 07:32 #325443
september readings:

Incontinence of the Void, Slavoj Žižek
Strange Economics, eds. David F. Schultz et al
Realm of Lesser Evil, Jean-Claude Michea
The Underground Railroad, Colson Whitehead
Less Than Human, David Livingston Smith
This Way For The Gas, Ladies and Gentlemen, Tadeusz Borowski
Baden September 07, 2019 at 09:59 #325465
Reply to 180 Proof

'bout time you showed up. :up: :cool:
Saphsin September 07, 2019 at 13:05 #325516
I spend virtually all my time in the past 2 years on politics these days, in particular North Korea peace issues because that's what I've been involved in. But here are some stuff I've read that people here may be interested in:

Social Evolution, Political Psychology, and the Media in Democracy: The Invisible Hand in the U.S. Marketplace of Ideas - Peter Beattie

Capitalism vs. Freedom: The Toll Road to Serfdom - Rob Larson

No Less Than Mystic: A History of Lenin and the Russian Revolution for a 21st-Century Left - John Medhurst

Korea: Where the American Century Began - Michael Pembroke

Energy: A Human History - Richard Rhodes

A Bright Future: How Some Countries Have Solved Climate Change and the Rest Can Follow - Joshua Goldstein, Staffan A. Qvist

Whole Earth Discipline: An Ecopragmatist Manifesto - Stewart Brand

Philosophy and Climate Science - Eric Winsberg (more technical than I thought)

Nonsense on Stilts 2nd Edition - Massimo Pigliucci
Streetlight September 11, 2019 at 06:32 #327251
Hanna Pitkin - The Concept of Representation
Gilles Deleuze - Masochism: Coldness and Cruelty (includes Leopold von Sacher-Masoch's Venus in Furs)

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Reply to 180 Proof :cheer: 'sup!

Reply to Saphsin Some really interesting looking stuff here.
180 Proof September 11, 2019 at 15:27 #327442
Reply to StreetlightX

Well - long time no dialectic! Your lists, man, are still as monstrously inspiring as I remember ... :wink:
180 Proof September 11, 2019 at 15:37 #327445
Reply to Baden

'sup, B. :smirk:
180 Proof September 19, 2019 at 06:41 #330575
What Is Real?, Adam Becker
Something Deeply Hidden, Sean Carroll
The Weil Conjecture, Karen Olsson
The Nocturnal Brain, Guy Leschziner
Witcraft, Jonathan Rée

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re-reading:
 
Order of Time, Carlo Rovelli
When Einstein Walked with Gödel, Jim Holt

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Out of the blue a 'birthday gift' (prank?) has just arrived without signature or return address, which, for now, I've consigned to one my "stacks" until further notice ...

philosophers: Their Lives And Works, eds. M. Walisiewicz, et al
Maw September 19, 2019 at 12:33 #330616
Reply to 180 Proof omg you're back :grin:
180 Proof September 19, 2019 at 15:48 #330660
Reply to Maw

Yeah, some days ... Strange but still trying to get comfortable here. How've you been, Maw? Encouraged by what you've been reading. :up:
Deleted User September 19, 2019 at 17:55 #330708
Quoting 180 Proof
Out of the blue a 'birthday gift' (prank?) has just arrived without signature or return address, which, for now, I've consigned to one my "stacks" until further notice ...


:chin: .. Oh no. :death:
Pantagruel September 19, 2019 at 18:07 #330717
"Introduction to Systems Philosophy" Ervin Laszlo - just finished
"General Systems Theory: Foundations, Development, Applications" Ludwig von Bertalanffy - just started
Maw September 19, 2019 at 23:29 #330914
Reply to 180 Proof Thank you kindly! I've been well despite the hyper-descent into hell we've been tumbling into. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the modern political trajectory here around the world, along with the left-wing counter-resurgence.
Deleteduserrc September 23, 2019 at 03:46 #332537
rage & time - peter sloterdijk
end of history & the last man - francis fukuyama
reality is not what it seems - carlo rovelli
the europeans - henry james

Apparently Fukuyama studied under Derrida at Yale. The guy who engineered modern neoconservatism, helped get us embroiled in Iraq - he was gonna be a cont-lit guy. Later, Derrida strikes him down in Spectres of Marx. this is weird. Kissinger era realism went though a continental bottleneck and got us post 911 us policy
Noble Dust September 23, 2019 at 03:52 #332539
Crime And Punishment - Dostoevsky (found it on the street :fire: )
Man And His Symbols - Edited by C.G. Jung
The Destiny Of Man - Nikolai Berdyaev

On deck:

The Dream Quest Of Unknown Kadath - H.P. Lovecraft (my favorite novel title of all time...maybe I shouldn't read it and just continue to enjoy the title.)
lecrop September 23, 2019 at 10:06 #332645
Hi, first post :smile:

Now reading Zeit der Zauberer - Das große Jahrzehnt der Philosophie 1919-1929 - W.Eilenberger
Maw September 23, 2019 at 23:27 #332913
Trick Mirror: Reflections on Self-Delusion by Jia Tolentino
The World of Late Antiquity: AD 150-750 by Peter Brown
Black Rights/White Wrongs: The Critique of Racial Liberalism by Charles Mills
180 Proof September 26, 2019 at 06:16 #334248
[quote=Maw]I've been well despite the hyper-descent into hell we've been tumbling into. I'd love to hear your thoughts on the modern political trajectory here around the world, along with the left-wing counter-resurgence.[/quote]
A bit of momentary reprieve in hell this week. These days, however, I'm just too fatigued to put my (out)rage at this ascendent(?) 'anti-political zeitgeist' into words. But I'm sure we'll chew on our share of effin' fat cat gristle one of these days, comrade. :wink:

Thanks, btw, for mentioning the Charles Mills' book - looks like my jam; I'll wait, though, for your 4-1-1 if & when you'd be so kind. Likewise, if you haven't noticed from my earlier current reads (above), Realm of Lesser Evil, check it out. I might say something more about it when my first read's done.
Amity September 27, 2019 at 10:56 #334899
Quoting 180 Proof
I might say something more about it when my first read's done.


Reply to Maw Reply to lecrop Reply to Noble Dust Reply to csalisbury Reply to Pantagruel Reply to StreetlightX Reply to Saphsin Reply to Baden Reply to nanashi nogombe Reply to 180 Proof
And to anyone else not mentioned.

Impressive lists. Impressive amounts of reading.
Sorry to intrude, and it is off topic, but I thought it worth posting here.

How many takes does it take to get the most out of a book. And is it better if you have someone else reading along with you - or at the end of a reading ?

I would like to hear views on how best to read a book for understanding.
In particular, the taking of notes and writing down thoughts; what you have read and its effects.

Also, how best to discuss a book with others; especially in an online forum.
Because this sharing might be life-changing for some...

There is a current thread here:

https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/6716/mortimer-adler-how-to-read-a-book
Baden September 27, 2019 at 16:57 #334981
The mythology of work: how capitalism persists despite itself—Peter Fleming

Problematizes the concept and practice of work especially in the context of its most recent neoliberal incarnation. Very good so far.
Amity September 27, 2019 at 17:08 #334986
Quoting 180 Proof
I'll wait, though, for your 4-1-1


Please excuse my ignorance but what is a 4-1-1 ?
Baden September 27, 2019 at 17:25 #334992
Reply to Amity

Hadn't read that discussion yet. Thanks for the heads up. :up:
Amity September 27, 2019 at 17:57 #335005
Reply to Baden
You're welcome :sparkle:
Hope to hear more thoughts...
Shelley Robinson September 27, 2019 at 18:20 #335017
Reply to jamalrob "The Art of Loving" Erich Fromm
Jamal September 27, 2019 at 20:35 #335086
Not much philosophy over the past few months, mainly research before and after my move to Moscow. These are the highlights:

Mikhail Bulgakov, The Heart of a Dog & The Master and Margarita
Yevgeny Zamyatin, We
Vasily Grossman, Life and Fate
Simon Sebag Montefiore, Stalin: The Court of the Red Tsar
John Medhurst, No Less than Mystic (that rare thing, a Leftist anti-Bolshevik history of the revolution)
Abraham Ascher, Russia: a Short History
Peter Pomerantsev, Nothing is True and Everything is Possible: Adventures in Modern Russia
Orlando Figes, Revolutionary Russia, 1891-1991
China Mieville, October: The Story of the Russian Revolution

And a little light economics:

Yanis Varoufakis, Talking to my Daughter
Joseph Choonara, Reader's Guide to Marx's Capital
Karl Marx, Capital (decades since I read it)
lecrop September 27, 2019 at 20:40 #335089
I love to know what others read. It is a very affordable voyeurism not exempt from exciting moments.
Jamal September 27, 2019 at 20:41 #335090
Reply to lecrop I agree
Jamal September 27, 2019 at 20:57 #335101
Quoting csalisbury
Apparently Fukuyama studied under Derrida at Yale. The guy who engineered modern neoconservatism, helped get us embroiled in Iraq - he was gonna be a cont-lit guy. Later, Derrida strikes him down in Spectres of Marx. this is weird. Kissinger era realism went though a continental bottleneck and got us post 911 us policy


Possible plot for a new Adam Curtis documentary?
180 Proof September 27, 2019 at 22:25 #335143
All evening I'll be listening to Abbey Road - Super Deluxe 4 CD Edition, while reading the gorgeous 100pp book of photos & song-by-song session notes that comes with it. And sipping ... Fab Gear, man! :cool:

:victory: & :heart:
Streetlight September 28, 2019 at 00:28 #335217
Quoting Amity
How many takes does it take to get the most out of a book. And is it better if you have someone else reading along with you - or at the end of a reading ?


I churn through books at a fairly high rate, and rarely return to books in their entirity. What I tend to find myself returning to are parts of books, relavent to whatever I'm interested in at the time. In this sense I treat books more like resources that I can go back to when there's something in one that I'm after.

I also tend to read clusters of books with similar themes or authors, so I can cross-relate readings as I go. Helps to build a more robust picture of whatever it is that you're reading on. Like, I plan to do a bunch of Spinoza study soon, and have a whole series of Spinoza related books lined up.

Occasionally I'll start a thread here in order to pursue a theme that I want to articulate better. I think the absolute best way to demonstrate understanding to yourself is to put arguments or points of view in your own words. Trying to respond to criticisms also helps to really show yourself that you grasp a point of view. The most fun is in connecting different topics that you wouldn't have considered 'connectible' had you not discussed it.

Anyways, a rag tag collection of thoughts to respond to your query.
Maw September 28, 2019 at 01:38 #335246
Quoting 180 Proof
Thanks, btw, for mentioning the Charles Mills' book - looks like my jam; I'll wait, though, for your 4-1-1 if & when you'd be so kind.


For sure :victory:

Maw September 28, 2019 at 01:43 #335248
Reply to Amity I usually digest the book fairly well on a first read, but will sometimes return to it for a re-read within a few years if I find it still relevant to my interests or simply highly worth returning to if I originally found it influential (e.g. Marx's Capital, Amartya Sen's Development As Freedom, Cioran's works).

Somewhat similar to StreetlightX, I will gravitate towards a topic (e.g. ethics, politics, economics, pessimism), but usually not for too long because of my terrible ADHD, so I typically bounce around topics.
180 Proof September 28, 2019 at 02:59 #335271
Reply to Amity

[quote=StreetlightX]I churn through books at a fairly high rate, and rarely return to books in their entirity. What I tend to find myself returning to are parts of books, relavent to whatever I'm interested in at the time. In this sense I treat books more like resources that I can go back to when there's something in one that I'm after.[/quote]

Ditto.
Amity September 28, 2019 at 09:32 #335364
Quoting StreetlightX
I also tend to read clusters of books with similar themes or authors, so I can cross-relate readings as I go. Helps to build a more robust picture of whatever it is that you're reading on. Like, I plan to do a bunch of Spinoza study soon, and have a whole series of Spinoza related books lined up.

Occasionally I'll start a thread here in order to pursue a theme that I want to articulate better. I think the absolute best way to demonstrate understanding to yourself is to put arguments or points of view in your own words. Trying to respond to criticisms also helps to really show yourself that you grasp a point of view. The most fun is in connecting different topics that you wouldn't have considered 'connectible' had you not discussed it.


Thanks for this. I look forward to any new thread you start.

I like the 'most fun' bit - showing the value of discussion in helping to grasp difficult topics or a philosopher. And making connections. Unfortunately, not everyone can hold a library of related books as reference. Or even get them from a library. I rely so much on the internet and 'freebies' to get that bigger picture.

[ Also, if a group discussion is to take place e.g. on Spinoza, it would be good to have advance notice of useful texts or resources. Perhaps there is already such a list in the ' Resources' section of the forum ?]






Amity September 28, 2019 at 09:36 #335365
Quoting Maw
Somewhat similar to StreetlightX, I will gravitate towards a topic (e.g. ethics, politics, economics, pessimism), but usually not for too long because of my terrible ADHD, so I typically bounce around topics.


I'm a bit bouncy too and that's without ADHD. Perhaps I just get impatient and bored :wink:
Amity September 28, 2019 at 09:38 #335367
Reply to 180 Proof
Ditto. Well, that was easy !
You are both well read and have widely read. Adler had something to say about the differences in levels of understanding. In the discussion I linked to I disagreed with him...but perhaps I was wrong.
Deleteduserrc September 30, 2019 at 01:14 #335844
Quoting jamalrob
Possible plot for a new Adam Curtis documentary?


We live in extraordinary times. We find our universities awash in strange and mysterious theories, theories that threaten our very sense of reality. This film will tell the story of how, in the 1980s, a mystical jewish philosopher and a japanese-american pragmatist created two diverging paths of political thought, paths which we are still travelling to this day.

I really liked the Fukuyama, btw. Only about 1/3 of it has anything to do with the caricature that has been so often criticized. The other two thirds are those criticisms. It's really not the naive, triumphal book it's made out to be. I don't ultimately agree with him, I guess, but it's the most cogent political worldpicture I've groked (though I haven't groked many.) It's refreshingly direct, and it's insane that it was written in 92 (he predicts that there will be a wave of authoritarian movements and a backslide of democracy sometime in the next generation. He sees it as likely temporary, but he predicts it will be severe and will see new, unheard of authoritarian-hybrids. He also predicts that immigration will become one of the biggest issues for 'posthistorical states') I'm planning to reread Negri & Hardt's Empire next to compare and contrast.

(also - hoping that at some point you'll drop some man-on-the-street accounts of what modern Russia's like. )
Deleteduserrc September 30, 2019 at 02:36 #335878
Breezing through

submission - michel houellebecq

Late to the game on this one, and I'm bummed I let my preconceptions get in the way of actually reading it. It's really good in pure literary terms & its also a pageturner & its also extremely nuanced.
Baden September 30, 2019 at 09:27 #335925
Reply to csalisbury

Funny. I grabbed that from the library a week or two ago. Yes, well-written and I initially liked it but then I felt the author stopped believing himself and it all became a bit forced and naively implausible for me. He's better when he's talking about micro-personal stuff than trying to deal with politics imo. Oh, and the main protagonist is a wanker. Hard to stay with him. So, I dumped it.
Jamal September 30, 2019 at 11:35 #335947
Quoting csalisbury
I really liked the Fukuyama, btw. Only about 1/3 of it has anything to do with the caricature that has been so often criticized. The other two thirds are those criticisms. It's really not the naive, triumphal book it's made out to be. I don't ultimately agree with him, I guess, but it's the most cogent political worldpicture I've groked (though I haven't groked many.) It's refreshingly direct, and it's insane that it was written in 92 (he predicts that there will be a wave of authoritarian movements and a backslide of democracy sometime in the next generation. He sees it as likely temporary, but he predicts it will be severe and will see new, unheard of authoritarian-hybrids. He also predicts that immigration will become one of the biggest issues for 'posthistorical states')


You've persuaded me to read it now. Like many, I've been ignorantly dismissing it for years.
Baden September 30, 2019 at 12:27 #335953
Quoting jamalrob
Like many, I've been ignorantly dismissing it for years.


Me too. Probably been listening to too much Zizek.
Streetlight September 30, 2019 at 12:47 #335958
Wendy Brown - In the Ruins of Neoliberalism: The Rise of Antidemocratic Politics in the West

Probably the most acute diagnostic of politics in the West that I know. Punchy and readable too - highly reccomended.
Maw October 01, 2019 at 03:10 #336188
Reply to StreetlightX will def check it out
Streetlight October 05, 2019 at 06:33 #338258
Jodi Dean - The Communist Horizon
Jodi Dean - Crowds and Party
Rolf October 07, 2019 at 09:06 #338978
https://www.amazon.in/Books-Slavoj-Zizek/s?rh=n%3A976389031%2Cp_27%3ASlavoj+Zizek
SophistiCat October 08, 2019 at 17:50 #339639
Quoting jamalrob
Yevgeny Zamyatin, We


Hah, that's an interesting choice. Nowadays the book is probably more name-checked than actually read, but I thought it was a well-written novella in the antiutopia genre (not to mention prophetic - it was written hot on the trail of the Bolshevik revolution, almost 30 years before 1984).

Quoting jamalrob
Peter Pomerantsev, Nothing is True and Everything is Possible: Adventures in Modern Russia


Apropo of nothing, I slightly know his father, a Russian poet, and I met the future author when he was still in school. Haven't read the book though.



Jamal October 08, 2019 at 22:31 #339708
Quoting SophistiCat
Hah, that's an interesting choice. Nowadays the book is probably more name-checked than actually read, but I thought it was a well-written novella in the antiutopia genre (not to mention prophetic - it was written hot on the trail of the Bolshevik revolution, almost 30 years before 1984).


I liked it a lot. It's remarkable that he saw what was happening as early as 1920. Remarkable either because he prophesied some of the features of the regime and the society that would characterize Stalinism, or just because those features were clearly evident soon after the revolution--which is remarkable to me as someone weaned on the Trotskyist version of events in which the revolution was fine and dandy before Stalin took power.

Quoting SophistiCat
Apropo of nothing, I slightly know his father, a Russian poet, and I met the future author when he was still in school. Haven't read the book though.


Cool. I haven't read it either to be honest. I'll get to it.
180 Proof October 11, 2019 at 15:35 #340755
oktoberfest readings :yum:

Aporetics, Nicholas Rescher
Proof!, Amir Alexander
Conscience: The Origins of Moral Intuition, Patricia Churchland
Hiking With Nietzsche, John Kaag
Sex and The Failed Absolute, Slavoj Žižek
Theories of Forgetting, Lance Olsen
Lobe, Paul Baden

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re-reading:

A World Without Why, Raymond Geuss
Maw October 14, 2019 at 00:10 #341723
In the Ruins of Neoliberalism: The Rise of Antidemocratic Politics in the West by Wendy Brown

@180 Proof I'm over halfway through Black Rights/White Wrongs and I highly recommend it. A powerful corrective course for liberalism as typically articulated and defended by white men illiterate to the complexities and inequalities of race and racism produced in society. Charles Mills believes we can keep liberalism (which he defines, by way of John Gray, as Individualist, Egalitarian and Universalist) and strengthen it by acknowledging race experience and the history of racism, and integrating the moral and political philosophies found within it into liberalism (in conjunction with Feminism and Marxism/classism). Pairs very well with the New York Times' 1619 Project, particularly Nikole Hannah-Jones gushingly fantastic essay here.
Streetlight October 14, 2019 at 00:19 #341724
Quoting 180 Proof
A World Without Why, Raymond Geuss


Quoting Maw
In the Ruins of Neoliberalism: The Rise of Antidemocratic Politics in the West by Wendy Brown


:cheer:
Hanover October 14, 2019 at 01:19 #341729
Wrestling the Angel - Terryl L. Givens
Creation ex nihilo - Gary Anderson and Markus Bockmuehl
Moses the Egyptian - Jan Assmann (an unfortunate last name).
Maw October 14, 2019 at 01:20 #341730
Quoting Hanover
Assmann


same
180 Proof October 14, 2019 at 05:39 #341776
Reply to Maw Thanks!

For a contrarian take on liberalism, I've just read Jean-Claude Mishea's angry but brilliant (anti-liberal?) critique Realm of Lesser Evil. I need to read it again; if you haven't already, I think you'll find it worth a read.
Streetlight October 14, 2019 at 06:12 #341784
Quoting 180 Proof
Jean-Claude Mishea's - Realm of Lesser Evil.


Quoting Maw
Charles Mills - Black Rights/White Wrongs


These look great! At some point I want to read Domenico Losurdo's Liberalism: A Counter-History, and these look like they'd make for good companion reading. @Maw, you gotta tell me how you like the Brown book.


Shawn October 15, 2019 at 18:30 #342291
Philosophy of Logics by Susan Haack

With Naming and Necessity and Reference and Existence on the way...
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Baden October 15, 2019 at 19:41 #342310
Quoting 180 Proof
• Lobe, Paul Baden


Oh, that's mah book. Cheers again for reading :up: . Hope there's something in there for you. @csalisbury said he liked some of it. But he was drunk at the time, so...
Maw October 15, 2019 at 19:43 #342312
Reply to Baden really?
Baden October 15, 2019 at 19:49 #342315
Baden October 15, 2019 at 19:50 #342316
Anyhow, don't want to discuss me here. Carry on. :point:
Hanover October 15, 2019 at 20:30 #342323
Quoting tim wood
Assman is apparently a perfectly good and respectable Austrian name.


I don't question the gentleman's respectability. I expect it's a family name, having been gained by the prior occupation or reputation perhaps of his ancestors. Much like someone named Smith was a blacksmith or silversmith and maybe someone now named Carpenter had a great great grandfather who was just that.

So Jan Assman had a great great grandfather who enjoyed the backside and was apparently well known for it. It's not something I blame him for, and I do admit to a certain admiration for his celebrating that facet of his personality. His now accomplished descendant, who apparently is quite the Egyptologist, in a whimsically ironic twist, provides evidence of his own ancient civilization through his name. The original patriarch Assman apparently enjoyed staring at, fondling, and perhaps even invading the ass. Good for him I say. Good for him.

180 Proof October 15, 2019 at 21:56 #342345
Harold Bloom 1930-2019

"I realized early on that the academy and the literary world alike — and I don't think there really is a distinction between the two — are always dominated by fools, knaves, charlatans and bureaucrats."


Reply to Baden :wink:

praxis October 15, 2019 at 23:48 #342373
I just finished Philosophy and Real Politics by Raymond Geuss. It didn’t end with a kiss, but it was satisfyingly realistic.
Pantagruel October 16, 2019 at 00:18 #342377
Formation of the Historical world in the Human Sciences
Dilthey's Selected Works, Volume III
lecrop October 18, 2019 at 17:37 #343105
The Scent of Time: A Philosophical Essay on the Art of Lingering
by Byung-Chul Han
Streetlight October 20, 2019 at 10:07 #343545
Reply to praxis Good?

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Michel Feher - Rated Agency: Investee Politics in a Speculative Age
Ying October 21, 2019 at 08:02 #343914
Nassim Taleb - "The Black Swan"
Herbert Marcuse - "One Dimensional Man"
Umberto Eco - "Kant and the Platypus"
Sextus Empiricus - "Against the Logicians"
180 Proof October 21, 2019 at 14:21 #344019
Human Compatible, Stuart Russell

re-reading:

When Colorblindness Isn't The Answer, Anthony B. Pinn
Collected Essays & Memoirs, Albert Murray

[quote=Albert Murray]We invented the blues; Europeans invented psychoanalysis. You invent what you need.[/quote]
:cool:
uncanni October 21, 2019 at 20:04 #344089
The Reproduction of Evil. A Clinical & Cultural Perspetive, Sue Grand
The New Dictionary of Kleinian Thought, Bott Spillius et al., eds.
praxis October 22, 2019 at 06:03 #344237
Reply to StreetlightX

Yes. Thanks again for mentioning Geguss.
180 Proof October 25, 2019 at 03:58 #345156
A History of the Bible, John Barton

NB: Any history of a religion (and its scriptures) is very much like seeing how a magic trick is done. Most don't want to know, of course; they just want the magic - the make believe - without knowing how they're being tricked.
Deleteduserrc October 25, 2019 at 04:39 #345165
The Gospels, funnily enough.

Continuing on from the Old Testament, alongside a whole lot of secondary literature, and Yale lectures from their open courses. In my exprience, the more I learn about how the bible got made, the more I appreciate what a remarkable document it is. Are both the Old and New Testaments strange, shaggy stitchings together of heteregeneous texts, compilations created in order to serve as mythic propaganda in the interest of power? Yeah, almost certainly. It's no coincidence that a king of an embattled Judah, 'discovered' the deuteronomic laws in a library at the same time many scholars believe the bulk of the old testament was composed. And It's no coincidence the geography of the pentateuch looks a lot the geography of Judah vis-a-vis Egypt at that time. So forth. If you think that the 'magic trick' is 'this is all factual and revealed' then even a small dose of history will dispel the illusion. And it's a lot of fun to learn that history. But does the bible have any power after you understand its sordid, seamy history?

Zizek

"Recall the old Catholic strategy to guard men against the temptation of the flesh: when you see in front of you a voluptuous feminine body, imagine how it will look in a couple of decades – the dried skin, sagging breasts… (Or, even better, imagine what lurks now already beneath the skin: raw flesh and bones, inner fluids, half-digested food and excrements…) Far from enacting a return to the Real destined to break the imaginary spell of the body, such a procedure equals the escape from the Real, the Real announcing itself in the seductive appearance of the naked body. That is to say, in the opposition between the spectral appearance of the sexualized body and the repulsive body in decay, it is the spectral appearance which is the Real, and the decaying body which is reality – we take recourse to the decaying body in order to avoid the deadly fascination of the Real which threatens to draw us into its vortex of jouissance."
jellyfish October 25, 2019 at 04:44 #345169
Reply to 180 Proof
I just read Engels on early Christianity. Great stuff! It focuses on The Book of Revelation (for reasons explained in the text).
https://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1894/early-christianity/

180 Proof October 25, 2019 at 05:56 #345191
Reply to jellyfish :cool:

Quoting csalisbury
If you think that the 'magic trick' is 'this is all factual and revealed' then even a small dose of history will dispel the illusion. And it's a lot of fun to learn that history. But does the bible have any power after you understand its sordid, seamy history?


Once I'd learned (enough of) how the 'magic trick' was/is done - after 10 years of parochial school 'bible study, church history & altarboy service' - I seemed to slip effortlessly, almost helplessly, out of the Catechism's mind-forg'd manacles like a newborn out of the womb again, but this time, fallen wide-eyed instead of wailing onto the pellucidly hard cold ground of my facticity. :joke: Teen apostate, then very soon a 'born again' anti-magical thinker & knowing skeptic. Still, decades on, for me the fascination of 'The Illusion' remains. Thus, e.g. Barton's book, etc.

Quoting csalisbury
Zizek

"Recall the old Catholic strategy to guard men against the temptation of the flesh: when you see in front of you a voluptuous feminine body, imagine how it will look in a couple of decades – the dried skin, sagging breasts… (Or, even better, imagine what lurks now already beneath the skin: raw flesh and bones, inner fluids, half-digested food and excrements…) Far from enacting a return to the Real destined to break the imaginary spell of the body, such a procedure equals the escape from the Real, the Real announcing itself in the seductive appearance of the naked body. That is to say, in the opposition between the spectral appearance of the sexualized body and the repulsive body in decay, it is the spectral appearance which is the Real, and the decaying body which is reality – we take recourse to the decaying body in order to avoid the deadly fascination of the Real which threatens to draw us into its vortex of jouissance."


Great quote! :clap: :cool:
fdrake October 25, 2019 at 06:01 #345194
Reply to csalisbury

When visiting your girlfriend's family for the first time, imagine yourself fucking their mother, and then their grandmother, this will allow you to establish an approximate upper bound on the relationship length...

Edit:

Upon noticing a perceived flaw in your girlfriend's appearance, meditate upon it, if attachment remains after the meditative exercise, do the same thing as an exercise to try and prevent orgasm - if you can still cum, eternity awaits...

Edit2, De Sade's Principle:

Imagine the body decomposing, the shit in their bowels, the smell of their breath in the morning, decrepit and codependent... Enlightenment is turning the real into viagra.
Deleteduserrc October 28, 2019 at 01:50 #346265
Quoting 180 Proof
Once I'd learned (enough of) how the 'magic trick' was/is done - after 10 years of parochial school 'bible study, church history & altarboy service' - I seemed to slip effortlessly, almost helplessly, out of the Catechism's mind-forg'd manacles like a newborn out of the womb again, but this time, fallen wide-eyed instead of wailing onto the pellucidly hard cold ground of my facticity. :joke: Teen apostate, then very soon a 'born again' anti-magical thinker & knowing skeptic. Still, decades on, for me the fascination of 'The Illusion' remains. Thus, e.g. Barton's book, etc.


Makes sense. My religious upbringing was of the desultory 'I guess this year we're going to try going to mass for a couple months' sort and my spiritual volte-face had more to do with making my mean Dad sad than giving up something wholly enveloping. My 'return' to religion is less a return, then a 'wow, I didn't even get it before' & even then I've been treating the bible more as a text-sandbox to flesh out some ideas on spirituality/literature/history than a place I plan on moving into permanently. Pardon the provocation, I guess I've got a mild crush, and I got heated up seeing her ex badmouth her in public. Seemed like the best defense was "you're just saying that cause you still like her!'
Deleteduserrc October 28, 2019 at 02:11 #346267
Quoting fdrake
decrepit and codependent

made me lol. De Sade by way of modern relationship therapy.
180 Proof October 28, 2019 at 02:22 #346271
Quoting csalisbury
Pardon the provocation, I guess I've got a mild crush, and I got heated up seeing her ex badmouth her in public. Seemed like the best defense was "you're just saying that cause you still like her!'


Not following this ...
Deleteduserrc October 28, 2019 at 02:54 #346281
Reply to 180 Proof The lady's the bible, the zizek's the 'you still like her,'
180 Proof October 28, 2019 at 03:49 #346293
Streetlight October 28, 2019 at 11:23 #346383
Daivd Graeber - Debt: The First 5000 Years
Maurizio Lazzarato - The Making of Indebted Man: An Essay on the Neoliberal Condition
Maurizio Lazzarato - Governing by Debt

A slight theme.
fdrake October 28, 2019 at 16:22 #346461
Quoting StreetlightX
Daivd Graeber - Debt: The First 5000 Years


I've been reading this one on and off for a while. Tell me what you think of it plx!
Streetlight October 30, 2019 at 03:59 #346889
Reply to fdrake 70 pages in, and it's pretty fun so far. I think Graeber gets a bit of flak for coming off as a bit glib, but he's got the chops to back it up so I don't mind. Seems to me the basic point is to say of debt what Marx said of capital: it's a social relation. The rich anthropological and historical discussions are all meant to flesh this out.
Maw October 31, 2019 at 02:01 #347204
Quoting StreetlightX
you gotta tell me how you like the Brown book.


Finished it a few days back and really enjoyed it. Quite pithy, which I always appreciate. The chapters on the dissolution of the social and the political, replaced by an expanding private sphere was compelling. They are variants on themes I've heard before. I found the last chapter particularity intriguing with Brown's analysis that Capitalism dissolves moral values that would otherwise act as a conscience barrier restraining aggressive acts. With this nihilism in place it then opens a lacuna for nihilism, power as politics, viz., the Alt-Right, to rush in, which explains our contemporary political climate.

However, thinking about the final chapter more in depth, and in a historical context, the political violence in the USA has in fact decreased in the past 40 years. And it's not as if political history isn't abound with moral sublimation between colonialism, slavery, torture, genocide, etc., I'd have to think about it more, but I would say that a conscience isn't a given - which I think Wendy Brown somewhat presupposes here - something that is then subsequently eroded, by neoliberalism. Rather, a conscience is something to be developed, and neoliberalism works to ensure that it doesn't. There are more layers here than explain the political climate, rather than just neoliberal hegemony.
Streetlight November 01, 2019 at 09:04 #347682
Reply to Maw Yeah, I thought the last chapter - along with the legal analysis in chpt 4 - were the most original of the book. I think you're entirely right too in saying that liberalism stifles the development of moral relations, rather than eroding a given.
Streetlight November 04, 2019 at 11:01 #348503
Christian Marazzi - The Violence of Financial Capitalism

Read this over a couple of days. Was a bit too condensed to be particularly useful, but the emphasis on considering the global (rather than regional) nature and reach of financialization was a good takeaway.
frank November 04, 2019 at 15:41 #348573
Quoting StreetlightX
liberalism stifles the development of moral relations,


When people say "business is business" they mean that it's a world where contracts are much more important than friendship or even familial relationships. People who fail to recognize that will eventually be screwed over by a former friend and either learn to protect themselves legally or exit that world. So there are natural sentiments that get squashed.

The cultural climate also matters.
Maw November 05, 2019 at 02:06 #348841
The Phenomenology of Spirit by Hegel
A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America by Bruce Gibney
Shawn November 05, 2019 at 02:53 #348846
So jelly you people can read books.

180 Proof November 05, 2019 at 03:08 #348851
Quoting frank
liberalism stifles the development of moral relations,
— StreetlightX

When people say "business is business" they mean that it's a world where contracts are much more important than friendship or even familial relationships. People who fail to recognize that will eventually be screwed over by a former friend and either learn to protect themselves legally or exit that world. So there are natural sentiments that get squashed.

The cultural climate also matters.


True.

:death: :flower:
Baden November 05, 2019 at 23:45 #349316
Conversations with Zizek—Zizek with Glyn Daly

And a bunch of grammar/style guides for work.
Amity November 06, 2019 at 16:57 #349500
Quoting Baden
And a bunch of grammar/style guides for work.


Such as ?
Do you really need them - I thought you already a talented writer and educator ?



Baden November 06, 2019 at 17:44 #349532
Reply to Amity

Oh, they're predominantly academic style guides for my editing work (Chicago, MLA, APA, Turabian etc). They're very fine grained and differ on minutiae depending on the field etc. Thanks for the compliment anyhow. :wink:
Amity November 07, 2019 at 08:55 #349849
Quoting Baden
...for my editing work (Chicago, MLA, APA, Turabian etc). They're very fine grained and differ on minutiae depending on the field etc. Thanks for the compliment anyhow


Ah, OK - so you provide professional editing services for all sorts. Consider me even more impressed.

Had a quick look at Turabian. I note that it is used in journal articles and essays as well as for theses, dissertations and research papers. Apparently offering more readability.

The Turabian style of writing a bibliography in the notes-bibliography mode is perfect for humanities, like arts, languages, literature and history.


So, let's just say that there might be a few generous intellectuals on or off TPF...
And imagine that they have a burning desire to write an article for TPF.
Why wouldn't they ?
This would be a polished, perfect product; a proud upstanding piece of philosophy :cool:
Then we could all tear it to shreds :naughty: ...er... I mean enjoy and comment :halo:

I think you should write an article on 'How to Write an Article'.
You know ya wanna :wink:








Baden November 07, 2019 at 09:34 #349854
Reply to Amity

Check out all this attention. @Banno eat your heart out. :wink:

Actually, I've started a blog on various aspects of writing on my site, including how to write academic articles. What I might do here is write an article on argumentation (claims, reasons, warrants, and evidence etc). Anyhow, we're off-topic, so I'll shut up now. Feel free to send a PM about any of this and thanks for the encouragement. :up:
Amity November 07, 2019 at 09:49 #349856
Quoting Baden
Check out all this attention. Banno eat your heart out. :wink:


You guys :roll:

Quoting Baden
What I might do here is write an article on argumentation (claims, reasons, warrants, and evidence etc)


Excellent :up:
Make it so, number one.

Quoting Baden
Anyhow, we're off-topic, so I'll shut up now

Well, not really and please don't.

While I enjoy the lists of current reads, I like it even more when there's a bit of a conversation or review. Like here:
Quoting Maw
you gotta tell me how you like the Brown book.
— StreetlightX
Finished it a few days back and really enjoyed it...


Writing a TPF Book Review article would be a bit more challenging but would be easy to find, informative, insightful and inspiring.
How about it...?



Amity November 07, 2019 at 09:52 #349857
Quoting Baden
Actually, I've started a blog on various aspects of writing on my site, including how to write academic articles.


Didn't know that. Is there a link to this on TPF ?
Baden November 07, 2019 at 10:13 #349858
Reply to Amity

No. I try to keep that stuff separate. I've started writing something along the lines suggested though, so I'll keep you posted. :up:
Amity November 07, 2019 at 10:19 #349859
Quoting Baden
I try to keep that stuff separate


That's a shame. However, I understand the need to keep personal stuff separate. God knows you don't want to be deluged by fan mail :hearts:

Quoting Baden
I've started writing something along the lines suggested though, so I'll keep you posted


Look forward to reading it, thanks.

Baden November 07, 2019 at 19:04 #350023
Reply to Amity

Alright, did that. I put it in the learning centre for now: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/7014/effective-argumentation

Amity November 08, 2019 at 09:04 #350239
Reply to Baden
Thanks for that excellent read. My fuller response there :smile:
Baden November 08, 2019 at 09:45 #350244
Reply to Amity

And thanks for the push. :wink:
Chris Hughes November 08, 2019 at 10:10 #350249
Get a room...
Baden November 08, 2019 at 13:24 #350303
Chris Hughes November 08, 2019 at 14:09 #350322
Reply to Baden
A reading room, perhaps
Streetlight November 08, 2019 at 14:18 #350324
Quoting Chris Hughes
A reading room, perhaps


Woah woah woah. I donno if this kind of highly charged erotic language is allowed here.
Chris Hughes November 08, 2019 at 14:28 #350327
Well, I've been reading 50 Shades of Grey. (Not really.)
Chris Hughes November 08, 2019 at 14:37 #350328
Actually, I've been reading five non-philosophy books. The one possibly fit to mention here is Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire, "a searing modern polemic... from the BAFTA and MOBO award-winning musician and political commentator, Akala", as UK bookseller Waterstones' synopsis has it.
_db November 20, 2019 at 00:38 #354309
Serotonin by Michel Houellebecq
180 Proof November 20, 2019 at 15:12 #354518
november-december readings:

Mythmakers & Lawbreakers, ed. Margaret Killjoy
Peter Watts is An Angry Sentient Tumor, Peter Watts

re-reading

Poor Economics, Abhijit Banerjee & Esther Duflo
The Sublime Reader, ed. Robert Clewis
The Source of Self-Regard, Toni Morrison
Murray Talks Music, Albert Murray
The Nearest Thing to Life, James Wood
Pantagruel November 21, 2019 at 17:04 #354869
"Chaos and Complexity in Psychology" - finishing today
"Essay on Philosophical Method" - R.G. Collingwood, underway
"Analysis of Sensations and Relation of the Physical to the Psychical" - Ernst Mach - starting tomorrow

Wanted to start Popper's 3 volume "Postscript to the Logic of Scientific Discovery" but volume 1 is hung up from a tardy Amazon vendor. :(
Streetlight November 25, 2019 at 16:43 #356223
Wolfgang Streek - Buying Time: The Delayed Crisis of Democratic Capitalism
Baden November 25, 2019 at 16:55 #356233
Jason Stanley - How Propaganda Works

https://press.princeton.edu/books/paperback/9780691173429/how-propaganda-works
Baden November 25, 2019 at 17:00 #356235
Reply to StreetlightX

Looks good. On the list.
Streetlight November 28, 2019 at 11:07 #357002
Reply to Baden It's actually really, really good. It was originally published in 2014 but it's positively prophetic when read in the light of even just 5 years onward, and it really helps make sense of just so much that seems to be happening in the world. Basic idea is that the alliance between democracy and capitalism was only ever a post-war détente, and that since the 70s the two have been prying further and further apart, to the benefit of capitalism - much due to the mechanism of sovereign debt. It's a pretty impressive piece of scholarship.
Baden November 28, 2019 at 22:55 #357118
Reply to StreetlightX

Right up my street. On mah kindle now. :strong:
180 Proof November 29, 2019 at 22:43 #357368
Die Philosophie der Erlösung, Phillip Mainländer [rough, unpublished, english translation]

The Color of Money, Mehrsa Baradaran
Serotonin, Michel Houellebecq
Flow Down Like Silver, Ki Longfellow
The Secret Magdelene, Ki Longfellow
Why Trust Science?, Naomi Oreskes
The Color of Law, Richard Rothstein**
Understanding Consciousness, Max Velmans

@Bitter Crank Thanks!**
Valentinus November 29, 2019 at 23:15 #357372
Memoirs of Hadrian, Marguerite Yourcenar
Various bits by Judith Shklar, particularly the Liberalism of Fear.
Works of Love, Soren Kierkegaard.

I didn't intend it to be so but they are oddly related.
Maw November 30, 2019 at 04:35 #357484
Quoting 180 Proof
• The Color of Money, Mehrsa Baradaran


Heard wonderful things about this
180 Proof November 30, 2019 at 07:19 #357501
Reply to Maw You've heard right. (A third of the way in it feels like I've read it before though.)
Pantagruel December 01, 2019 at 17:09 #357982
Finished the R.G. Collingwood.

The last chapter, on philosophy as literature, really is world class and worth reading on its own.

Finally get to start Popper's trilogy postscript to the logic of scientific discovery: Volume 1 - Realism and the Aim of Science.
Amity December 01, 2019 at 17:31 #357988
Quoting Pantagruel
Essay on Philosophical Method" - R.G. Collingwood, underway...[now finished]

Quoting Pantagruel
The last chapter, on philosophy as literature, really is world class and worth reading on its own.


I noticed your reference to it here:
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/7179/opposing-perspectives-of-truth

It has good reviews, including your own. Might be tempted...






Pantagruel December 01, 2019 at 17:50 #357991
Reply to Amity It's all good, but everything really converges in the last two chapters, so a very rewarding read.
Pantagruel December 01, 2019 at 17:54 #357994
Quoting Valentinus
I didn't intend it to be so but they are oddly related.


I always take that as a good sign that I am learning the right things....
Amity December 01, 2019 at 18:15 #357996
Quoting Valentinus
Memoirs of Hadrian, Marguerite Yourcenar
Various bits by Judith Shklar, particularly the Liberalism of Fear.
Works of Love, Soren Kierkegaard.

I didn't intend it to be so but they are oddly related.


How so ?
Pantagruel December 01, 2019 at 18:20 #357997
Reply to Amity That my intuitions are sound, that I have taken away good information. I have often selected books from a variety of fields and found strong thematic connections. In one sense not surprising as my choice is based on what I have already read.
Amity December 01, 2019 at 18:36 #357999
Reply to Pantagruel

Yes, I understand that we tend to choose books related to our interests.
I have sometimes lived dangerously :naughty: and gone for the opposite to my usual :gasp:

I was asking @Valentinus why his books were oddly related.

Valentinus December 01, 2019 at 21:49 #358015
Reply to Amity
The first book I listed is a fiction, presenting an emperor musing on the best kind of Empire to shape.

The second is a series of essays arguing that we need to place the effort to oppose cruelty and the usurpation of publicly granted powers over the articulation of what is the best polity.

The third book explores the command to love one another in terms of personal responsibility. As a manual, if you will, it is not based upon establishing what is secular versus the sacred but having those distinctions come out of the awareness of what love requires. It doesn't oppose previous arguments from Augustine and the Scholastics but sort of turns them inside out.

So what oddly connects them are their interests in expressing what a community is or not. A desire to know what to do next.
Streetlight December 02, 2019 at 11:30 #358278
Yanis Varoufakis - The Global Minotaur: America, Europe and the Future of the Global Economy
Yanis Varoufakis - And the Weak Suffer What They Must? Europe's Crisis and America's Economic Future
180 Proof December 02, 2019 at 11:36 #358280
The Demon in the Machine, Paul Davies
The Rationality Quotient, Keith Stanovich, et al

Reply to StreetlightX :up:
Amity December 02, 2019 at 17:52 #358392
Quoting Valentinus
The first book I listed is a fiction, presenting an emperor musing on the best kind of Empire to shape.


Thanks for further explanation.
Of the 3, the first sounds most like my cuppa tea.

Memoirs of Hadrian, Marguerite Yourcenar.
According to wiki:
The book takes the form of a letter to Hadrian's adoptive grandson and eventual successor "Mark" (Marcus Aurelius). The emperor meditates on military triumphs, love of poetry and music, philosophy, and his passion for his lover Antinous, all in a manner similar to Gustave Flaubert's "melancholy of the antique world."

Great reviews on goodreads site. This really appealed to me until I read this from academic Mary Beard:
Mary Beard:..Hadrian is the kind of political leader whose behaviour seems distinctly recognisable, whose ambitions and conflicts we can almost share.
That feeling of familiarity has been boosted by Marguerite Yourcenar's fictional, pseudo-autobiography of the emperor, Memoirs of Hadrian. Published in 1951, and once hugely popular (it now seems to me rambling and frankly unreadable), it took the modern reader inside Hadrian's psyche - presenting the emperor as a troubled and intimate friend, in much the same way as Robert Graves made the emperor Claudius a rather jolly great-uncle. 

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2008/jul/19/history
[ my bolds ]

Hmmm. Do you think this simply reflects the annoyance of a serious historian towards a fictionalised account. A misrepresentation; putting words put into Hadrian's his mouth that weren't his. And then any subsequent requotes by readers...fake.

It can't be 'frankly unreadable' if so many have read it !










Valentinus December 03, 2019 at 01:44 #358495
Reply to Amity
It is pretty obvious that one is hearing what Yourcenar thinks during the book more than a transcription of what Hadrian thinks. I happen to be interested in what Yourcenar thinks.

I understand why the whole enterprise might piss off an actual historian who has read all the source material. I benefited from reading Mary Beard's SPQR.

I always took the pleasure of historical fiction without mixing it up with the real thing. Other readers' aesthetics may bring different results. I do think Yourcenar is a better story teller than Graves in regards to presenting a Roman character of the kind presented by Beard's work.
180 Proof December 09, 2019 at 06:37 #360934
december 2019 (last month of the decade)

still working through november's readings, plus:

Poppy War: A Novel, R. F. Kuang
The Measure of Our Lives, Toni Morrison
Fires, Marguerite Yourcenar

re-reading:

A Mercy, Toni Morrison
Song of Solomon, Toni Morrison
Memoirs of Hadrian, Marguerite Yourcenar
The Abyss, or Zeno of Bruges, Marguerite Yourcenar
Streetlight December 12, 2019 at 11:30 #362162
Thomas Moynihan - Spinal Catastrophism: A Secret History

I hadn't planned on reading this, I started just to see what it would be like and now I'm more than halfway though... oops. Still. A nice break from Varoufakis, who is getting a bit drudgy for me. It's so good though...

"What then is the spinal column, if not a megalith raised to the mineralizing trace of the organism’s diaspora into its own bloating sensorium—each level of axial segmentation a monument to further neural self-entanglement— dorsally fulgurating our cephalocaudal axis, an outward memory of inward collapse? Indeed, despite the fact that cephalopods exhibit extravagantly complex nervous organization, the most integrated and encephalized CNSs belong unequivocally to vertebrates, for whom metameric spinal regionalization repeats into compartmentalizing brain. A pulsing paradox, intelligence enters the worldly scene by emigrating into its own chronotope."
Baden December 12, 2019 at 21:00 #362279
Quoting StreetlightX
Thomas Moynihan - Spinal Catastrophism: A Secret History


Having a read now. Strangely compelling despite (or maybe because of) the convoluted prose. (Being too lazy to find my own books, I'm just going to keep piggybacking on you and probably @180 Proof and @Maw too).
Streetlight December 13, 2019 at 02:16 #362409
Reply to Baden It's pretty fun right? Ended up finishing it on the same day. Definitely has a momentum to it, and the short chapters help.
Artemis December 13, 2019 at 02:24 #362416
Martha Nussbaum, Love's Knowledge

Her take on the philosophical content of literature. It helps that her own prose is positively divine.

It's dense too though, because she's one of the smartest, most knowledgeable people on the planet regarding philosophy, literature, and history.
arkanon December 13, 2019 at 19:24 #362680
Currently reading: Night Watch, by Terry Pratchett
Baden December 13, 2019 at 20:54 #362740
Reply to StreetlightX

Well done on getting through that in a day. Dude has some mfuckin' vocabulary going on. :lol:
Baden December 13, 2019 at 23:32 #362846
Bernard Stiegler - The Re-Enchantment of the World—The Value of spirit against Industrial Populism
Streetlight December 14, 2019 at 02:34 #362907
Reply to Baden To be honest I reckon that kind of language makes me read faster. Like, I'm leafing through Moynihan's PhD thesis right now (also really good), but because it's written in a more careful, academic manner, I'm reading it alot slower (or I should probably say - at my 'normal' pace). I think there's a kind of intellectual fun to be had in writing like that which is exhilarating.

Funnily enough the last book I tore through at that pace was Joseph Carew's Ontological Catastrophe, a book about Zizek which actually (as the title might give away) overlaps considerably in theme.

Also one day I will get around to reading Steigler.
180 Proof December 14, 2019 at 03:59 #362945
Reply to StreetlightX Do you recommend Ontological Catastrophe? If you haven't already read them, btw, add Stiegler's State of Shock & The Neganthropocene to the pile ...
Streetlight December 14, 2019 at 04:06 #362949
Reply to 180 Proof Highly. It's Zizek's metaphysics without the fluff, and the way in which it triangulates Kant, Schelling, and Spinoza is just incredible. A seriously good work of philosophy.

Re: Steigler, I have the first two volumes of Technics and Time sitting under my bed, I just need to get round to them.
180 Proof December 14, 2019 at 04:30 #362956
Reply to StreetlightX :up: :cool:
Maw December 15, 2019 at 04:22 #363219
A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens
The Black Jacobins by C.L.R. James

Quoting 180 Proof
Toni Morrison


I met her several years ago she was very lovely.
Streetlight December 17, 2019 at 06:17 #363880
Maurizio Lazzarato - Signs and Machines: Capitalism and the Production of Subjectivity
Paolo Virno - Deja Vu and the End of History

A couple of Italians to round off the year.
Pantagruel December 18, 2019 at 21:53 #364379
R.G. Collingwood - The Idea of History
A compilation of his later essays on the subject
I like sushi December 19, 2019 at 06:13 #364523
Nationalism - Rabindranath Tagore
Streetlight December 23, 2019 at 10:11 #365507
Self Christmas gift(s) arrived :D

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Maw December 23, 2019 at 14:04 #365533
Reply to StreetlightX Origin of Capitalism so good!
SophistiCat December 23, 2019 at 15:19 #365548
Capping off the year with Time Regained. Took me most of the year to get through all of A la recherche... (though I read other things in between).

Thinking of tackling Ulysses at last. I've read Dubliners and Portrait, but for this one I'd like to find a good annotated edition. Problem is that the text is in the public domain, which means that the ebook market is flooded by cheap crappy editions that often can't even get typesetting right, let alone supporting material. One of Amazon's pricier offerings (among dozens) boasts a "functioning table of contents!" and "annotations" in the form of a short New York Times review (from the same year, and presumably also in the public domain). One proudly lists the title in all caps as "ULYSSES - BY JANE AUSTEN."
Pantagruel December 24, 2019 at 13:29 #365708
Reading a just-defended dissertation entitled "Into the Heart of Systems Change" by Anneloes Smitsman. It's over six-hundred pages but is very readable. Available as a PDF if anyone is curious.
Pantagruel December 24, 2019 at 13:58 #365711
Quoting SophistiCat
Capping off the year with Time Regained. Took me most of the year to get through all of A la recherche... (though I read other things in between).

Thinking of tackling Ulysses at last.


Ulysses I found a bit of a mountain to climb. Proust has been on my to do list forever, but I fear it will be even steeper than Ulysses...
180 Proof December 25, 2019 at 07:01 #365932
From Sorrow's Well: The Poetry of Hayden Carruth, e.d. Shaun T. Griffin
The Aesthetics of Meaning and Thought, Mark Johnson
Creating Wealth: Growing Local Economies with Local Currencies, Gwendolyn Hallsmith & Bernard Lietaer


re-reading

Last Poems, Hayden Carruth
Sitting In, Hayden Carruth

Quoting Maw
Toni Morrison
— 180 Proof

I met her several years ago she was very lovely.


Likewise. I'd attended a few readings / lectures she'd given in the late 1980s and met her in 1990 at a private dinner given in her honor by William Kennedy (I crashed that party as Hayden Carruth's last minute wingman (HC was invited, I wasn't)), which, for me, had turned out to be an incredible evening, especially Ms. Morrison, who was by turns easily charming & brilliant, down home funny & regal.
Per Chance December 25, 2019 at 08:28 #365957
The Open Society and Its Enemies, Karl Popper.
Streetlight December 25, 2019 at 12:21 #365992
Quoting 180 Proof
The Aesthetics of Meaning and Thought, Mark Johnson


MJ is bae.

Quoting Maw
Origin of Capitalism so good!


Looking forward to reading it :D
SophistiCat December 25, 2019 at 14:05 #366005
Quoting Pantagruel
Ulysses I found a bit of a mountain to climb.


Yeah, that's why I am looking for a helping hand :) I might just end up plowing through it unassisted, but from what I have heard about this book, I fear I'll miss too much this way.

Quoting Pantagruel
Proust has been on my to do list forever, but I fear it will be even steeper than Ulysses...


Proust may be a stretch in terms of shear length (of everything, down to individual sentences that can run for pages), but in form and style the books are not a long stretch from the classic 19th century Bildungsroman. It is the subject, which alternates minutely detailed observations of the outside and the inner world, and ruminations on the nature of memory and (at long last) art, that may present a challenge if you are not receptive to it. (It does not help that his self-absorbed alter ego is not all that sympathetic.)
Janus December 26, 2019 at 00:15 #366123
Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change William Catton

Read it and weep!
iceblink luck December 26, 2019 at 01:34 #366135
Reading/using:

Levinas - Totality and Infinity: An Essay on Exteriority
Ricoeur - Symbolism of Evil
Derrida - "Violence and Metaphysics," in Writing and Difference
Husserl - Cartesian Meditations & Ideas I
Anonymous - The Cloud of Unknowing
Lacan - "The Agency of the Letter in the Unconscious, or Reason Since Freud"

Want to revisit:

Klossowski - The Baphomet

I'm very stop-and-start with the way I read, but usually I manage to finish most if not all of a given book/essay. Getting really into phenomenology but also trying to find ways to connect it with theology, psychoanalysis, critical theory, etc. Any recommendations for phenomenology would be appreciated.
Streetlight December 27, 2019 at 10:55 #366389
End of year reading summary! 42 books, which is a little less than last year, but was definitely slowed down by the Cavell readings - The Claim of Reason alone took me two months. Was worth it though. Three themes that I revolved around - Wittgenstein and math, Deleuze, and a bunch of politics/political theory (especially regarding debt). Still working on getting a decent gender balance. Bold indicates favourites.

Wittgenstein(ish) + Math

Jose Bernadete - Infinity: An Essay in Metaphysics
Ludwig Wittgenstein - Remarks on the Foundations of Mathematics (Also got 2/3s of the way through the Lectures on the Foundations of Mathematics, but DNF, so it doesn't count!).
Henry Staten - Wittgenstein and Derrida
Noson Yanofsky - The Outer Limits of Reason: What Science, Mathematics, and Logic Cannot Tell Us
Stanley Cavell - The Claim of Reason: Wittgenstein, Skepticism, Morality, and Tragedy
Stanley Cavell - Must We Mean What We Say?: A Book of Essays
Stanley Cavell - Conditions Handsome and Unhandsome: The Constitution of Emersonian Perfectionism: The Carus Lectures, 1988
Sara Ellenbogen - Wittgenstein's Account of Truth
Peter Winch - The Idea of a Social Science and Its Relation to Philosophy
G. E. M. Anscombe - Intention
Hanna Pitkin - Wittgenstein and Justice: On the Significance of Ludwig Wittgenstein for Social and Political Thought

Deleuze (Logic of Sense reading)

John Sellars - Stoicism
Carlo Rovelli - The Order of Time
Piotrek Swiatkowski - Deleuze and Desire: Analysis of "The Logic of Sense"
Gilles Deleuze - The Logic of Sense
Andrew Culp - Dark Deleuze
Eleanor Kaufman - Deleuze, The Dark Precursor: Dialectic, Structure, Being
Slavoj Zizek - Organs Without Bodies: Deleuze and Consequences
Gilles Deleuze/Leopold von Sacher-Masoch - Masochism: Coldness and Cruelty & Venus in Furs (two books in one, technically!)

Political Economy / Debt / Neoliberalism / Political Theory

Michel Feher - Rated Agency: Investee Politics in a Speculative Age
Christian Marazzi - The Violence of Financial Capitalism
David Graeber - Debt: The First 5,000 Years
Maurizio Lazzarato - The Making of the Indebted Man: An Essay on the Neoliberal Condition
Maurizio Lazzarato - Governing by Debt
Maurizio Lazzarato - Signs and Machines: Capitalism and the Production of Subjectivity
Wolfgang Streeck - Buying Time: The Delayed Crisis of Democratic Capitalism
Yanis Varoufakis - The Global Minotaur: America, Europe and the Future of the Global Economy
Yanis Varoufakis - And the Weak Suffer What They Must?: Europe, Austerity and the Threat to Global Stability
Wendy Brown - In the Ruins of Neoliberalism: The Rise of Antidemocratic Politics in the West
Patchen Markell - Bound by Recognition
Hanna Pitkin - The Concept of Representation
Jodi Dean - The Communist Horizon
Jodi Dean - Crowds and Party

Misc

Natasha Lennard - Being Numerous: Essays on Non-Fascist Life
Jane Goodal - The Politics of the Common Good: Dispossession in Australia
Matthew Warren - Blackout: How is Energy-Rich Australia Running Out of Electricity
Joseph Carew - Ontological Catastrophe: Žižek and the Paradoxical Metaphysics of German Idealism
Giorgio Agamben - Opus Dei: An Archaeology of Duty (reread)
Thomas Moynihan - Spinal Catastrophism: A Secret History
Giovanni Maddalena - The Philosophy of Gesture: Completing Pragmatists' Incomplete Revolution
Paolo Virno - Deja Vu and the End of History
Henry Staten - Nietzsche's Voice

--

Still reading the Virno book, but will probably start the new year catching up on some Judith Butler books, before going back to political economy again. So to prempt:

Judith Butler - Excitable Speech: A Politics of the Performative
Judith Butler - Notes Toward a Performative Theory of Assembly

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to everyone :)
David Carroll December 28, 2019 at 04:10 #366648
The Monadology by Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz. I'm trying to play devil's advocate while reading it. I'm trying to see if he really succeeded in proving the existence of his Monads.
Maw December 28, 2019 at 07:04 #366671
Quoting 180 Proof
Likewise. I'd attended a few readings / lectures she'd given in the late 1980s and met her in 1990 at a private dinner given in her honor by William Kennedy (I crashed that party as Hayden Carruth's last minute wingman (HC was invited)), which, for me, had turned out to be an incredible evening, especially Ms. Morrison, who was by turns easily charming & brilliant, down home funny & regal.


Excellent, very jealous, although I doubt you want to know where I was in 1990 :razz:
180 Proof December 28, 2019 at 11:33 #366715
Quoting Maw
Excellent, very jealous, although I doubt you want to know where I was in 1990 :razz:


I was gainfully slinging drinks (with my homie Dave, who happened to be HC's son), unpublishably scribbling, tramping around (south of the border or across the pond) whenever I was flush and, when I wasn't, killing time with sundry sordid side-hustles :zip: ... just to put off going back to grad school. Anyway. Your turn, Maw - what no good were you up to way back when? :smirk:

Maw December 29, 2019 at 04:50 #366875
Reply to 180 Proof Depends on what month it was, but I was either in my mother's womb or shitting in my crib :monkey:
180 Proof December 29, 2019 at 07:01 #366877
Reply to Maw :snicker: :up:
Maw December 30, 2019 at 16:46 #367174
One-Dimensional Man by Herbert Marcuse
Maw December 30, 2019 at 16:54 #367176
Let's see in 2019 I read:

Essayism: On Form, Feeling, and Non-Fiction by Brian Dillion
The Origin of Capitalism by Ellen Meiksins Wood
Capitalist Realism: Is There No Alternative by Mark Fisher
The Fire Next Time by James Baldwin
Crime and Punish by Michel Foucault
Postmodernism, or, the Cultural Logic of Late Capitalism by Fredric Jameson
Kids These Days: The Making of Millennials by Malcom Harris
Dune by Frank Herbert
The Society of the Spectacle by Guy Debord
Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War by Michael Isikoff and David Corn
From Slavery to the Cooperative Commonwealth: Labor and Republican Liberty in the Nineteenth Century by Alex Gourevitch
Capital In the 21st Century by Thomas Piketty
Private Government: How Employers Rule Our Lives (and Why We Don't Talk about It) by Elizabeth Anderson
White Identity Politics by Ashley Jardina
The Prince by Machiavelli
Grundrisse by Marx
Prison Notebooks by Antonio Gramsci
The Eighteenth Brumaire of Louis Napoleon by Marx
Theses on Feuerbach by Marx
The Limits of Capital by David Harvey
Trick Mirror: Reflections on Self-Delusion by Jia Tolentino
The World of Late Antiquity: AD 150-750 by Peter Brown
Black Rights/White Wrongs: The Critique of Racial Liberalism by Charles Mills
In the Ruins of Neoliberalism: The Rise of Antidemocratic Politics in the West by Wendy Brown
The Phenomenology of Spirit by Hegel
A Generation of Sociopaths: How the Baby Boomers Betrayed America by Bruce Gibney
A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens
The Black Jacobins by C.L.R. James
One-Dimensional Man by Herbert Marcuse
Wheatley January 02, 2020 at 11:14 #367820
A few a weeks ago I decided to implement a couple of rules. No electronics near my bed, (except a book light) and one book at a time (I don't start another book until I'm finished with the first one). I created a bit of a reading habit, lying in bed with nothing else to do. I found out that I can read, after all.

In the past few weeks I read (in chronological order):

The Wind in the Willows by Kenneth Grahame
Little House on the Prairie by Laura Ingalls Wilder
Atomic Habits by James Clear
A Long Way Gone: memoirs of a boy soldier
Streetlight January 06, 2020 at 13:03 #369035
Quoting Wheatley
one book at a time


This is the most important thing! Makes all the difference.

CR (one after the other, of course...):

Judith Butler - Precarious Life: The Powers of Mourning and Violence
Judith Butler - Frames of War: When Is Life Grievable?
Isabell Lorey - State of Insecurity: Government of the Precarious
iolo January 06, 2020 at 13:26 #369038
Reading a book about how to face death. In the world of Trump and Johnson it seems the only subject worth exploring.
Pantagruel January 11, 2020 at 20:07 #370635
"Quantum Field Theory Demystified" by David McMahon
"The Open Universe" by Karl Popper
Streetlight January 17, 2020 at 09:01 #372468
Jerome Roos - Why Not Default?: The Political Economy of Sovereign Debt (SO GOOD; ESSENTIAL READING)
Ellen Meiskins Wood - The Origin of Capitalism: A Longer View
Ellen Meiskins Wood - Democracy Against Capitalism: Renewing Historical Materialism
180 Proof January 17, 2020 at 10:28 #372480
Pathfinders: The Golden Age Of Arabic Science, Jim Al-Khalili
Ontological Catastrophe, Joseph Carew
The Philosophical Thought of Wang Chong, Alexus McLeod
The Racial Contract, Charles Mills
The Canon of Supreme Mystery by Yang Hsiung, Michael Nylan

*

re-reading

Maimonides and Spinoza, Joshua Parens
The Silmarillion, J.R.R. Tolkien - in honor of his son, literary executor & editor Christopher Tolkien 1924-2020
Maw January 20, 2020 at 17:40 #373583
The Age of Revolution 1789 - 1848 by Eric Hobsbawm
Health Justice Now: Single Payer and What Comes Next by Timothy Faust
Noble Dust January 20, 2020 at 23:12 #373722
The Witch - David Lindsay
Declare - Tim Powers
Journeys Out Of The Body - Robert Monroe
Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind - Shunry? Suzuki

On deck:

Dark Knight Of The Soul - St. John Of The Cross
The City & the City - China Miéville

Ongoing:

The I Ching
Umbra January 22, 2020 at 21:32 #374450
Jacques Ellul - The Technological Society. One of the most important works of the 20th century, in my humble opinion.

Also, hello everyone! Been away for a number of years, but it's great to see many familiar faces still haunting the forums.
180 Proof January 24, 2020 at 02:51 #374861
Anticipating Denis Villeneuve's Dune film (Part 1) later this year (on 12/23 in the U.S.) - perhaps setting myself up for disappointment, but still - I'm rereading (for the nth time) only the first four books of Frank Herbert's saga:

Dune (1965)
Dune Messiah (1969)
Children of Dune (1976)
God Emperor of Dune (1981)

plus

The Dune Encyclopedia, William McNelly & others (1984), with forward by Frank Herbert (1983)

Noble Dust January 24, 2020 at 05:02 #374913
Quoting Umbra
Jacques Ellul - The Technological Society


I started this a few years ago, and always think of it, and need to go back. Any thoughts?
Wayfarer January 26, 2020 at 23:01 #375913
Anyone read or reading Self-Consciousness and Objectivity: An Introduction to Absolute Idealism, Sebastian Rodl ?

(The first sentence of the abstract makes a point I've been working towards ever since starting to post on forums.)

Quoting Noble Dust
Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind - Shunry? Suzuki


Foundational text for me.
_db January 27, 2020 at 06:03 #376036
Serotonin by Houellebecq

Quoting 180 Proof
Dune (1965)


:up: one of my favorites
Pantagruel January 27, 2020 at 12:00 #376104
"Systemic Thinking - Vol. 1: Aspects of the Philosophy of Mario Bunge"
I wanted to read Bunge himself, but his books are way too pricey.

Streetlight January 27, 2020 at 12:04 #376107
Quoting 180 Proof
Ontological Catastrophe, Joseph Carew


Whaddya reckon btw?
praxis January 27, 2020 at 15:56 #376152
Quoting 180 Proof
• The Aesthetics of Meaning and Thought, Mark Johnson


At a glance it looks like this book is highly rated. You like?
Pantagruel January 31, 2020 at 22:58 #377572
Shelved the Systemic Thinking book as it is basically a short handbook for experimental design and methodology. Interesting, but just too tedious - I like to read about the experimental results but designing them is a ways off. lol.

So Popper's Quantum Theory and the Schism in Physics, volume three of his Postscript. They've been getting progressively more engaging....

edit: added The Portable Karl Marx into the mix. Ever since reading the thread suggesting a group read of Das Kapital I have been keen to really dig into Marx. This edition has an excellent preface/biography/chronology, so important to contextualize someone like Marx, I think.
Streetlight February 06, 2020 at 10:42 #379336
Ian Buchanan - Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus: A Readers Guide
Eugene Holland - Deleuze and Guattari's Anti-Oedipus: An Introduction to Schizoanalysis
Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari - Anti-Oedipus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia

And once more into the Deleuzian breach.
180 Proof February 06, 2020 at 17:04 #379436
The Black And The Blue - Matthew Horace
Overground Railroad,  Candacy Taylor

*

re-reading

In honor of George Steiner 1929-2020

The Death of Tragedy (1961)
In Bluebeard's Castle (1971)
Heidegger (1978)
After Babel (1975, 1998)
Real Presences (1989)
Pantagruel February 09, 2020 at 19:13 #380706
Added Critique of Dialectical Reason (Sartre) into the mix. I have theDeathgate Cycle by Weiss/Hickman on the go too.
Maw February 22, 2020 at 01:42 #384902
The Triumph of Injustice: How the Rich Dodge Taxes and How to Make Them Pay by Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman (data greatly influence Sanders' and Warren's tax proposals)

War and War by Laszlo Krasznahorkai
Noble Dust February 22, 2020 at 02:24 #384919
Recent weird fiction:

The Witch - David Lindsay
The City And The City - China Miéville
NVK - Temple Drake
Pantagruel February 22, 2020 at 14:33 #385076
Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism - Max Weber
Streetlight February 28, 2020 at 16:38 #386913
Ellen Meiksins Wood - The Pristine Culture of Capitalism: An Essay on Old Regimes and Modern State

Was a toss up between this and some other Deleuze-inspired stuff but I need a serious break from that kind of thing just at the moment. It's also one of my new goals to read everything Wood has ever written.

Quoting Pantagruel
Systemic Thinking - Vol. 1: Aspects of the Philosophy of Mario Bunge"


He passed away just the other day :sad: I still have two of his books sitting under my bed - one day I'll get round to reading them!
Maw February 28, 2020 at 17:43 #386943
Quoting StreetlightX
It's also one of my new goals to read everything Wood has ever written


:100:
180 Proof March 01, 2020 at 09:34 #387454
march readings:

The Philosophy of Samuel Beckett, John Calder
The Theology of Samuel Beckett, John Cauler
Until the End of Time, Brian Greene
Ineffability and Its Metaphysics, Silvia Jonas
Yinyang, Robin R. Wang
Streetlight March 02, 2020 at 18:32 #387752
Silvia Federici - Caliban and the Witch: Women, The Body, and Primitive Accumulation

Heard nothing but universal praise for this. Keen to finally delve in!
Pantagruel March 03, 2020 at 10:48 #387956
Quoting StreetlightX
He passed away just the other day :sad: I still have two of his books sitting under my bed - one day I'll get round to reading them!


Most of Bunge's stuff is ungodly expensive. Definitely something I want in my library versus borrowing though.

Starting Quantum Shift in the Global Brain by Ervin Laszlo

The Protestant Ethic was a surprisingly good read.
Streetlight March 06, 2020 at 02:11 #388886
Pierre Clastres - Society Against the State: Essays in Political Anthropology
Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari - A Thousand Plateaus: Capitalism and Schizophrenia, Vol. 2
Eugene Holland - Deleuze and Guattari's 'A Thousand Plateaus': A Reader's Guide
Brent Adkins - Deleuze and Guattari's A Thousand Plateaus : A Critical Introduction and Guide

Should keep me occupied for the next month or so.
Deleteduserrc March 06, 2020 at 02:36 #388891
Reply to StreetlightX or the next two seasons! thats a list. i feel like thousand plateaus is a boss in an rpg you fight too early and only confront prepared later on.
Streetlight March 06, 2020 at 03:01 #388896
Quoting csalisbury
i feel like thousand plateaus is a boss in an rpg you fight too early and only confront prepared later on.


I know! I feel that way too. I would have liked to have spent more time on preparatory reading (Hjelmslev and Jakobson in particular), but I'm reading it concurrently with a course that a local philosophy school is running, so... Ah well. Force of the encounter and all that.
Pantagruel March 06, 2020 at 13:20 #389012
Quantum Shift in the Global Brain by Ervin Laszlo
Maw March 08, 2020 at 03:34 #389543
Quoting StreetlightX
Silvia Federici - Caliban and the Witch: Women, The Body, and Primitive Accumulation

Heard nothing but universal praise for this. Keen to finally delve in!


Same, lemme know your thoughts.

The Expanding Blaze: How the American Revolution Ignited the World, 1775-1848 by Jonathan Israel
Streetlight March 08, 2020 at 07:12 #389587
Quoting Maw
Same, lemme know your thoughts.


It's a very solid read. The first half of the book is actually more about the history of various peasant resistance movements against feudal power (the Church and the state in particular), while the second half of the book deals with the witch hunts ("Wtich") and colonialism in the Americas ("Caliban'). The stuff on feudal resistance was really interesting to me, alot of the names were new and it was fascinating to read about entire social uprisings that I had never heard of before. Federici's focus on woman in particular makes for really good reading too - she really brings out just how much of women's oppression was and remains political (i.e. intentional responses to socio-economic considerations) and not just some expression of pre-social bias or whathaveyou.

One thing that bothered me slightly was the under-specification of capitalism. She pitches the book as (among other things) a social history of women during the transition to capitalism in Europe, but she doesn't really say much about what constitutes the transition itself: she talks about the enclosure of land and of 'bodies' (i.e. the destruction of community and the atomization of society) as emblematic of capitalism (and she does this really well), but it's not clear why this counts as specifically a capitalist phenomenon (not saying it isn't, only that Federici doesn't make explicit her assumptions).

But otherwise, it really does good work in placing reproduction at the centre of any critique of capitalism, and showing just how implicated it is in any critique of a 'mode of production'. Also gave me a new appreciation - on the basis of class - for the occult in general. As in, the occult and the magical as a site of resistance to the subsumption under capitalist imperatives to universal commercialization. Alot more historical than philosophical, which wasn't what I expected, but enjoyed nonetheless.




180 Proof March 09, 2020 at 20:32 #390166
Capital and Ideology, Thomas Piketty
Maw March 09, 2020 at 22:04 #390206
Quoting 180 Proof
Capital and Ideology, Thomas Piketty


Let me know your thoughts as well, I enjoyed Capital, but have been hearing mostly negative reviews for this.
Pantagruel March 12, 2020 at 10:31 #391105
Jurgen Habermas' Theory of Communicative Action Volume I: Reason and the Rationalization of Society
Really been looking forward to starting this
180 Proof March 19, 2020 at 15:59 #393729
Taking a brief *pandemic break* from Piketty's latest tome ...

re-reading:

The Plague, Albert Camus
Wittgenstein's Mistress, David Markson
The Road, Cormac McCarthy

:death: :flower:
Maw March 19, 2020 at 17:29 #393744
Quoting 180 Proof
The Plague, Albert Camus


Re-reading as well
Pantagruel March 19, 2020 at 19:08 #393801
Dickens' Hard Times

It's a very cool "Longman Cultural Edition" I found on a recent trip. It has a huge section called "Context" covering the social, political and economic conditions in England at the time of writing.
180 Proof March 19, 2020 at 19:30 #393806
180 Proof March 22, 2020 at 19:24 #394857
Quoting 180 Proof
Taking a brief *pandemic break* from Piketty's latest tome ...

re-reading:

The Plague, Albert Camus
Wittgenstein's Mistress, David Markson
The Road, Cormac McCarthy

... making it a "Doomsday Dozen" with 9 more novels (and no effin' vampires, zombies, etc):

Clay's Ark, Octavia Butler
The Pesthouse, Jim Crace
The Dog Stars, Peter Heller
The White Plague, Frank Herbert
Wool, Hugh Howey
The Children of Men, P. D. James
• The Trial, Franz Kafka
Year Zero, Jeff Long
Blindness, José Saramago

:death: :flower:
Alvin Capello March 22, 2020 at 19:29 #394865
Working my way through God, Existence, and Fictional Objects: The Case for Meinongian Theism John-Mark L. Miravalle. A very interesting little book which deals with some quite fundamental issues in philosophy of religion.

Also re-reading Heraclitus' Fragments. Always good to revisit these mysterious aphorisms.
Deleteduserrc March 22, 2020 at 21:17 #394926
Quoting Alvin Capello
Also re-reading Heraclitus' Fragments. Always good to revisit these mysterious aphorisms.


Still some of the best stuff out there.
180 Proof March 22, 2020 at 22:35 #394953
Quoting Alvin Capello
Working my way through God, Existence, and Fictional Objects: The Case for Meinongian Theism John-Mark L. Miravalle. A very interesting little book which deals with some quite fundamental issues in philosophy of religion.

Any commentary (even by way of review) on this book I'd appreciate. Meinong was a touchstone for my approach to 'the god question' over the last few decades. Thanks in advance.
Alvin Capello March 22, 2020 at 22:48 #394954
Reply to 180 Proof

I will be posting a full review of the book on my blog at alvincapello.com soon. I will be sure to dm you as soon as that happens.

But for some idea of the ground it covers, Miravalle suggests that Meinongianism provides a neat solution to the main problem areas of philosophy of religion. For instance, he suggests that Meinongianism provides the right interpretation for the Cosmological and Ontological Arguments (I agree with this).

The chapters I have not yet reached concern how Meinongianism can provide solutions to the Problem of Evil and the Problem of Divine Foreknowledge.

I also have been profoundly influenced by Meinong. Indeed, I am a full-fledged Meinongian, and it is a fundamental away that I approach philosophical problems.
Valentinus March 22, 2020 at 23:32 #394969
Reply to 180 Proof
I found Blindness by José Saramago to be the most terrifying thing I have ever read.
Its perfect logic sticks to everything I wonder about.
180 Proof March 23, 2020 at 05:25 #395044
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SophistiCat March 23, 2020 at 21:01 #395194
Quoting Valentinus
I found Blindness by José Saramago to be the most terrifying thing I have ever read.
Its perfect logic sticks to everything I wonder about.


I tried reading it a while ago, but... ugh.
Pantagruel April 02, 2020 at 21:51 #398641
Just entering The Old Curiosity Shop now.
Noble Dust April 03, 2020 at 04:37 #398757
Roadside Picnic - Arcady and Boris Strugatsky
Pantagruel April 08, 2020 at 00:31 #400016
Finally finished the Critique of Dialectical Reason; not an easy read.

Now for the really big project: Capital, Volume I. I have been keen to start this since seeing a thread on the forum suggesting a group reading of this work.
Maw April 08, 2020 at 01:49 #400026
Quoting Pantagruel
Now for the really big project: Capital, Volume I. I have been keen to start this since seeing a thread on the forum suggesting a group reading of this work.


It's so good
Pantagruel April 08, 2020 at 08:50 #400100
SophistiCat April 08, 2020 at 20:26 #400216
Read a couple of novels by George Sand. And staying with female writers named George, now reading George Eliot's Middlemarch.
Deleteduserrc April 08, 2020 at 21:02 #400226
An accounting textbook, god help me.

It's interesting though. It's easier to understand why corporations have come legally to be people when you can see exactly how actual people are already treated like corporations (who have only partial claim to their own assets, so that your name & ssn is an abstract entity whose assets the actual you relates to as one claimant among others)It also helps you realize exactly how the language of business inherently backgrounds everything else & how that can abstract you from everything else, out of fascination -without needing to introduce 'greed' as primary motivation. You can see getting sucked into it for the same reason people get sucked into RTS games etc (im being a good marxist here)

Also:
Austerlitz - W.G. Sebald (re-reading)
&
Guns, Germs & Steel (finally)


Nagase April 08, 2020 at 21:29 #400239
Currently, aside from math/logic textbooks, I'm reading a lot of cognitive psychology, especially the Oxford Series in Cognitive Development. I've just finished Jean Mandler's The Foundations of Mind: Origins of Conceptual Thought and Susan Gelman's The Essential Child: Origins of Essentialism in Everyday Thought, and am currently reading Susan Carey's The Origin of Concepts. Great stuff! These books demolish the idea, dear to Quine and others (including Piaget and Vigotsky), that children are, in the words of a theoretician, "dumb associatinist mechanisms", easily impressed with outward, perceptual appearances; instead, they are more like, in Gopnik's turn of phrase, little scientists, probing the world to find hidden causes and stable properties. Such books also have the added advantage of containing many anecdotes about the researchers' interaction with children, which are always funny or endearing.
frank April 08, 2020 at 23:21 #400273
Reply to csalisbury The idea of a corporation comes from Roman law and was part of the re-emergence of cities in Medieval Europe.

Reply to Nagase
Cool!
Deleteduserrc April 08, 2020 at 23:25 #400274
Reply to frank cool, I'd like to learn more about the history of business, its a blind spot for me.
180 Proof April 14, 2020 at 15:53 #401767
march-april readings

Year of the Flood, Margaret Atwood
The Dream Universe, David Lindley
The Sword and the Shield, Peniel E. Joseph
God, Existence, and Fictional Objects: The Case for Meinongian, Theism John-Mark L. Miravalle

re-reading:

Plagues and Peoples, William H. McNeill
Pale Horse, Pale Rider, Katherine Anne Porter
Pantagruel April 14, 2020 at 18:19 #401800
Finished Habermas' Theory of Communicative Action, Volume 1
so probably a good time to start
[i]The Theory of Communicative Action
Lifeworld and Systems, a Critique of Functionalist Reason, Volume 2[/i]
Noble Dust April 19, 2020 at 05:23 #403268
Just finished:

Roadside Picnic - Arkady and Boris Strugatsky -- Good, need to re-read, but Tarkovksy's film adaptation as "Stalker" was far better.

Just started:

The Last Days of New Paris - China Miéville (funny, I read far more fiction from the far left than anything else...it's good shit)

American Gods - Niel Gaiman
Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus - Wittgentsein (via the recent thread)

...On deck.
ztaziz April 19, 2020 at 09:04 #403329
The Golden Fleece - Thomas Frederick Page

Apparently it's a real language breaker...
Maw April 24, 2020 at 23:43 #405293
More of Gramsci's Prison Notebooks
The Age of Capital: 1848–1875 by Eric Hobsbawm
praxis April 25, 2020 at 00:17 #405316
Quoting 180 Proof
Clay's Ark, Octavia Butler


This looks good. I read one of her series and liked it a lot.
Neuron420 April 25, 2020 at 03:58 #405377
Currently reading:
"Hidden in Plain Sight: 6 Why Three Dimensions?", Andrew Thomas
[i]"The Transhumanist Wager"[i] , Zoltan Istvan
"The Elegant Universe: Superstrings, Hidden Dimensions, and the Quest for the Ultimate Theory", Brian Greene
"Balancing on Blue - Thru-Hiking the Appalachian Trail", Keith Foskett
Maw April 28, 2020 at 23:04 #407089
@180 Proof I'm looking for a Cioran quote, can't quite remember which book it was in, but the quote was basically about how he wanted to kill himself by 30 but he didn't do it. Ring any bells?
_db May 01, 2020 at 20:25 #408185
The Recursive Universe: Cosmic Complexity and the Limits of Scientific Knowledge by William Poundstone.

RIP John Conway.
180 Proof May 02, 2020 at 02:30 #408256
may readings

• [s]The Transhuman Wager, Zoltan Istvan[/s]

still reading

The Žižek Dictionary, ed. Rex Butler (plus tics, sniffles, obscene jokes, etc)
God, Existence, and Fictional Objects: The Case for Meinongian Theism, John-Mark L. Miravalle
Capital and Ideology, Thomas Piketty

Quoting Maw
@180 Proof I'm looking for a Cioran quote, can't quite remember which book it was in, but the quote was basically about how he wanted to kill himself by 30 but he didn't do it. Ring any bells?

I found these on a Cioran wikiquote page:

"I live only because it is in my power to die when I choose to: without the idea of suicide, I'd have killed myself right away." (All Gall Is Divided)

"If a man has not, by the time he is 30, yielded to the fascination of every form of extremism, I don't know if he is to be admired or scorned — a saint or a corpse." (History and Utopia)

"It's not worth the bother of killing yourself, since you always kill yourself too late." (The New Gods)


Baden May 02, 2020 at 19:21 #408531
Great Transformations: Economic Ideas and Institutional Change in the Twentieth Century. Mark Blyth.
frank May 02, 2020 at 19:57 #408544
Reply to Baden Me too.
Baden May 02, 2020 at 20:32 #408550
Maw May 07, 2020 at 00:28 #410176
Reply to 180 Proof Thanks for checking, although I don't think any of these are quite right, I'll keep looking
Maw May 07, 2020 at 00:30 #410177
Working-Class Formation: Nineteenth-Century Patterns in Western Europe and the United States edited by Ira Katznelson and Aristide R. Zolberg

The Red and the Black by Stendhal
Pantagruel May 09, 2020 at 17:59 #411076
Quoting Maw
Working-Class Formation: Nineteenth-Century Patterns in Western Europe and the United States edited by Ira Katznelson and Aristide R. Zolberg


:cool:

Huxley's Island for a bit of a change

GH Mead's, Mind, Self, and Society
180 Proof May 17, 2020 at 13:38 #413558
What We Can Never Know, David Gamez

Thanks for your OP (re: this book), jorndoe.
_db May 22, 2020 at 00:24 #414823
All Things Are Possible aka The Apotheosis of Groundlessness by Lev Shestov.
Streetlight May 23, 2020 at 04:17 #415117
I finished A Thousand Plateaus! Two and a bit months! What an absolutely wild, infuriating and edifying book. The longest I've taken to read something since maybe the Phenomenology of Perception. One more bit of secondary reading, then a palate cleanser after...

Eugene Holland - Deleuze and Guattari's A Thousand Plateaus
Ann Pettifor - The Production of Money: How to Break the Power of Bankers
Rae May 27, 2020 at 11:10 #416581
Started on The picture of Dorian Grey by Oscar Wilde. I'm sure some of you have read it?
Heracloitus May 27, 2020 at 11:16 #416582
Quoting Rae
Started on The picture of Dorian Grey by Oscar Wilde. I'm sure some of you have read it?


Yes. A couple of times. I wish Wilde had written more books!

I'm reading Powers of Time: Versions of Bergson by David Lapoujade
Rae May 27, 2020 at 11:37 #416588
Yes. A couple of times. I wish Wilde had written more books!

I'm reading Powers of Time: Versions of Bergson by David Lapoujade
@emancipate Cool! I actually just signed up on this forum, not sure how everything works yet. Hope I'm getting the quoting and mentioning right.. Want to read more of the classics and love to discuss deeper questions :)
Heracloitus May 27, 2020 at 12:16 #416595
Quoting Rae
Hope I'm getting the quoting and mentioning right


One quick way: When you highlight text a quote button will appear.
Rae May 27, 2020 at 12:45 #416599
Quoting emancipate
One quick way: When you highlight text a quote button will appear.


Ah! Thanks!
Pantagruel May 29, 2020 at 11:51 #417269
Made it through Capital, volume I in about seven weeks.

Starting Capital, volume II. It's the smallest of the three volumes, weighing in at a meagre 600 pages....

edit: finished Mind, Self, and Society - one of the best books I have ever read. I'd highly recommend this for anyone with an interest in social psychology.

On to Weber's Economy and Society now. I'll need to do another big book buy soon.

edit: throwing Sartor Resartus into the mix for good measure
180 Proof June 02, 2020 at 06:25 #419356
Covid summer days:

sat - Cormac McCarthy°
fri - Albert Murray
thurs - William Faulkner
wed - Toni Morrison
tues - José Saramago
mon - Samuel Beckett
sun - George Steiner

ANTIFA summer nights:

sun - Spinoza, Epicurus, Nussbaum ...
mon - blues (while (re)writing an essay/story)
tues - Cioran, Rosset, Arendt ...
wed - jazz (while (re)writing an essay/story)
thurs - histories / sciences
fri - blues & jazz (while (re)writing an essay/story)
sat - movies, documentaries or tv shows
_db June 03, 2020 at 02:19 #419777
What We Can Never Know by David Gamez. Thank you Reply to 180 Proof for thanking Reply to jorndoe, the title piqued my curiosity. Very interesting read!
path June 03, 2020 at 02:37 #419783
Quoting Pantagruel
throwing Sartor Resartus into the mix for good measure


Nice. I remember bumping into that in an anthology. Flavor.
Maw June 03, 2020 at 02:52 #419786
Quoting 180 Proof
(while (re)writing an essay/story)


:chin: :up:
Streetlight June 03, 2020 at 11:30 #419918
Mariana Mazzucato - The Value of Everything: Making and Taking in the Global Economy
Mariana Mazzucato - The Entrepreneurial State: Debunking Public vs. Private Sector Myths

Sicc'd on to these by @Maw I believe.
Josh Lee June 03, 2020 at 12:17 #419927
Escape from Freedom - Erich Fromm
Do the Work - Steven Pressfield
Maw June 03, 2020 at 23:20 #420091
Maw June 10, 2020 at 01:57 #422305
What should I read I'm kind of at a loss
_db June 10, 2020 at 02:30 #422310
Reply to Maw The Anatomy of Fascism was good.
Streetlight June 10, 2020 at 02:38 #422312
Reply to Maw Verso have a bunch of their books on the police for free download here atm:

https://www.versobooks.com/lists/4732-abolish-the-police
praxis June 10, 2020 at 19:27 #422509
The End of Growth by Richard Heinberg

Breath: The New Science of a Lost Art, by James Nestor
A fascinating book, well written, and important for anyone's good health.
Maw June 19, 2020 at 23:55 #425445
Reply to darthbarracuda Reply to StreetlightX

Thanks, but I think I'm just going to continue with 18th century stuff for the time being and slowly make my way to fascism and the police (same thing really)

Karl Marx: A Nineteenth-Century Life by Jonathan Sperber
The Age of Empire: 1875–1914 by Eric Hobsbawm
180 Proof June 20, 2020 at 00:22 #425452
[quote=Carlos Ruiz Zafón 1964-2020]Every book, every volume you see here, has a soul. The soul of the person who wrote it and of those who read it and lived and dreamed with it. Every time a book changes hands... its spirit grows and strengthens.[/quote]

re-reading:

The Shadow of the Wind
Streetlight June 20, 2020 at 14:59 #425634
Frantz Fanon - Black Skin, White Masks
Frantz Fanon - Wretched of the Earth

I've put off Fanon for too long, and this couldn't be a more appropriate time. I'm actually so excited.
180 Proof June 21, 2020 at 01:14 #425831
"When a bachelor of philosophy from the Antilles refuses to apply for certification as a teacher on the grounds of his color I say that philosophy has never saved anyone. When someone else strives and strains to prove to me that black men are as intelligent as white men I say that intelligence has never saved anyone: and that is true, for, if philosophy and intelligence are invoked to proclaim the equality of men, they have also been employed to justify the extermination of men." ~Frantz Fanon

Reply to StreetlightX Better late than never, comrade! :fire:
Sunlight June 21, 2020 at 07:15 #425913
How to Be an Antiracist by Ibram X. Kendi
Pantagruel June 22, 2020 at 13:06 #426290
Sybil: the Two Nations, by Benjamin Disraeli, the original novel of Victorian class struggle.

Sartor Resartus was a fantastic read, I'd highly recommend for anyone who truly loves the english language.

edit. Also finished Economy and Society, which was a grind. I'll move on to Dewey's Human Nature and Conduct, which should rather be a treat.
Baden June 23, 2020 at 17:27 #426880
Quoting StreetlightX
Frantz Fanon - Black Skin, White Masks


Also reading. :up:

Reply to praxis

Read that. Yeah, fascinating. Have my doubts about some of the science in the book but an idea definitely worth pursuing.
praxis June 24, 2020 at 00:52 #427079
Reply to Baden

It convinced me to become a dedicated nose breather. I had already been doing some breath work in meditation over the last few years but have stepped it up after reading the book, with the immediate goal of no longer snoring, for my wife's sake :grimace:, which is supposedly an attainable goal with the various practices and techniques outlined in the book.
Streetlight June 24, 2020 at 06:15 #427169
Quoting Baden
Also reading.


Man, the 5th chapter just... explodes. I wasn't expecting it. Wow.
Pantagruel June 24, 2020 at 11:06 #427240
Capital: Volume III
Baden June 24, 2020 at 21:28 #427492
Reply to StreetlightX

Ah, cool. I'm just near the end of chapter 4 now. :party:

Reply to praxis

That and more, I think. I started the hypoxic running today. Weird to run while feeling like you're suffocating but then you kind of get used to it and I can see potential. Good to be reminded that you have a body and not just a head full of thoughts.
praxis June 24, 2020 at 21:41 #427499
Reply to Baden

I've been practicing that with swimming, taking 5-9 strokes between breaths at a moderate pace. Can feel a slight headache sometimes.
Baden June 24, 2020 at 21:44 #427500
Reply to praxis

If you get an embolism or something from it, please let me know so that doesn't happen to me. :victory:
praxis July 01, 2020 at 21:23 #430692
Reply to Baden Still have what's left of my brain cells. :up:

The Infinite Game, by Simon Sinek

Supreme Inequality: The Supreme Court's Fifty-Year Battle for a More Unjust America, by Adam Cohen

Contrary to the popular belief that the Supreme Court is a champion of justice for the people, according to Cohen, the Supreme Court has always supported the rich and powerful except for a relatively short period around the 60' known as the 'Warren Court', when it had a liberal majority. Nixon somewhat underhandedly ended that majority and conservatives have been strategically maintaining it ever since. For some reason liberals look at it like a game of chance or something, and conservatives are playing chess.
Streetlight July 03, 2020 at 14:40 #431144
Ronald Bogue - Deleuze on Literature
DrOlsnesLea July 05, 2020 at 15:46 #431962
Paul Collier - The Future of Capitalism. Perhaps better than Thomas Piketty.
Pantagruel July 10, 2020 at 15:14 #433286
Talcott Parsons - The Structure of Social Action, Volume I
Juliet July 12, 2020 at 01:18 #433630
Nikolai Chernyshevsky - What Is to Be Done?
Fyodor Dostoevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
Noam Chomsky - Profit Over People: Neoliberalism and Global Order
Streetlight July 13, 2020 at 15:46 #434141
Bernard Cache - Earth Moves: the Furnishing of Territories
_db July 15, 2020 at 03:47 #434570
Just finished Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck. Never read it back in secondary education. I liked it a lot.
Pantagruel July 15, 2020 at 12:22 #434652
Quoting darthbarracuda
Just finished Of Mice and Men by John Steinbeck. Never read it back in secondary education. I liked it a lot.


Steinbeck is brilliant. :up:
Streetlight July 17, 2020 at 11:39 #435224
Achille Mbembe - On the Postcolony
Achille Mbembe - Critique of Black Reason
Achille Mbembe - Necropolitics
180 Proof July 17, 2020 at 15:04 #435274
Azimuth July 18, 2020 at 19:44 #435635
Boiler room essentials - High pressure boilers
Lucas Relvas July 20, 2020 at 07:14 #435991
The Cambridge Companion to the Stoics

and Batman
Maw August 06, 2020 at 22:57 #440580
Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson
The Fall of the House of Labor: The Workplace, the State, and American Labor Activism, 1865–1925 by David Montgomery
Trying to finish Phenomenology of Spirit by Hegel
praxis August 06, 2020 at 23:56 #440597
The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus

Sunset Park by Paul Auster
praxis August 07, 2020 at 18:18 #440834
Mr. Vertigo by Paul Auster

A Handbook for New Stoics by Massimo Pigliucci
Noble Dust August 07, 2020 at 18:31 #440838
The Upanishads
batsushi7 August 08, 2020 at 11:30 #441068
Idk i been reading James King - Holy Bible, for 13years.
Streetlight August 11, 2020 at 13:52 #442003
Girogio Agamben - What Is Philosophy (Reread)
Michael James Bennett - Deleuze and Ancient Greek Physics: The Image of Nature
Jean Piaget - Structuralism
Jamal August 14, 2020 at 09:11 #442946
Again no philosophy, and again quite Russia-centric.

Recent highlights:

Oliver Twist, Charles Dickens

The characters are grotesques or ciphers: rather than developing, they're only revealed, more or less gradually, and we know that how they respond to circumstances is the only way they ever could. The plot relies on several incredible coincidences. The satirical irony is laid on far too thick, even though we can share his anger and righteousness. Despite his progressive treatment of social issues, and despite his ironic targeting of snobbery, he's still a class-bound snob himself. And the repeated contemptuous descriptions of "the Jew" make for uncomfortable reading (I read somewhere that some of Dickens' Jewish friends complained about this during its serialization, and that he removed the phrase "the Jew" after a certain point in the finished book, but at least in my edition it's there up to the end).

But aside from all that, it's great. The intensity and distinctness of the characters (unchanging as they may be), of the most dramatic scenes, and of his scene-setting descriptions is brilliant. And it's great fun.

War and Peace, Lev Tolstoy

I read it straight after the Dickens and had grouped the two books together in my mind as classic mid-nineteenth century novels, but of course, Tolstoy could hardly be more different. War and Peace feels much closer to my world and my life, and it's more real. The characters develop, change their minds, behave unpredictably. The war bits are much more realistic than I expected, intentionally emphasizing the cowardice and the chaos, the comical errors, the blood and guts, the self-serving lies of the officers, and the basic uselessness of orders and tactics. Tolstoy has some persuasive historico-philosophical arguments and manages to weave them into the plot (except for the final epilogue, which is a repetitive and anti-climactic essay).

Also it's great fun to read. It's full of energy and a passionate love of life and the world--not what you get from Tolstoy's contemporary Dostoevsky.

All Hell Let Loose, Max Hastings

To correct my ignorance of the Second World War--I didn't have a good idea of what happened and when--and especially to see how the Soviet Union fitted in to everything else that was happening, I wanted a one-volume overview, and this turned out to be a pretty good choice. Knowing that Hastings is politically a moderate conservative, hovering around the centre-right, I was surprised at how devastatingly critical he is of the British war effort, not only from a strategic-military point of view but also morally. He shows great sensitivity to the experiences of ordinary soldiers and civilians in all the countries involved, and doesn't hold back when smashing apart the myths of heroism and sacrifice that have been part of the Allied story ever since 1945 (not that he claims heroism and sacrifice were non-existent). One of the unique features of the book is that almost every paragraph contains quotes from archived letters written by people at all levels of society and the military.

Next:

Anna Karenina, Lev Tolstoy. I know some people say this is the best novel ever, but I can't help but expect it to be a let-down after W&P.

A Hero of Our Time, Mikhail Lermontov. I confess I got this partly because I discovered that his ancestors were the Learmonths from Scotland. Maybe I'm homesick or something.

The Unconsoled, Kazuo Ishiguro. I read this when it was first published, when I was in my early twenties. It creeped me out, I didn't get it, but I was fascinated. Now that I'm older and it feels like time is running out, it'll make more sense.

Iron Curtain: The Crushing of Eastern Europe 1944-56, Anne Applebaum. For me this is going to be a kind of sequel to the WW2 book.

Red Famine: Stalin's War on Ukraine, Anne Applebaum. I mentioned to a Russian friend that I was going to read this book and she impatiently said "It wasn't just the Ukrainians who suffered under Stalin! It was us too!" :roll:

War and Peace again, because it was so good.
Pantagruel August 14, 2020 at 09:57 #442950
Quoting StreetlightX
Jean Piaget - Structuralism


Interested to hear what you think of this.
Streetlight August 14, 2020 at 13:29 #442983
Reply to Pantagruel It's a very good introduction to structuralism. Well written, broad (covers lots of topics from math to biology to linguistics), and not too long (just under 150 pages). It's a little dated maybe, but reading Piaget, you get it from the horses' mouth, as it were. It happens to be really good in order to get a sense of the limits of structuralism as well, even while Piaget is a champion for it.
Pantagruel August 14, 2020 at 13:58 #442984
Reply to StreetlightX
Sounds perfect. Parsons has made a few references to Piaget and I've been looking for something. On the list. Thank you! :grin:
fdrake August 14, 2020 at 21:47 #443077
Last few books and essays and stuff:

Mindfuck - Christopher Wylie
Invisible Women - Caroline Criado Perez
Fucking Trans Women - Mira Bellweather
Capital Vol. 1 - Marx (reread (more mathematicising the value theory))
1984 - George Orwell
Uruk Machines - samzdat
Communisation and the Value Form Theory - End Notes (reread, accompanying Marx stuff)

Ongoing maths/stats stuff:

Reading these together with accompanying papers, the study will take a while.

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Causality - Judea Pearl
The Algebra of Open and Interconnected Systems - Brendan Fong
Category Theory for Scientists (using for reference, previously read) - David Spivak
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Ongoing philosophy:

Settlers: The Mythology of the White Proletariat from Mayflower to Modern - J. Sakai

Pantagruel August 18, 2020 at 09:25 #444144
Quoting fdrake
Capital Vol. 1 - Marx (reread (more mathematicising the value theory))


I'm nearly done all 3 volumes - I'd love to see a full blown global economics simulator based on Marx's principles.

Starting Structure of Social Action Volume II: Weber, by Parsons
fdrake August 18, 2020 at 11:06 #444159
Quoting Pantagruel
I'm nearly done all 3 volumes - I'd love to see a full blown global economics simulator based on Marx's principles.


I don't think that's possible without filling in/inventing lots of extra-textual details. Some of his arguments are relatively easy to put into a theorem-proof form though. The latter's what I'm attempting.
Pantagruel August 18, 2020 at 11:54 #444165
Quoting fdrake
I don't think that's possible without filling in/inventing lots of extra-textual details. Some of his arguments are relatively easy to put into a theorem-proof form though. The latter's what I'm attempting.


Yes, it would have to be an extrapolation. What I'd really like to do is attempt to integrate a lot more social dimensions, flesh out his class-conflict in light of the intervening 150 years of history. It's a major undertaking for sure.

Are you a mathematician?
fdrake August 18, 2020 at 12:11 #444169
Quoting Pantagruel
What I'd really like to do is attempt to integrate a lot more social dimensions, flesh out his class-conflict in light of the intervening 150 years of history.


I think that's what a lot of Marxist literature does, no? Filling in the gaps and using the same categories to analyse other issues. Did you have a particular thing in mind?

Quoting Pantagruel
Are you a mathematician?


Yes, statistician. (Mathematicians don't like it if you call statistics mathematics)
Pantagruel August 18, 2020 at 12:27 #444171
Quoting fdrake
I think that's what a lot of Marxist literature does, no? Filling in the gaps and using the same categories to analyse other issues. Did you have a particular thing in mind?


lol! Yes, of course.

I've been wanting to leverage neural net modelling capabilities since I started reading cybernetics in the 90s. Now it has become pretty plug and play. NetLogo is the new standard, multi-agent based modelling and it's free. It's just about conceptualizing the model. Capitalism is rife with contradictions, and these seem like logical focal points to me.
_db August 23, 2020 at 02:18 #445757
The World in Your Head: A Gestalt View of the Mechanism of Conscious Experience by Steven Lehar
_db August 23, 2020 at 05:05 #445787
Reply to fdrake That comic reminds me of the covers of the classic Compilers: Principles, Techniques and Tools, aka the "Dragon Book", back when compiler design was still a lively, active field, which accurately described how designing a compiler could feel like:

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Unfortunately, the newest version went off in a totally different direction for whatever reason:

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There's also another classic "Dinosaur Book" for operating systems that has fortunately held on to its traditional cover art, most of the time. Fun stuff.
Saphsin August 23, 2020 at 08:04 #445824
"Meanings as Species" by Mark Richard, some provoking bits:

"...Of course languages, lexicons, and individual words—like species—evolve. As one population ‘reproduces’ its language in the next, new words arise, old words have their meanings changed, phonology shifts, grammatical rules may be modified, and so on. As is the case with species, some of this evolution will be quite gradual: successive generations are able to fluently communicate with one another, just as successive generations in a population lineage are (counterfactually and in principle) able to interbreed, have fertile progeny, share a system for recognizing mates, etc. As is the case with species, even when abutting generations enjoy the sort of cohesion that would drive the observer to classify them as speakers of a single language, the soritical ways of linguistic change, given enough time, will lead to a diachronic lack of cohesion so great that no one will say that ancestor and descendent populations speak the same language, even though the languages they use are related by descent."

"...Whether we stick with this sort of terminology or not, we should agree that Quine is correct to think that the notion of analyticity is of little to no use in the study of language. But it certainly doesn’t follow from this that the notion of meaning can’t bear any explanatory load, any more than it follows from the fact—biological species do not have essences; none of the small changes that might lead, when summed over time, to speciation are themselves intrinsically changes that separate one species from another— that the notion of species cannot bear any explanatory weight. The notions of word meaning, concept, and (public) language are no worse off because of Quine’s and allied arguments and observations than is the notion of species because of Darwinian arguments and observations that speciation is a historical process and that it is folly to think that species have anything like essences."

"...Our talk about meaning, like our talk about species, tracks something that is event- like, more process than product. Our talk about meaning, like our talk about species, tends to be cast in terms that are more appropriate to something that is not event-like: thus the attraction of the views that species have some sort of essence, and that a word’s meaning can be identified once and for all with a definition or a Fregean sense or something of the sort. Because of the apparent lack of fit between what our talk about meanings and species tracks and the conceptual box that talk creates, we might at the end of the day decide that rather radical conceptual engineering is called for: we might even recommend dropping talk about species or meanings in favor of talk about populations related by descent or lineages of lexicons linked by various relations of communication. To do so in the biological case is not to suggest that species talk does not track a real phenomenon, or that the claims and generalizations biologists make in speaking about species are empty or unverifiable or false. Ditto, for the linguistic case."
Maw August 29, 2020 at 17:16 #447461
[s]Globalists: The End of Empire and the Birth of Neoliberalism by Quinn Slobodian[/s] (going to read this later)
Middlemarch by George Eliot
Critique of the Gotha Programme by Karl Marx

Finished:
Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844 by Karl Marx (reread)
The German Ideology by Karl Mark (just the section on Feuerbach and Historical Materialism)
Streetlight August 31, 2020 at 05:14 #447879
Quoting Saphsin
"Meanings as Species" by Mark Richard


This looks great! How are you finding it?

CR:

Fred Moten and Stefano Herney - The Undercommons: Fugitive Planning and Black Study
Frank B. Wilderson III - Afropessimism
Frank B. Wilderson III (ed.) - Afro-Pessimism: An Introduction
Pantagruel August 31, 2020 at 12:00 #447966
Democracy and Education by John Dewey. I'm shifting into a politics, democracy and legal theory mode for the next few books.

edit: a few tidbits from the first couple of chapters...

"Manners are but minor morals."

"The things we take for granted without inquiry or reflection are just the things which determine our conscious thinking."

"A modern society is many societies more or less loosely connected."

"As a society becomes more enlightened, it realizes that it is responsible not to transmit and conserve the whole of its existing achievements, but only such as make for a better future society."
Pantagruel September 02, 2020 at 10:06 #448622
The French Revolution, Thomas Carlyle
Kevin September 02, 2020 at 19:29 #448720
Starting Derrida, [I]Voice and Phenomenon[/I] and noticed an old reading group thread for the same here so will check that out. Also noticed there is a pdf version of an earlier translation as [I]Speech and Phenomena[/I] that pops up upon a Google search.

Side note, sheer curiosity:
Coming across the old reading group, I wondered - why was TGW banned?
Also noticed Landru Guide Us and Prairie Dog Handler are gone - did they just leave?
They seemed a frequent presence on the old forum.

(More of a lounge question I suppose but prompted by coming across the thread and didn't seem worth starting a new one over.)
Streetlight September 04, 2020 at 11:08 #449337
Pierre Clastres - Archaeology of Violence
Eduardo Viveiros de Castro - Cannibal Metaphysics: For a Post-Structural Anthropology
David Graeber - Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology
David Graeber - Revolutions in Reverse: Essays on Politics, Violence, Art, and Imagination

Reply to Pantagruel :up:
180 Proof September 10, 2020 at 07:35 #451016
september readings:

Adorno and Existence, Peter Gordon
The Struggle for Recognition, Axel Honneth
Afropessimism, Frank Wilderson III

*

"Fear is the mind-killer." :mask:

1st trailer for DUNE (they might have gotten it right this time):

https://youtu.be/n9xhJrPXop4
Benkei September 10, 2020 at 16:36 #451116
Reply to 180 Proof How do you do that? I can't reread anything without going totally bored. I only reread legal texts to verify the exact argument or rule.
Maw September 10, 2020 at 18:59 #451137
Quoting 180 Proof
(they might have gotten it right this time)


I will not stand idly by as David Lynch and Sting are besmirched
180 Proof September 11, 2020 at 01:12 #451234
Reply to Maw :lol:
Streetlight September 11, 2020 at 05:14 #451253
Quoting 180 Proof
Afropessimism, Frank Wilderson III


Let me know how you find this. As a book I thought it was an incredible read. I even think he's exactly right to point out that there is a certain class of subject ('slave') which escapes the major emancipatory frameworks of either Marxism or post-colonialism (the slave neither fights for a different relation to the means of production, nor for a claim to land); but I don't understand why this class of subject *must* be black. Like the whole book made me think very hard about the way in which racial issues - black racial issues in particular - cannot simply be assimilated or amalgamated with other claims for emancipation (there is a specificity to racial struggle that is not simply class or land based), but I still don't see why this warrants his afropessimism. Like, what is it about the slave that warrants the slave being 'inherently' black? I feel like there's a step missing in his argument. Still, I really enjoyed it.
180 Proof September 11, 2020 at 05:31 #451256
Reply to StreetlightX I've been leery of reading this book for the issues you raise which I'd gleaned from reviews, etc. Orlando Patterson's work on 'historical slavery' - among and between ethnicities, mostly non-blacks (or non-Africans) - has been a profound resource of mine for almost thirty years. Wilderson's examination, I suspect, is more philosophical than historical. I'll let you know how it affects me when I'm done (probably via PM).
Streetlight September 11, 2020 at 05:42 #451257
Saphsin September 13, 2020 at 01:17 #451683
Reply to StreetlightX There are sections of technical analytic philosophy that I have to review over, but the parts I was able to grasp are very interesting.
praxis September 14, 2020 at 21:14 #452165
Reply to Benkei

I started rereading Dune and it's very enjoyable. I read it as a teen and again sometime around 15 years ago. The remake looks promising, btw.

I've read all the Dune novels by Brian Herbert and Kevin J. Anderson, incidental, and though entertaining they don't compare to Frank.
Maw September 15, 2020 at 00:14 #452227
To be honest I thought Dune wasn't very good.
180 Proof September 15, 2020 at 02:07 #452259
Reply to Maw Grading on a curve, that's generous. (re: movie, not novel)
Maw September 15, 2020 at 04:34 #452311
Reply to 180 Proof Novel actually :naughty:
180 Proof September 15, 2020 at 05:27 #452319
Reply to Maw :gasp:
Streetlight September 16, 2020 at 13:03 #452809
Bruno Latour - We Have Never Been Modern (Finally getting around to this. It's probably been on my shelf for like a decade now, it's pages yellowed from when I first bought it, but better late than never).
+
Samantha Bankston - Deleuze and Becoming
German Eduardo Primera - The Political Ontology of Giorgio Agamben: Signatures of Life and Power
praxis September 16, 2020 at 16:47 #452872
Quoting Maw
Novel actually


For sci-fi? It definitely stands out in that genre.
Maw September 17, 2020 at 04:42 #453080
I found the characters are mostly one dimensional and the writing sub-par, but it's nevertheless interesting in it's novelty, imagination, and by consequence, influence in the genre.
_db September 17, 2020 at 05:27 #453099
I loved Dune.

In the Presence of Schopenhauer, Michel Houellebecq, recently published in English.
180 Proof September 17, 2020 at 09:57 #453144
Reply to darthbarracuda Quite interested in both philosopher and novelist. Your thoughts on the book will be appreciated.
Gus Lamarch September 17, 2020 at 20:54 #453231
Philosophy of Redemption (1876) - Philipp Mainlander
_db September 17, 2020 at 23:55 #453286
Reply to 180 Proof I'll prolly make a post on the book once I finish it.
180 Proof September 19, 2020 at 02:50 #453573
more september readings:

Time of the Magicians, Wolfram Eilenberger
I Am Dynamite! A Life of Nietzsche, Sue Prideaux
Pantagruel September 19, 2020 at 11:52 #453676
The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life by Erving Goffman
Maw September 21, 2020 at 17:12 #454510
The Age of Extremes: The Short Twentieth Century, 1914–1991 by Eric Hobsbawm
Pantagruel September 28, 2020 at 11:40 #456989
The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Laurence Sterne
Olivier5 September 28, 2020 at 17:17 #457092
Quoting Pantagruel
The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Laurence Sterne


Could not finish it. :(
Pantagruel September 28, 2020 at 19:23 #457119
Quoting Olivier5
The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy, Laurence Sterne
— Pantagruel

Could not finish it. :(


Not your cup of tea?
Olivier5 September 28, 2020 at 19:49 #457122
A bit of a mouthful, language wise. But these things are aquired tastes, maybe I should have kept up with the style a little more to get used to it.
praxis September 28, 2020 at 19:53 #457123
Rise of the Warrior Cop: The Militarization of America's Police Forces, by Radley Balko
Pantagruel October 05, 2020 at 11:16 #458987
Reply to Olivier5
Yes, it takes some getting used to.

Between Facts and Norms: Contributions to a Discourse Theory of Law and Democracy by Jurgen Habermas
Streetlight October 06, 2020 at 03:14 #459176
K?jin Karatani - Isonomia and the Origins of Philosophy
David Lapoujade - Aberrant Movements: The Philosophy of Gilles Deleuze
Giorgio Agamben - Creation and Anarchy
180 Proof October 09, 2020 at 03:58 #459894
october readings:

There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire, Michael Gaddis

Reply to Ciceronianus the White :up:

The Awkward Black Man, Walter Mosley

still reading:

God, Existence, and Fictional Objects: The Case for Meinongian Theism, John-Mark L. Miravalle
• Capital and Ideology, Thomas Piketty

re-reading:

Beatlebone, Kevin Barry
In Tune, Mark Lewison
(in honor of what would have been John Lennon's 80th birthday today)
Pantagruel October 09, 2020 at 18:16 #460042
Quoting 180 Proof
In Tune, Mark Lewison


:up:
Streetlight October 13, 2020 at 16:29 #461097
Reza Negarestani - Intelligence and Spirit

Preparing to have my mind blown to pieces.
Saphsin October 14, 2020 at 09:51 #461252
Roald Hoffmann on the Philosophy, Art, and Science of Chemistry - Edited by Jeffrey Kovac, Michael Weisberg

I've put Chemistry completely on the back burner with respect to philosophy of science so I'm trying to mitigate my ignorance of this.
Kevin October 18, 2020 at 08:46 #462192
Shot in the dark question here: anyone read/handled the 800 page Routledge paperback edition of Popper's [I]Open Society[/I]? If so, at 800 pages for a paperback, would you recommend it or recommend looking for older split 2-volume editions?
Olivier5 October 18, 2020 at 10:59 #462205
Reply to Kevin I have read the Open Society in two volumes. As it was published I think?

You can always cut the 800 pages volume in two halves, if that helps.
Maw October 22, 2020 at 03:50 #463760
The Anatomy of Fascism by Robert Paxton
Male Fantasies V1: Women, Floods, Bodies, History by Klaus Theweleit
Streetlight October 23, 2020 at 05:15 #464030
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Belated birthday present to myself just arrived :grin:
_db October 23, 2020 at 05:27 #464033
Quoting Maw
The Anatomy of Fascism by Robert Paxton


No shit! I just started re-reading this.
180 Proof October 23, 2020 at 19:42 #464239
The Fascism This Time, Theo Horesh
The Questioning Bookworm October 28, 2020 at 15:18 #465860
The Brothers Karamazov by Fyodor Dostoevsky
fdrake October 28, 2020 at 15:41 #465868
Reply to 180 Proof

How's this one going?
Pantagruel October 29, 2020 at 11:11 #466168
H.G. Wells, Selected Short Stories.

Still wading through Habermas....
_db October 30, 2020 at 21:49 #466653
Reply to Maw Male Fantasies v1 piqued my interest. Picked up a copy, fascinating read.
Streetlight October 31, 2020 at 01:27 #466714
Catherine Malabou - Morphing Intelligence: From IQ Measurement to Artificial Brains
Alex Anievas and Kerem Ni?anc?o?lu - How The West Came to Rule: The Geopolitical Origins of Capitalism
_db October 31, 2020 at 02:23 #466733
Industrial Society and its Future, Ted Kaczynsky
Albero November 01, 2020 at 01:21 #467027
Stephen King's "The Drawing of the Three"
Pantagruel November 05, 2020 at 21:00 #468885
Dickens' Mystery of Edwin Drood

I have to do 5 more books by the end of the year to meet my Goodreads goal, so I'm throwing in some shorter works (although I like nothing better than to be immersed in a Dickensian epic).
180 Proof November 07, 2020 at 14:32 #469491
november reading

Isonomia and The Origins of Philosophy, K?jin Karatani Reply to StreetlightX :up:

John Lennon 1980: The Last Days in the Life, Kenneth Womack

re-reading

Crises of the Republic, Hannah Arendt
• On Tyranny, Timothy Snyder

still reading

The Fascism This Time, Theo Horesh

etcetera ...
Pantagruel November 11, 2020 at 11:41 #470744
More Habermas, The Inclusion of the Other: Studies in Political Theory

Given the tenor of politics, especially in the states, it is interesting to note the emphasis he places on the idea of civility in rationally founded political and democratic will-formation.....Of course it applies to all rational deliberation really.
Maw November 12, 2020 at 01:01 #470938
Globalists: The End of Empire and the Birth of Neoliberalism by Quinn Slobodian
Moliere November 12, 2020 at 08:26 #470989
Through twitter i got a new pluhar translation of kant's "critique of judgment"

my old copy broke at the A side of "On the Mathematically sublime" and was falling apart.

Gonna prolly start rereading that when i get it.

Kinda makes me wonder if people who just like Kant like to give his books away?
Pantagruel November 12, 2020 at 10:49 #471012
Quoting Moliere
Kinda makes me wonder if people who just like Kant like to give his books away?


Maybe when their heads start hurting?
Wayfarer November 16, 2020 at 07:36 #472035
I just downloaded a 30 hour (!) reading of the Immanuel Kant collection for nothing, by virtue of having signed up for Amazon Audiobook and cashing in my free intro offer. CPR, Metaphysics of Morals, and Critique of Practical Reason (which I’d already started as a separate volume.) Reading plan is to listen while working out. If I can get a compatible waterproof MP3 player, I can also listen while swimming laps. Improve mind and body simultaneously.
Streetlight November 17, 2020 at 03:22 #472264
Quoting 180 Proof
Isonomia and The Origins of Philosophy, K?jin Karatan


How are you finding it? It said that it was originally written as the last part of another work, and I felt that it really reads like it. Like a side project, almost. I liked it, but it did feel a little 'light'.

CR -

Perry Anderson - Passages from Antiquity to Feudalism
Perry Anderson - Considerations on Western Marxism
Paulo Freire - Pedagogy of the Oppressed
_db November 18, 2020 at 02:26 #472474
Eric Hoffer, The True Believer:
The burning conviction that we have a holy duty towards other is often a way of attaching our drowning selves to a passing raft. What looks like giving a hand is holding on for dear life. Take away our holy duties and you leave our lives puny and meaningless. There is no doubt that in exchanging a self-centered for a selfless life we gain enormously in self-esteem. The vanity of the selfless, even those who practice utmost humility, is boundless.


Pantagruel November 18, 2020 at 16:06 #472645
Ernst Cassirer, Language and Myth

"In this study Cassirer analyzes the non-rational thought processes that go to make up culture. He demonstrates that beneath both language & myth there lies an unconscious "grammar" of experience, whose categories & canons aren't those of logical thought. He shows that this prelogical "logic" is not merely an undeveloped state of rationality, but something basically different, & that this archaic mode of thought still has enormous Power over even our most rigorous thought, in language, poetry & myth. The author analyzes such seemingly diverse (yet related) phenomena as the metaphysics of the Bhagavat Gita, the Melanesian concept of Mana, the Naturphilosophie of Schelling, modern poetry, Ancient Egyptian religion & symbolic logic. He covers a vast range of material that is all too often neglected in studies of human thought."
Sapien November 23, 2020 at 13:09 #473790
Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl.
BitconnectCarlos November 23, 2020 at 13:49 #473804
Reply to Sapien

^That's a good one.
Sapien November 23, 2020 at 14:04 #473808
Reply to BitconnectCarlos

Yeah. I thought so, too.
frank November 23, 2020 at 14:44 #473818
Reply to Sapien I come back to his wisdom over and over.
Sapien November 23, 2020 at 15:30 #473828
Reply to frank Sounds important. I'll read it more carefully then. 90 pages in.
Pantagruel November 24, 2020 at 12:35 #474134
Ernst Cassirer, An Essay on Man: An Introduction to a Philosophy of Human Culture
Count Timothy von Icarus November 25, 2020 at 02:26 #474324
Neuropath, a short thriller by R. Scott Bakker. It's about a neurologist serial killer and incorporates a lot of interesting neuroscience findings into a story about free will and meaning. Fast paced, but on a dense topic, a rare combo.

Writing is decent, nothing great. A shame because his The Darkness That Comes Before has really good writing. I like this though because it's so accessible; good book to get people thinking who normally wouldn't read anything on mind-body philosophy.
180 Proof November 25, 2020 at 13:01 #474477
Pantagruel November 26, 2020 at 20:35 #474779
Quoting Wayfarer
I just downloaded a 30 hour (!) reading of the Immanuel Kant collection for nothing, by virtue of having signed up for Amazon Audiobook and cashing in my free intro offer. CPR, Metaphysics of Morals, and Critique of Practical Reason (which I’d already started as a separate volume.) Reading plan is to listen while working out. If I can get a compatible waterproof MP3 player, I can also listen while swimming laps. Improve mind and body simultaneously.


:up:
How is the audio-Kant going? I got the Critique of Pure Reason for free too and listened to the intros last night. I found it pretty decent.
Pantagruel November 26, 2020 at 20:36 #474780
Saussure, Course in General Linguistics
Wayfarer November 26, 2020 at 21:19 #474798
Quoting Pantagruel
How is the audio-Kant going?


the reading of Practical Reason is done in a very strong American accent, which is a little off-putting, although the diction is clear enough. It's tough going, requires a lot of concentration to take it in.
Pantagruel November 26, 2020 at 21:28 #474805
Quoting Wayfarer
the reading of Practical Reason is done in a very strong American accent, which is a little off-putting,


I bet.

Mine is a Kindle, so it is read by a computer-generated voice (Alexa). Oddly enough, I actually prefer this to Audible's human narrators!
Wayfarer November 26, 2020 at 21:51 #474818
Good idea. I’ll try that. I feel an obligation to read more of the Kant opus but it’s very hard work and I can never really tell if it’s time well spent. (I guess that’s like one of the antinomies :-) )
Streetlight November 27, 2020 at 16:56 #475033
Perry Anderson - Lineages of the Absolutist State
Perry Anderson - In The Tracks of Historical Materialism

Moar histore.
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Daemon November 27, 2020 at 20:31 #475073
William Dalrymple The Anarchy

Historian writes about the British East India Company, which acted like a State, conquering and (mis)governing parts of India. Wonderful characterisations, fascinating insights into bizarre societies (both western and oriental), a great book but I've had to stop reading it as I can't bear the descriptions of torture and mutilation.
_db November 27, 2020 at 22:55 #475137
Finished The True Believer by Eric Hoffer. Very good, would recommend.
Maw November 30, 2020 at 23:20 #475747
How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney
_db December 01, 2020 at 00:43 #475769
Seeing Like a State, James C. Scott
The Technological Society, Jacques Ellul
_db December 01, 2020 at 20:45 #476048
Also, Anti-Tech Revolution: Why and How, Ted Kaczynski.
Maw December 07, 2020 at 01:28 #477588
What books should I buy for the Verso Books holiday sale?
_db December 07, 2020 at 02:23 #477604
Technological Slavery, Ted Kaczynski

turns out crazy old uncle ted has some interesting ideas
Streetlight December 07, 2020 at 02:39 #477607
Reply to Maw

Anything Wolfgang Streeck or Mike Davis or Robert Brenner
Andreas Malm's Fossil Capital
Gindin and Panitch's The Making of Global Capitalism
Ellen Wood's The Origin of Capitalism

So much!
Metaphysician Undercover December 08, 2020 at 01:40 #477935
Reply to darthbarracuda
A very smart, but twisted man. I think he should have stuck with the math.

[quote=Wikipedia]In 1967, Kaczynski's dissertation Boundary Functions[42] won the Sumner B. Myers Prize for Michigan's best mathematics dissertation of the year.[11] Allen Shields, his doctoral advisor, called it "the best I have ever directed",[/quote]
_db December 08, 2020 at 02:00 #477941
Reply to Metaphysician Undercover It's complicated. K definitely has a twisted streak (e.g. his journal entries expressing glee when he learned his bombs had killed people). Yet his ideas are remarkable, and the intensity of his presentation is quite honestly breathtaking at times. It is a shame that he did his bombings; while he claims to not feel remorse and believes it to have been necessary, I think the world could have benefited more from his writings if he were not in prison. And despite his crimes, for a man so devoted to human autonomy, it is somewhat tragic (or ironic) that he is behind bars.
_db December 08, 2020 at 02:07 #477945
Reply to Metaphysician Undercover

Kaczynski, Technological Slavery:The mountains of Western Montana offered me nearly everything I needed or wanted. If those mountains could have remained just as they were when I first moved to Montana in 1971, I would have been satisfied. The rest of the world could have had a herd mentality, or an individualistic mentality or whatever, and it would have been all the same to me. But, of course, under modern conditions there was no way the mountains could have remained isolated from the rest of the world. Civilization moved in and squeezed me, so...


Metaphysician Undercover December 08, 2020 at 02:20 #477950
Reply to darthbarracuda
I don't know man, civilization moving in and squeezing me, hardly seems like a good reason for bombing it.
_db December 08, 2020 at 02:34 #477955
Reply to Metaphysician Undercover Like I said, it's complicated, probably one of the toughest issues that one thinks about when reading his works. I think violence can be justified, sometimes it's the only option. But retaliating by striking out against random people who are related, even just barely, to modern industrial technology, and who otherwise are innocent, is cruel and frighteningly ruthless. K claims it was meant to draw attention to his ideas, but who knows how sincere he is when he says that. And maybe all it ended up doing was make people scared, and cling even more tightly to technology and the state.
Metaphysician Undercover December 08, 2020 at 03:36 #477966
Quoting darthbarracuda
K claims it was meant to draw attention to his ideas, but who knows how sincere he is when he says that.


The writings are anti-societal. The acts were anti-societal. We can ask, which came first, the writings or the acts, to see if the acts were meant to bring attention to the writings, or if the writings are an attempt to justify the acts. Before the acts, wasn't the man a mathematical genius who got disillusioned with society? It's possible that he later turned that incredible mind of his toward justifying some terrible acts. Fifteen years of violence before his manifesto was published doesn't look good for the idea that the violence was meant to bring attention to his ideas.
_db December 08, 2020 at 04:11 #477981
Reply to Metaphysician Undercover Yeah, I also doubt his intentions were purely motivated by ideological beliefs about the dangers of technology. Like you said, fifteen years is a long time to go without any explanation as to why the attacks are happening.

Eric Hoffer (whom Kaczynski occasionally references) said that people turn into fanatics in order to justify atrocities that they have committed. The devotion of a fanatic is often an attempt to silence feelings of guilt. Deeper and deeper they go. Hoffer thinks there are three types of people in a social revolution: men of letters, fanatics and men of practical action (appearing in that order temporally). I think Kaczynski might be considered to be both a man of letters and a fanatic.

Regardless, I don't see much use in focusing on his actions. It's his ideas that really matter. Use what you can, and compost the rest.
Metaphysician Undercover December 08, 2020 at 11:26 #478087
Quoting darthbarracuda
Yeah, I also doubt his intentions were purely motivated by ideological beliefs about the dangers of technology. Like you said, fifteen years is a long time to go without any explanation as to why the attacks are happening.


His work place was a University. His targets were Universities. So he displays elements of classic 'going postal'. And as a letter bomber he gives the expression a whole new dimension.

Quoting darthbarracuda
Regardless, I don't see much use in focusing on his actions. It's his ideas that really matter.


The question then, do his ideas really have merit, or is it just a case of being an interesting read because it's written by a very intelligent and capable human being, who experienced an extremely messed up life.
_db December 08, 2020 at 23:07 #478271
Reply to Metaphysician Undercover I'm planning on making a thread on his ideas to help determine just that.
180 Proof December 09, 2020 at 01:20 #478313
december reading:

• Anatomy of Fascism, Robert Paxton
The Kidnapping Club: Wall Street, Slavery and Resistance on the Eve of the Civil War, Jonathan Daniel Wells
Caste: The Origin of Our Discontents, Isabel Wilkerson

re-reading:

Stories Of Your Life And Other Stories, Ted Chiang

still reading

There Is No Crime for Those Who Have Christ: Religious Violence in the Christian Roman Empire, Michael Gaddis
• God, Existence, and Fictional Objects: The Case for Meinongian Theism, John-Mark L. Miravalle
• Capital and Ideology, Thomas Piketty
_db December 10, 2020 at 02:39 #478664
Technics and Civilization, Lewis Mumford
Pantagruel December 11, 2020 at 11:54 #478957
Confessions of an English Opium Eater by Thomas de Quincey
Pantagruel December 15, 2020 at 19:45 #480283
History of the English-Speaking Peoples, Vol 3: The Age of Revolution by Winston Churchill
_db December 18, 2020 at 21:32 #481156
Against the Grain: A Deep History of the Earliest States, James C. Scott.

Excited for this one :party:
Streetlight December 18, 2020 at 23:20 #481188
Reply to darthbarracuda :up: Plan to read this soon too!

Incidentally, am currently reading Joseph Strayer's On the Medieval Origins of the Modern State.
frank December 19, 2020 at 00:32 #481200
Reply to StreetlightX Cook's Medieval Worldview is good. He talks about the re-emergence of cities and why Roman law facilitated it.
Streetlight December 19, 2020 at 00:47 #481207
Reply to frank Interesting! I'm doing alot of reading around states and state trans/formation recently, but the intersection between cities and law sounds awesome too. Will put it on the list at least.
frank December 19, 2020 at 16:16 #481389
_db December 21, 2020 at 18:14 #481783
Reply to StreetlightX Been a great book so far, I am nearly finished with it after a relaxing weekend of reading. Definitely a re-read.
Maw December 22, 2020 at 23:54 #482188
Quoting StreetlightX
Anything Wolfgang Streeck or Mike Davis or Robert Brenner
Andreas Malm's Fossil Capital
Gindin and Panitch's The Making of Global Capitalism
Ellen Wood's The Origin of Capitalism

So much!


I got a few books by Ellen Wood (already own/have read Origin of Capitalism, although I might re-read it next year). Also got Robert Brenner's tome, Merchants and Revolution, Domenico Losurdo's Liberalism: A Counter History, and a few other books.

Looks like I have to buy my fourth bookshelf!
Streetlight December 23, 2020 at 02:44 #482217
Reply to Maw I got books spilling out from under my bed atm haha. If it helps, I bought Robin Blackburn's two books on Atlantic slavery as part of the sale. Saved me a good AU$60. If you liked Wood, I can't recommend enough Anievas and Nisancioglu's How the West Came to Rule - it's a wonderful corrective to Wood, and covers a heap of non-European history that's well worth reading (not Verso tho). Probably contains some of the best theorization of what capitalism is that I know. Speaking of Wood, currently reading:

Ellen Meiksins Wood - Peasant-Citizen and Slave: The Foundations of Athenian Democracy
Quentin Skinner - Liberty Before Liberalism
Raymond Geuss - The Idea of a Critical Theory: Habermas and the Frankfurt School
_db December 23, 2020 at 05:22 #482232
Re-reading Every Cradle Is a Grave, Sarah Perry.
Maw December 26, 2020 at 23:24 #482992
Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent by Eduardo Galeano and trying to finish up Grundrisse by Marx

Probably the last book I'll start this year so I'll do my annual reading list

  • The Age of Revolution 1789 - 1848 by Eric Hobsbawm
  • Health Justice Now: Single Payer and What Comes Next by Timothy Faust
  • The Triumph of Injustice: How the Rich Dodge Taxes and How to Make Them Pay by Emmanuel Saez and Gabriel Zucman
  • War and War by Laszlo Krasznahorkai
  • The Expanding Blaze: How the American Revolution Ignited the World, 1775-1848 by Jonathan Israel
  • The Plague by Albert Camus (reread)
  • Prison Notebooks (selections) by Gramsci
  • The Age of Capital: 1848–1875 by Eric Hobsbawm
  • Working-Class Formation: Nineteenth-Century Patterns in Western Europe and the United States edited by Ira Katznelson and Aristide R. Zolberg
  • The Red and the Black by Stendhal
  • Karl Marx: A Nineteenth-Century Life by Jonathan Sperber
  • The Age of Empire: 1875–1914 by Eric Hobsbawm
  • Treasure Island by Robert Louis Stevenson
  • The Fall of the House of Labor: The Workplace, the State, and American Labor Activism, 1865–1925 by David Montgomery
  • Phenomenology of Spirit (haven't finished) by Hegel
  • Critique of the Gotha Programme by Karl Marx
  • Economic and Philosophic Manuscripts of 1844 by Karl Marx (reread)
  • The German Ideology by Karl Mark (just the section on Feuerbach and Historical Materialism)
  • The Age of Extremes: The Short Twentieth Century, 1914–1991 by Eric Hobsbawm
  • The Anatomy of Fascism by Robert Paxton
  • Male Fantasies V1: Women, Floods, Bodies, History by Klaus Theweleit
  • Globalists: The End of Empire and the Birth of Neoliberalism by Quinn Slobodian
  • How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney
  • Open Veins of Latin America: Five Centuries of the Pillage of a Continent by Eduardo Galeano
  • Grundrisse by Marx
Streetlight December 27, 2020 at 04:03 #483036
Reply to Maw :up: On my last books too. This year was really interesting. 56 books. Probably among my most diverse list in terms of authors and subject matter. Slightly more female authored booked this year compared to last, and definitely less dead white men, although there's alot of that too. Much of the reading influenced by current events. Got a ebook reader late in the year which allowed me to read even more than usual - although I'm reserving that for books <150 pages or so. Biggest acheivement was probably getting through both A Thousand Plateaus and Anti-Oedipus by Deleuze and Guattari. Those have been a long-time coming - working my way 'up' to them for a couple of years. ATP really inspired me to do alot of reading outside of traditional philosophy, which I'm very grateful for. 2021 is probably going to start off with alot of historical reading. Anyway, Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year all. Asterisks indicates favourites:

Deleuze and Guattari:

Eugene Holland - Deleuze and Guattari's 'A Thousand Plateaus': A Readers Guide
Eugene Holland - Deleuze and Guattari's 'Anti-Oedipus': Introduction to Schizoanalysis
Brent Adkins - Deleuze and Guattari's A Thousand Plateaus
Ian Buchanan - Deleuze and Guattari's 'Anti-Oedipus': A Reader's Guide
Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari - A Thousand Plateaus (Capitalism and Schizophrenia Vol. 2)*
Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari - Anti-Oedipus (Capitalism and Schizophrenia Vol. 1)
David Lapoujade - Aberrant Movements: The Philosophy of Gilles Deleuze*
Samantha Bankston - Deleuze and Becoming
Joe Hughes - Philosophy After Deleuze
Joe Hughes - Deleuze and the Genesis of Representation*
Ronald Bogue - Deleuze on Literature
Michael James Bennett - Deleuze and Ancient Greek Physics: the Image of Nature

BLM inspired:

Frank B. Wilderson III (ed.) - Afro-Pessimism: An Introduction
Frank B. Wilderson III - Afropessimism
Achille Mbembe - Necropolitics
Achille Mbembe - Critique of Black Reason
Achille Mbembe - On the Postcolony
Fred Moten and Stefano Harney - The Undercommons: Fugitive Planning and Black Study
Frantz Fanon - The Wretched of the Earth
Frantz Fanon - Black Skin, White Masks
Paolo Freire - Pedagogy of the Oppressed
Aime Cesaire - Discourse on Colonialism

History of Capitalism:

Perry Anderson - Passages From Antiquity to Feudalism
Perry Anderson - Lineages of the Absolutist State*
Perry Anderson - Considerations on Western Marxism
Perry Anderson - In the Tracks of Historical Materialism
Alexander Anievas and Kerem Nisancioglu - How the West Came to Rule: The Geopolitical Origins of Capitalism*
Ellen Meiksins Wood - Democracy Against Capitalism: Renewing Historical Materialism*
Ellen Meiksins Wood - The Origins of Capitalism: A Longer View*
Ellen Meiksins Wood - The Pristine Culture of Capitalism: A Historical Essay on Old Regimes and Modern States
Silvia Federici - Caliban and the Witch: Women, the Body, and Primitive Accumulation

Anthropology:

David Graeber - Revolutions in Reverse: Essays on Politics, Violence, Art, and Imagination
David Graeber - Fragments of an Anarchist Anthropology
Pierre Clastres - Archaeology of Violence
Pierre Clastres - Society Against the State: Essays in Political Anthropology
Bruno Latour - We Have Never Been Modern
Eduardo Viveiros de Castro - Cannibal Metaphysics

Political Economy:

Mariana Mazzucato - The Entrepreneurial State: Debunking Public vs. Private Sector Myths
Mariana Mazzucato - The Value of Everything: Making and Taking in the Global Economy
Ann Pettifor - The Production on Money: How to Break the Power of Bankers
Jereome Roos - Why Not Default?: The Political Economy of Sovereign Debt*

Misc.:

Jospeh Strayer - On the Medieval Origins of the Modern State
Raymond Geuss - The Idea of a Critical Theory: Habermas and the Frankfurt School
Quentin Skinner - Liberty Before Liberalism
Reza Negarestani - Intelligence and Spirit*
Catherine Malabou - Morphing Intelligence: From IQ to Brain Measurement
Kojin Karatani - Isonomia and the Origins of Philosophy
Giorgio Agamben - Creation and Anarchy: The Work of Art and the Religion of Capitalism
Giorgio Agamben - What Is Philosophy?* (reread)
German Eduardo Primera - The Political Ontology of Giorgio Agamben: Signatures of Life and Power
Jean Piaget - Structuralism
Bernard Cache - Earth Moves: The Furnishing of Territories
Judith Butler - Frames of War: When is Life Grievable?
Judith Butler - Precarious Life
Judith Butler - Notes Towards a Performative Theory of Assembly
Isabell Lorey - State of Insecurity: Government of the Precarious

Currently Reading:

Ellen Meiksins Wood - Peasant-Citizen and Slave: The Foundations of Athenian Democracy
Albert O. Hirschman - The Passions and the Interests: Political Arguments for Capitalism Before Its Triumph
Maw December 27, 2020 at 05:56 #483046
Quoting StreetlightX
56 books


Fuck you
Maw December 27, 2020 at 06:23 #483050
Reply to StreetlightX

I bought Anti-Oedipus while in college 11 years ago and haven't managed to get past a handful of pages. Need to get through it at some point... Your BLM reading list is quite inspiring as is your History of Capitalism, and to that end I would recommend How Europe Underdeveloped Africa by Walter Rodney and Open Veins of Latin America by Eduardo Galeano

And since we're doing end-of-year lists I also wrote up the top movies I watched this year in another thread, since I assume people watched more movies this year than in other years.
Pantagruel December 27, 2020 at 15:53 #483115
The Interpretation of Cultures by Clifford Geertz
Pantagruel December 28, 2020 at 14:11 #483271
Lucky 42 for me.
Listed in approximately the order I read them, except the fiction is lumped together in the middle starting with Sartor Resartus.

  • R.G. Collingwood The Idea of History
  • David McMahon Quantum Field Theory Demystified
  • Karl Popper Realism and the Aim of Science
  • Karl Popper The Open Universe
  • Karl Popper Quantum Theory and the Schism in Physics
  • Ervin Laszlo Quantum Shift in the Global Brain
  • Jean-Paul Sartre Critique of Dialectial Reason Vol. 1
  • George Herbert Mead Mind, Self, and Society
  • Max Weber The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism
  • Max Weber Economy and Society
  • Talcott Parsons The Structure of Social Action Vol. 1
  • Talcott Parsons The Structure of Social Action Vol. 2
  • Karl Marx The Portable Karl Marx
  • Karl Marx Capital Vol. 1
  • Karl Marx Capital Vol. 2
  • Karl Marx Capital Vol. 3
  • John Dewey Human Nature and Conduct
  • John Dewey Democracy and Education
  • Erving Goffman The Presentation of Self in Everyday Life
  • Thomas Carlyle The French Revolution
  • Thomas Carlyle Sartor Resartus
  • Benjamin Disraeli Sybil
  • Aldous Huxley Island
  • Laurence Sterne The Life and Opinions of Tristram Shandy
  • H.G. Wells Selected Short Stories
  • Charles Dickens The Old Curiosity Shop
  • Charles Dickens Hard Times
  • Charles Dickens The Mystery of Edwin Drood
  • Weis/Hickman Elven Star
  • Weis/Hickman Fire Sea
  • Weis/Hickman Serpent Mage
  • Weis/Hickman Hand of Chaos
  • Weis/Hickman Into the Labyrinth
  • Weis/Hickman Seventh Gate
  • Jurgen Habermas Theory of Communicative Action Vol. 1
  • Jurgen Habermas Theory of Communicative Action Vol. 2
  • Jurgen Habermas Between Facts and Norms: Discourse Theory of Law and Democracy
  • Jurgen Habermas The Inclusion of the Other:Studies in Political Theory
  • Ernst Cassirer Language and Myth
  • Ernst Cassirer An Essay on Man
  • Ferdinand de Saussure Course in General Linguistics
  • Thomas De Quincy Confessions of an English Opium Eater


Bertoldo December 28, 2020 at 15:15 #483274
This year I read 45 books. It is not the best quantity, but anyways, it is sufficiently good.
The last one was an essay of Ivan Kireevsky, an orthodox philosopher, of the Slavophile movement.
On the Necessity and Possibility of New Principles in Philosophy - I. Kireevsky.

By the way, I'm currently reading Phaedrus.