Sometimes I do silly things like transcribe the ramblings of lunatics just to see what it looks like. Here are the results of my most recent such endeavor: (it's pretty fun to read along with his incoherent rant).
[hide] [i]"I-I-I-t's Brian Stelter - there it is - oh my God.
I mean, that is a hard... Movie... Cover....
Seriously! He is scarier looking than "It" the clown...
I mean, would you let your children anywhere near that... ... Psychopath?
I mean that is a "psy--cho--path" right there,
I mean LOOK at him!
GOD![/i]
*whimper*
[i]I mean, i-i-it just, it cries out: Danger! Danger! Alert! Alert! I am a scumbag! I am filth! I am your enemy!
Ah-ee-I would literally... Not be able to finish my dinner... If some, if somebody walked over and talked to me that looked like these two guys...
And I'm sorry... They not just lying anti-American SCUMBAGS! That wanna RUN US ALL IN TO THE GROUND! CAUSE THEY'RE LITTLE MEN! THEY'RE PIECES OF CRAP! THEY THINK THEY'RE BETTER THAN EVERYBODY!
That's what it's about! It's the SPIRIT OF EVIIIIL!!! AND WE MUST BREAK THEM!!![/i]
*sigh of exasperation*
I've tried to do joke photos to look disingenuous, and I can make any face I want to, but I can't pull it off. Cause the eyes... Chico... It's always in the eyes...
[b]*Sigh*
*Groan*
*Sigh*[/b]
[i]Oh my gosh. Oh... Hell on earth...
He wants to run your life. He wants to control every aspect of your life because he knows he is a cowardly, degenerate, sack of anti-human trash...
I pledge before my heavenly father that I-I-I-I-I-buh-eh-uh-buh-will resist them wuh-uh-eh-uh-eh-every way that I can. These people are the literal--demon--spawn--of--the pit--of hell.
Look at him! And you know what? He is better than you if you keep letting him run your life.
He runs your kids, he runs the schools, he runs thew banks; THIS GUY!
THIS SPIRIT! THIS SMILING LEERING DEVIL! THAT THINKS--YOU--CAN'T--SEE--WHAT--HE--IS!
HE IS YOUR E-N-E-M-Y! PERIOD: All the narcissistic, devil worshiping, FILTH![/i]
*Sigh of exhaustion*
[i]I see you enemy... I SEE YOU ENEMY! -- ENEMY! -- ENEMY! -- YOU ARE MY -- ENEMY! AND I SWEAR TOTAL RESISTANCE TO YOU WITH EVERYTHING I'VE GOT!!!
Disingenuous. Fake! FALSE!!!
BROKE-BACK!
TWISTED!
A DEFILER! A BETRAYER!
A BACK-STABBER... A DEVIL!!![/i] *visibly and audibly overcome with extreme anger*
YOU WILL PAY... YEA YOU THINK I DON'T SEE YOUR FACE, SCUM? YOU DON'T THINK I DON'T SEE YOU? STELTER? I SEE YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND ME? I KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF ME AND MY FAMILY. *snorts* I SEE YOU RIGHT BACK! YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT STELTER?
In 2015 a 23 year old Austrailian bank employee claiming to be named Phuc Dat Bich posted a photo of his passport ID to Facebook protesting that the company had unfairly shut down his account for being "false and misleading." "Is it because I'm Asian?" he asked.
VagabondSpectreAugust 05, 2018 at 16:23#2031250 likes
Reply to Baden Around a year ago Glenn Beck did an interview with Anderson Cooper. The power couple "Glanderson Booper" was instantly born. I couldn't resists making some fan art.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 06, 2018 at 13:27#2033650 likes
:yikes: My youngest indian will be back at college in 18 days as a Sophomore and my eldest indian is moving out at the end of August, taking with him his doggie named Duchess that my dog Bailey has really grown best friends with as they arrived at the same time in our lives and are both 3yrs old. Both will have playmates here and at his new place buttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt……..waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa ………..my heart is stretching as I logically support them in their endeavors but my heart over rides my logical mind and goes back to the nnnnnoooooo….don't leave me...…. the circle of my family's hearts have been here for the last three months and for that I am grateful but as a parent who has cohabitated her body with these children? The hole that is growing in my heart as their departure dates grow near is almost too painful to experience but when I feel that pain, I grab whichever child is closest to me and hugg them without letting them go~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I know.... "I shouldn't do that" but wtf? It's how I feel!
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 06, 2018 at 13:29#2033660 likes
As I reread my post I realize that this might be a "chic" thing and I wonder how many guys are like NicK in saying "Seriously?"
So what else do you need a pocket-sized version of me for?
Your quick wit and your ability to think one or two thoughts past where the rest of the group stops. That would be an amazing tool to learn from you but is very situational in nature and not written down ahead of time.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 06, 2018 at 14:22#2033810 likes
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The Internet is not good here, I'll reply to the threads and such when I get back, unless if I feel brave to try it lol... Later y'all.
VagabondSpectreAugust 06, 2018 at 18:38#2034510 likes
Reply to Baden Arpiao's astonishment when Sacha told him he has 43 guns almost humanized him for a moment, but then nodded in understanding when he explained they were for the upcoming race-war...
From a journalistic perspective, Sacha really is somewhat answering the question "Who is America?
Reply to hyena in petticoat All you will do is make an appearance and then disappear again, leaving us all having to go through the feelings of loss of meaningless all over again. Why do you do this to us?
hyena in petticoatAugust 06, 2018 at 22:32#2035000 likes
Reply to Hanover
I’m sorry dear but it does look like you were doing fine without me here. I’m sure you are keeping everyone entertained.
hyena in petticoatAugust 06, 2018 at 22:33#2035010 likes
Reply to Sapientia Oh Sap, I saw what you did there. Haha! It’s been a while. Good to see you!
hyena in petticoatAugust 06, 2018 at 22:37#2035030 likes
Sorry for being on and off on and off always. I just do not have the capacity to engage in decent discussions and for so long haven’t been posting anything substantial. It’s a bit of a shame really. But if you can forgive my usual senseless, I will commit to setting a reminder on my phone to check in here every now and then. Hehe
It's now your turn to become a burden to your children.
Hmmm... I am not sure I want to do that quite yet or more specifically, I am not sure I know how to do that.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 07, 2018 at 14:27#2036460 likes
Holy Cannoli! In going back to school I looked over my college transcript and it is clear when I met NicK as my GPA went from a strong 3.5 to a weak 2.7 over a single year. :scream:
hyena in petticoatAugust 07, 2018 at 14:35#2036490 likes
A close friend of mine whom I've collab'd a lot on music with just came out as trans this week, and it coincides with her official announcement on joining a super dope musical group that I love. People are beautiful. She's beautiful. :hearts:
What happened to TClark? He seemed to be one of the more engaged members and then he just vanished.
I got a PM from TClark asking how to get in touch with TimeLine and I know he was touched by her and looking for her. After answering him, I dropped him a PM a month later and he has not logged in to answer. :sad:
TClark had a lovely side to him that brought to light some of the beauty around us that we might have missed and was also very open to any kind of personal conversation via PM's.
I hope he finds his way back~ :flower:
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 08, 2018 at 12:53#2040090 likes
You can still do that if you do some rigorous exercise.
An 18" pizza pie and not gain weight through rigorous exercise? Any idea how many days of that "rigorous exercise" it is going to take to work off that pie?
Or.....how many hours with the right exercise partner? :sweat:
Aleksander KvamAugust 08, 2018 at 12:57#2040100 likes
An 18" pizza pie and not gain weight through rigorous exercise? Any idea how many days of that "rigorous exercise" it is going to take to work off that pie?
Well, according to this there's 2,525 in an 18" pizza. A man needs 2,500 calories a day, so the amount of excess in the pizza depends on how much you else you've eaten. A healthy diet has 400-600-600 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, with the rest on snacks and drinks, so let's say that we need to burn off 1,925 calories (which works for both men and women). As a rough estimate you burn 100 calories per mile of running, so that's 19 miles. So 3 miles of running a day for a week?
Or you can swim to burn 300–444 calories per half hour, which is two and a half hours to burn it all.
That all depends on where you are from. Above, you will hear a few East coasters that believe you should be able to pick up a piece of pizza pie. Where I am from, you need a fork and knife for pizza pie. :grin:
Aleksander KvamAugust 08, 2018 at 13:36#2040230 likes
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff well, I kind of meant whats in it..the layers...there isnt any pizza-pie in norway :) not to my knowlegde anyway...
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 08, 2018 at 13:36#2040240 likes
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 08, 2018 at 13:41#2040260 likes
Reply to Aleksander Kvam Ohh! Well then, Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
Pizza pie has a pie like crust in that it goes up the side of the pan and you start layering with an 16" thin sausage patty (it keeps the crust from getting soggy) tomato sauce, Mozzarella slices of cheese, a layer of Pepperoni disks, a layer of shredded Mozzarella cheese and topped off with a slightly inner circle of tomato sauce. It takes about 45 min to cook (everything is precooked before being assembled) and it is flipping amazing. :up:
Reply to Aleksander Kvam With Google images you have to right click on the image and open the image in a new tab to see the actual URL to put in the img tags.
Aleksander KvamAugust 08, 2018 at 14:06#2040460 likes
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:)
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 08, 2018 at 14:26#2040480 likes
I still cannot do it that way. I go to https://postimages.org where I can upload the picture that I have saved from whatever search I have gotten the image from.
[url=https://postimages.org/]
It's a total pain in the ass but it gets around not posting an image.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 08, 2018 at 14:28#2040490 likes
Why not? You stole Santa Lucia from the Italians for some devious pagan purpose -- why didn't you steal their pizza as well? And don't localize it -- nobody wants fish on lefsa.
Aleksander KvamAugust 08, 2018 at 16:20#2040790 likes
Select a good quality frozen pizza, put it in the oven, and bake it for 23 minutes at 325ºF. (165ºC). "DiGiorno/Delissio rising dough" is good. ("It's not delivery -- it's Digiorno!") You'll have to air-freight it from New York, probably.
If you should feel obligated to make your own, 3 things:
1. The bread is important: make it from scratch. Add appropriate Italianate spices to bread.
2. A very good spiced tomato sauce is essential. Do they even sell mediocre spiced tomato sauce in Norway?
3. Plentiful mozzarella cheese is crucial, but add some grated romano or parmesan on top
If you are using sausage (and you can, you shall, you must, you will), use good Italian sausages with garlic, fennel, etc. Canadian bacon (or the Danish equivalent); vegetables? a scattering of red or green bell pepper, canned black or green olives, spinach if you must; garlic should be in there someplace... Chicken is too bland to be interesting on pizza. Ditto ground beef. Avoid salmon, whale, octopus, salt cod, reindeer liver, pork guts, members of the cabbage family; most fruits except tomatoes; tofu...
I got a PM from TClark asking how to get in touch with TimeLine and I know he was touched by her and looking for her. After answering him, I dropped him a PM a month later and he has not logged in to answer. :sad:
TClark had a lovely side to him that brought to light some of the beauty around us that we might have missed and was also very open to any kind of personal conversation via PM's.
I hope he finds his way back~ :flower:
Thanks for the info - I was actually wondering if there was a connection with the TimeLine thing . Hope he comes back, too.
VagabondSpectreAugust 08, 2018 at 21:31#2041420 likes
Where have all the flowers gone?
Young girls have picked them, every one.
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the young girls gone?
Gone for husbands, everyone...
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the husbands gone?
Gone for soldiers, everyone...
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Gone to graveyards, everyone...
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Gone to flowers, every one...
When will they ever learn?
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff If you find an image you want to post, and are using a Mac and Safari, (I think Firefox is similar) hold the control button and click on the image -- select "copy image address". Then back at TPF, paste the image address into the image window. The image address will stay on your clipboard until you copy something -- anything -- else.
Note: The above technique does not work for images brought up and presented in Google Search. Google provides a link to the site where the image came from. There you can copy the web address.
Reply to Aleksander Kvam The last time I made a pizza was probably 60 years ago. Since then I have been totally satisfied by socially produced pizza -- either at a pizza place or from a freezer. Pizza is like sex: When it's good it's terrific, and when it isn't good... it's... you know, not that bad.
What's wrong with burkas? Boris Johnson said people who wear them look like post boxes.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-45112792
I think they are oppressive and weird, but hijabs are OK as long as they're not forced on the wearer, and they're actually quite practical in hot countries
Thanks for the info - I was actually wondering if there was a connection with the TimeLine thing . Hope he comes back, too.
You are quite welcome. I hope he finds his way back here but I remind myself that everyone is on their journey and it is theirs to choose the path that is right for them, at that moment in their lives. :flower:
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 09, 2018 at 02:15#2042020 likes
I used to work at Pizza Hut as a cook and deliverer. I'll never relive that glory.
Omggggggg! The pizza delivery guy who came to our house was hot and on more than one occasion accepted shots of Vodka but he couldn't use his hands to down it. Good times! Great Tips!!
I think [burkas] are oppressive and weird, but hijabs are OK as long as they're not forced on the wearer, and they're actually quite practical in hot countries.
How is it oppressive to wear a burka in those cases where it's the woman's choice, and not forced on her? How is it rational to say that burkas are oppressive (without qualification), yet hijabs are okay as long as they're not forced on the wearer? What's the difference?
From the very article you linked to:
[quote=BBC News]UK mother-of-seven Tahira Noor, who has been wearing a burka for 20 years, says it's "100% my choice" and Mr Johnson's comments show a "lack of knowledge".
The "majority of the women who wear the burka" she says, are born and brought up in Britain. They are "educated in this country, they've been to colleges, universities, and have understood why they want to do what they're doing," she told BBC Radio 5 Live .
"They're under no oppression, they're not doing it because their husbands want them to or their fathers want them to."
Ms Noor has four daughters none of whom wear a burka.
"I haven't forced my daughters into it because I don't have to," she said.
"It's not a must. It's not an obligation. However... [it] gets you closer to God. It's a spiritual thing more than anything else."
She is "not under an obligation" to cover her face but does so because it is "emulating" the Prophet Muhammad.
So, how does she respond if asked to remove her covering for security reasons?
"I'm happy to take my veil off," she said, citing the example of being asked to at a bank.
"When I travel, and I do travel, sometimes I don't even wear [it] because I think it's a lot easier not to [for] security reasons.[/quote]
Reply to Sapientia Even if we assume they are all oppressed there's a serious problem with critical thinking if people think the solution is State oppression through a ban.
For security reasons even private parties can ask to either remove the Burqa or ask the person in question to leave. So it serves no purpose other than moralising nonsense that plays into the need for people to punish others for perceived slights. Thus racist to boot.
Even if we assume they are all oppressed there's a serious problem with critical thinking if people think the solution is State oppression through a ban.
This is purely hypothetical, given that they're not all oppressed, but I disagree. If they were all oppressed, then a State ban would prevent the oppression of victims of oppression, and it would only oppress the oppressors, who are the perpetrators of oppression. So it would be the right thing.
If they were all oppressed, then a State ban would prevent the oppression of victims of oppression, and it would only oppress the oppressors, who are the perpetrators of oppression. So it would be the right thing.
That's the wrong conclusion. What would happen is that these women wouldn't be allowed outside anymore.
Reply to unenlightened That's the wrong conclusion. What would happen is that this Boris wouldn't be allowed inside the Houses of Parliament anymore. That would be State oppression! (And, incidentally, Boris is a liability who provides useful ammunition against the Tories).
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 09, 2018 at 13:54#2043140 likes
I have wondered about that. It wouldn't be the first time that a person who has done something nefarious or is going to do something nefarious, has disguised themselves as the opposite gender to observe or escape capture.
unenlightenedAugust 09, 2018 at 13:55#2043150 likes
He's an annoying opportunist devoid of principle looking across the Atlantic for inspiration on how to appeal to the worst elements of society. All of which suggests to me that far from being banned, he'll end up your next Prime Minister.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Phew. It's alright now. The situation is back under control. I resisted and went shopping. Three out of four dinners I bought are pizza, but that's still better than takeaway.
Yeah but even in the desert the weeds grow between the rocks. In the week after a Monsoon storm the valley takes on a bright green color as the desert takes life. Yesterday I had to take down a Mesquite tree and have a huge pile of fire kindling for the next camping trip. One I just might take on my own. :up:
"President's Obama's consistent agenda has been to weaken the U.S. and our allies in pursuit of a more 'balanced' global power structure." - Ben Shapiro
It's truly amazing how full of shit the Right are in this country.
Ah and there it is!
There was nothing "childish" about making a simile of Shapiro's incessant request for a "debate", with a man who repeatedly catcalls a women, seeking a response and attention. The simile was apt; and just like catcalling, even when the man gets rejected, he rejoices over the mere fact that he received attention. So what's actually childish is Ben Shapiro and other conservatives running a misplaced victory circle over her refusing to debate, when she has absolutely no obligation to do so, especially from someone who runs a fairly far-right website, used to work for Breitbart (even when it had a whole section dedicated to "black crime"), and spent most of his twenties producing anti-Arab, anti-Black, and yes, even anti-Semitic op-eds and videos.
Shapiro's whole career is made from provocation and attention seeking, and demanding a debate with a not-yet-elected woman is a simple demonstration as to how he uses the fame of others to propel himself further into the spotlight and the national conversation. It was a win-win scenario for Shapiro. On one hand, he is a seasoned debater, but being a good debater doesn't mean your arguments are true, but that they sound true to the audience. Ocasio-Cortez is not a seasoned debater, and would likely have "lost". One the other hand, if she refused, he could, as he is doing now, call her a coward and say that she doesn't believe in her ideas strongly enough or some shit like that.
The fact is, public debates are a terrible way to gauge the veracity of arguments and ideas. They are about using flash, rhetoric, and zingy liners to "own" an opponent. They are a performance show, and Shapiro is nothing more than an entertaining showman, and he knows it.
His admission that he has never been targeted so much by racists since he came out has anti-trump was a pure delicacy. There are at least a dozen entries on wikiquotes alone of him denying a link between the Right and racism.
Aleksander KvamAugust 10, 2018 at 23:50#2047660 likes
The fact is, public debates are a terrible way to gauge the veracity of arguments and ideas. They are about using flash, rhetoric, and zingy liners to "own" an opponent. They are a performance show, and Shapiro is nothing more than an entertaining showman, and he knows it.
I think people just sometimes forgets to be civil...
Reply to Maw
Ocasio-Cortez needs to up her game knowledge-wise to where she can take the likes of Shapiro on in a debate and beat him. She has the better ideas, but she makes too many mistakes. I saw her talk about Israel recently, for example, and she was hopeless. She shouldn't get a pass from the left because she's on the left. Yes, she's young but she's in the national spotlight now. Time to read some books, broaden knowledge, hone ideas and bury the likes of Shapiro, who are intellectual light weights anyway. The answer to any debate challenge by any right winger as high profile and as full of rubbish ideas like him should be a resounding 'Yes'. Then wipe the floor with him and move on.
Perhaps we should also stop looking at it in terms of who would wipe the floor with whom. It's a political debate, not a freaking luchador fight. Ben Shapiro lost the political fight the second he decided not to fight it. Ocasio-Cortez doesn't need to prove herself his intellectual equal. She already proved herself to be the superior politican and activist by simply trying and getting elected.
Reply to Baden She's definitely rough around the edges. There's no denying that, and her political team needs to polish her up here and there. But if you conduct a live interview with nearly any politician long enough they are going to say something wrong or flat out stupid at some point. And while I know you don't fit into this category, it's immensely hypocritical for Trump supporters to criticize AOC when she makes factual errors.
Ultimately, there is absolutely no point for any politician to engage in a debate with Ben Shapiro, who is just looking for attention, and riling up his fan-base and the general conservative-base. Besides, Ben Shapiro has been asked to debate by left-wing intellectuals before, who are more on his "level" insofar as they are political commentators, journalists, pundits, rather than politicians. Sometimes he accepts them, sometimes he refuses them, when he knows they are in fact more intelligent than him (see Nathan J. Robinson, or Matt Bruenig). Again, he's not interested in having a fruitful, honest discussion. He's looking to gain attention and "own the libs".
The political arena is bigger than a local campaign. She has become the new face of Democratic Socialism. Whether she actually debates him or not, she needs to show herself as capable.
And while I know you don't fit into this category, it's immensely hypocritical for Trump supporters to criticize AOC when she makes factual errors.
Of course, they're hypocritical, and tribal and not interested in anything other than supporting their own side. Which is why we have to do the opposite and say when they criticize her rightly "You are right on that one and she needs to do better". I'm not interested in supporting the right person regardless of their ideas, I'm interested in supporting the right ideas regardless of the person. And you have to be able to articulate those ideas properly. You can't just surf along on your popularity hoping for the best because when you drown you'll pull everyone else down with you. So, for example, she's good on social issues, but needs to up her game on international, and also needs to stop making sweeping generalized statements that can easily be shown to be false and used against her, like when she said unemployment is low because "everyone has two jobs". No, they don't, roughly 5% of people have two jobs. Unemployment being low is a good thing, but the low quality of jobs and stagnating wages should be the focus of the rebuttal that everything is hunky dory.
Again, he's not interested in having a fruitful, honest discussion. He's looking to gain attention and "own the libs".
Absolutely. But the fact that he thinks he can so easily "own" her and may even be right is the issue. Again, she has the better ideas. And, all things being equal, the better ideas will always own the worse ones unless there's an issue with their vehicle. So, I support her and every bona fide Dem socialist but she needs to reciprocate by upping her game in terms of her public representation of the ideas, which as you said is (and understandably) rough around the edges.
She has become the new face of Democratic Socialism. Whether she actually debates him or not, she needs to show herself as capable.
"Handling Ben Shapiro" is not a requirement for a good leader. Neither is an encyclopedic knowledge of modern geo-politics. I mean, it's not bad, but yes, there are plenty of conservatives who happen to have more knowledge of current politics than me. Doesn't mean I'll ever concede to their disgusting and immoral social stances.
Her interview where Israel and Palestine came up was cringeworthy. It's not encyclopedic knowledge to be able to know what the West Bank and Gaza are, and what the basic distinction between them is. This is the international issue of the day. There's hardly anything more important. So, you may be right that debating Shapiro would be a bad idea, but as I keep saying she needs to be able to debate at that level, or she's not going to be much use to anyone except locally. That's the tough truth.
Right, so at the heart of the matter, AOC and her team need to better anticipate the questions she will likely be posed, and formulate coherent responses to them. No one knew who she was two months ago, and suddenly she experienced a deluge of attention and hard hitting questions. She needs time, but she's smart and capable, so she'll get there. But my point is is that the best way to express her political maturity isn't by debating Ben Shapiro or others who just want to use her to gain attention, and who will never change their mind, but rather to continue to organize the democratic socialist base, convince non-voters to vote democrat/far left, and to appear on authentic news outlets to express her ideas.
Fair enough. I'm not hung up on her debating him. I just don't want the left to get stuck in the rah-rah team politics the right is generally in that prevents them thinking critically about their political representatives. So, I'd like to see her, as you said, prepare better for interviews etc, as the media in general as well as the right will cut her down. It's not like MSNBC or CNN are on the side of Dem Socialism or ever will be.
Right, few major news outlets will fawn over the idea of Democratic Socialism. The Atlantic, in fact just published an utterly moronic piece attempting to discredit the idea because of some inane notion that democracy harms minorities (as if Capitalism doesn't have a bad track record). So the idea itself, and AOC, have an uphill battle to fight.
What is our present philosophical epoch? Post-postmodernism continues to sound like a placeholder; Speculative Realism didn't take off, for good reasons.
- This is the international issue of the day. There's hardly anything more important.
I'm really not so sure. I mean, yes, it would be fairly important knowledge for anyone applying to a diplomatic position, but not so much for a legislative one.
If she had run a program of, lets say, reorganising the CRS panel on Middle Eastern researches, then yeah, she would have shown a pretty glaring lack of preparations. All in all, she strikes me as exactly the kind of pick you would make to inject energy and modern values into a legislative organ.
And she is what, 29? What she'll lack in political acumen and knowledge, she'll make up for by simply not calling the internet 'a serie of tubes'. Hopefully she reads up a bit on current geopolotics before running for Glorious Tsarina of the Glorious Socialist United States of Glorious America.
Reply to Maw She'd be battered in a debate and rightly refused, but her stated reason was sexist and suggested pathetically that Shapiro was just seeking attention from a pretty young woman, which she happens to be.
Support her values all you want, but she is a lightweight who is going to bring embarrassment to her cause because she's ill equipped to defend it and, like it or not, is the face for socialism right now.
Had Pelosi or Hillary been challenged to a debate, they too would have refused, but it would not have been for fear of being made to look stupid.
uggested pathetically that Shapiro was just seeking attention from a pretty young woman, which she happens to be.
No she didn't say he was doing that. She made an analogy to that. Not the best thing to do imo but still not the same as actually suggesting that was what he was doing.
I say use what you've got and be unreasonable and ruthless about it. Expect the same from your opponent.
I think its that kind of attiude that prevents a debate to come to a conclusion. if there isnt any kind of mutal respect, its bound to fail. a debate should allways be about the issue at hand and not the ego. am I wrong?
In the present state of things, there is no middle ground, no possible compromise, and so nothing to debate.
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 15:00#2048960 likes
I have managed to "change the climate" on several occasions...even how loud or demeaning they may be, I just keep my cool. and even if he keeps interupting me, I let him finish. like I said previously, some just need to be reminded about being civil. A proper debate is an lost art it seems.
Be honest, humble and respectful to your opponent, and hopefully you get the same in return. The odds for a beneifical outcome is then off to a much better start.
Reply to Aleksander Kvam Look at what's needed to engage in real debate. Then assess whether those elements exist. If not, you can try to take the higher road. That's what H Clinton did. It bought her nothing.
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 15:14#2049010 likes
To offen do I see political debates were they are just trash-talking to each other while talking simultaneously and I just start wondering why they even bother. Nothing is resolved at the end of it!
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 15:16#2049020 likes
Reply to frank I think I`ve allready mentioned the virtues needed to engage in a debate. and it is possible, if people would just make an effort.
And what is the greatest Norwegian work of art in your opinion?
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 15:27#2049070 likes
Reply to frank I have not read anything by Charles Dickens. why do you ask? curious question...
as for art...does music count? If so, Norwegian Black Metal. :smile: The sound is so fitting to the landscape and climate and the lyrical themes reflect norway in so many ways.
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 15:30#2049080 likes
Reply to Baden Sure, just an analogy, yet it would apply directly to her as an attractive woman and he as someone seeking someone out of his league. We can pretend she wasn't telling him he was a pathetic female attention seeking loser, but that was her point, express or tacit. It was Trumpesque.
Deleted UserAugust 11, 2018 at 15:39#2049130 likes
I'm BACK! :cool: What'd I miss?
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 15:41#2049140 likes
Trump's out. Someone gave him an enema and by the time they were finished, what was left hardly filled a matchbox and wasn't recognizably functional enough to be considered President. I believe it's still tweeting though...
Reply to Hanover I don't know why you keep mentioning that catcalling is only done to attractive women. Many women, regardless of how attractive they may be, have been catcalled. I've seen it, I've heard it from other women who I don't find particularly good-looking. It's not like AOC was calling herself attractive by using the simile.
Trump's out. Someone gave him an enema and by the time they were finished, what was left hardly filled a matchbox and wasn't recognizably functional enough to be considered President. I believe it's still tweeting though..
Reply to Maw Catcalling is done to women by men who they think are attractive. That you've seen women you think are ugly catcalled just means different strokes for different folks. I've seen men even marry women I found atrocious for a number of reasons.
You are somewhat right, but the truth of the matter is that neither Shapiro nor Ocasio-Cortez would have entered a debate with each other where it was actually possible for each other to convince the other. The whole point wss not for Shapiro to prove to the Left they had taken up an idiot as a standsrd bearer, but, regardless of her performance, to provide soundbites to the alt-right to spam at each occasion, screaming that she got destroyed by Ben.
He did the same with Cenk (who happens to be an loudmouthed idiot, so it was somewhat deserved) and you still get trolls on every TYT post telling Cenk how bad he was in the debate.
Basically, you would get a rerun of Sam Harris vs Craig God Debate 2, where everyone is talking past each other and yet every sides comes out convinced they owned the others.
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 18:51#2049890 likes
Reply to Akanthinos You are probally right, but I was thinking of debating in general. Sorry if I was misleading. I dont even know who does people are.
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 19:15#2049940 likes
It's not like MSNBC or CNN are on the side of Dem Socialism or ever will be.
Ought they be on any side?
VagabondSpectreAugust 11, 2018 at 19:49#2050020 likes
If Ocasio was a man, could he have accused Shapiro of "dick-calling"?
We may never know...
But it does reek of lazy minded identity politics to characterize an invitation to a political debate as a sexual pass. We really need to get over such nonsense...
Reply to VagabondSpectre How is it identity politics? It was underhanded politics. Is there an advantage to being civil? Other than owning the higher moral ground?
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 20:04#2050090 likes
its admirable to be civil to inspire civility. like I have said before.
She used Shapiro's identity as a male against him by framing his invitation as typical sexually motivated male behavior. In the #MeToo era it's quite derisive and divisive.
Is there an advantage to being civil? Other than owning the higher moral ground?
Well, yes. Civility, respect, and charity allow for better versions of arguments to be made (and debates to actually happen). Better arguments in debates means better outcomes in general. Audiences and participants get better informed, who perhaps then adjust their views to better approximate truth.
Public debates between politicians are meant to put them and their ideas to the test. Sometimes all we test for is the ability of a pundit or politician to inspire the most hatred in the most people, but for the sake of democracy (and our own sorry keisters) they ought to be aiming for understanding and agreement.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 11, 2018 at 20:26#2050230 likes
"We"? I did not have pizza or a pizza pie! @Sapientia Got pizza!
Did @Maw get pizza because he is the one who started this whole craving! BTW did you know there is Cauliflower crusted pizza for those who can't have the carbs? I didn't but I am sure there are people out there saying "Just close your eyes and imagine it tastes like flour crust!
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 20:26#2050240 likes
Reply to frank Well, then you lose. The way I see it, if there is no civility, no mutual respect, there are no "winners"
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 20:27#2050250 likes
She used Shapiro's identity as a male against him by framing his invitation as typical sexually motivated male behavior. In the #MeToo era it's quite derisive and divisive.
If it's devisive it's not advantageous, but is it?
Trump has already started subtle sexist attacks on Warren. The multitide of Republicans will still vote for him.
Catcalling is done to women by men who they think are attractive. That you've seen women you think are ugly catcalled just means different strokes for different folks.
Right, so calling her attractive, or saying, "Sure, just an analogy, yet it would apply directly to her as an attractive woman" is unnecessary.
Did Maw get pizza because he is the one who started this whole craving!
Lol I'm literally watching food videos on Youtube, and one is with a famous pizza maker in Brooklyn. It's making me so hungry :joke:
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 20:37#2050330 likes
Reply to frank A debate should be as professional as possible, so the people at home watching can make up their own mind and not be side-tracked by shitty-behavior. If someone is correct about something, then he is correct about something. No matter how shitty the person is, or is belived to be.
Reply to Aleksander Kvam Very upstanding of you, but with that attitude your best bet is to put on your Asian peasant hat and blend with the ashes like a Taoist master.
Aleksander KvamAugust 11, 2018 at 20:44#2050380 likes
Reply to frank Im not planing to get involded with politics, so it OK :)
its a dirty game.
Itt: butthurt men upset that people - male or female - are not obligated to respond to each and every solicitation they get by randoms.
Also the idea that catcalling only takes place when men find the women attractive - rather than being pure egotrip - is so naive that its almost cute. Suggestion: talk to any woman ever.
VagabondSpectreAugust 11, 2018 at 22:42#2050710 likes
Reply to StreetlightX But shirley, it's not just like cat-calling for one of the most popular conservative pundits to solicit a debate from one of the most popular progressive politicians. Shapiro annoys me as much as anyone, but does he really have "bad-intentions"? (I suppose one's opponents always have bad intentions)...
Perhaps he wanted to embarrass her in a debate? Granted, that's not a worthwhile debate, but unfortunately Shapiro then gets away with the line that he is the one offering discussion on actual substantive issues. Overall this whole twittastrophe benefits Shapiro because it fits his caricature of the left.
Overall this whole twittastrophe benefits Shapiro it fits his narrative.
It's okay. He needs all the help since he race-baited himself by basically being a professional race-baiter that underestimated how much his audience was more into race-baiting than into him.
:smirk:
VagabondSpectreAugust 11, 2018 at 22:48#2050760 likes
Reply to StreetlightX Admittedly twitter doesn't interest me much, nor do I know its grand workings, but are you averring that twitter isn't all about deep discussion of substantive issues?
I thought the debate was going to go down talk-radio style...
(or are you perhaps referring to some sort of faux-pas where tweeting at people crosses a line?)
Following the Canada-Saudi Arabia diplomatic spat over last week, I learned that Twitter was actually the primary social media platform for diplomats. Something around 120 embassies have a dedicated twitter account for diplomatic use.
The Mind.
It Boggles it.
Aleksander KvamAugust 12, 2018 at 00:46#2051180 likes
My sweet summer child, what would I trade but for your innocence!
/pol/ is the political commentary section of 4chan, an anonymous message board. It is 100% filled with racist stormfronter (neonazis) or people pretending to be racist stormfronters for the lulz. It is so toxic that it actually is one of the place on 4chan where your post history is tracked automatically.
Reply to ????????????? I missed the Hitler avatar, but I distinctly remember reading that first post and being unable to make it through more than one sentence before my eyes glazed over, and I think someone else deleted it for being incomprehensible. His latest post seems like a bunch of psychoceramics as well, but then again, I glaze over reading his posts in there too so I can't really tell. Anyway, please PM one of us if there are other concerns, and we'll evaluate from there (don't want to discuss mod things too much in here).
Its just an image board site. Depending on the board you might not be exposed to anything worst than dank memes and frogposts. /tg/ (traditional games) and /lit/ are usually fine and sometimes you can find some really interesting stuff there. But everywhere else, as a rule almost everyone will be an asshole to everyone else.
Reply to Akanthinos I think I'll avoid it. But I was thinking: why claim Nazism? Is "white supremacist" too tame? Does "white nationalist" not get the point across? When is that extra ingredient of 1940s Germany required?
Lol I'm literally watching food videos on Youtube, and one is with a famous pizza maker in Brooklyn. It's making me so hungry :joke:
You're killin me here Maw! But I guess it is better to be battered with suggestions of pizza than defending Trump, at least for the moment. We have another 6 years to go. OMG I cannot go without Pizza for 6 years!
:smirk: I will find your Achilles heel my dear :razz:
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 12, 2018 at 14:58#2052790 likes
OMG I have Earth shattering news!
I FINALLY understand the concept of 'infinity'! There was a reason I couldn't wrap my mind around it!
It is never ending and always changing so therefore cannot be captured for my mind to wrap around it. Because from wherever it is, it is always able to slip away into the next.
I really must track down @Incision he will be SO proud!
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 12, 2018 at 15:05#2052800 likes
Name this song if you can based on the lyrics provided without any help from the Internet:
"What's wrong with the world, mama
People livin' like they ain't got no mamas
I think the whole world addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma
Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK..."
"I only heard him read once. It was in New York, last week. I had a seat about the middle of Steinway Hall, and that was rather further away from the speaker than was pleasant or profitable.
"Promptly at 8 P.M., unannounced, and without waiting for any stamping or clapping of hands to call him out, a tall, "spry," (if I may say it,) thin-legged old gentleman, gotten up regardless of expense, especially as to shirt-front and diamonds, with a bright red flower in his button-hole, gray beard and moustache, bald head, and with side hair brushed fiercely and tempestuously forward, as if its owner were sweeping down before a gale of wind, the very Dickens came! He did not emerge upon the stage -- that is rather too deliberate a word -- he strode. He strode -- in the most English way and exhibiting the most English general style and appearance -- straight across the broad stage, heedless of everything, unconscious of everybody, turning neither to the right nor the left -- but striding eagerly straight ahead, as if he had seen a girl he knew turn the next corner. He brought up handsomely in the centre and faced the opera glasses. His pictures are hardly handsome, and he, like everybody else, is less handsome than his pictures. That fashion he has of brushing his hair and goatee so resolutely forward gives him a comical Scotch-terrier look about the face, which is rather heightened than otherwise by his portentous dignity and gravity. But that queer old head took on a sort of beauty, bye and bye, and a fascinating interest, as I thought of the wonderful mechanism within it, the complex but exquisitely adjusted machinery that could create men and women, and put the breath of life into them and alter all their ways and actions, elevate them, degrade them, murder them, marry them, conduct them through good and evil, through joy and sorrow, on their long march from the cradle to the grave, and never lose its godship over them, never make a mistake! I almost imagined I could see the wheels and pulleys work. This was Dickens -- Dickens. There was no question about that, and yet it was not right easy to realize it. Somehow this puissant god seemed to be only a man, after all. How the great do tumble from their high pedestals when we see them in common human flesh, and know that they eat pork and cabbage and act like other men."
-Mark Twain 2/5/1868
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 12, 2018 at 15:33#2052830 likes
Reply to Aleksander Kvam It just came home to him that Dickens was not only human, but a funny looking old guy.
Twain had little tolerance for what he perceived as European pretentiousness, so that fell away as he witnessed the divinity hiding in that human form.
Aleksander KvamAugust 12, 2018 at 19:59#2053360 likes
Reply to frank Good thing he didnt witness the groupies then! :lol: haha, just kidding
Protesters are milling about Washington DC. It's like a hand full of white supremacists surrounded by thousands of people wearing black t-shirts that say "NO!"
Russians were trying to get in on it to ignite violence. What a bunch of assholes.
Band: Neckbeard Deathcamp
Album: White Nationalism is for Basement Dwelling Losers
Tracklist:
01.[00:00] Cucked (Intro)
02.[01:49] The Left Are the Real Fascists
03.[04:44] Zyklon /b/
04.[09:38] XXXL Obersturmfuhrer Leather Duster
05.[12:37] Incel Warfare
06.[15:59] Please Respond (I Showed You My P***s)
07.[20:17] The Fetishization ov Asian Women Despite a Demand for a Pure White Race (Outro)
Maw, if you had to give me a dollar for each time I hear this "flawless" / "perfect " crap in a day? I would be a very wealthy lady and you my dear would be so far in bankruptcy it would rival even Maddoff's haul and debt to his share holders.
Sorry for taking it out on you because it is really a projection of what I am dealing with personally.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 12, 2018 at 22:37#2053860 likes
When the air of perfection starts to fog the mirror, it gets a little hard to absorb. I am not perfect in any way, only to say that one thing is true about me and that is I will never be perfect but that doesn't mean I am not giving it my best effort.
He's rereading the Gospels to reorientate himself on the morality of stoning people to death.
Who wants to wager that he cannot reconcile the Bible with the immorality of stoning people to death and so has decided to forsake Christianity and is currently on a week-long sex, drugs, and rock & roll bender?
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 13, 2018 at 13:49#2055570 likes
Postmodern Beatnik is doing and how his life is evolving. To me, he seemed by far the most likely to achieve a Masters in Philosophy.
Pretty sure he was a professor and so already had a PhD.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 13, 2018 at 13:57#2055600 likes
I have a question for you:
Has the society around you embraced cremation as the latest and greatest way to have yourself handled after you die? :sad:
I was brought up that you waked a person for at least two days and the third you drive in a processional, past the person's residence on the way to the cemetary, where another ceremony is held before our loved one is placed for eternity, where we can visit and pay homage to those who have gone before us.
I just feel very …. incomplete? Shorted? Someone's is shaking the foundation of how death is handled and how now it seems so....I don't know the word....it's odd and I am not sure I agree with it at all.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 13, 2018 at 14:01#2055610 likes
Pretty sure he was a professor and so already had at least a Masters (if not a Doctorate).
I knew he was in teaching but I didn't know how far he had made it. He would make one awesome instructor! It's a bummer we don't know his real name to see him on "Ratemyprofessor" which has turned out to be pretty reliable source.
Feels like the Red Scare is happening again, except this time it's about conservative reactionary forces instead of radical communist forces. Russia this, Russia that, Putin did this, Putin did that.
It's like a fever.
Actually, it's like a frustrated orgasm. Trump's reputation is dwindling, the left is calling for his impeachment and the legal proceedings are taking for-fucking-ever. Every week there's a new outrage and yet nothing happens. Americans' are starting to chafe, hurry up already.
VagabondSpectreAugust 14, 2018 at 17:55#2057610 likes
Reply to Baden There's something priceless and magical about an incorrigible gun nut being tricked into performing fellatio on national television.
These macho American men who are here to defend us from terrorists and illegal immigrants are singularly ready and willing to sacrifice so much in the name of freedom.
VagabondSpectreAugust 14, 2018 at 22:01#2058180 likes
Reply to darthbarracudaReply to frank I think Trump is teaching us all some valuable lessons by dragging us around his unhinged world (and home again?). I've been saying it for quite awhile: Trump is the pack of carcinogenic-populist cigarettes that America should have been forced to smoke for quite some time.
We can't stay on this trip forever, and more and more people are realizing they should never have elected to get on such a radically wilder ride.
If you think about it, he has been able to shape and direct the narrative of the botched presidency since he was introduced to the Oval Office... It takes some cunning and wit to be able to almost single handedly do so...
VagabondSpectreAugust 15, 2018 at 18:26#2060700 likes
Is it also a change-up in terms of dominant party platforms? Or will everything just pop back to the way it was like a massive rubber band?
Some things will return to normal, but it will be a long time before we forget about Trump and the many reasons he was elected. Trump appealed to conservatives with an impossible wall and an unconstitutional religious ban (promises people should have known were retarded from the get-go) and in general he exploited the perception that compared to others he was an honest and non-corrupt politician (in reality he's turned out to be the biggest liar and incompetent moron the white-house has ever seen). Trump was also the monkey wrench "fuck you" candidate that many disenfranchised voters opted for in lieu of Hillary Clinton.
Conservatives are getting a swift lesson in the pitfalls of isolationism and emotional thinking, and others are learning the difference between incompetence, bull-shit, and good/honest leadership. Hopefully the die hard Hillary supporters will realize that fielding her for a third time represents Trump's only hope of re-election; corporate style politics with all its nepotism and perceived corruption is what drove many to vote for Trump out of desperation in the first place.
While societal issues continue to increase in complexity it seems the standards of political dialogue have steadily decreased and trended toward the simplistic and the emotional. Now that it's abundantly clear that an absolute circus is the wrong political direction to take, my hope is that enough people will grow up and realize that mature, careful, and critical discussion is what our democracy requires. Not merely a return to older ways, but new vector of reform, hopefully toward something better (let's say, starting with a reform of the election process...).
Hopefully the die hard Hillary supporters will realize that fielding her for a third time represents Trump's only hope of re-election; corporate style politics with all its nepotism and perceived corruption is what drove many to vote for Trump out of desperation in the first place.
Hear, hear. She needs to crawl into a metaphorical hole somewhere and not come out until after the Dems win the next election.
VagabondSpectreAugust 15, 2018 at 18:38#2060760 likes
If you think about it, he has been able to shape and direct the narrative of the botched presidency since he was introduced to the Oval Office... It takes some cunning and wit to be able to almost single handedly do so...
Trump knows his way around a crowd and camera, but that's the extent of his genius I would say. It is truly a stroke of genius to get rid of one PR controversy/nightmare by starting a new one (and watch as we forget the old), but that strategy can only go on for so long before everything and everyone in a 50 mile radius of Trump is irrevocably covered in feces. Emperor Pyrrhus would approve.
Reply to VagabondSpectre You may be right, but that would require an admission of error. Some people would appear to prefer failure and potential catastrophe to that kind of admission.
Tomorrow I will give my pitch for the financial services plan I developed with two friends. I know it by heart and now I'm starting to go off script when I practise it. :rage:
Tomorrow I will give my pitch for the financial services plan I developed with two friends. I know it by heart and now I'm starting to go off script when I practise it. :rage:
Anyone have any last minute tips?
Stop practicing. Take your kids to the park and leave your phone at home to recharge your inner energy. You know the words by heart, all you can do now is have the due faith in yourself, that you can convince another to see what you are seeing in a profitable way.
It is a sign of over practicing and you are more likely to screw up if you start going off script in an effort to express what your well crafted words have presented. To stay on script and still allow for going off is to set the perimeter of your time with them as half script (uninterrupted by your stream of conscious) and the second half to entertain their questions and ideas. Keep the dancing under control but let your brilliance shine!
Good Luck my friend~
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 16, 2018 at 15:19#2063130 likes
I am here but in distraction only. My Dad in Chicago was taken from his nursing home to the hospital because he was non-responsive. By the time he made it to the ER he was able to mumble his name but nothing more. He was still in a state of confusion when I talked to him this morning and he broke down crying, to which I asked if I should come to be with him and he just started shaking (Advanced Parkinson's) because I could hear the phone rattling against the rail of the hospital bed and just kept calling "Dad? Dad?" This is killing me and when I was in Chicago in February, I took him to see his parents at the Queen Of Heaven Mausoleum and knew it was likely the last time he would see them on this Earth and I just fell apart. So now, I ask you, what do I pray for? His quality of life is gone and he has said his work here on Earth is done. I am a mess of feelings and emotions and I just cannot.... let go?.....
Because by letting go, is to say it is okay to leave me and it's simply not. Selfish? yes, I know. But I don't want him to think I have given up on him, ever.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I'm so sorry to hear that Tiff :( I don't think it's about letting go so much as just being there for him. Just your sheer presence - even if just your voice - and love, whatever will or does happen.
I know it by heart and now I'm starting to go off script when I practise it. :rage:
You should. You should stand (or sit for that matter) in front of your audience as an expert who does not need a script. If someone in the audience asked you a question, you wouldn't have a script for that (cause you wouldn't know ahead of time what they'd ask). I just got through this with a software developer pitch. I had to ask tough questions.
Of course, it's okay to consult your notes -- like a manual. Practice this. Consult your manual in front of them.
The perfect trick for public speach is to repeat the pitch every night, in bed, eyes closed, moments before you fall asleep, for at least a week before the event.
Its how I do all my orals and all my theater texts. After a few days you wake up with the whole pitch on the border of your lips. It comes naturally, without the whole preparation being completely transparent.
Reply to Akanthinos That's how I've done it actually. I've cut and molded the text until I said exactly what I wanted to say and then started to memorise.
Thats a rough time limit. Barely anything can be said under 10 minutes. Anyway, its too late to obsess over any on-time modifications, you certainly seems prepared. Advienne que pourra!
Damn... Best of luck anyway. Remind me to pay you a visit when you're a millionaire. :wink:
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 17, 2018 at 14:02#2064940 likes
@StreetlightX I am such a proactive person that I have a feeling of helplessness that is hard to settle. As long as I am in the moment with someone else, I am okay. It is when I am alone with my thoughts and fears that I break down into a mess of emotions tugging me in different directions.
In some ways I want to go into Chicago like a rabid Rottweiler going after the care facility and then turning on my half sister who is MIA in these last five years. On the other hand, I want to go into Chicago, quietly and just show up and be a ray of Sunshine in my Dad's day. The CT scan shows dilation of the tissues around the shunt in his head to keep the pressure down, so he is still on no food as he is a candidate for neurosurgery. He is not remembering my brother being with him at the hospital 24 hrs later. My understanding is that Parkinson's patients can begin Dementia and I am the third generation of Alzheimer's on my Mom's side of the family.....so as you can see my wheels are spinning and I can barely see through the tears right now.
This could happen more than once and if I am only able to afford to be there once...when do I go?
Fuck money and all it holds us back from doing.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 17, 2018 at 14:03#2064950 likes
Can we move the Donald Trump thread over to politics and current affairs? It doesn't belong here as there's nothing to lounge about Trump in my humble opinion.
Can we move the Donald Trump thread over to politics and current affairs? It doesn't belong here as there's nothing to lounge about Trump in my humble opinion.
My thought is that considering the OP and the subject of the discussion, it doesn't rise to that level.
There's nothing to stop anyone else starting a competing serious discussion on Trump in politics and current affairs though. If it's serious enough and the replies reflect that, we'll keep it separate to the "rant about Trump" discussion and mod accordingly. I have a feeling every discussion of Trump is going to end up the same way though...
Reply to BadenReply to Caldwell It went well. A bit of homework before the next meeting. They're working on another idea which isn't as good as mine but they've got sunk costs.
Yes, noticed that. Especially re the Shoutbox. It has been dominant for a long time though so a lull is not necessarily a great loss, and will give us a chance to get all sentimental about the good old days of foot fetishes, animal crackers, mad arguments etc.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 25, 2018 at 12:57#2078880 likes
The Shoutbox has always been a community thread that among others, weaves us together as people and not just positions on a philosophical topic but about some of the really important parts of each others lives have been shared here. The funny, the absurd, the painful, the place where we seek like minded thinkers, that are friends above all else. This is the place where we can interact without having a staked position in anything, well maybe a bit when we were talking about pizza but that is about the depth of it. :heart:
This Shoutbox thread and the Shoutbox at PF was where we learned about one another, where Pub wisdom was a thing people and people knew they could let their hair down here. This silly thread is where we learned about Mayor's health crisis, where we learned of Oli's (MarsMan's) passing, it is where we gathered to send everything we had, prayers, thoughts and well wishes for those facing adversity at every point in the cycle of life. Praying for the very smallest, vulnerable loved ones to survive while also praying for those facing the end of life and trying to find a way to deal with the loss.
Tears streaming here and I am just wondering where the love within the community is? :broken:
The Shoutbox is still here and it did go through lulls before. We also have "The Last Word" discussion. And I'm sure most of the regulars will still be posting here on a regular basis. I know I will. I guess it's just a bit like a mixture of the old shoutbox and the green room at old PFnow. It's a little bit quieter, but maybe more intimate. Anyway, I don't see any reason to get down about it as yet. Let's all just do our part to keep things rolling along in here.
I've never understood why this clip has been celebrated. McCain simply states that Obama is a decent, family man, and a "citizen", instead of countering the idea that an 'Arab' cannot be a good, trustworthy person, and a patriotic American, which is a more important point to make. McCain sang "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" to the tune of the Barbara Ann. He voted to oppose making MLK Day a federal holiday. He elevated Sarah-fucking-Palin, who solidified Conservative stupidity. The list goes on. Can't say I give a shit he's dead.
I go along with the criticisms, but what Republican politician ever rebuked members of his audience at a rally in favor of the opposition candidate? Compare that to what we have now. The general sentiment there is something we could do with a lot more of.
If that's what counts as the height of moral integrity within the Republican party, than it only goes to show how utterly vile the party is, and how often McCain went along with it.
Srap TasmanerAugust 26, 2018 at 08:01#2080290 likes
I half wondered if Sacha actually hired a professional chef to make the dishes genuinely delicious (to get the best reaction of course). In which case, we can definitely forgive him for being fooled as a food critic and feel sorry for him in that regard (for-shame Sacha!)
But considering that this person appeared to genuinely believe that he was eating [s]free range[/s] cage-raised grain-fed Chinese dissident, we might want to consider whether or not this person is in the food-critic business for all the right reasons...
Bravo I say! Cannot wait for tonight's episode!
VagabondSpectreAugust 27, 2018 at 02:32#2082880 likes
Tonight's episode was painfully hilarious as always, but also noticeably more dark and surreal than the others.
No Palin interview yet though. There's rumors that it wont air for legal reasons, but Sacha might just be saving it for the finale if it's really something spectacular.
It was so odd. He almost seemed hypnotized the way he went along with it all:
(To paraphrase) "Here's the flesh of a political prisoner who was tortured to death. Like a bite?"
"Yes, please."
:brow:
Why would anyone want Trump at their funeral? He'd find a way to make it about him. Or the media would. It would be impossible to have anything truly dignified going on with Trump present. Not to mention the fact they despised each other.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 27, 2018 at 14:23#2084320 likes
Trump does not deserve to be anywhere near John McCain in the living or the dead.
There are only a handful of people that have ever dedicated their lives to public service like John McCain did and his words and guidance will live on long after we have said our final goodbyes.
This memorial is a place very near our ranch and yesterday, all flags were flying at half staff. It was bone chilling to see in addition to the Nation's flag, our State flag, there was one more: [url=https://postimages.org/]
VagabondSpectreAugust 27, 2018 at 17:46#2084980 likes
Reply to Baden Just some Democrat ex-congressman (Barney Frank). Although, there's a bonus segment at the end where he gives O.J Simpson a pretty hard time ("Stab! Stab! Stab! Chuckle...").
The major segment of the episode is a colonel Erran Morrad operation where he takes three average conservatives and trains them in [s]mossad[/s] not mossad anti-terror techniques that one of them will get to use in the field!
And just like that, as quickly as it appeared, it's gone. The serpents can rest easy once more...
I wan't to know why Showtime axed it, whether Sacha's fame made a subsequent season impossible to film (plausible) or whether Showtime wanted to hedge themselves against one of the most controversial shows in T.V history (more plausible).
In the land of gorgons, holding a mirror amounts to assault with a deadly weapon.
VagabondSpectreAugust 27, 2018 at 17:58#2085070 likes
Reply to Baden Yea I just heard... I'm disappointed that we won't get more but what we've already been given has been amazing.
We can only pray that the Palin interview will somehow leak!
Respect for your dignified memorial to someone you genuinely admired, Tiff.
Baden, I know, you know how very much John McCain means to me and my state and I sincerely Thank you for your respect of my endearment to the man, the legend, the people folklore is made up of or was....
But I have to be honest here: this, although following the guidelines, made me physically ill to read.
:vomit:
Let alone embrace :broken:
On behalf of the American Legion's two million wartime veterans, I strongly urge you to make an appropriate presidential proclamation noting Senator McCain's death and legacy of service to our nation, and that our nation's flag be half-staffed throughout his internment," Denise Rohan, the national commander of the American Legion, said in a statement.
You're welcome. I do remember your fondness for JMC over the years, so I know it's a sad time for you. And I hope you'll try not to let the actions of anyone else, official or not, upset you too much. Though I can fully understand why they might.
Reply to VagabondSpectre Was Cohen pretending to be a war vet or something in the Palin interview? I wonder if perhaps McCain was brought up and they decided it best not to air it right now?
VagabondSpectreAugust 27, 2018 at 22:50#2085910 likes
Was Cohen pretending to be a war vet or something in the Palin interview?
Sacha didn't exactly pretend to be a war vet, it was just Palin's natural assumption...
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The United Parcel service! :lol:
According to one source the interview just may not have been good enough (perhaps for the reason you mentioned). Although, I can only assume that after what Palin did to McCain's presidential campaign he would probably want to see her roasted perhaps more than the rest of us!
Christ, so what happened to the Resurgence of the Right thread?
You weren't imagining it missing because I wasn't able to find it for a while either. :monkey:
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 28, 2018 at 13:35#2087140 likes
Okay this might be a stretch but I will give it a go.
Can you name this song based on the lyrics alone without help from the Interwebs
"Is there a cure among us?
From this processed sanity?
I weaken with each voice that sings
In this world of purchase
I'm gonna buy back memories
To awaken some old qualities..."
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 29, 2018 at 00:02#2087970 likes
There should be a law that says if you are accused and found guilty by a Federal Judge for profiling, but before sentencing, you are pardoned by the President or God himself, you CANNOT run for any state or federal elected office. :angry: Pretty flipping logical if you ask me. :shade:
Might you know whom I am speaking of? :rage:
Arpaio was convicted in July 2017 of criminal contempt of court for ignoring a judge’s order to stop detaining people because he merely suspected them of being undocumented.
Convicted! God this frustrates the duck outta me! :rage:
Was just tripping on the title of Ann Coulter’s new book: Resistance is Futile! How the Trump-hating left lost its collective mind.
In popular culture, ‘Resistance is futile’ is a reference to a science fictional race of beings with a collective or hive mind. Mindless drones controlled by a fascist leader, basically. So far so good. But she’s wrong to suggest that Trump-hating lead to the enlightenment. For one thing, it started a couple of centuries ago.
I think it was antifa that got them triggered. Maybe it's that they feel more threatened by the left then they feel protected by Trump. Damn funny anyhow.
Absolutely agree. I'm glad he got the beaten in the primary.
By the way has anyone tried writing their posts using Google keyboard's (or some other) voice recognition tool. I just used it to write this post because I'm on the phone and swiping is a pain. Getting nearly 100% accuracy here. :up:
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 30, 2018 at 16:32#2092990 likes
Ik denk dat het was antifa dat heb ze geactiveerd. Misschien is het dat ze zich meer bedreigd voelen door de linker dan voelen ze zich beschermd door Trump. Damn grappig hoe dan ook.
? ArguingWAristotleTiff
Absoluut mee eens. Ik ben blij dat hij kreeg de geslagen in de primaire.
Door de manier heeft iemand geprobeerd het schrijven van hun berichten met behulp van Google toetsenbord (of een andere) spraakherkenning faciliteit. Ik gebruikte het om dit bericht te schrijven, want ik ben op de telefoon en vegen is een pijn. Getting bijna 100% nauwkeurigheid hier.
Waya, this I got from the 'mouths of babes'. When my youngest (19 as of yesterday :party: ) came home from his first semester of college (3 months out of the direct advice of Mom) he imparted some wisdom on me, that made me not just think but rethink everything I had ever taught him about respect.
I said you always respect your elders (especially in your family, love them or hate them), those who wear a uniform which includes all uniforms, (not just the first responders but those who are janitors, those who are in housekeeping, those who clear your table after a fine dinner out) and those who hold a higher position than you, that you wish to learn from.
I was speechless the first time I tried to lay that same 'Mom's idea of respect' on him and he kicked back spoken softly but firmly: "Courtesy is given, respect is earned." I almost gave myself whiplash as I was driving and I said "What?" He said "Mom, courtesy should always be given but respect? Respect is earned." My knee jerk reaction and response was "No son. Some respect is undeserved but still issued." to which he disagreed.
Though it is a mantra that I struggle with for myself, I respect him for the mantra that he has formed for himself to follow. It seems to factor out a bit too much emotional attachment that I was raised to respect but he has in turn earned my respect and I have been surprised at how many people older than me agree with his mantra.
As an international criminal mastermind it pays for me to know the law
So what would it cost me for you to look at a 17 sentence "Discussion" for grammatical errors? :eyes:
Or
What about smurfing you into a 'backpocket' version of your Awesomeness? :starstruck:
Oooooo An Awesome App!!!! :100:
Hurry!!! Someone trademark it now!!!
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 31, 2018 at 19:56#2095120 likes
Kindergarteners across the country wait with bated breath...
He might want to start with our current Seniors in High School and work his way back to kindergarten because there are a BUNCH of Americans that know so much less that what Michael seems to possess.
However, I am not sure how much he is getting paid but I am sure everyone has a price. No?
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 31, 2018 at 19:59#2095140 likes
So what would it cost me for you to look at a 17 sentence "Discussion" for grammatical errors? :eyes:
And no, @Sapientia. Although you pride yourself in paying attention to grammar, I simply could not absorb all of your red ink that would outweigh the black ink of my original. :smirk:
I did think of you though. You have a way of sneaking into peoples hearts.
ArguingWAristotleTiffAugust 31, 2018 at 20:06#2095170 likes
@Michael
Oh and I should be honest here in telling you that I asked @Paul to look at a writing of mine that I love and gosh, my Mom made a color copy, framed it and is on her home office wall along with pictures of the kids and grands. :heart: :hearts:
But I did not get the same response from Paul, in fact I had to ask him what he thought after he read it, as I was looking for a critique to find a better flow and well... :meh:
Paul said he couldn't even finish reading it because in doing so, was making his eyes bleed! :scream:
I mean a critique please but damn that was a rough report and I think of Paul every time I see it hanging in my Mom's office. :chin:
VagabondSpectreAugust 31, 2018 at 23:50#2095680 likes
I realize there are some convoluted "scientific" reasons that suggest it might be the case, but philosophically it's just a flashed up version of turtles all the way down (or a self-caused god) given that if we could prove we are simulated were then left to answer the original questions of existence as they pertain to the reality we're simulated within.
Is it simulations all the way up? Seems absurd to me...
Elon Musk, the well known savant, suggests we should pay it forward by simulating as many universes of our own as we can lest our creators think better of it (which seems even more absurd)...
I know but it is the reality of the current state of the USA. We literally removed "Civics" classes as well as "Home Economics" and "Shop" and "Music" classes from many schools to be able to better "teach" the students. The testing that grades the schools became more important to teach to, than the students lifelong needs themselves.
To improve testing scores they came for the "elective" classes and one of the most important classes we ever take and that is "recess".
They....We....eliminated what could not be tested, such as the impact of recess on small group communication and our ability to compete on a friendly level with fellow classmates, not all of whom we got along with. Or those classes we deemed not worthy of testing, the trivial things like how to sew a button on, how to balance a checkbook, how to manage a budget, how to fry an egg or how to file taxes and why. Shop class taught me how to use a wood lathe, a belt sander, a drill press, how to rewire a lamp and how to balance a table with two legs uneven. Music class? It's where I learned everything about life, happiness, sadness and how to breathe properly. I learned that in singing, much like in life, the trained ear that is listening will understand why some words' ending letter are left unsung yet somehow heard.
So yeah, I know you were joshin' but if you ever want to 'teach abroad' we have a spot in our teaching community for you as well.
Just don't get your hopes up for an "Awesome App tdk" for we all know there is only one who is "Awesome"!
The changes do sound retrograde, which doesn't surprise considering who is currently in charge, although it seems education has, for a long time, been a bigger problem in America than in many other major democracies regardless of administration.
So yeah, I know you were joshin' but if you ever want to 'teach abroad' we have a spot in our teaching community for you as well.
Been there, done that (including some high school but predominantly university). Figured out after a while that it's not for me. Appreciate the offer though. :up:
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 01, 2018 at 17:42#2097110 likes
Been there, done that (including some high school but predominantly university). Figured out after a while that it's not for me. Appreciate the offer though. :up:
Yes, but isn't what is better for the greater good, more important than personal gain? :razz:
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 02, 2018 at 13:04#2098220 likes
How absolutely comfortable and Honored Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump appeared at John McCain's service at the National Cathedral. As the daughter of one of our nations leaders, I imagine a lot was running through Ivanka's head, as she listened to the daughter of another one of our nations' leaders eulogize her own Father.
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 02, 2018 at 13:24#2098240 likes
Wimpering in mental distress :rofl:
I just got my mind around the concept of "infinity" only to find out yesterday that there is more than one "infinity" out there! :scream: I began to run until I heard the word "perfect" and I saw a little hole that maybe I could get in on. :chin:
SO there is an infinite' number' within infinity but now you are telling me there is a "perfect" infinity, one that I have not already grasped? Do go on... :monkey:
Anyone who thinks they've got their head around all this infinity stuff should be locked up in Hilbert's hotel and not let out until they've spent a finite amount of time in every room.
You sound a bit unhinged when you make statements like "marriage is for children and serial killers". A free rhetorical tip: don't go off the deep end too often.
If Agustino were to catch wind of this, he'd blow a gasket.
(I'm not saying I'm going to set the President of the United States on fire during his visit to Ireland, of course. That would be menacing and probably constitute an inappropriate welcome.)
Reply to Posty McPostface :sparkle: Happiest birthday! :sparkle: Sending infinite peace, wisdom, and happiness your way. Should be there next Tuesday according to the UPS tracking info. Hope it’s your size.
(Woulda said so sooner, but some wiseguy moved The Shitebox. :rofl: )
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 07, 2018 at 22:20#2110670 likes
Can you name the song that contains the lyrics below without the use of the Internet?
Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide no escape from reality
Open your eyes look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy
Deleted UserSeptember 08, 2018 at 03:58#2111170 likes
My brains.... :fire: :fire: :fire: They are burning up.
Why'd you dump the owl, artist-formerly-known-as-Sapientia?
Well, you know how certain celebrities are so well known that they need only their first [i]name[/I] to be recognised, like Mariah, Whitney and Kylie...?
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 08, 2018 at 16:43#2112310 likes
Well, you know how certain celebrities are so well known that they need only their first name to be recognised, like Mariah, Whitney and Kylie...?
My guess is that you are in the Internet Witness Protection Program and they instructed you to change your name to a letter so those looking for you would have a harder time finding you. :eyes:
Maybe it is YOU "S" that @Michael is assigned to.... :chin:
So, California passes SB100, mandating that we go 100% renewable by 2045.
I think a career in the solar industry wouldn't be a bad idea for me. Thinking about going to some occupational school and do the solar voltaic occupation.
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 11, 2018 at 12:56#2117930 likes
I think a career in the solar industry wouldn't be a bad idea for me. Thinking about going to some occupational school and do the solar voltaic occupation.
My Brohemuth in law made good change with Solar City but would have had to move back to Cali because AZ stopped their 14k reimbursement for the panels. Alas he had fallen in love with a blonde bombshell who happens to also be a Doc. Not a Doc that @Hanover would ever consider to be anything more than VooDoo Doc but what does Hanover know?
StreetlightSeptember 12, 2018 at 01:59#2119030 likes
Nietzsche was severely mistaken when he said, "that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger" which romanticizes all forms of hardship, including sexual assault, PTSD, etc.
AkanthinosSeptember 13, 2018 at 04:29#2121080 likes
Nietzsche was often wrong, especially when he said that there is no creatures more pathetic than a short woman. I think he put it "a short man remains a man nevertheless, a short women is less than nothing".
On another note, anyone else notice that they arent always notified when they get a reply in a thread?
Not a Doc that Hanover would ever consider to be anything more than VooDoo Doc but what does Hanover know?
It's a travesty that chiropractors are referred to as doctors. It really is. The educational requirements for entry in chiropractic programs is ridiculously low and their holding themselves out as providers of general care (as many do) is a public health issue. Some people see their chiropractors for annual check ups like the chiropractic has any real understanding of body chemistry or of actual disease.
It's a travesty that chiropractors are referred to as doctors. It really is. The educational requirements for entry in chiropractic programs is ridiculously low and their holding themselves out as providers of general care (as many do) is a public health issue. Some people see their chiropractors for annual check ups like the chiropractic has any real understanding of body chemistry or of actual disease.
I learned recently that the Queen had a homeopathy doctor. Crazy.
Hm, we're hardly at a page a week now. At this rate, we'll never make it to the 1000. And by "never", I mean it'll take roughly another 3 and a half years.
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 15, 2018 at 14:55#2126200 likes
Reply to Baden
:lol: great image! Can we have the Admiral pop up randomly and float around the screen? Or subliminally flash on and off? Or made part of the logo?
Anyone have any good references on poetry books akin to the following: https://www.amazon.com/Poetic-Meter-Form-Paul-Fussell/dp/0075536064
I'm looking to hone my formal skills and knowledge in poetry. I've written a lot on my own and have a decent "feel" for it, but I don't have that formal background. So the stodgier, drier, and tediously detailed -- the better. :D
See, this is why the ShoutBox should be updated on the main page: Our most productive poster Posty McPostface announced his birthday and nobody almost noticed it. Terrible.
An even more belated happy birthday on your nativity.
Does @ Reply to schopenhauer1 celebrate his nativity, or does he go into mourning? Throw a hissy fit? What?
See, this is why the ShoutBox should be updated on the main page: Our most productive poster Posty McPostface announced his birthday and nobody almost noticed it.
Your conclusion rests on a false premise and thus is to be ignored.
I bet having the off-topic stuff on page two might possibly help with donations. Who wants to give cash to a Philosophical site with topics like “Dangers of vaping: overrated?” “What’s your favorite TV talent show?” and “Is Trump combing over His ear-hair?” Besides me, not many! :lol:
Also, the editor tab on top of the draft page has the “@“ symbol, which when inserted will autofill the names, if you type in the first letters. Very handy. :up:
See, this is why the ShoutBox should be updated on the main page: Our most productive poster Posty McPostface announced his birthday and nobody almost noticed it. Terrible.
An even more belated happy birthday on your nativity.
Whereof one cannot eat as salad, thereof one must make pasta source.
— Tomatogenstein
Which is ridiculous. Has the man never heard of chutney?
Whatever floats your boat.
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 18, 2018 at 14:37#2132620 likes
Purely hypothetical question here: if you could have a Nano chip placed in your body that would cure whatever disease you encountered in life but would not stop or stall the fundamental aging process, would you chose to have one?
Tiff, it seems like you're asking something analagous to: Do I want a thousand dollars plus nothing, or do I want just nothing. Obviously, I'll take the former. What's the dilemma here?
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 19, 2018 at 02:32#2134530 likes
The downside of your choice to take the Nano chip to keep your body free of disease but does not affect the aging process is what happens when your children decide to not take the Nano chip or when those your age decide to not opt in.
The older I get, the more commonality I have with close friends but the harder it seems to make new friends. So if those around me chose to opt out, I would have to endure the loss of those while I remain disease free but quite possibly lonely.
I think the fundamental need to be with others we love and who love us outweighs the desire to live much beyond those around us. There is a natural order to life and death which I think needs to be respected in order to keep the balance in check.
Thoughts?
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 19, 2018 at 02:34#2134540 likes
Because there is no stopping the aging process. The Nano chip only cures diseases.
Do you still want to take the chip?
Maybe I've misunderstood your question. Does this chip also stop me from dying from age-related issues like organ failure? So immortality but without eternal youth like Tithonus from Greek mythology?
All sightSeptember 19, 2018 at 06:50#2135140 likes
Maybe I've misunderstood your question. Does this chip also stop me from dying from age-related issues like organ failure? So immortality but without eternal youth like Tithonus from Greek mythology?
Yes! Exactly!
Are you taking the Nano chip?
We do offer organic Hummus and Pita bread if you want the alternate menu choice
I failed to tell you that your response made me lol. :lol:
:grin:
About getting a chip implant... imo, I don’t trust the general medical industry and pharmaceutical phactory any further than I can throw it. If vitamins, herbs, exercise, and natural foods and therapies don’t do it, then I’ll mostly pass. Except for emergencies and such... Cutting down on sugar and refined carbs might be the healthiest thing I’ve ever done. Less acidic food equals less corrosion/inflammation/infection equals less disease. YMMV.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I agree with you when you say that I feel a stronger bond with my old friends, as I age, and also that it is harder to make new friends again.
Even so, under the assumption that I'm the only person that happens to get the nano chip and therefore the people I'm most close with will die first, I am inclined right now to say I'd do it.
On purely selfish terms -- of course I'm attached to life. And I am a curious sort of person -- and not just about pleasures, but also pains.
On the middle -- I have lived through lonely stretches and I am the sort of person that no matter what I am rarely bored (except at work). But when left to my own devices, regardless of who appreciates whatever I happen to do, I am pretty much always able to find something I want to do.
On selfless terms -- If I could choose it I would prefer it that my parents, siblings, and people who loved me died first. I know I would feel sadness at their parting. I know that I would feel a deep loneliness. But I know I am the sort of person who can stand that. I'd prefer to be there for them because I know I can rather than they there for me -- because I don't know if they really can do that.
VagabondSpectreSeptember 20, 2018 at 19:36#2138300 likes
It's been a long and tiresome road...
The president's future does not well-bode...
America isn't so keen,
Now that the world has seen,
That Trump's penis looks like Toad:
There's a gun pointed to your head and nuclear war could break out any second now and we're in a driverless bus going down a steep hill and we're all going to die!
Facebook failing to protect moderators from mental trauma, lawsuit claims
Contractors ‘irreparably traumatized’ by having to witness child abuse, rape, torture, suicide and murder, says former employee
I wonder how traumatized our moderators are. Joking aside, the internet is festering with that crap, and my endless gratitude at the people keeping the webs clean.
Reply to Posty McPostface On the pain scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the pain of cleaning up after Donald Trump, I would guess our moderators are suffering at level 1 or 2.
ArguingWAristotleTiffSeptember 25, 2018 at 15:12#2150370 likes
This is a floppy OP with no interesting philosophical question. It may as well be "Hey guys, some dumb people believe in spooky stuff! Are you dumb too?"
NOTICE: We're continuing to get false positives in the spam filter. I just cleared three. If your post or
OP disappears and you have no idea why, please feel free to inquire.
ProbablyTrueSeptember 29, 2018 at 00:23#2162620 likes
I thought I was. Seems a bit stronger than what people call a microdose. I knew there was a chance I was going to be getting a little more than I bargained for.
Deleted UserSeptember 29, 2018 at 01:43#2163170 likes
No one cares...
ProbablyTrueSeptember 29, 2018 at 01:56#2163310 likes
Reply to Waya I don't know whether to laugh at this as ironic or not.
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ProbablyTrueSeptember 30, 2018 at 19:41#2168380 likes
Reply to Michael Ouch. I haven't done that in a long time. And yeah, it definitely was because I was on something. My social awareness would come and go. I'd find myself writing long, semi-coherent posts and then deleting thing after realizing I probably should wait till I sobered up.
ProbablyTrueSeptember 30, 2018 at 19:42#2168390 likes
The thread 'do you believe in the actually infinite', which I inadvertently closed, has now been restored, and is in the Metaphysics sub-forum at the link:
Once I tried to be saved and repent of my doubting nature and non-judgementalness. Close, but it didn’t fully take. I ended up “bored again”. You’ve been heeled! :cheer:
StreetlightOctober 02, 2018 at 09:20#2173410 likes
There's a world in which Aristotle, after having written his Physics, instead of writing the Metaphysics (after-Physics) instead wrote a companion volume called the Paraphysics (beside-Physics). I like to imagine that this tiny little lexical change would have altered the incredibly stupid divide instituted ever since between science and philosophy.
ArguingWAristotleTiffOctober 02, 2018 at 14:51#2173840 likes
Okay, I have never been to a Mormon church before this past Saturday and I was SHOCKED. I was shocked that in the Chapel there was not ONE stained glass window, not a single Cross, Jesus was NO WHERE in the Chapel, :gasp: nothing. It was an odd feeling to be in such a HUGE church but not a single picture of God, not a single bar to get down on my knees and pray. I get that they believe in another version of the bible but the Bishop spoke of Adam and Eve, so...….how do they pray and to whom? How can one believe in Adam and Eve and not have God involved?
I am confuzzled and frankly I am not sure I want to figure it all out.
"I don't know, don't really care, let there be songs, to fill the air..." :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower:
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ArguingWAristotleTiffOctober 02, 2018 at 23:32#2175230 likes
LSD an interesting TLA for sure. Even more so because when I was reading your post @ProbablyTrue I was in my home town of Chicago but with a group of people who some of which were Mormon and I was trying to be respectful and I was. BUT I couldn't help but think of two things I had to bite my tongue not to say and that was a twist on the tla that my half sister would use and that was the "LSD Church" which drove my Dad crazy and she would opps correct it to the "Church of LDS".
But my favorite correlation to your tla of LSD back home was when we as teen agers would ask each other if they had ever done "LSD" in downtown Chicago? :rofl: We would say "Absofuckinglutely!" and the adults would look at us....the whole time knowing we were talking about the Lake Shore Drive LSD.
On a side note, the use of LSD in hospice is coming into focus and there are people who believe that Microdosing MDMA would be effective in increasing compassion and human connections. @ProbablyTrue
Any thoughts on those two ideas?
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff The Bible is viewed as supplemental to the Book of Mormon. In a similar manner that some Christians view the Old Testament, so do Mormon's view the Bible to the Book of Mormon -- partially true, but not the living word of God.
You pray to God in a pretty similar manner to any other religion -- out loud in a group, or silently at home, thanking him for this or that and asking him for this or that.
As for the church design -- probably just a choice of aesthetics. The church is more of a meeting place than a glorification of God. The temples they build are much more ornate.
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ArguingWAristotleTiffOctober 03, 2018 at 23:36#2177590 likes
Reply to Moliere The whole thing makes me wonder the true intention behind the church. I am sure it is the born and raised Catholic in me that is making me question it's story, not that the Catholic version is any better or worse. It was just FAR different than I expected and was a bit disappointed but to each their own.
ArguingWAristotleTiffOctober 03, 2018 at 23:37#2177600 likes
Reply to Waya
Noooooooooooo it's not! And I bruised my tail bone on my flights. Now I am carrying around this classy pillow to sit on.
:worry:
Deleted UserOctober 03, 2018 at 23:40#2177610 likes
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Heh. Welll... i can't give a favorable review on the true intention. I know there are people in it that are good people. And at this point in history, though it is a relatively young church, it's hard to say that anyone in high positions are ill-intentioned either.
But yeah. It's not a very ceremonial church -- though the temples are high in ceremony and grandeur.
Having grown up that way, and gone to many other religious services I tend to think of it being basically a conservative protestant church, with a few extras.
That's probably the nicest review I can give. lol.
StreetlightOctober 05, 2018 at 11:58#2181070 likes
Mark Twain, on 'The Awful German Language':
"It is not well to dwell too much on the separable verbs. One is sure to lose his temper early; and if he sticks to the subject, and will not be warned, it will at last either soften his brain or petrify it. Personal pronouns and adjectives are a fruitful nuisance in this language, and should have been left out. For instance, the same sound, sie, means you, and it means she, and it means her, and it means it, and it means they, and it means them. Think of the ragged poverty of a language which has to make one word do the work of six -- and a poor little weak thing of only three letters at that. But mainly, think of the exasperation of never knowing which of these meanings the speaker is trying to convey. This explains why, whenever a person says sie to me, I generally try to kill him, if a stranger".
https://www.cs.utah.edu/~gback/awfgrmlg.html
The whole essay is just a bag of gems like this. Helps explain why reading Heidegger can be so insufferable.
StreetlightOctober 05, 2018 at 12:29#2181100 likes
http://www.laboriacuboniks.net/
VagabondSpectreOctober 05, 2018 at 20:00#2181480 likes
And here I thought I was just a bigot! (been using a language app to learn some German).
On a serious note, I wonder what kind of superiorities, if any, exists in the english language.
It's not the most spoken language (almost is) but pound for pound it seems to get the most done. It also seems to be an excellent language for the expression of singular or particular sentiments (many words with many connotations; many syntactical avenues). Perhaps any linguists or polyglots could weigh in and reveal to me why my fondness for english isn't merely due to the circumstances of my birth. (I speak french and smatterings of a few other languages).
Putting myself in the shoes of a French or Spanish or German writer/philosopher, I would be tempted to write in english because it seems to get the most circulation, but also because I see it as a more versatile clay. Am I wrong?
I'm guessing the prowess of english has something to do with the fact that it has had the most affluent upbringing (widely seeded, and bolstered, by the British empire and the industrial revolution, especially during times of rising literacy, and then again by the U.S and the spread of its technology). It has accumulated so much that we can probably say more english words have fallen out of common use than exist in common use.
What other contenders are there for the title of "Greatest Living Language"?
Here's an article showing that you can't put all your trust in the dictionary. I bring this up because some users here try to prove a point using only a dictionary.
Microdosing MDMA would be effective in increasing compassion and human connections.
@ProbablyTrue
Any thoughts on those two ideas?
I've never taken MDMA, but from the people I know who have taken it they would say that's true--at least temporarily. A coworker of mine took MDMA and had what he considers a life changing experience. He is a much nicer person overall than he used to be. I've also heard that the FDA is encouraging trials using MDMA for chronic depression, so that's an exciting prospect.
As for LSD and hospice, I think we've probably heard the same things. I guess it can sometimes change the perspective of those who are terminally ill to the point that they don't fear dying anymore. From my extremely limited experience, I can say that it places you in the moment in a very clear way. Although I didn't take enough to completely kill my own meta-narrative, it was as close to pure experience as I've ever been. It makes little things in life far more interesting, and when you view things from outside the 'how does this help me survive' paradigm, it can make our dreams and fears seem kind of silly.
ProbablyTrueOctober 06, 2018 at 19:57#2183740 likes
I've dropped acid twice and it was an amazing experience both times.
VagabondSpectreOctober 07, 2018 at 08:47#2184560 likes
I'm probably never going to do acid. I've got too much floating around up there that is already shoddily organized.
I don't know if rattling the old cranium would be good for me...
Though I must say I'm tempted. The lore pointing toward its capacity for "breakthroughs" is something that arouses me deeply.
ArguingWAristotleTiffOctober 07, 2018 at 13:18#2184710 likes
One of the silver linings in the passing of a parent is to be around family members who knew my Dad, before he was my Dad. :wink: We had a LOT of photos to go through and identify with our family historian, my Uncle and oh my, the stories that got us as a family to where we are today? Oooo spicy!
I have a few and maybe others members have pictures or stories they may like to share. :halo:
My Great Grand Father, Lorenzo C., age 18, fresh off the boat from Italy. The man with him was probably a local "mafioso" who liked tall kids. A short time later he met and married Severina Serafina Pucci, my Great Grand Mother. [url=https://postimages.org/]
StreetlightOctober 08, 2018 at 07:29#2187490 likes
Reply to Purple Pond Heh, this was the very first thing they taught us in undergrad linguistics: the dictionary is descriptive and not prescriptive: it tells you how words are used, not how they should be used. I remember being somewhat surprised at the time, but I've so thoroughly absorbed that lesson I frequently forget that its not necessarily common knowledge. But yes. Anyone who uses the dictionary to make a normative point doesn't understand what a dictionary does.
I'm probably never going to do acid. I've got too much floating around up there that is already shoddily organized.
I don't know if rattling the old cranium would be good for me...
Though I must say I'm tempted. The lore pointing toward its capacity for "breakthroughs" is something that arouses me deeply.
To be honest I didn't have any "breakthroughs" or epiphany or eureka moments. When I sobered up I quickly realized every sort of wild idea I had was stupid.
Praxis: "Hey, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice how bigoted that sounded."
Frank: "No problem. I knew you weren't a scumbag!"
ArguingWAristotleTiffOctober 09, 2018 at 13:12#2191050 likes
@praxis@frank
Hey! What the hay? :brow:
No one says a thing about the history of my familoso yet you argue like two of my own Italian Uncles. :roll:
Can we have a little more love and a little less hate? :heart:
Maybe we can break bread over some homemade pasta and vino?
Thoughts?
Nothing much. Same as usual. Just looking for stimulus to do anything. I need a lot of stimulation to get me going. How about you? You've been quiet recently. I wish I had that urge to create, as all I do on these forums is remunerate and ponder over whether I'd let Wittgenstein do me in the bumhole.
Nothing much. Same as usual. Just looking for stimulus to do anything. I need a lot of stimulation to get me going. How about you? You've been quiet recently. I wish I had that urge to create, as all I do on these forums is remunerate and ponder over whether I'd let Wittgenstein do me in the bumhole.
Yeah? Looks like you're starting lots of threads as usual. More interesting than half the cadre around here; at least you've got questions, rather than answers no one has asked for. That ol' stagnation though, is a bitch. I've been mostly forgoing philosophy and looking into a more mystic approach. To each their own.
I've been quiet because it's probably best for me. I may or may not make some noise when the time is ripe. Just dropped in randomly.
I don't know; what does creation mean to you? It's a little tough, because it's easy for me answer that question musically; so I'd be interested to know what creation means to you specifically. I'd assume it would be something different than what it is to me.
I don't know; what does creation mean to you? It's a little tough, because it's easy for me answer that question musically; so I'd be interested to know what creation means to you specifically. I'd assume it would be something different than what it is to me.
Yes. Creation for me is the birth of something with significance. Lasting significance is an ideal. To produce something of lasting significance I think it would be required that the thing created be... I don't entirely know now.
This is great. If anyone watches The Good Place, they actually have a real life philosopher helping out with crafting the scenes. It just so happens to be Todd May, who has written heaps on postsstructuralism, and recently a bunch of pop-philosophy books. So cool.
I started to learn to draw on Sunday. It's been 5 days and I'm still shit. It's infuriating. How can copying someone else's lines be so damn difficult?
Deleted UserOctober 21, 2018 at 03:07#2216460 likes
"As twentieth-century philosopher Georg Simmel wrote, “money by its very nature becomes the most perfect representative of a cognitive tendency in modern sciences as a whole: the reduction of qualitative determinations to quantitative ones.”"
I think the cat is alive just gummin along :flower:
The cat is still smiling.
ArguingWAristotleTiffOctober 28, 2018 at 21:54#2230770 likes
I drove by the Synagogue near me on the way to the store and there was a police presence but even more noticeable, beyond the flashing lights was an overflowing building with people as far out as the grass lawn in the parking lot. I wanted to stop and express my condolences but I didn't wish to intrude and be rude. I encourage people to say anything, even if you don't have words, say THAT, because to say nothing is painful for the grieving.
*I think I just contradicted myself.
I think I'm going to take up MMA. There's this place down from my house that offers lessons and I'm already a member, but I only take the fitness classes. My concern is that I might hurt someone. I have a spider monkey like ferocity that is hard to harness once released.
A real question, though. For those who've competitively grappled, is it required that you always wear a condom?
Speaking of 60%. There's a 60% chance of rain tomorrow where I live, but a 70% chance of rain at 3pm tomorrow. :confused: But Google said so, so mathematics must be wrong.
Speaking of 60%. There's a 60% chance of rain tomorrow where I live, but a 70% chance of rain at 3pm tomorrow. :confused: But Google said so, so mathematics must be wrong.
It's basic maths. If there's a 50% chance of it raining at 5 and a 70% chance of it raining at 6 then the average chance of it raining at 5 or 6 is 60%.
It says chance not "average" chance. And the averages for the twenty four hours don't make sixty anyway, so that couldn't be the way they're calculating it. And, well, if it was that simple, even a Hanover could have worked it out, and that would be no fun.
It says chance not "average" chance. And the averages for the twenty four hours don't make sixty anyway, so that couldn't be the way they're calculating it.
The problem here is that you're thinking like a single pecker, whereas us double peckers have a better maths than the rest of you.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 04, 2018 at 17:32#2247150 likes
Reply to Michael "Republicans tended to prefer fantasizing about sex outside of marriage: “things like infidelity, orgies and partner swapping, from 70s-style ‘key parties’ to modern-day forms of swinging,” Lehmiller wrote. Republicans also reported more voyeuristic fantasies like going to a strip club or watching one’s partner have sex with another person."
Alright, who swiped my diary? :angry: AND had the audacity to redact the most important part of my fantasies involving two firefighters? :rage:
Who? Hmm? :chin:
I am a Literature Junior Freshman who regrets reading Literature at university. I am much more interested in Ethics. I think Politics, which I presume is a field within Ethics, is a waste of time. Large parts of philosophy, art and STEM seem useless, such as much of metaphysics, physics, epistemology, engineering, architecture, other fields like botany and various forms of visual art, such as sculpture and painting. The only theory that really has any value is Ethics. In this way, I think the novel can do Ethics through a prose narrative and I suppose that is the only value it really holds. There is no point in grasping desperately at the truth behind what exists, but the truth behind what one should do. Similarly, any attempt at Aesthetics is useless without Politics, which informs society and thus the legislation and subsidisation of public art and natural preservation. The answer is clear - we must do philosophy until a science of Ethics has been realised, through both fiction and non-
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 05, 2018 at 12:30#2249360 likes
Reply to räthsel Welcome to The Philosophy Forum!
We are glad you are here~ :flower:
I just thought of someone who is very talented at drawing people: hyena in petticoat's daughter is AMAZING at her drawing!
But the expert in Anime I believe is @Wosret!
Missing me some Wos~ :heart:
To my American friends (everyone else sucks), please remember that the voting day for all Republican votes is today, and voting for Democrats is tomorrow.
To my American friends (everyone else sucks), please remember that the voting day for all Republican votes is today, and voting for Democrats is tomorrow.
Kind of a pointless announcement as I doubt any Democrat would be friends with you. They have standards.
any attempt at Aesthetics is useless without Politics, which informs society and thus the legislation and subsidisation of public art and natural preservation.
Indeed.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 06, 2018 at 23:00#2255560 likes
To my American friends (everyone else sucks), please remember that the voting day for all Republican votes is today, and voting for Democrats is tomorrow.
I passed your word onto Chicago and they assure me they have voted more than once, just to be sure ya' know :rofl:
He's not a conservative, he's just a very naughty boy.
That's why we like him! :clap:
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 07, 2018 at 12:16#2256560 likes
I have a confession to make for my little female Rottie. At the tender age of 1.5 yrs old, she has taken to flirting with the male dogs in a less than ladylike manner. I apologize to any other K-9s that she may have accosted/loved without their prior consent. If there is anything I can do to make amends please let me know. I do not wish to have my naughty puppy cause a #metoo movement among the dogs of the world.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 07, 2018 at 21:57#2257690 likes
Reply to frank I hope your dogs idea of sniffin doesn't produce puppies. :wink: I mean, yeah she doesn't have the order of who humps whom right but I imagine there is a dog willing to show her the ropes.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 09, 2018 at 14:42#2262780 likes
@Michael
hyena in petticoats' off springs' eye drawings. I got permission from @hyena in petticoat to post the drawings here as I suggested it might help you with yours. :wink:
In all truthfulness, the kids work is AMAZING and I will show it off any chance I get! :party:
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Reply to Baden Yes, that's me pissing up a storm. Had me a belly full of tea and Michael had a powerful thirst, so win win.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 13, 2018 at 13:56#2271570 likes
The Camp Fire is/was moving a Football Field a second....a second....
Although we have endured a house fire and had to rebuild our lives from the ground up which was tragic, we were blessed to be the ONLY ones having a house fire at the time. We were not one of tens of thousands, our insurance representatives and claims advisor were only working on OUR house fire and another one across town. Dear God the personal attention we received...I just...feel very blessed for my family and my heart breaks for those who are enduring Mother Natures' Wrath right now~ :broken:
Huh. How did I not know that Mary Shelley was Mary Wollstonecraft's daughter.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 16, 2018 at 12:54#2283140 likes
Reply to Michael Who is Mary Shelley? Wait maybe I don't want to know.
Because your admission to thinking SE Cupp is hot still keeps me awake at night :yikes:
Ah...I had to walk out of the movie Bambi because of the hunters killing the deer so Frankenstein was certainly out of my fear league. :scream:
Because your admission to thinking SE Cupp is hot still keeps me awake at night — ArguingWAristotleTiff Quoting Michael
Who?
Anyway, that was ?Maw, not me.
Whew~ That is right. See how easily I am scared? :eyes:
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 16, 2018 at 14:42#2283800 likes
@Maw I am not sure if you know who "Kennedy" (Lisa) is on Fox but I think she runs stiff competition for SE. Give her a fair look and tell me what you think:
Kennedy
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If you go to KFC late right before closing, they'll give you all their old grilled chicken for free because it's way too dry to sell to actual paying customers.
Just go in and order it like you don't know and when they tell you it's going to be too dry just say you want it anyway and Amman will give it to you for free. Then say "does it come with a biscuit" and sort of smile, and he'll roll his eyes and give you a biscuit too.
Just go in and order it like you don't know and when they tell you it's going to be too dry just say you want it anyway and Amman will give it to you for free.
The same is true of elder prostitutes.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 20, 2018 at 18:35#2296670 likes
:gasp: How dare you talk about @Baden s Mom like that! :monkey:
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 20, 2018 at 19:05#2296790 likes
Another year together, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Hanover humor, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Posty McPostface leading the forum on what our Spirit Animal is for the moment, ever evolving, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @unenlightened for being a wave maker and wind calmer of the forum, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Baden PC bias that changes like the direction of the wind, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Maw to represent the upcoming liberals, be they news anchor or Senator elect, if it's a woman and she is in the news, Maw knows, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @SapientiasLittleHelper observing from above, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @andrewk cleaning up when things get messy, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Waya keeping the midnight oil burning, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @StreetlightX being the softie on occasion, explaining what others cannot see, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Sir2u and the wisdom he imparts, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Benkei to debate the USA laws and keep our moral compasses aligned, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Bitter Crank to guide those in the flock that can stray away, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Mayor of Simpleton for watching over us, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @fdrake for explaining some things we take for granted, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Banno for being the loveable old goat that he is, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @ssu ensures a safe place to question what others assume to know, definitely something to give Thanks for
I could go on and on and on and would still miss yet another friend but alas I must prepare the ranch for the incoming family but I would be amiss to leave out a HUGE Thank you to @jamalrob for keeping our family, our motley crew, our group of misfits but tribe of 'thinkers' together through the years, for without you, there would be no us.
In that spirit, I raise a glass to toast to you my friends the world over, a healthy, happy and peaceful Thanksgiving Gathering~
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Please take your place at the table of 'thinkers'
Dinner, drinks and dancing is free upon submission of your favorite quote
It was done alphabetically. She just spelled “arsehole” wrong.
Now, now. Don't be so bitter. I'm sure you can find something to be thankful for. Maybe Tiff will even offer a pretend apology for her "oversight" to placate you.
Actually it can be. As I understand it, you were the result of malignant pregnancy contracted from a promiscuous brain injured ogre, having emerged the womb a bloody cancerous mess, only to be saved by the vitamin rich feces that chased you down the birth canal..
That's what I understand your birth to have been. I might be wrong. If I got it wrong, my bad.
:blush: Another year of @Michael evolving in my dreams but never straying far from the first photo I ever saw of his Awesomeness :love: , is absolutely, undeniably, forever singed in my brain, definitely something to give Thanks for :sparkle:
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 20, 2018 at 21:07#2297250 likes
Actually it can be. As I understand it, you were the result of malignant pregnancy contracted from a promiscuous brain injured ogre, having emerged the womb a bloody cancerous mess, only to be saved by the vitamin rich feces that chased you down the birth canal..
Keep it up and you are going to be sitting at the kids table... :brow:
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Everything begins in mysticism and ends in politics. Charles Peguy a not too prominent Frenchman said that. For Thanksgiving toasts I will not go for anything too fancy. A Rhine wine, Asti Spumante, A pilsener lager ("Ist das hier ein Lagerbier?" "Ja, das ist ein Lagerbier!") or... rotgut if that's all you got.
Please, don't feel the need to post any pictures, I have a really hard time getting images out of my mind like @Michael. A picture of him, must be ten years ago now, is still active in my brain~
Another year of Maw to represent the upcoming liberals, be they news anchor or Senator elect, if it's a woman and she is in the news, Maw knows, definitely something to give Thanks for
Nice, thanks Tiff
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 27, 2018 at 14:41#2316390 likes
I was wondering...at 2am when all the worlds problems come to my lightly sleeping mind...why do you suppose that we close our eyes when one of our senses is overloaded with pleasure?
I do mean the overwhelming pleasure some people experience during sexual interaction that we often close our eyes during. When we close our eyes are we thinking of nothing or are we thinking of someone or something else?
I do mean the overwhelming pleasure that comes from a food you are tasting that is THAT good, that you close your eyes upon tasting it? Are we concentrating on the texture and the taste that makes us close our eyes?
Same experience can come with an overwhelming smell of Orange Blossoms if your pass in the Citrus Groves just after sunrise and where it is irrigated (heavily flooded green space) and you close your eyes because the smell is intoxicating.
What is it about overwhelming pleasure that makes us close our eyes?
Or is this something that only happens to me?
What causes that reaction in you?
For me there is one other place that I can think of and that is at a Smoker Barbeque restaurant where you walk in and you can practically eat the air it is so thick with heavenly smells.
Woo-hoo, settlement oncoming for the particulate damage done to the house I reside in that was located nearby the Woolsey fires. Wonder how much we can milk out of this fire damage. Already got two letters from two law offices that reached out to us to file for a settlement with our mortgage company.
@Hanover, and advice on how to maximize the most out of this circumstances?
Reply to Wallows Are they suggesting offering money in addition to the property loss, like punitive damages or something? Obviously you want to make an argument that maximizes the value of your property prior to the fire,, including all your personal possessions that were lost. As I recall, your basement was packed with sacks of gold prior to the fire and the original 10th Century artwork you lost s irreplaceable.
Are they suggesting offering money in addition to the property loss, like punitive damages or something?
Nothing I know about at the moment. All that is stated is that they are defining "property damage" as "contamination from the fire" near us. My mother informed me that they're going to send an inspector to asses the situation, so I can update then if you're willing to lend your advice.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Thank you! Hope to be of good use here. If not...well philosophy is not practical, at least as a college degree. Now, philosophy itself? Might be a different story, depending on how we define "philosophy", how we define "practical", and what the meaning of the word "is" is.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 28, 2018 at 13:15#2320360 likes
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 28, 2018 at 13:34#2320400 likes
@Benkei
How is the family? I see you reading the boards but not a whole lot of words coming out of your keyboard. Maybe it is the new company with the ladies that you are forming. What was the business model again?
Oh and what was the dudes name in PF that had a moveable wall in his office that lead to his home in back? The ladies were always "hot" in temperature so they had to wear these very itty bitty outfits at his office....what was his name.....
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff The little bastard is still keeping me up at night after 8 months. There's a severe choking hazard for him because of it. So everyone's fine really.
I don't know what the name of the porn boss is any more...
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 30, 2018 at 13:53#2324530 likes
The little bastard is still keeping me up at night after 8 months. There's a severe choking hazard for him because of it. So everyone's fine really.
Dude.....have you got a full nights sleep without lil' Benkei in the house? Maybe two nights in a row when your brother cares for the kids? Okay maybe your Mum? :heart:
In all seriousness, your mind will stop functioning more without quality sleep, than it already has after having kids. Just speaking from my own experience.
I’m pretty sure it began with S. That’s all I’ve got. Ran a business in South America?
Yes, you have the right dude but what was his name...
I cannot believe after all the drooling of PF members, other than yourself, that NO one remembers his name! There was a line out the door for people, including @Benkei maybe even @Sir2u willing to relocate and go work for the man.
Ooo this bugs me....he looked like Richard Branson.... what was his name....
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 02, 2018 at 15:53#2329080 likes
Well fuck. I might as well finally share my problem with you as I have been dealing with it for over two decades but now it is nearing a changing point.
For the past 6 months, I have been researching, getting opinions, second opinions, third opinions (all of those professional) and the opinions of friends and family as well.
I have to have both my upper jaw and lower jaw set of teeth replaced. Not restored but replaced.
Now I have the fear of dentists like no other, my pain tolerance level is subzero AND it starts weeks before any procedure but I can control that, now, unlike how I couldn't as a child.
I have investigated Mexico's dentistry, a nationwide company "Clear Choice" and a personally owned business of a Doctor (Dr. WinterHoller) who accepts my dental insurance and is 30 minutes from the ranch.
Clear Choice = $57,000
Dr. WinterHoller: $40,000 $20k now and $20k to do my other jaw in two years
Mexico= $12,000
So here is the rub, I am too much of a risk for sedation to try Mexico in addition to the fact that once you have work done in Mexico, a USA Doc won't touch you as there is too much liability.
I cannot have Opiates of any kind and Clear Choice will bring in another anesthesiologist for an additional $1k to keep me comfortable during the 8 hr procedure. It's way too much in cost.
So that leaves Dr. WinterHoller and the $20k I have to come up with to have the surgery on my lower jaw. That $20k provides me with lower permanent teeth and an upper denture until I can pay the other $20k for my upper jaw.
Bless my parents for they are gifting me $5k to have this work done and they are both retired and lost $10k last week just in their IRA's so I really don't want to even accept the $5k but my reg Doc is worried about my ability to eat and the risk of having an infection make it into my blood stream via my mouth.
Additionally we are in a holding pattern on loans until we sell the ranch and the only credit I will take out and have taken out are cosigns of college loans for my son.
It's really a no brainer when I have to choose between a years tuition for college for my son and my mouth. I can wait and get him through school, it's a promise I have to him and myself.
The Doctors say at least I am a candidate for this procedure and as I reenter the work force with a new career underway, I am going to be talking a lot and need to project the confidence I have.
Through the tears I have asked the Doctors a fundamental, close to my heart question and they have chuckled a little which makes me sadder and that question is: do you offer smiling lessons? It has been so long since I have smiled that my facial muscles don't even know how to do it anymore.
They all assure me that once I have a full set of teeth again, smiling will come back to feeling normal.
And I get through all of that and STILL cannot even come close to funding such an endeavor, at least not before my son is out of school or we have sold the ranch.
Needless to say this is causing a riff with myself and NicK as he is up for Mexico but we cannot cover it here, yet. They haven't said as such but my parents would not gift me a dime for this to be done in Mexico because they want me alive and it is too complicated and too risky to have done down there.
Additionally, my medicine is here in AZ not in Mexico and I am not going to try to take my medicine with me INTO another country. Fer fucks sake....let's keep our heads about this....
Fuck, fuck, fuckity, fuck fuck
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 02, 2018 at 15:56#2329090 likes
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff May I ask why you need your teeth replaced? Medical reasons I assume? It might sound like a horrible idea, but if it really is that unaffordable won’t dentures suffice? I wouldn’t recommend Mexico if it means no home dentist will provide future care. It’ll probably end up costing more in the long run.
And regarding dentures, what about half and half if that’s an option? Implants for the front teeth and dentures for the back? I guess it could even be temporary whilst you save money to get the rest done.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 03, 2018 at 12:49#2331730 likes
May I ask why you need your teeth replaced? Medical reasons I assume? It might sound like a horrible idea, but if it really is that unaffordable won’t dentures suffice? I wouldn’t recommend Mexico if it means no home dentist will provide future care. It’ll probably end up costing more in the long run.
Medical reasons are why they need to be replaced and dentures are an option, one that I have looked into and they are covered by my insurance with a cost of $6k but my insurance will only pay that once. So if I am to use it for a 'hold over' option until I can get the funds for the implants, that 6k would be wasted once I can get the implants.
Mexico is just not an option and NicK has come to the understanding that this work needs to be done where it is guaranteed and where I can be tended to in the event something were to go wrong.
And regarding dentures, what about half and half if that’s an option? Implants for the front teeth and dentures for the back? I guess it could even be temporary whilst you save money to get the rest done.
On an individual basis the implants are $5k so it wouldn't be cost effective.
This whole thing started because I am back in college with 3 classes left to complete my Associates degree and another 2 yrs for my Bachelors degree. I had been raising the kids for the last 21 yrs and now I am able to focus on myself. Going back to school to get my degree to become a Social Worker is going to allow me to be a bread winner, as well as NicK, who has been the sole bread winner for 22 yrs and begin our retirement savings. I come from a long line of women who return to work after raising their children and provide a comfortable retirement savings, so this path is well blazed for me and I am rested, ready and capable.
But knowing that I am going to be talking for a living factors into this whole surgery and what kind of appliances I can handle in my mouth. Also, I am going to need to be attending a University in a year has just factored into whether or not we sell the ranch.
It's complicated but the hot housing market is cooling and the next housing bust is slated for 2020 so I wanted to be sold by this month, which I started on getting the ranch ready last year and NicK said he wanted to wait until 2019 which was cutting it too close for me. Essentially we needed to sell now and buy in 2020, with a rental in between or risk being stuck here for another 8 yr cycle putting our ranch price back up in 2028. If we stay till then we will see a huge return as our ranch location is protected by endangered species laws so the view will never change and that is an awesome thing.
By 2028, I will be well into my career and the kids will have taken over their loans so things will ease, given good health and life....
So here is NicK's suggestion: we refinance the ranch which will take us from $3k a month to $2,100 a month and use the equity in the ranch to refinance the cost of the whole set being done at once.
Yesterday morning started out with outbursts of stress that suggested suicidal feelings and ended with a possible solution. Will it work? I don't know. Is it an avenue worth exploring? We have to.
Michael, I cannot tell you how much it means to me for you to field some of my most complicated life situations with the grace in which you do.
Thank you for being AWESOME! :100:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 03, 2018 at 13:26#2331810 likes
@Maw
It looks like our settled dispute over what Pizza is better has been challenged by a series of letters and numbers. It looks like an algebra problem which for me, definitely eliminates any competition to ANY food! Well other than Vegemite that @Banno is so fond of!
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Sorry to hear about your teeth. Generally, I wouldn't listen to a Brit when it comes to dental care.
I was talking to some guy the other day and he was going on an and on about the cheap dental care he got in the Ukraine. He said he paid about $1,500 there for what would have been a $20,000 fee here, and the round trip ticket was around $1,200.
My Google search came up with Romania as being a really cheap place to get dental care: http://www.romaniandentaltourism.com/ I dated a Romanian girl once. It didn't end well, so if you go there, don't mention my name.
If you tell me the specifics of the procedure, I'll youtube it and do it for you. No charge. I need someone to learn on.
I got a gold crown on my tooth the other day, but it's silver gold, so it's not as hip as I wish it were. I had to get it repaired because I busted it all to hell chomping on ice.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 04, 2018 at 13:05#2334900 likes
@Hanover Commere so I can thwap you! :brow:
We may have figured out a way to obtain the cash at a lower % interest in a refinance, changing plans on selling the ranch which is okay as I will need to be near the University for my Senior year.
:pray:
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I was for real on the travel for dental care idea. I'd choose a developing eastern European country over Mexico at least. The guy I talked to swears by Ukrainian dental care. He did say you needed to get a good referral due to inconsistencies in care.
It does sounds like you've got a pretty jacked up grill though, so it might be worth doing right and not letting an old world butcher hack away at it. Of course saving a few dimes is always nice, so tough call.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 04, 2018 at 15:24#2335030 likes
How's this for a rollercoaster. Last week my partner received a call for a potential investor for our fintech startup. Yesterday a large competitor unveiled a pilot basically doing 75% of what we patented. So my week was sort of: :party: :scream: :cry:
What causes that reaction in you?
For me there is one other place that I can think of and that is at a Smoker Barbeque restaurant where you walk in and you can practically eat the air it is so thick with heavenly smells.
The sadness I see in the eyes of those who have failed causes me such jubilation. When under stress, I close my eyes tightly and imagine those sullen faces, bringing me to my happy place.
Think I'll play me some red dead 2, south park implied everyone was playing it, and seeing as I'm sheeple I had to fall in line.
I'm only like 30% in but my karma is super high! Of course, of course. The lame thing though, is when it is so close to max, one small indiscretion equals a lot of lost work... so I gotta be like super careful.
Why the subdued response to Atlanta's national soccer championship but such excitement when the World Cup was played? Y'all are a bunch of Anti-Atlantites.
Deleted UserDecember 09, 2018 at 21:26#2353200 likes
To anyone interested, I need someone from a different culture (I'm American) to help with a school assignment today or tomorrow. Kinda a last minute emergency. :fear:
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ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 12, 2018 at 01:44#2361850 likes
I don't know about anybody else but this season feels kinda funny. Not a good funny, more like an uncomfortable, every body is on the edge of change in life right now.
Someone grab my hand and hold on please :pray:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 12, 2018 at 13:58#2363090 likes
Okay, I will just duct tape myself to this tree limb here, seeing as I am wayyyyy out on it with not a single soul to save my day!!! :gasp:
I'll hold your hand (as long as you haven't used it to touch @Hanover recently). :grin:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 12, 2018 at 14:25#2363190 likes
Reply to Baden Thanks for the conditional offer Baden! I will take it!
So now that you are here, not doing much of anything, want to help me untangle these Christmas lights? :cool:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 12, 2018 at 14:29#2363210 likes
This virtually describes the U.K. too, apart from the fact that guns aren’t as readily available and we still have a just about functioning health service.
I don't like hearing my echo. I don't like my authority stolen, nor my way of speaking aped. My father told me that a wise man girdles his tongue, especially on egregious matters... but those are red flags. You don't want a red flag. I promise. Your sense of safety and confidence is a shelter that will not withstand me. Though you wish to take this anything but seriously, you can either laugh or cry... chose correctly.
I'm sure you know just what it is like to be without fear, until we're eye to eye (well, as close as that will be, since you're little), then we'll see. You're withholding of belief is your withholding of the terror that will accompany it in you. Because you are not fearless, but faithless, and a jester, a clown.
I don't want a podcast, clown. You're not helping, and have zero advice for me, or any such way to justify the theft to yourself.
Speaking of Santa, I just booked a trip for me and my boys to go dog sledding in Fairbanks, which is close to the North Pole I think. It should be fun, or just really cold and dark. The northern lights are supposed to be really visible this time of year. New years at the top of the world.
You know what's funny? I realized after writing that that people would likely think by "my father told me" that I meant some voice in my head, but I meant my real biological father told me that the day before...
Maybe I'm a little resentful and bitter. I regret the incendiary remarks, and apologize. I don't want more animosity than is necessary.
Deleted UserDecember 15, 2018 at 04:56#2372140 likes
Seven chakras, nine muses, but fourteen stations of the cross. Wanna make sure that when you're opening them on the left side that they ain't closing on the right...
Though "balance" "the center" "freedom unbinding and awakening" Buddha stuff, is on par as well, though is harder and takes longer than the path of sorrows.
Everyone understands that "now my neck is open wide, begging for a fist around it", means animus possession, and yapping like a Chihauhau so that one gets to a place where they just express everything that they feel, and animus, and anima have different pathologies for handing conflict? Both are lying, but one comforts, and pretends that there is no conflict, and just always tries to completely gloss over all conflict. Whereas animus wishes complete dominance, and resolution by force.
Neither one is any good by themselves, but quite good in unison.
I just flipped out at someone, and am getting tortured about it right now. I smoked some weed last night, and drugs makes me freak out like a maniac in the following day or so. My dad told me it was the drugs, but I did it anyway, last night. Had been clean for a week... another three weeks and this mind fog would clear, and I'd be fully sober...
Someone I didn't expect to come came though, and I didn't want to talk to them, so I freaked out, and was all like "what are you doing here", because I was waiting for like two days to have a good talk with the other person... and then they cried, and left, and I went to try to get them to come back, but they wouldn't so I just go madder, madder than I've been in months, to the point where I just hate myself, and don't wanna be around myself...
I'm never doing those drugs again, this time I promise. I have to listen, and stop.
Started watching that F is for Family, just now, only one episode so far but it is really good. Makes me feel a little more human, lol... I really like that Bill Burr. He's funny as hell. I'm laughing a lot at that show, just because it is definitely relatable when you're a maniac like me.
Deleted UserDecember 16, 2018 at 21:26#2380170 likes
One thing you can thank the Taliban for was their ironclad grip on the production of heroin in Afghanistan prior to the war on terror. Now they grow it to fund their war efforts against American troops in Afghanistan.
Jesus :rage: what the fuck?
Thank you unenlightened for bringing this to my attention. I literally got ill reading the link to the documentation of torture here in our homeland.
It is said that you can tell the measure of a man based upon how he treats the weakest among us and this SCREAMS utter disgrace. :angry:
This needs to stop here, this needs to stop now. :strong:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 18, 2018 at 20:54#2385980 likes
unenlightenedDecember 19, 2018 at 12:04#2387310 likes
Thanks for that Suze, I know we are friends, and God knows there are plenty of disgraceful goings on here as well. But this is the pits. I hope there are enough people like you to make it stop.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 19, 2018 at 17:42#2388080 likes
You and your lovely wife Melania are, in my humble opinion, doing so many wonderful things to make my life and other 'forgotten' Americans, lives better that I wanted to write you and Thank you for your service and your families service to our country.
I must tell you that I have learned of a policy in caring for our disabled children, that in my eyes, amounts to torture. To use an electrical prod that carries a current STRONGER than those provided to Police departments across our country and those are used on suspected criminals, NOT on children who have done nothing more than being born with a disability.
Is it approved policy for Police departments to use their stun guns on children? Would you allow anyone to ever have the right to use such a device on Barron? I would never allow someone to use such a barbaric act on someone I love and do not believe it should be available for use on any children.
But, to allow such barbaric treatment, to be used against the most vulnerable in our society, is not only unacceptable but should be illegal. Full stop.
I am writing you, to make sure you are aware of this legal practice and asking you to stop it right here. Stopping it right now. I believe if you are to shine a light on this barbaric treatment to the American public, Americans like myself will stand up against this horrific policy and work with you to stop this treatment in it's tracks.
Someone needs to be held accountable for continuing to allow this treatment and until it has been outlawed, we the American people, will fight for the humane treatment of the weakest among us and I expect you, as my countries Commander in Chief to do the same.
I would like to Thank you in advance for your attention to this horrific policy and although I am not a Kardashian, I am a loving citizen who has a problem that is bigger than myself but not bigger than you.
Please update me on the status of my letters to you so I can follow the progress on ending this outdated practice on disabled children.
Sincerely,
Tiff
Personal name, street address and phone number provided, necessary for submission.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 19, 2018 at 18:20#2388240 likes
Immediate response:
The White House, Washington
December 19, 2018
Thank you for your email. My staff is closely reviewing your correspondence to ensure your views, questions, and concerns are addressed.
As President, I have no higher obligation than maintaining the safety of the American people, especially our Nation’s young people. Following the horrific tragedy that occurred in Parkland, Florida, earlier this year, I took immediate action to secure our schools by establishing the Federal Commission on School Safety (Commission) and directing it to provide a comprehensive set of policy recommendations for keeping our schools safe. Over the past year, the Commission has listened to students and educators, local and State officials, first-responders, and the general public, soliciting input and feedback as it drafted a formal report to the President on school safety.
This afternoon, I hosted a roundtable to mark the public release of the Commission’s report with members of the Commission, State and local law enforcement officials, the families of school shooting victims, and educators.
Thank you again for taking the time to write. Together, we will help ensure all of our Nation’s young people have every opportunity to reach their full potential and achieve their American Dream.
Sincerely,
Donald Trump
unenlightenedDecember 19, 2018 at 18:30#2388290 likes
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 19, 2018 at 23:10#2389040 likes
Is it reasonable to think that a person's actions/lack of action in the journey of losing one parent, might be a pretty strong indicator of how they will handle the process of losing another parent?
You see a blended family can leave you with more than one Dad or Mom and as most of you know I lost my biological Dad this Fall and the process played out, everyone handling death in their own way.
Now, when I consider my position in the family, I am the only one who lives in Arizona with my Mom and Step Dad, as my siblings live in Illinois and Georgia. Do you think for a moment that things will change and it will be more than me here in AZ handling the daily? I am not holding my breath.
However suggesting to my Mother that it will likely play out the same with their passing was not received well and frankly the reality bites but it is what it is. My concern is that my only Uncle in Chicago, has yet to be invited to the Christmas get together for the family in Chicago. Mom says he is a grown man and he will be fine and I am "Mothering" from a distance. I push back with that I love him and want to make sure he knows he is wanted...and here come the tears... Is it really that hard to let go of the past and love the present?
Mom says that I am pushing my siblings away from me by caring about my Uncle to the degree I do and I say that if it was her, my Mom that was being left out I would be just as concerned. To which she went nuclear and said I am talking like my Mother in Law and her obsession with preparing for the end of the world.
Thanks for listening...
unenlightenedDecember 20, 2018 at 12:00#2390400 likes
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Mrs Un and I were looking forward to our first ever Christmas with no commitments, because one daughter is in Aus, and the other is heading out to visit her the day after boxing day. But alas, the latter has taken pity on us and managed to squeeze in a two day visit.
Perhaps uncle is glad to be out of the loop, perhaps you want to push your siblings away ( I certainly push mine, or would if they approached). Families always fray at the edges; siblings gather spouses and offspring and in-laws and sooner or later, the cousins must start to fall off the radar.
So I think you can allow yourself to feel the connections you feel, and if someone wants to call it 'mothering' as if there is something wrong with that, that's their folly. But if the people you feel connected to do not feel connected to each other, that is not a crime, or even an insult to you. Let be, and find another way to express and maintain your connections - families are not just for Christmas.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 20, 2018 at 13:21#2390570 likes
Reply to unenlightened unenlightened, My mentor, my sage, Thank you for your heartfelt thoughts on how to reconcile my heart and mind for they often feel like opposing forces within me.
I am trying to compartmentalize my feelings about my Sister who is not wanting to keep our relationship alive, which is her choice that I need to respect. Her obligation to our remaining family is done and I am working on being okay with her departure. But my brother and I, still have two parents and I guess it is no surprise that I should expect to go to through their aging process alone. But I need to keep reminding myself that it is okay if he doesn't help out as I can't change him but it feels disappointing and makes my heart sink to think that I am the only one going to feel my way through it.
Caring about others, who don't care about or for you is hurtful and I have got to figure out how to stop doing it.
Five days before Christmas and I am trying to figure out how not to care. Something is very fucked up in this world or something is very fucked up in me.
unenlightenedDecember 20, 2018 at 14:59#2391020 likes
Thank you for your email. My staff is closely reviewing your correspondence to ensure your views, questions, and concerns are addressed.
As President, I have no higher obligation than maintaining the safety of the American people, especially our Nation’s young people. Following the horrific tragedy that occurred in Parkland, Florida, earlier this year, I took immediate action to secure our schools by establishing the Federal Commission on School Safety (Commission) and directing it to provide a comprehensive set of policy recommendations for keeping our schools safe. Over the past year, the Commission has listened to students and educators, local and State officials, first-responders, and the general public, soliciting input and feedback as it drafted a formal report to the President on school safety.
This afternoon, I hosted a roundtable to mark the public release of the Commission’s report with members of the Commission, State and local law enforcement officials, the families of school shooting victims, and educators.
Thank you again for taking the time to write. Together, we will help ensure all of our Nation’s young people have every opportunity to reach their full potential and achieve their American Dream.
Sincerely,
Donald Trump
Did you get sent a letter from Donald Trump?
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 21, 2018 at 01:48#2392940 likes
Yes. The above post was his actual response.
Do I believe that it is a personally written response to me only? Not a chance. Do I think it is being read? Absolutely. Every letter, gift, note sent to the President is logged, recorded and preserved for as long as I have been alive
I will mail the same letter to The White House, once a week till it changes. If by chance I see no progress in outlawing this practice, I will inindate my local Senator and Congress lady with the same letter, until something changes and I can be a persistent bitch when I chose to be and this is worthy of my time.
Noble DustDecember 21, 2018 at 06:48#2393390 likes
Don't let my knowing the name of that opening move fool you; I'm a terrible chess player. I know the name of the move because I used to make it a lot (gotta get them powerful rooks in play right?). I was wrong. Apparently it's universally agreed upon as terrible!
To update you on my day, I returned home and let Fred inside and he had shit caked on his tail and reeked to high hell. I put on rubber gloves, put him in the tub and scrubbed him down, and then scrubbed out the tub. Then I told @Michael King to his mama. Then I wrote this. Now we're current.
To update you on my day, I returned home and let Fred inside and he had shit caked on his tail and reeked to high hell.
What did you expect to come home to after fulfilling your selfish need, to travel to the North end of the Earth, to hand deliver your present list to Santa Claus himself? :roll:
And a question that occupies my mind is: Did you tell him you celebrate Hanukkah and already received your presents? Hmmmm?
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff I've not yet been to Alaska. I'm going over New Year's. Santa knows I don't celebrate Xmas. He comes to me for financing.
I just went with my buddy, so we got 4 slices between us; 3 regular, and he got a sausage slice. Wanted to get squares too, but they were out. I'm a regular slice litmus test guy; gotta compare it to everything else. Haven't been to Emily's, but Lucali's, yeah. 2 hour wait there, which was a lot, but it was great. I'd honestly just as well go to Di Fara, though. Next on our bucket list is Lombardi's; I have low expectations, but gotta do it.
I think I'll send a picture of my foot to my brother while I wait for my son to bring home the Chinese food. Anybody got any ideas for later tonight?
Use the Chinese food to make a giant map of China. Easy with noodles. Harder with rice. (And tell your brother there's no way I'm posting bail for him until he tells me where you guys put my hamster).
Is this foot selfie thing of yours going to become an annual event? :worry: I am pretty sure the other foot person had shoes that were made for walking. :zip:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 24, 2018 at 15:18#2401750 likes
And we are cooking today! Whose in?
We need to wash, peel and grate 10lbs of potatoes, peel, slice and dice 8 onions, cook and crumble 8 lbs of bacon and mix it all together in a sour cream, butter, egg and flour batter.
It's called Kugeli and it is a family recipe that goes back 5 generations to the farms where Christmas dinner was special because of the bits of bacon in the already grown tired of harvest eating was a treat.
In addition to what is in the Kugeli, you serve it with a side of what else? Sour cream, sautéed onions and bacon.
Here is the grind: on a keto friendly eating plan the only things you can have are the toppings minus the onions. So we are going to literally grate our knuckles making this because in the end we cannot even eat this lusciousness! :flower:
I ask you: Where is the love? :broken:
It's called Kugeli and it is a family recipe that goes back 5 generations to the farms where Christmas dinner was special because of the bits of bacon in the already grown tired of harvest eating was a treat.
I eat kugel, not kugeli, a far more delicious Jewish food. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugel
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 24, 2018 at 17:18#2402250 likes
Reply to Hanover First let me say I had to cover my eyes and peek through my fingers to make sure I wasn't stumbling onto a foot selfie! :monkey:
Onto the important stuff:
It reads as though the Jewish are less than shall we say 'creative'? I mean to go and take Italy's prize invention of the pasta noodle and then mash it up with some other stuff and call it YOURS? :scream:
That seems a little out of the spirit of the season.
So Kugeli, the RIGHT version comes down from my 100% Lithuanian Great, Great, Great Grandmother~ Bless her heart~ :pray: :heart: :flower:
Now, are you going to analyze or help? :roll:
The position of 'just sitting there looking pretty' is already filled with @Baden and the bartending is being handled by @Michael.
Know how to work a potato peeler? :brow:
Hey, so, who wants to help me escape academia this Christmas by suggesting like literally anything else I could do with my life with a resume that consists of nothing but meaningless conference presentations on stuff no real person gives a shit about?
The struggle is real. I'm too much of a pussy to want to major in philosophy. Student debt scares the crap outta me. Anyway, post something philosophical and I'll be sure to reply. :)
Know how to make rugelach or mondelbrot? I've got a hankering with all this ethnic food talk.
I make a mean Kolachky (family recipe from my Bohemian roots) which is a proper way to make a "rugelach". Your choice of Poppy seed, Apricot, Prune or Cheese. :yum:
Hanover, are you sure that I am not Jewish cause @Benkei says I cannot just wish to be Jewish because I can cook their food, love Jewish sense of humor and the idea that Jewish men don't like to see their women in pain? Are you kidding me? No one consented me to being Baptized Catholic but that is for another day seeing as today is Christmas.
Back to the food dude!
It seems that the Jewish have stolen another famous food and renamed it their own! Those poor Italians! Yes, I know how to make Almond Biscotti half dipped in chocolate that are so hard we would turn your modelbrot into crumbs on the matt any day of the week!
Is there anything that you can think of that is only "Jewish"?
Or is this world like one big Taco Bell where they have the same five ingredients just made into different shapes with different combinations?
I don't mind the commonality because frankly I am a kick ass cook/chef/baker and am willing to throw down with you on anything but grits and shell fish. I mean I could learn how to prepare them, improve on them but I personally don't eat them and rarely do I cook something I cannot taste.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 25, 2018 at 14:54#2403860 likes
I say: Deck the halls with boughs of holly. Have fun, have sex, don´t go near a church at midnight as they are too close to graveyards, and celebrate Nativity of a new cycle instead of the death of this year.
I had to relocate a part of your reply DiegoT to respect the spirit of the thread you wrote it in but I simply could not pass up the humor it struck in me if we were to just change the order of the words contained within the quote.
I am trying to behave, really. :halo:
That does look delicious, but doesn't look like rugelach. Rugelach is rolled and often has nuts and cinnamon. Your kolachky reminds me more of hamantaschen, the traditional treat on Purim. Hamantaschen dough is shortbread cookie-like, and it's hard to tell if that's the same on your cheap knock-off kolachky though.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 25, 2018 at 15:06#2403900 likes
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff Yes.
All sorts of theories why they're triangular. Haman was the villian in the Book of Esther, read every Purim, and the treat is named after him.
Halva, now there's a middle eastern treat I've not had in a while. Where do you shop, the Jewish butcher?
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 25, 2018 at 15:46#2403980 likes
All sorts of theories why they're triangular. Haman was the villian in the Book of Esther, read every Purim, and the treat is named after him.
Halva, now there's a middle eastern treat I've not had in a while. Where do you shop, the Jewish butcher?
OMG those are awesome!!!!!
Halva has been a Christmas tradition longer than I have been alive. There are a couple local delis that carry it but one little place in particular is way too close to my parents place that makes it in house. My favorite is the Marble Halva cut into chunks, dipped in chocolate. OMG Hanover, this food porn has got to stop!!!!!!
~fanning herself~ :fire:
Reply to Noble Dust Next time be sure to get the square slice, it's even better than the normal slice. Just mindblowingly good. Check out Emily's and try the burger - probably the best burger in the city.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 26, 2018 at 15:55#2406050 likes
So the whole family went over hill and dale to get to Granny's house, played a few games, made Granny sit while we kids got the food on the table. I carved the Turkey, told Granny to get out of the kitchen at least 10 times, had human goalies at the doorway to keep her out and back in her chair with a glass of wine in her hand. The moment has almost arrived, everyone is sitting in the dining room except myself and the bird on a platter when I hear a shatter of glass in the dining room. :gasp:
As a former server and restaurant manager, you never want to hear that sound but when you do all kinds of scenes flash through your mind as to who was hurt, customer or staff, was the meal ruined and uggg you just cringe at the sound. Thank GOD I had already put down the electric carving knives! :up:
In the seconds after I am waiting for the fallout and my youngest indian, now 19, comes around the kitchen corner with blood running down his hand :scream: Something is lacerated for sure! Of course I loudly, calmly order Granny, my Mother into the kitchen NOW! Many of you know Mom is a retired Trauma Level 1 nurse (the worst of the worst injuries) who moved onto Hospice care but trauma is in her blood. Do you think that Granny/Mom is actually listening to me ask her in the kitchen quickly which I had been keeping her out of all day?
Well, maybe, but she wasn't coming as fast as I wanted her to.
Now I realize my indian was going to be okay but I was trying really hard not to freak out and I made it though that initial shock. Granny/Mom said he needed stiches because he sliced his hand in the webbing between the thumb and first finger and the location was just too tough to heal without so off Urgent Care we went.
We actually we tried 8 different Urgent Cares, not one was open so the only option was to go to the non critical side of the Emergency Room. Five hours and three stiches later and we were traveling back over hill and ran across dale to get back to the ranch.
Bottom line is? It could have been much worse and could have gone as planned but there is a saying out there that offers the wisdom gained last night which is:
"Life happens while we are busy making plans". @Hanover my dear, my buddy, my friend, might you have any leftovers? :pray:
Oh and as a side note, his University requires that all students carry health insurance and if families do not have it, like ours, you have to purchase it through the school. A $1,200 a year policy that collected no co-pay or deductible? Flipping screaming deal if the Insurance actually pays the bill to satisfaction, we shall see.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 26, 2018 at 15:56#2406060 likes
Next time be sure to get the square slice, it's even better than the normal slice.
In my opinion, non stuffed pizza pie should be cut in squares because the whole pizza gets eaten that way. :100: There are crust people and non crust people and if you pay attention to what is being thrown away, perfectly GOOD pizza unable to fulfill their ultimate pizza destiny, winds up with the empty beer bottles in the trash, instead of nourishing someone's' soul.
THAT is blasphemy! :shade:
Maybe it was a trend that changed things because before pizza delivery was a "thing" all the pizzas in Chicago were cut in squares. When I moved out to Arizona, I really thought these people were half baked (lololol) in cutting their pizzas into triangles. :eyes:
Also crust is important because it's used to hold the entire pizza. Assuming the pizza is good (otherwise, why bother eating it), then the crust should be eaten as well - only children don't eat the crust.
Wanna get my old job back as a cleaning guy at the cinemas. Was such a fun job. Everyone is young there, the managers are understanding, you get to chat with co-workers all the time. Turnover is pretty high, so you get to see new faces and people all the time and hear their stories. Never feels boring and like a routine due to the excitement and stimulation in the work environment.
Memories really do romanticize everything.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 28, 2018 at 13:52#2412840 likes
We really got away with only being in a couple of pictures before our ER visit. I am in black on the left end of the couch, sitting next to my Aunt in Law and Father in Law.
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I hope to be smiling brightly in next years photo! :pray:
Gather round everyone, for I will share with you a true tale of my Hanoverian Christmas.
On Christmas day all the restaurants were closed in my fair hamlet except for Waffle House, which never closes. My two boys and I went in for a traditional Christmas day meal of eggs, toast, waffles and other assorted breakfast treats when in pops some carolers, guitar and all, singing the American classic Feliz Navidad. The diners sang along joyously, and once the serenade ended, our entertainers became street hustlers, asking each diner fairly aggressively to donate a few dollars to the orphanage advertised on their laminated card. I kindly declined several times as the young guitarist persisted until the manager (and I knew him to be in management because of his tie) began escorting the trio out. As they were being escorted out, a young woman, maybe 19 or 20 years old made a final attempt at my table to ask for a donation for the needy (who I suspected was her). She asked very kindly, and so when she was met with my single word bark of "GO!" she seemed a bit stunned. Was that fear I saw on her face? I think it was. Ah yes, Christmas cheer abounds.
My oldest son couldn't stop laughing as he most certainly inherited the family sense of humor. My youngest was a bit appalled, remarking I treated her like a dog. A gentle and naive soul I suppose. A Google search determined that our band on minstrels were actually part of a cult that goes around hustling for money in this way, so I did feel vindicated reading that and confirming that I didn't just hiss and spit at an actual volunteer seeking aid for the less fortunate.
As I thought back on that moment, it really pissed me off, people using the giving season and pictures of those in need to hustle for money and a previously unscathed naive soul now awoken.
Reply to ArguingWAristotleTiff lol you look great. I don't know what I thought you looked like, but I always assumed you had dark black hair for whatever reason.
This quote definitely served it's purpose in 2018 but we might want to soften it up for 2019.
Might I suggest to respond with: "Everyone is on their own journey, I wish you well in yours but alas you are not part of mine. May Karma bless you~ :sparkle:
:point: Or we could go with a good ole Chicago defense and advise your children
"Never, I don't care what they say to you, never talk to someone who approaches you while you are walking." Which doesn't really work when you are in a private establishment but if you were still applying Chicago logic, you would already have your back to the wall with a clear line out the "EXIT" door. :up:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 29, 2018 at 15:07#2415970 likes
@Maw Thank you! Maybe you assumed the dark hair because I call my children "Indians" :wink:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 29, 2018 at 15:09#2415990 likes
@Michael Your memory is likely a mix of a picture with me in the forest by a tree and one from way back that had me sitting on a doggie bed, covered with dogs and a deep red wall behind me with curly auburn hair that was fuzzy.
Between your language/grammar skills and my almost photographic memory, we could make one hell of a crime fighting duo! :strong:
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 29, 2018 at 15:15#2416000 likes
I don't think there's anything worse than the utter debauchery of preying on sympathy. That even made me feel uncomfertable.
Me too. There are a group of hustlers that work a set of corners in our part of the suburbs and we have watched what happens when we give money. One friend gave a kid who was holding a sign that said he needed shoes and his shoes looked bad. She gave him $25 and said go get yourself some good shoes. She went on her way, shopping at the mall and was returning home when she saw the same sign being held by a different kid but the same crappy shoes and she confronted him (best she could at the stop light) and the kid hustled over to the other kid that she had originally gave money to and that ended our giving to anyone hustling on street corners.
Sad way to happen but there has to be a better way to give. My feeling is that those who truly in need are not going to be on the street corner for they have too much pride to ask. Those are the people I seek out to help out when I can.
Making a major investment in buy a quality keyboard and quality headphones to begin learning how to play the piano. Looking forward to accessing more of the inner me.
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 30, 2018 at 14:15#2418170 likes
Making a major investment in buy a quality keyboard and quality headphones to begin learning how to play the piano. Looking forward to accessing more of the inner me.
Woo Hoo! Music is AWESOME for the soul!
My youngest indian asked for a quality keyboard this year and he got one. It is soo cool in that there is a hold on the key tones and they are touch sensitive in that you have to hit the low notes harder and the higher notes softer. It is awesome and there is one song I would like to learn on it.
An easy song of course: My Way by Frank Sinatra as it is helping me through my Step Dad's choice to refuse any further medical care. My Way embodies his persona and his inner soul. :sparkle:
Reply to StreetlightX Well, I hope you're having a better night than me. My plans were ruined by pulling a muscle in my back on Saturday and now I can barely walk – and when I do I'm in a lot of pain. :sad:
This is where I was in Fairbanks. -25 F (-32 C). That's a dog sled.
Your efforts at composition and manipulation of avaliable light sources have appropriately paid off in expressing the impression there was snow and some other random stuff where you were at. :up:
OMG it is so pretty! It must be so quiet when you go outside. I love looking down on Chicago from the 44th floor or higher and the snow makes the whole city look so virginal and delicate~ :heart:
ArguingWAristotleTiffJanuary 05, 2019 at 14:57#2433150 likes
This is where I was in Fairbanks. -25 F (-32 C). That's a dog sled.
You know Hanover, earlier this week the weather man was saying that Phoenix was colder than Fairbanks. :scream:
Tell me something, what are you searching the end of the Earth for? :chin:
And I realize I am repeating myself but Arizona is a year round destination resort state. Last summer you escaped the heat of Atlanta in Arizona and now you are escaping the cold of Atlanta for Alaska.
Are you seeing a trend here? :smirk:
They seem to either be flying or gliding. You tell me?
Well they fly better than Quail and yes I think they are flying which involves gliding when you are using wind currents to land so yes, they are flying. Interesting though in that a Hawk can ride the wind currents for hours without having to flap their wings but a chicken? They do seem to put a lot of effort into it but I am not sure they are getting that much out of it.
ArguingWAristotleTiffJanuary 05, 2019 at 15:51#2433270 likes
I don't know. It seems like one can't say that chickens can fly like a bird. But then how else can you put the fact that chickens can flap their wings and generate lift by not calling it "flying"?
It didn't. We did. Chickens were domesticated and bred for being fat. They became too relatively heavy for their wings to carry them more than very short distances. Their wild progenitor, the red junglefowl, doesn't fly much either as it doesn't need to, but it can fly a lot better than a chicken.
Yes, I see now. I wonder if there was a period in time when chickens could fly or we're they like the evolutionary equivalent of what mules are to horses.
Well, it's not really an either/or is it? As they became more domesticated the junglefowl became progressively less adept at flying due to the pressures of artificial selection, and at some point commonly known as "chickens". And there was no third-party species involved as there was with mules and horses (i.e donkeys).
Your efforts at composition and manipulation of avaliable light sources have appropriately paid off in expressing the impression there was snow and some other random stuff where you were at. :up:
Reply to Baden You're not a chicken historian, so you don't know. Penguins don't fly and they were never domesticated. You of all people should understand that nature produces useless appendages.
My son had two birds that didn't fly, but that might have been because of the cage, but who am I to say?
i don't think my post is going through onto the forum? the text is a light grey and there isn't any conversation on it thought it's been up for 3 hours
Reply to ????????????? I posted a question in the Metaphysics section about 4 hours ago (thought Phil. of Mind may have been a better category, in hindsight)
Penguins don't fly and they were never domesticated. You of all people should understand that nature produces useless appendages.
I don't understand the connection between these two statements. A penguin's "wings" are actually flippers and are used for swimming rather than flying, so they're not useless.
SittinWSocratesTiffJanuary 06, 2019 at 14:06#2436030 likes
Alright....who hijacked my account? My password was no longer valid but when I signed up under this nickname, I couldn't use my original email address as it showed "already in use".
Help? :gasp:
SittinWSocratesTiffJanuary 06, 2019 at 14:21#2436130 likes
Deep cleansing breaths..... let me just say that I have a Rottie in heat, who is already wearing a C-Collar to keep her from licking her one paw and two in-tact males that are driving this whole ranch crazy. This is day 14, no one is sleeping, no one is bonding and no one has an ounce of sanity left.
Who wants a gig watching an adorable Rottie so I can sleep?
I am willing to pay whatever it takes.... :100:
SittinWSocratesTiffJanuary 06, 2019 at 14:39#2436220 likes
I was thinking late last night, early this am....it's all a blur.... anyway...
Before the Internet, before Google, who in your life (micro and macro) were what you considered a "solid" source to get the most accurate information from?
For me, my micro source was and would likely still be my Mom, even at age 48.
For me, my macro source was much more complex but without tapping into the news, it would have been my Grampa and now.... my best male friend who was responsible for my meeting my husband 29 years ago this Oct.
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First: Buck Sexton
Second: Tucker Carlson
Hmmmm…. what do you put Qualia on?
That's some shit-eating grin. I have a feeling Tucker has been stealing peanuts from the monkey crap again. ;)
Swooning for Tucker~ :hearts:
I was trying to come at that same point from a different angle. :D
What the heck. At least we both like Shep:
Glenn Beck is my fave Foxy Fox lady. Love those love handles. Swooning for Glen. :hearts:
Some kind of early prototype humanoid robot CNN are calling "Brian Stelter". Needs a lot of work.
But thats not how you spell John Dickerson...
Although you are right, Coopers face is weirdly perfectly symmetrical.
Sometimes I do silly things like transcribe the ramblings of lunatics just to see what it looks like. Here are the results of my most recent such endeavor: (it's pretty fun to read along with his incoherent rant).
[hide] [i]"I-I-I-t's Brian Stelter - there it is - oh my God.
I mean, that is a hard... Movie... Cover....
Seriously! He is scarier looking than "It" the clown...
I mean, would you let your children anywhere near that... ... Psychopath?
I mean that is a "psy--cho--path" right there,
I mean LOOK at him!
GOD![/i]
*whimper*
[i]I mean, i-i-it just, it cries out: Danger! Danger! Alert! Alert! I am a scumbag! I am filth! I am your enemy!
Ah-ee-I would literally... Not be able to finish my dinner... If some, if somebody walked over and talked to me that looked like these two guys...
And I'm sorry... They not just lying anti-American SCUMBAGS! That wanna RUN US ALL IN TO THE GROUND! CAUSE THEY'RE LITTLE MEN! THEY'RE PIECES OF CRAP! THEY THINK THEY'RE BETTER THAN EVERYBODY!
That's what it's about! It's the SPIRIT OF EVIIIIL!!! AND WE MUST BREAK THEM!!![/i]
*sigh of exasperation*
I've tried to do joke photos to look disingenuous, and I can make any face I want to, but I can't pull it off. Cause the eyes... Chico... It's always in the eyes...
[b]*Sigh*
*Groan*
*Sigh*[/b]
[i]Oh my gosh. Oh... Hell on earth...
He wants to run your life. He wants to control every aspect of your life because he knows he is a cowardly, degenerate, sack of anti-human trash...
I pledge before my heavenly father that I-I-I-I-I-buh-eh-uh-buh-will resist them wuh-uh-eh-uh-eh-every way that I can. These people are the literal--demon--spawn--of--the pit--of hell.
Look at him! And you know what? He is better than you if you keep letting him run your life.
He runs your kids, he runs the schools, he runs thew banks; THIS GUY!
THIS SPIRIT! THIS SMILING LEERING DEVIL! THAT THINKS--YOU--CAN'T--SEE--WHAT--HE--IS!
HE IS YOUR E-N-E-M-Y! PERIOD: All the narcissistic, devil worshiping, FILTH![/i]
*Sigh of exhaustion*
[i]I see you enemy... I SEE YOU ENEMY! -- ENEMY! -- ENEMY! -- YOU ARE MY -- ENEMY! AND I SWEAR TOTAL RESISTANCE TO YOU WITH EVERYTHING I'VE GOT!!!
Disingenuous. Fake! FALSE!!!
BROKE-BACK!
TWISTED!
A DEFILER! A BETRAYER!
A BACK-STABBER... A DEVIL!!![/i]
*visibly and audibly overcome with extreme anger*
YOU WILL PAY... YEA YOU THINK I DON'T SEE YOUR FACE, SCUM? YOU DON'T THINK I DON'T SEE YOU? STELTER? I SEE YOU, YOU UNDERSTAND ME? I KNOW WHAT YOU THINK OF ME AND MY FAMILY. *snorts* I SEE YOU RIGHT BACK! YOU UNDERSTAND THAT? DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT STELTER?
[b]*guttural throat sounds*
*guttural "STELTER..."*
*snort*[/b]
YOU WILL FALL!
YOU WILL NOT BRING HUMANITY DOWN!
GOD IS GOING TO destroy you!
Get him off the screen...
[b]*sigh*
*cough*
*whimper*[/b]
[i]God they're so evil. JUST PLEASE GOD FREE US FROM THEM!
They're drunk on our children's blood for god' sake.[/i]
*sigh*
-FIN
[/hide]
He's certainly an interesting performance artist... Brain damaging in text too it seems...
A baseball bat. And then you take that baseball bat, and you swing it as hard as you can, aiming for Tucker Carlson's head.
Oh, wow. You done the whole thing! That's brilliant. :lol:
Quoting VagabondSpectre
That bit's hilarious to watch, and I replayed it multiple times. :rofl:
A slow motion transcription of Alex Jones' head exploding. Nice. :up:
Definitely an Iron Maiden fan. :D
Interesting when he says "Brokeback". The ol' homophobia slips out amongst the demon ranting.
[s]Hew's going to be in the next season of Star Trek Discovery?[/s]
A series of his own! Amazing!
Glenn Beck makes one handsome woman.
Stay way from mah woman 'son. :eyes: :)
https://www.fetzer-franklin-fund.org/media/space-time-quantum-non-locality-roger-penrose-video/
I know.... "I shouldn't do that" but wtf? It's how I feel!
That's how a mom should feel. :up: :strong:
All's right with your world Tiff.
You meant "chick", right? 'cause "chic" is something else.
I really need a pocket size version of you for so many aspects of my life, including but not limited to, being a grammar coach for me. :up:
I am so glad I have you to check my feelings against because well....because.
I believe you un, but the tears form as I agree with you. :cry:
So what else do you need a pocket-sized version of me for?
Your quick wit and your ability to think one or two thoughts past where the rest of the group stops. That would be an amazing tool to learn from you but is very situational in nature and not written down ahead of time.
OMG Hanoverrrrrrr……. :fear:
What am I going to do with the rest of my life????
Good start. He needs to be taken off YouTube too.
Good evening everyone.
:lol:
;)
Hey, welcome! :cool:
Welcome back gorgeous!
From a journalistic perspective, Sacha really is somewhat answering the question "Who is America?
Delish' Doughnut approves!
It's now your turn to become a burden to your children.
Hey you!
I’m sorry dear but it does look like you were doing fine without me here. I’m sure you are keeping everyone entertained.
More like "good to see you again!".
Hmmm... I am not sure I want to do that quite yet or more specifically, I am not sure I know how to do that.
Of course! I was just teasing!
:grin: Great to see you here!!
Yo, my mans just took me to Scarr's tonight. Best slice in NYC. Hands down.
+36.7R in 2016. +0.9R today. That's a hell of a swing. What's the prediction for November?
Edit: although 8,000 outstanding ballots. The R currently has a lead of 1,800.
You can still do that if you do some rigorous exercise.
I got a PM from TClark asking how to get in touch with TimeLine and I know he was touched by her and looking for her. After answering him, I dropped him a PM a month later and he has not logged in to answer. :sad:
TClark had a lovely side to him that brought to light some of the beauty around us that we might have missed and was also very open to any kind of personal conversation via PM's.
I hope he finds his way back~ :flower:
An 18" pizza pie and not gain weight through rigorous exercise? Any idea how many days of that "rigorous exercise" it is going to take to work off that pie?
Or.....how many hours with the right exercise partner? :sweat:
Well, according to this there's 2,525 in an 18" pizza. A man needs 2,500 calories a day, so the amount of excess in the pizza depends on how much you else you've eaten. A healthy diet has 400-600-600 for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, with the rest on snacks and drinks, so let's say that we need to burn off 1,925 calories (which works for both men and women). As a rough estimate you burn 100 calories per mile of running, so that's 19 miles. So 3 miles of running a day for a week?
Or you can swim to burn 300–444 calories per half hour, which is two and a half hours to burn it all.
For men, 4.2 calories per minute, so 7.6 hours. For women it's 3.1 calories per minute, so 10.3 hours.
Okay, pizza and then sex in the pool should do it? :smirk:
now your asking the big questions!
That all depends on where you are from. Above, you will hear a few East coasters that believe you should be able to pick up a piece of pizza pie. Where I am from, you need a fork and knife for pizza pie. :grin:
No, no, no, @Maw was talking about the pizza being 18" not anything else!
Pizza pie has a pie like crust in that it goes up the side of the pan and you start layering with an 16" thin sausage patty (it keeps the crust from getting soggy) tomato sauce, Mozzarella slices of cheese, a layer of Pepperoni disks, a layer of shredded Mozzarella cheese and topped off with a slightly inner circle of tomato sauce. It takes about 45 min to cook (everything is precooked before being assembled) and it is flipping amazing. :up:
I don't think I could manage eating the whole thing without feeling gravely ill, even after a crazy exercise.
It's just pizza. Americans are weird and call it "pizza pie".
Oh dear lord :roll:
That's a walking pizza pie!
That's what you think of as deep? This is what I think of as deep:
Whereas Tiff's is a mountain.
my favorite store-bought pizza :)
People who haven't been raised right have had the audacity to call it lasagna!
I left before they came to :up:
:yum:
[url=https://postimages.org/]
It's a total pain in the ass but it gets around not posting an image.
Whoa! I did it! Thank you @Michael
Making America Great Again! :clap:
Uh, I mean rather....
WHAT IS A SHOUTBOX!!!!!!??????
America was never great.
Some parts are pretty amazing.
What do you have? A peat bog? :razz:
Kate Beckinsale.
I'll give you that.
Beyonce.
Why not? You stole Santa Lucia from the Italians for some devious pagan purpose -- why didn't you steal their pizza as well? And don't localize it -- nobody wants fish on lefsa.
Select a good quality frozen pizza, put it in the oven, and bake it for 23 minutes at 325ºF. (165ºC). "DiGiorno/Delissio rising dough" is good. ("It's not delivery -- it's Digiorno!") You'll have to air-freight it from New York, probably.
If you should feel obligated to make your own, 3 things:
1. The bread is important: make it from scratch. Add appropriate Italianate spices to bread.
2. A very good spiced tomato sauce is essential. Do they even sell mediocre spiced tomato sauce in Norway?
3. Plentiful mozzarella cheese is crucial, but add some grated romano or parmesan on top
If you are using sausage (and you can, you shall, you must, you will), use good Italian sausages with garlic, fennel, etc. Canadian bacon (or the Danish equivalent); vegetables? a scattering of red or green bell pepper, canned black or green olives, spinach if you must; garlic should be in there someplace... Chicken is too bland to be interesting on pizza. Ditto ground beef. Avoid salmon, whale, octopus, salt cod, reindeer liver, pork guts, members of the cabbage family; most fruits except tomatoes; tofu...
Pizza has been perfected. Don't get creative.
Thanks for the info - I was actually wondering if there was a connection with the TimeLine thing . Hope he comes back, too.
Young girls have picked them, every one.
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the young girls gone?
Gone for husbands, everyone...
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the husbands gone?
Gone for soldiers, everyone...
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the soldiers gone?
Gone to graveyards, everyone...
When will they ever learn?
Where have all the graveyards gone?
Gone to flowers, every one...
When will they ever learn?
Oh, when will they ever learn...
Note: The above technique does not work for images brought up and presented in Google Search. Google provides a link to the site where the image came from. There you can copy the web address.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-45112792
I think they are oppressive and weird, but hijabs are OK as long as they're not forced on the wearer, and they're actually quite practical in hot countries
Lol right? Good God in Heaven :yum:
You are quite welcome. I hope he finds his way back here but I remind myself that everyone is on their journey and it is theirs to choose the path that is right for them, at that moment in their lives. :flower:
Omggggggg! The pizza delivery guy who came to our house was hot and on more than one occasion accepted shots of Vodka but he couldn't use his hands to down it. Good times! Great Tips!!
How is it oppressive to wear a burka in those cases where it's the woman's choice, and not forced on her? How is it rational to say that burkas are oppressive (without qualification), yet hijabs are okay as long as they're not forced on the wearer? What's the difference?
From the very article you linked to:
[quote=BBC News]UK mother-of-seven Tahira Noor, who has been wearing a burka for 20 years, says it's "100% my choice" and Mr Johnson's comments show a "lack of knowledge".
The "majority of the women who wear the burka" she says, are born and brought up in Britain. They are "educated in this country, they've been to colleges, universities, and have understood why they want to do what they're doing," she told BBC Radio 5 Live .
"They're under no oppression, they're not doing it because their husbands want them to or their fathers want them to."
Ms Noor has four daughters none of whom wear a burka.
"I haven't forced my daughters into it because I don't have to," she said.
"It's not a must. It's not an obligation. However... [it] gets you closer to God. It's a spiritual thing more than anything else."
She is "not under an obligation" to cover her face but does so because it is "emulating" the Prophet Muhammad.
So, how does she respond if asked to remove her covering for security reasons?
"I'm happy to take my veil off," she said, citing the example of being asked to at a bank.
"When I travel, and I do travel, sometimes I don't even wear [it] because I think it's a lot easier not to [for] security reasons.[/quote]
For security reasons even private parties can ask to either remove the Burqa or ask the person in question to leave. So it serves no purpose other than moralising nonsense that plays into the need for people to punish others for perceived slights. Thus racist to boot.
This is purely hypothetical, given that they're not all oppressed, but I disagree. If they were all oppressed, then a State ban would prevent the oppression of victims of oppression, and it would only oppress the oppressors, who are the perpetrators of oppression. So it would be the right thing.
That's the wrong conclusion. What would happen is that these women wouldn't be allowed outside anymore.
No it's not.
Quoting Benkei
That would be a crime if it was against their will. The oppressors would be reported to the police and arrested.
Logic!
:rofl: Sure mate.
Well, go on then. I'm listening. Or is that all you've got?
There could be anyone/ anything under a burka
"Unveil that burka! How do I know you're not Richard III or a bookcase!?"
I have wondered about that. It wouldn't be the first time that a person who has done something nefarious or is going to do something nefarious, has disguised themselves as the opposite gender to observe or escape capture.
He's an annoying opportunist devoid of principle looking across the Atlantic for inspiration on how to appeal to the worst elements of society. All of which suggests to me that far from being banned, he'll end up your next Prime Minister.
Pizza, or pizza pie?
:clap:
Yes please.
A work of genius.
:cry:
Yeah but even in the desert the weeds grow between the rocks. In the week after a Monsoon storm the valley takes on a bright green color as the desert takes life. Yesterday I had to take down a Mesquite tree and have a huge pile of fire kindling for the next camping trip. One I just might take on my own. :up:
He would have thouroughly embarassed Ocasio-Cortez had she not refused to debate him while making a childish reference to catcalls.
Quoting Maw
Ah and there it is!
There was nothing "childish" about making a simile of Shapiro's incessant request for a "debate", with a man who repeatedly catcalls a women, seeking a response and attention. The simile was apt; and just like catcalling, even when the man gets rejected, he rejoices over the mere fact that he received attention. So what's actually childish is Ben Shapiro and other conservatives running a misplaced victory circle over her refusing to debate, when she has absolutely no obligation to do so, especially from someone who runs a fairly far-right website, used to work for Breitbart (even when it had a whole section dedicated to "black crime"), and spent most of his twenties producing anti-Arab, anti-Black, and yes, even anti-Semitic op-eds and videos.
Shapiro's whole career is made from provocation and attention seeking, and demanding a debate with a not-yet-elected woman is a simple demonstration as to how he uses the fame of others to propel himself further into the spotlight and the national conversation. It was a win-win scenario for Shapiro. On one hand, he is a seasoned debater, but being a good debater doesn't mean your arguments are true, but that they sound true to the audience. Ocasio-Cortez is not a seasoned debater, and would likely have "lost". One the other hand, if she refused, he could, as he is doing now, call her a coward and say that she doesn't believe in her ideas strongly enough or some shit like that.
The fact is, public debates are a terrible way to gauge the veracity of arguments and ideas. They are about using flash, rhetoric, and zingy liners to "own" an opponent. They are a performance show, and Shapiro is nothing more than an entertaining showman, and he knows it.
I think people just sometimes forgets to be civil...
Ocasio-Cortez needs to up her game knowledge-wise to where she can take the likes of Shapiro on in a debate and beat him. She has the better ideas, but she makes too many mistakes. I saw her talk about Israel recently, for example, and she was hopeless. She shouldn't get a pass from the left because she's on the left. Yes, she's young but she's in the national spotlight now. Time to read some books, broaden knowledge, hone ideas and bury the likes of Shapiro, who are intellectual light weights anyway. The answer to any debate challenge by any right winger as high profile and as full of rubbish ideas like him should be a resounding 'Yes'. Then wipe the floor with him and move on.
And she's 5 years younger than him.
Ultimately, there is absolutely no point for any politician to engage in a debate with Ben Shapiro, who is just looking for attention, and riling up his fan-base and the general conservative-base. Besides, Ben Shapiro has been asked to debate by left-wing intellectuals before, who are more on his "level" insofar as they are political commentators, journalists, pundits, rather than politicians. Sometimes he accepts them, sometimes he refuses them, when he knows they are in fact more intelligent than him (see Nathan J. Robinson, or Matt Bruenig). Again, he's not interested in having a fruitful, honest discussion. He's looking to gain attention and "own the libs".
The political arena is bigger than a local campaign. She has become the new face of Democratic Socialism. Whether she actually debates him or not, she needs to show herself as capable.
Of course, they're hypocritical, and tribal and not interested in anything other than supporting their own side. Which is why we have to do the opposite and say when they criticize her rightly "You are right on that one and she needs to do better". I'm not interested in supporting the right person regardless of their ideas, I'm interested in supporting the right ideas regardless of the person. And you have to be able to articulate those ideas properly. You can't just surf along on your popularity hoping for the best because when you drown you'll pull everyone else down with you. So, for example, she's good on social issues, but needs to up her game on international, and also needs to stop making sweeping generalized statements that can easily be shown to be false and used against her, like when she said unemployment is low because "everyone has two jobs". No, they don't, roughly 5% of people have two jobs. Unemployment being low is a good thing, but the low quality of jobs and stagnating wages should be the focus of the rebuttal that everything is hunky dory.
Quoting Maw
Absolutely. But the fact that he thinks he can so easily "own" her and may even be right is the issue. Again, she has the better ideas. And, all things being equal, the better ideas will always own the worse ones unless there's an issue with their vehicle. So, I support her and every bona fide Dem socialist but she needs to reciprocate by upping her game in terms of her public representation of the ideas, which as you said is (and understandably) rough around the edges.
"Handling Ben Shapiro" is not a requirement for a good leader. Neither is an encyclopedic knowledge of modern geo-politics. I mean, it's not bad, but yes, there are plenty of conservatives who happen to have more knowledge of current politics than me. Doesn't mean I'll ever concede to their disgusting and immoral social stances.
Her interview where Israel and Palestine came up was cringeworthy. It's not encyclopedic knowledge to be able to know what the West Bank and Gaza are, and what the basic distinction between them is. This is the international issue of the day. There's hardly anything more important. So, you may be right that debating Shapiro would be a bad idea, but as I keep saying she needs to be able to debate at that level, or she's not going to be much use to anyone except locally. That's the tough truth.
Right, so at the heart of the matter, AOC and her team need to better anticipate the questions she will likely be posed, and formulate coherent responses to them. No one knew who she was two months ago, and suddenly she experienced a deluge of attention and hard hitting questions. She needs time, but she's smart and capable, so she'll get there. But my point is is that the best way to express her political maturity isn't by debating Ben Shapiro or others who just want to use her to gain attention, and who will never change their mind, but rather to continue to organize the democratic socialist base, convince non-voters to vote democrat/far left, and to appear on authentic news outlets to express her ideas.
Fair enough. I'm not hung up on her debating him. I just don't want the left to get stuck in the rah-rah team politics the right is generally in that prevents them thinking critically about their political representatives. So, I'd like to see her, as you said, prepare better for interviews etc, as the media in general as well as the right will cut her down. It's not like MSNBC or CNN are on the side of Dem Socialism or ever will be.
Right, few major news outlets will fawn over the idea of Democratic Socialism. The Atlantic, in fact just published an utterly moronic piece attempting to discredit the idea because of some inane notion that democracy harms minorities (as if Capitalism doesn't have a bad track record). So the idea itself, and AOC, have an uphill battle to fight.
Small celebration...
:party:
:halo:
- This is the international issue of the day. There's hardly anything more important.
I'm really not so sure. I mean, yes, it would be fairly important knowledge for anyone applying to a diplomatic position, but not so much for a legislative one.
If she had run a program of, lets say, reorganising the CRS panel on Middle Eastern researches, then yeah, she would have shown a pretty glaring lack of preparations. All in all, she strikes me as exactly the kind of pick you would make to inject energy and modern values into a legislative organ.
And she is what, 29? What she'll lack in political acumen and knowledge, she'll make up for by simply not calling the internet 'a serie of tubes'. Hopefully she reads up a bit on current geopolotics before running for Glorious Tsarina of the Glorious Socialist United States of Glorious America.
Hypermodernism. The term hasnt picked up outside of postcyberpunk fiction, but it is really the most apt term to apply to this era.
Eclectic disenchantment
Support her values all you want, but she is a lightweight who is going to bring embarrassment to her cause because she's ill equipped to defend it and, like it or not, is the face for socialism right now.
Had Pelosi or Hillary been challenged to a debate, they too would have refused, but it would not have been for fear of being made to look stupid.
No she didn't say he was doing that. She made an analogy to that. Not the best thing to do imo but still not the same as actually suggesting that was what he was doing.
I say use what you've got and be unreasonable and ruthless about it. Expect the same from your opponent.
I think its that kind of attiude that prevents a debate to come to a conclusion. if there isnt any kind of mutal respect, its bound to fail. a debate should allways be about the issue at hand and not the ego. am I wrong?
In the present state of things, there is no middle ground, no possible compromise, and so nothing to debate.
Be honest, humble and respectful to your opponent, and hopefully you get the same in return. The odds for a beneifical outcome is then off to a much better start.
And what is the greatest Norwegian work of art in your opinion?
as for art...does music count? If so, Norwegian Black Metal. :smile: The sound is so fitting to the landscape and climate and the lyrical themes reflect norway in so many ways.
I'm reading Little Dorrit.
Quoting Aleksander Kvam
Interesting choice.
USA.
Trump's out. Someone gave him an enema and by the time they were finished, what was left hardly filled a matchbox and wasn't recognizably functional enough to be considered President. I believe it's still tweeting though...
It is gigantic as warts on the face of humanity go. I'm on the Atlantic Coast.
me too :) the north-west of norway
Quoting Baden
Oh dear...
Ah, don't worry. It's cute. Looks kind of like a peanut. Probably get its own reality TV show and make a mint. :point:
You are somewhat right, but the truth of the matter is that neither Shapiro nor Ocasio-Cortez would have entered a debate with each other where it was actually possible for each other to convince the other. The whole point wss not for Shapiro to prove to the Left they had taken up an idiot as a standsrd bearer, but, regardless of her performance, to provide soundbites to the alt-right to spam at each occasion, screaming that she got destroyed by Ben.
He did the same with Cenk (who happens to be an loudmouthed idiot, so it was somewhat deserved) and you still get trolls on every TYT post telling Cenk how bad he was in the debate.
Basically, you would get a rerun of Sam Harris vs Craig God Debate 2, where everyone is talking past each other and yet every sides comes out convinced they owned the others.
Ought they be on any side?
We may never know...
But it does reek of lazy minded identity politics to characterize an invitation to a political debate as a sexual pass. We really need to get over such nonsense...
And if you lose the game while you're trying to inspire your opponent?
She used Shapiro's identity as a male against him by framing his invitation as typical sexually motivated male behavior. In the #MeToo era it's quite derisive and divisive.
Quoting frank
Well, yes. Civility, respect, and charity allow for better versions of arguments to be made (and debates to actually happen). Better arguments in debates means better outcomes in general. Audiences and participants get better informed, who perhaps then adjust their views to better approximate truth.
Public debates between politicians are meant to put them and their ideas to the test. Sometimes all we test for is the ability of a pundit or politician to inspire the most hatred in the most people, but for the sake of democracy (and our own sorry keisters) they ought to be aiming for understanding and agreement.
"We"? I did not have pizza or a pizza pie! @Sapientia Got pizza!
Did @Maw get pizza because he is the one who started this whole craving! BTW did you know there is Cauliflower crusted pizza for those who can't have the carbs? I didn't but I am sure there are people out there saying "Just close your eyes and imagine it tastes like flour crust!
If it's devisive it's not advantageous, but is it?
Trump has already started subtle sexist attacks on Warren. The multitide of Republicans will still vote for him.
So is it just devisive for Democrats?
Quoting VagabondSpectre
I disagree that debates are intended for or do educate the public about issues. I think it's just a showdown.
Right, so calling her attractive, or saying, "Sure, just an analogy, yet it would apply directly to her as an attractive woman" is unnecessary.
There's definitely a winner. :wink:
Maybe it is the latter, but it should be the first.
Lol I'm literally watching food videos on Youtube, and one is with a famous pizza maker in Brooklyn. It's making me so hungry :joke:
its a dirty game.
Also the idea that catcalling only takes place when men find the women attractive - rather than being pure egotrip - is so naive that its almost cute. Suggestion: talk to any woman ever.
Perhaps he wanted to embarrass her in a debate? Granted, that's not a worthwhile debate, but unfortunately Shapiro then gets away with the line that he is the one offering discussion on actual substantive issues. Overall this whole twittastrophe benefits Shapiro because it fits his caricature of the left.
Ocasio really dropped the ball(s)...
It's okay. He needs all the help since he race-baited himself by basically being a professional race-baiter that underestimated how much his audience was more into race-baiting than into him.
:smirk:
I thought the debate was going to go down talk-radio style...
(or are you perhaps referring to some sort of faux-pas where tweeting at people crosses a line?)
:lol: Yes, Twitter, that medium of deep discussion of substantive issues.
The Mind.
It Boggles it.
I. Love. This.
Not a mod, but quite obviously, no...
:groan:
Theres gotta be something about the late weekend. We had Martha last week, now this...
4chan becomes stale after 3am, I guess.
My sweet summer child, what would I trade but for your innocence!
/pol/ is the political commentary section of 4chan, an anonymous message board. It is 100% filled with racist stormfronter (neonazis) or people pretending to be racist stormfronters for the lulz. It is so toxic that it actually is one of the place on 4chan where your post history is tracked automatically.
Its just an image board site. Depending on the board you might not be exposed to anything worst than dank memes and frogposts. /tg/ (traditional games) and /lit/ are usually fine and sometimes you can find some really interesting stuff there. But everywhere else, as a rule almost everyone will be an asshole to everyone else.
Its like reddit but with a lot more porn...
You're killin me here Maw! But I guess it is better to be battered with suggestions of pizza than defending Trump, at least for the moment. We have another 6 years to go. OMG I cannot go without Pizza for 6 years!
:smirk: I will find your Achilles heel my dear :razz:
I FINALLY understand the concept of 'infinity'! There was a reason I couldn't wrap my mind around it!
It is never ending and always changing so therefore cannot be captured for my mind to wrap around it. Because from wherever it is, it is always able to slip away into the next.
I really must track down @Incision he will be SO proud!
"What's wrong with the world, mama
People livin' like they ain't got no mamas
I think the whole world addicted to the drama
Only attracted to things that'll bring you trauma
Overseas, yeah, we try to stop terrorism
But we still got terrorists here livin'
In the USA, the big CIA
The Bloods and The Crips and the KKK..."
"I only heard him read once. It was in New York, last week. I had a seat about the middle of Steinway Hall, and that was rather further away from the speaker than was pleasant or profitable.
"Promptly at 8 P.M., unannounced, and without waiting for any stamping or clapping of hands to call him out, a tall, "spry," (if I may say it,) thin-legged old gentleman, gotten up regardless of expense, especially as to shirt-front and diamonds, with a bright red flower in his button-hole, gray beard and moustache, bald head, and with side hair brushed fiercely and tempestuously forward, as if its owner were sweeping down before a gale of wind, the very Dickens came! He did not emerge upon the stage -- that is rather too deliberate a word -- he strode. He strode -- in the most English way and exhibiting the most English general style and appearance -- straight across the broad stage, heedless of everything, unconscious of everybody, turning neither to the right nor the left -- but striding eagerly straight ahead, as if he had seen a girl he knew turn the next corner. He brought up handsomely in the centre and faced the opera glasses. His pictures are hardly handsome, and he, like everybody else, is less handsome than his pictures. That fashion he has of brushing his hair and goatee so resolutely forward gives him a comical Scotch-terrier look about the face, which is rather heightened than otherwise by his portentous dignity and gravity. But that queer old head took on a sort of beauty, bye and bye, and a fascinating interest, as I thought of the wonderful mechanism within it, the complex but exquisitely adjusted machinery that could create men and women, and put the breath of life into them and alter all their ways and actions, elevate them, degrade them, murder them, marry them, conduct them through good and evil, through joy and sorrow, on their long march from the cradle to the grave, and never lose its godship over them, never make a mistake! I almost imagined I could see the wheels and pulleys work. This was Dickens -- Dickens. There was no question about that, and yet it was not right easy to realize it. Somehow this puissant god seemed to be only a man, after all. How the great do tumble from their high pedestals when we see them in common human flesh, and know that they eat pork and cabbage and act like other men."
-Mark Twain 2/5/1868
Well done! I love that song in particular by the Black Eyed Peas~
"I ones asked a philosophy professor about the time. Long story short, I was 5 hours late for dinner."
I think it needs some work... :meh:
Twain had little tolerance for what he perceived as European pretentiousness, so that fell away as he witnessed the divinity hiding in that human form.
Protesters are milling about Washington DC. It's like a hand full of white supremacists surrounded by thousands of people wearing black t-shirts that say "NO!"
Russians were trying to get in on it to ignite violence. What a bunch of assholes.
Impersonating one of your mentors in order to defend yourself? From attacks you had raised against yourself while impersonating someone else?
Holy crap that's some other level of charlatanry. How the hell do you live with yourself?
Sorry Tiff, I'm flawless
Band: Neckbeard Deathcamp
Album: White Nationalism is for Basement Dwelling Losers
Tracklist:
01.[00:00] Cucked (Intro)
02.[01:49] The Left Are the Real Fascists
03.[04:44] Zyklon /b/
04.[09:38] XXXL Obersturmfuhrer Leather Duster
05.[12:37] Incel Warfare
06.[15:59] Please Respond (I Showed You My P***s)
07.[20:17] The Fetishization ov Asian Women Despite a Demand for a Pure White Race (Outro)
:rofl:
Maw, if you had to give me a dollar for each time I hear this "flawless" / "perfect " crap in a day? I would be a very wealthy lady and you my dear would be so far in bankruptcy it would rival even Maddoff's haul and debt to his share holders.
Sorry for taking it out on you because it is really a projection of what I am dealing with personally.
Just a shitty time. .. :broken:
Who wants to wager that he cannot reconcile the Bible with the immorality of stoning people to death and so has decided to forsake Christianity and is currently on a week-long sex, drugs, and rock & roll bender?
Postmodern Beatnik is doing and how his life is evolving. To me, he seemed by far the most likely to achieve a Masters in Philosophy.
Pretty sure he was a professor and so already had a PhD.
Has the society around you embraced cremation as the latest and greatest way to have yourself handled after you die? :sad:
I was brought up that you waked a person for at least two days and the third you drive in a processional, past the person's residence on the way to the cemetary, where another ceremony is held before our loved one is placed for eternity, where we can visit and pay homage to those who have gone before us.
I just feel very …. incomplete? Shorted? Someone's is shaking the foundation of how death is handled and how now it seems so....I don't know the word....it's odd and I am not sure I agree with it at all.
I knew he was in teaching but I didn't know how far he had made it. He would make one awesome instructor! It's a bummer we don't know his real name to see him on "Ratemyprofessor" which has turned out to be pretty reliable source.
They were never good but I do feel old.
Buahahahaha! I TOLD you that you would feel old one day TOO and you didn't believe me! Wait that was before marriage and the kids! :rofl:
It's like a fever.
Actually, it's like a frustrated orgasm. Trump's reputation is dwindling, the left is calling for his impeachment and the legal proceedings are taking for-fucking-ever. Every week there's a new outrage and yet nothing happens. Americans' are starting to chafe, hurry up already.
These macho American men who are here to defend us from terrorists and illegal immigrants are singularly ready and willing to sacrifice so much in the name of freedom.
Making America Great Again, One Crotch At a Time!
It's at the very least proof that the NRA sucks. :halo:
Except this really is the end of the world. Hope you enjoyed it. It's all going down the nazi toilet now.
We can't stay on this trip forever, and more and more people are realizing they should never have elected to get on such a radically wilder ride.
Madman or genius. Only the long hindsight of history can know...
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Is it also a change-up in terms of dominant party platforms? Or will everything just pop back to the way it was like a massive rubber band?
There's definitely an element of genius to the man if you ask me.
Some things will return to normal, but it will be a long time before we forget about Trump and the many reasons he was elected. Trump appealed to conservatives with an impossible wall and an unconstitutional religious ban (promises people should have known were retarded from the get-go) and in general he exploited the perception that compared to others he was an honest and non-corrupt politician (in reality he's turned out to be the biggest liar and incompetent moron the white-house has ever seen). Trump was also the monkey wrench "fuck you" candidate that many disenfranchised voters opted for in lieu of Hillary Clinton.
Conservatives are getting a swift lesson in the pitfalls of isolationism and emotional thinking, and others are learning the difference between incompetence, bull-shit, and good/honest leadership. Hopefully the die hard Hillary supporters will realize that fielding her for a third time represents Trump's only hope of re-election; corporate style politics with all its nepotism and perceived corruption is what drove many to vote for Trump out of desperation in the first place.
While societal issues continue to increase in complexity it seems the standards of political dialogue have steadily decreased and trended toward the simplistic and the emotional. Now that it's abundantly clear that an absolute circus is the wrong political direction to take, my hope is that enough people will grow up and realize that mature, careful, and critical discussion is what our democracy requires. Not merely a return to older ways, but new vector of reform, hopefully toward something better (let's say, starting with a reform of the election process...).
Hear, hear. She needs to crawl into a metaphorical hole somewhere and not come out until after the Dems win the next election.
Oh god please let it be so! :groan:
Quoting Posty McPostface
Trump knows his way around a crowd and camera, but that's the extent of his genius I would say. It is truly a stroke of genius to get rid of one PR controversy/nightmare by starting a new one (and watch as we forget the old), but that strategy can only go on for so long before everything and everyone in a 50 mile radius of Trump is irrevocably covered in feces. Emperor Pyrrhus would approve.
That's actually a lot of people, not just some unfortunately.
Anyone have any last minute tips?
Undersell it so that if it does worse than you expect then they won't know and if it does better then they're even happier.
Stop practicing. Take your kids to the park and leave your phone at home to recharge your inner energy. You know the words by heart, all you can do now is have the due faith in yourself, that you can convince another to see what you are seeing in a profitable way.
It is a sign of over practicing and you are more likely to screw up if you start going off script in an effort to express what your well crafted words have presented. To stay on script and still allow for going off is to set the perimeter of your time with them as half script (uninterrupted by your stream of conscious) and the second half to entertain their questions and ideas. Keep the dancing under control but let your brilliance shine!
Good Luck my friend~
Because by letting go, is to say it is okay to leave me and it's simply not. Selfish? yes, I know. But I don't want him to think I have given up on him, ever.
He knows.
You should. You should stand (or sit for that matter) in front of your audience as an expert who does not need a script. If someone in the audience asked you a question, you wouldn't have a script for that (cause you wouldn't know ahead of time what they'd ask). I just got through this with a software developer pitch. I had to ask tough questions.
Of course, it's okay to consult your notes -- like a manual. Practice this. Consult your manual in front of them.
The perfect trick for public speach is to repeat the pitch every night, in bed, eyes closed, moments before you fall asleep, for at least a week before the event.
Its how I do all my orals and all my theater texts. After a few days you wake up with the whole pitch on the border of your lips. It comes naturally, without the whole preparation being completely transparent.
Damn... Best of luck anyway. Remind me to pay you a visit when you're a millionaire. :wink:
In some ways I want to go into Chicago like a rabid Rottweiler going after the care facility and then turning on my half sister who is MIA in these last five years. On the other hand, I want to go into Chicago, quietly and just show up and be a ray of Sunshine in my Dad's day. The CT scan shows dilation of the tissues around the shunt in his head to keep the pressure down, so he is still on no food as he is a candidate for neurosurgery. He is not remembering my brother being with him at the hospital 24 hrs later. My understanding is that Parkinson's patients can begin Dementia and I am the third generation of Alzheimer's on my Mom's side of the family.....so as you can see my wheels are spinning and I can barely see through the tears right now.
This could happen more than once and if I am only able to afford to be there once...when do I go?
Fuck money and all it holds us back from doing.
Why did you leave Frank?
What's up with that?
All of my best ideas start in The Lounge. Or that's my only capacity to post anything philosophical. Hah.
Thoughts?
Fixed.
Quoting Posty McPostface
My thought is that considering the OP and the subject of the discussion, it doesn't rise to that level.
Too short. But how did it go?
Sounds like Dragon's Den. You didn't have to go on TV, did you?
STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All
Michael B Kelley
Business Insider
May 2012
Source: Fairleigh Dickinson University
Sorry, I've been too busy hanging out, having a blether. How do you like kittens: fried, boiled, stewed, mashed...?
I reached out to Paul and he said he will check in here for a PM from you to connect you guys~
:flower: To good friends
Kittens are not for eating, dummy. They serve an ulterior motive, psychological satisfaction at their cuteness.
Yes, noticed that. Especially re the Shoutbox. It has been dominant for a long time though so a lull is not necessarily a great loss, and will give us a chance to get all sentimental about the good old days of foot fetishes, animal crackers, mad arguments etc.
This Shoutbox thread and the Shoutbox at PF was where we learned about one another, where Pub wisdom was a thing people and people knew they could let their hair down here. This silly thread is where we learned about Mayor's health crisis, where we learned of Oli's (MarsMan's) passing, it is where we gathered to send everything we had, prayers, thoughts and well wishes for those facing adversity at every point in the cycle of life. Praying for the very smallest, vulnerable loved ones to survive while also praying for those facing the end of life and trying to find a way to deal with the loss.
Tears streaming here and I am just wondering where the love within the community is? :broken:
The Shoutbox is still here and it did go through lulls before. We also have "The Last Word" discussion. And I'm sure most of the regulars will still be posting here on a regular basis. I know I will. I guess it's just a bit like a mixture of the old shoutbox and the green room at old PFnow. It's a little bit quieter, but maybe more intimate. Anyway, I don't see any reason to get down about it as yet. Let's all just do our part to keep things rolling along in here.
Since the vid, Bill Jilla has disappeared from the internet. Should we feel sorry for him?
Goats are cute too, especially the tiny ones! :blush:
I've never understood why this clip has been celebrated. McCain simply states that Obama is a decent, family man, and a "citizen", instead of countering the idea that an 'Arab' cannot be a good, trustworthy person, and a patriotic American, which is a more important point to make. McCain sang "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" to the tune of the Barbara Ann. He voted to oppose making MLK Day a federal holiday. He elevated Sarah-fucking-Palin, who solidified Conservative stupidity. The list goes on. Can't say I give a shit he's dead.
I go along with the criticisms, but what Republican politician ever rebuked members of his audience at a rally in favor of the opposition candidate? Compare that to what we have now. The general sentiment there is something we could do with a lot more of.
If that's what counts as the height of moral integrity within the Republican party, than it only goes to show how utterly vile the party is, and how often McCain went along with it.
@Baden is right to praise a praiseworthy act.
Sorting people into {the good ones} and {the bad ones} is childish at best.
I am curious: Do you think this is true about more than one country?
Do you think it is true of every country?
I half wondered if Sacha actually hired a professional chef to make the dishes genuinely delicious (to get the best reaction of course). In which case, we can definitely forgive him for being fooled as a food critic and feel sorry for him in that regard (for-shame Sacha!)
But considering that this person appeared to genuinely believe that he was eating [s]free range[/s] cage-raised grain-fed Chinese dissident, we might want to consider whether or not this person is in the food-critic business for all the right reasons...
Bravo I say! Cannot wait for tonight's episode!
No Palin interview yet though. There's rumors that it wont air for legal reasons, but Sacha might just be saving it for the finale if it's really something spectacular.
Sounds intriguing. Any big fish on last night? Hope to see Sarah too... She's a "funny" lady even without Sacha's help.
It was so odd. He almost seemed hypnotized the way he went along with it all:
(To paraphrase) "Here's the flesh of a political prisoner who was tortured to death. Like a bite?"
"Yes, please."
:brow:
*slow clap*
Why would anyone want Trump at their funeral? He'd find a way to make it about him. Or the media would. It would be impossible to have anything truly dignified going on with Trump present. Not to mention the fact they despised each other.
There are only a handful of people that have ever dedicated their lives to public service like John McCain did and his words and guidance will live on long after we have said our final goodbyes.
This memorial is a place very near our ranch and yesterday, all flags were flying at half staff. It was bone chilling to see in addition to the Nation's flag, our State flag, there was one more:
The major segment of the episode is a colonel Erran Morrad operation where he takes three average conservatives and trains them in [s]mossad[/s] not mossad anti-terror techniques that one of them will get to use in the field!
Respect for your dignified memorial to someone you genuinely admired, Tiff.
I heard it's actually the last one though. So, that's it. It's been...wild.
FUUUUCKKK.....
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SachaBaronCohen/status/1033804403952820224[/tweet]
This isn't fair! WHERE IS MY PALIN INTERVIEW!?
HOW CAN IT BE OVER? WE HARDLY KNEW YE!!!!
WHY?!!!!!
And just like that, as quickly as it appeared, it's gone. The serpents can rest easy once more...
I wan't to know why Showtime axed it, whether Sacha's fame made a subsequent season impossible to film (plausible) or whether Showtime wanted to hedge themselves against one of the most controversial shows in T.V history (more plausible).
In the land of gorgons, holding a mirror amounts to assault with a deadly weapon.
We can only pray that the Palin interview will somehow leak!
:lol:
Baden, I know, you know how very much John McCain means to me and my state and I sincerely Thank you for your respect of my endearment to the man, the legend, the people folklore is made up of or was....
But I have to be honest here: this, although following the guidelines, made me physically ill to read.
:vomit:
Let alone embrace :broken:
On behalf of me as well... :sparkle:
You're welcome. I do remember your fondness for JMC over the years, so I know it's a sad time for you. And I hope you'll try not to let the actions of anyone else, official or not, upset you too much. Though I can fully understand why they might.
Sacha didn't exactly pretend to be a war vet, it was just Palin's natural assumption...
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The United Parcel service! :lol:
According to one source the interview just may not have been good enough (perhaps for the reason you mentioned). Although, I can only assume that after what Palin did to McCain's presidential campaign he would probably want to see her roasted perhaps more than the rest of us!
What do you mean?
Maybe it was temporarily. There are sometimes... accidents. Or it could have been a bug. It's there now anyhow. :up:
You weren't imagining it missing because I wasn't able to find it for a while either. :monkey:
Can you name this song based on the lyrics alone without help from the Interwebs
"Is there a cure among us?
From this processed sanity?
I weaken with each voice that sings
In this world of purchase
I'm gonna buy back memories
To awaken some old qualities..."
Might you know whom I am speaking of? :rage:
Arpaio was convicted in July 2017 of criminal contempt of court for ignoring a judge’s order to stop detaining people because he merely suspected them of being undocumented.
Convicted! God this frustrates the duck outta me! :rage:
In popular culture, ‘Resistance is futile’ is a reference to a science fictional race of beings with a collective or hive mind. Mindless drones controlled by a fascist leader, basically. So far so good. But she’s wrong to suggest that Trump-hating lead to the enlightenment. For one thing, it started a couple of centuries ago.
So they hate liberals more than they like Trump.
Apples and oranges?
Sacha Cohen would not indicate so.
:grin:
I think it was antifa that got them triggered. Maybe it's that they feel more threatened by the left then they feel protected by Trump. Damn funny anyhow.
Absolutely agree. I'm glad he got the beaten in the primary.
By the way has anyone tried writing their posts using Google keyboard's (or some other) voice recognition tool. I just used it to write this post because I'm on the phone and swiping is a pain. Getting nearly 100% accuracy here. :up:
Posty McPostface
Ik denk dat het was antifa dat heb ze geactiveerd. Misschien is het dat ze zich meer bedreigd voelen door de linker dan voelen ze zich beschermd door Trump. Damn grappig hoe dan ook.
? ArguingWAristotleTiff
Absoluut mee eens. Ik ben blij dat hij kreeg de geslagen in de primaire.
Door de manier heeft iemand geprobeerd het schrijven van hun berichten met behulp van Google toetsenbord (of een andere) spraakherkenning faciliteit. Ik gebruikte het om dit bericht te schrijven, want ik ben op de telefoon en vegen is een pijn. Getting bijna 100% nauwkeurigheid hier.
Is this some kind of S.O.S?
Google Keyboard turned you into a Dutch (?) version of me??
Wouldn’t make sense. The whole point of pardons is to make it so that you have no criminal history. What you’re thinking of is commutation.
Who's been disrespecting Waya?! Show yourself!
Michael? I am not sure how it is that you know so much about our judicial system but damn! You could teach a class of Civics here in the states.
Waya, this I got from the 'mouths of babes'. When my youngest (19 as of yesterday :party: ) came home from his first semester of college (3 months out of the direct advice of Mom) he imparted some wisdom on me, that made me not just think but rethink everything I had ever taught him about respect.
I said you always respect your elders (especially in your family, love them or hate them), those who wear a uniform which includes all uniforms, (not just the first responders but those who are janitors, those who are in housekeeping, those who clear your table after a fine dinner out) and those who hold a higher position than you, that you wish to learn from.
I was speechless the first time I tried to lay that same 'Mom's idea of respect' on him and he kicked back spoken softly but firmly: "Courtesy is given, respect is earned." I almost gave myself whiplash as I was driving and I said "What?" He said "Mom, courtesy should always be given but respect? Respect is earned." My knee jerk reaction and response was "No son. Some respect is undeserved but still issued." to which he disagreed.
Though it is a mantra that I struggle with for myself, I respect him for the mantra that he has formed for himself to follow. It seems to factor out a bit too much emotional attachment that I was raised to respect but he has in turn earned my respect and I have been surprised at how many people older than me agree with his mantra.
First time running across this guy. I feel like I should read more of his.
Kindergarteners across the country wait with bated breath...
So what would it cost me for you to look at a 17 sentence "Discussion" for grammatical errors? :eyes:
Or
What about smurfing you into a 'backpocket' version of your Awesomeness? :starstruck:
Oooooo An Awesome App!!!! :100:
Hurry!!! Someone trademark it now!!!
He might want to start with our current Seniors in High School and work his way back to kindergarten because there are a BUNCH of Americans that know so much less that what Michael seems to possess.
However, I am not sure how much he is getting paid but I am sure everyone has a price. No?
And no, @Sapientia. Although you pride yourself in paying attention to grammar, I simply could not absorb all of your red ink that would outweigh the black ink of my original. :smirk:
I did think of you though. You have a way of sneaking into peoples hearts.
Oh and I should be honest here in telling you that I asked @Paul to look at a writing of mine that I love and gosh, my Mom made a color copy, framed it and is on her home office wall along with pictures of the kids and grands. :heart: :hearts:
But I did not get the same response from Paul, in fact I had to ask him what he thought after he read it, as I was looking for a critique to find a better flow and well... :meh:
Paul said he couldn't even finish reading it because in doing so, was making his eyes bleed! :scream:
I mean a critique please but damn that was a rough report and I think of Paul every time I see it hanging in my Mom's office. :chin:
I realize there are some convoluted "scientific" reasons that suggest it might be the case, but philosophically it's just a flashed up version of turtles all the way down (or a self-caused god) given that if we could prove we are simulated were then left to answer the original questions of existence as they pertain to the reality we're simulated within.
Is it simulations all the way up? Seems absurd to me...
Elon Musk, the well known savant, suggests we should pay it forward by simulating as many universes of our own as we can lest our creators think better of it (which seems even more absurd)...
I know. Was just joshin'...
I know but it is the reality of the current state of the USA. We literally removed "Civics" classes as well as "Home Economics" and "Shop" and "Music" classes from many schools to be able to better "teach" the students. The testing that grades the schools became more important to teach to, than the students lifelong needs themselves.
To improve testing scores they came for the "elective" classes and one of the most important classes we ever take and that is "recess".
They....We....eliminated what could not be tested, such as the impact of recess on small group communication and our ability to compete on a friendly level with fellow classmates, not all of whom we got along with. Or those classes we deemed not worthy of testing, the trivial things like how to sew a button on, how to balance a checkbook, how to manage a budget, how to fry an egg or how to file taxes and why. Shop class taught me how to use a wood lathe, a belt sander, a drill press, how to rewire a lamp and how to balance a table with two legs uneven. Music class? It's where I learned everything about life, happiness, sadness and how to breathe properly. I learned that in singing, much like in life, the trained ear that is listening will understand why some words' ending letter are left unsung yet somehow heard.
So yeah, I know you were joshin' but if you ever want to 'teach abroad' we have a spot in our teaching community for you as well.
Just don't get your hopes up for an "Awesome App tdk " for we all know there is only one who is "Awesome"!
The changes do sound retrograde, which doesn't surprise considering who is currently in charge, although it seems education has, for a long time, been a bigger problem in America than in many other major democracies regardless of administration.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
Been there, done that (including some high school but predominantly university). Figured out after a while that it's not for me. Appreciate the offer though. :up:
Yes, but isn't what is better for the greater good, more important than personal gain? :razz:
I consider my sanity both a personal gain and for the greater good. :wink:
There is a Hanoverism in there somewhere! :lol:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45374037
I just got my mind around the concept of "infinity" only to find out yesterday that there is more than one "infinity" out there! :scream: I began to run until I heard the word "perfect" and I saw a little hole that maybe I could get in on. :chin:
SO there is an infinite' number' within infinity but now you are telling me there is a "perfect" infinity, one that I have not already grasped? Do go on... :monkey:
Anyone who thinks they've got their head around all this infinity stuff should be locked up in Hilbert's hotel and not let out until they've spent a finite amount of time in every room.
Being honest, I don't think Ivanka is too fond of daddy's rhetoric either, but there's not a lot she can safely say about it.
If Agustino were to catch wind of this, he'd blow a gasket.
Why'd you dump the owl, artist-formerly-known-as-Sapientia?
¯\_(?)_/¯
Not good enough. I suspect you're having a nervous breakdown or an early mid-life crisis and I insist on helping.
Great! You can start by mopping my floor.
Apples are firmer.
*Mops the floor with the artist-formerly-known-as-Sapientia* :100:
At a certain level of firmness, the secret service get involved... and I don't have enough apples to share with them. :D
Throw oranges. They'll never know.
Yes.. because they're orange and so is he. Makes sense. Fire is orange too, isn't it? Just mulling my options here. :fire:
So are jumpsuits.
Happy birthday, Posty! :party:
Thanks Baden! :party:
Yes, you heard me right. And there I was, thinking it was going to be just another run-of-the-mill, "Is it okay to have children?", discussion.
I wish you the best that life has to offer in this next year of your life~
Cheers~ :party:
Tiffers :flower:
(Woulda said so sooner, but some wiseguy moved The Shitebox. :rofl: )
Is this the real life, is this just fantasy?
Caught in a landslide no escape from reality
Open your eyes look up to the skies and see
I'm just a poor boy, I need no sympathy
Bohemian Rhapsody.
Quoting Baden
Well, you know how certain celebrities are so well known that they need only their first [i]name[/I] to be recognised, like Mariah, Whitney and Kylie...?
My guess is that you are in the Internet Witness Protection Program and they instructed you to change your name to a letter so those looking for you would have a harder time finding you. :eyes:
Maybe it is YOU "S" that @Michael is assigned to.... :chin:
I think a career in the solar industry wouldn't be a bad idea for me. Thinking about going to some occupational school and do the solar voltaic occupation.
My Brohemuth in law made good change with Solar City but would have had to move back to Cali because AZ stopped their 14k reimbursement for the panels. Alas he had fallen in love with a blonde bombshell who happens to also be a Doc. Not a Doc that @Hanover would ever consider to be anything more than VooDoo Doc but what does Hanover know?
Belated happy birthday.
:flower:
Nietzsche was often wrong, especially when he said that there is no creatures more pathetic than a short woman. I think he put it "a short man remains a man nevertheless, a short women is less than nothing".
On another note, anyone else notice that they arent always notified when they get a reply in a thread?
If your name is edited in after the initial post you won’t.
It's a travesty that chiropractors are referred to as doctors. It really is. The educational requirements for entry in chiropractic programs is ridiculously low and their holding themselves out as providers of general care (as many do) is a public health issue. Some people see their chiropractors for annual check ups like the chiropractic has any real understanding of body chemistry or of actual disease.
I learned recently that the Queen had a homeopathy doctor. Crazy.
I'd like to say the same to to everyone as well!
:cheer:
You didn't have any other plans for the next 3.5 years did you? :razz:
If you ever feel lonely, check out the online tab. You'll never be alone here. :eyes:
Nah.
Buuut, the poster said... :worry:
:lol: great image! Can we have the Admiral pop up randomly and float around the screen? Or subliminally flash on and off? Or made part of the logo?
Hmm, can we make money out of that? :chin: *(starts planning retirement)*
I'm looking to hone my formal skills and knowledge in poetry. I've written a lot on my own and have a decent "feel" for it, but I don't have that formal background. So the stodgier, drier, and tediously detailed -- the better. :D
Quoting Posty McPostface
See, this is why the ShoutBox should be updated on the main page: Our most productive poster Posty McPostface announced his birthday and nobody almost noticed it. Terrible.
An even more belated happy birthday on your nativity.
Does @ celebrate his nativity, or does he go into mourning? Throw a hissy fit? What?
So, adding spaces to demonstrate here, you would just type this out without the spaces:
@ " Name "
Which is ridiculous. Has the man never heard of chutney?
Your conclusion rests on a false premise and thus is to be ignored.
It's one extra mouse click, folks. I am the only one with a properly functioning index finger?
:lol:
Also, the editor tab on top of the draft page has the “@“ symbol, which when inserted will autofill the names, if you type in the first letters. Very handy. :up:
:blush:
Phanks, Bitter Crank.
Quoting Michael
Meanie!
Whatever floats your boat.
Also I'd like it to stop the ageing please.
Deal. As long as I also get some wings so I can fly like a bird,
Good point. Either or both is good then, Tiff.
Because there is no stopping the aging process. The Nano chip only cures diseases.
Do you still want to take the chip?
Sorry no wings. Just a disease free life but still aging. Deal?
It cannot be both. Either has it's consequences but you are only being offered a Nano chip that keeps your body disease free. Still game?
Tiff, it seems like you're asking something analagous to: Do I want a thousand dollars plus nothing, or do I want just nothing. Obviously, I'll take the former. What's the dilemma here?
The downside of your choice to take the Nano chip to keep your body free of disease but does not affect the aging process is what happens when your children decide to not take the Nano chip or when those your age decide to not opt in.
The older I get, the more commonality I have with close friends but the harder it seems to make new friends. So if those around me chose to opt out, I would have to endure the loss of those while I remain disease free but quite possibly lonely.
I think the fundamental need to be with others we love and who love us outweighs the desire to live much beyond those around us. There is a natural order to life and death which I think needs to be respected in order to keep the balance in check.
Thoughts?
I am not sure that there is a dilemma. I am exploring it with you. I don't have the answer.
When do we start talking about kitten's?
Blondie kitten, OMG!
Maybe I've misunderstood your question. Does this chip also stop me from dying from age-related issues like organ failure? So immortality but without eternal youth like Tithonus from Greek mythology?
Go home Blondie kitten, you're drunk! But do send word to Luke Starswatter. Now for the mane event.
I failed to tell you that your response made me lol. :lol:
You bring up a good point, I never thought of the mental consequences quite like that.
Yes! Exactly!
Are you taking the Nano chip?
We do offer organic Hummus and Pita bread if you want the alternate menu choice
Yep.
:grin:
About getting a chip implant... imo, I don’t trust the general medical industry and pharmaceutical phactory any further than I can throw it. If vitamins, herbs, exercise, and natural foods and therapies don’t do it, then I’ll mostly pass. Except for emergencies and such... Cutting down on sugar and refined carbs might be the healthiest thing I’ve ever done. Less acidic food equals less corrosion/inflammation/infection equals less disease. YMMV.
Help me Obi-won meow meow! You’re our only meow meow! :pray: :yum:
Too cute! The cat must be rolling with those saucers like that. Haha.
Hmmmm, sounds like Washington, DC at its best.
It's a catastrophe.
Praise be upon the cat.
O Lawd. Only praise for our Lawd and saviour!
Even so, under the assumption that I'm the only person that happens to get the nano chip and therefore the people I'm most close with will die first, I am inclined right now to say I'd do it.
On purely selfish terms -- of course I'm attached to life. And I am a curious sort of person -- and not just about pleasures, but also pains.
On the middle -- I have lived through lonely stretches and I am the sort of person that no matter what I am rarely bored (except at work). But when left to my own devices, regardless of who appreciates whatever I happen to do, I am pretty much always able to find something I want to do.
On selfless terms -- If I could choose it I would prefer it that my parents, siblings, and people who loved me died first. I know I would feel sadness at their parting. I know that I would feel a deep loneliness. But I know I am the sort of person who can stand that. I'd prefer to be there for them because I know I can rather than they there for me -- because I don't know if they really can do that.
The president's future does not well-bode...
America isn't so keen,
Now that the world has seen,
That Trump's penis looks like Toad:
It's one small mouse click for man, one giant leap for us folks.
There's a gun pointed to your head and nuclear war could break out any second now and we're in a driverless bus going down a steep hill and we're all going to die!
If that's his penis, I'd consider voting for it. The rest of him can bugger off though
*Spoiler alert*
Maybe more like Pac-man. Both made it big in the Eighties before going bankrupt. And neither can keep their mouth shut. :snicker:
tupid.
Kitten's what?
Just kittens.
Yes, more kitten's... Moar!
Sounds like a job for:
The cat doesn't look happy. The aristocat is interested in a boat, however.
Too decadent. Gotta be hungry to work hard.
Facebook failing to protect moderators from mental trauma, lawsuit claims
Contractors ‘irreparably traumatized’ by having to witness child abuse, rape, torture, suicide and murder, says former employee
And that's just at the FaceBook office.
I prefer golden retrievers.
I wonder how traumatized our moderators are. Joking aside, the internet is festering with that crap, and my endless gratitude at the people keeping the webs clean.
I am tired of moving. My soul needs to rest.
:lol:
OP disappears and you have no idea why, please feel free to inquire.
Edit: I'm not sure why I posted this here.
Are you microdosing?
Probably because you took a light dose of LSD.
I on the other hand took a large dose of alcohol on Friday night and spent all of yesterday throwing up. Not my ideal weekend.
You have my nomination to the supreme court.
I do. :heart:
Do you believe there can be an Actual Infinite
It is open to new posts if anybody wants to make any.
Sorry for the interruption.
Is PragerU advising people to come stick it to the atheists?
Has the religious right in America decided that it is the new side of intellectual thought, and are here to make good?
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/217343
I am confuzzled and frankly I am not sure I want to figure it all out.
"I don't know, don't really care, let there be songs, to fill the air..." :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower: :flower:
But my favorite correlation to your tla of LSD back home was when we as teen agers would ask each other if they had ever done "LSD" in downtown Chicago? :rofl: We would say "Absofuckinglutely!" and the adults would look at us....the whole time knowing we were talking about the Lake Shore Drive LSD.
On a side note, the use of LSD in hospice is coming into focus and there are people who believe that Microdosing MDMA would be effective in increasing compassion and human connections.
@ProbablyTrue
Any thoughts on those two ideas?
You pray to God in a pretty similar manner to any other religion -- out loud in a group, or silently at home, thanking him for this or that and asking him for this or that.
As for the church design -- probably just a choice of aesthetics. The church is more of a meeting place than a glorification of God. The temples they build are much more ornate.
Noooooooooooo it's not! And I bruised my tail bone on my flights. Now I am carrying around this classy pillow to sit on.
:worry:
But yeah. It's not a very ceremonial church -- though the temples are high in ceremony and grandeur.
Having grown up that way, and gone to many other religious services I tend to think of it being basically a conservative protestant church, with a few extras.
That's probably the nicest review I can give. lol.
Last week, man. Was awesome. Melty-wavy-colourful-awesome. :ok:
Yes? :grin:
"It is not well to dwell too much on the separable verbs. One is sure to lose his temper early; and if he sticks to the subject, and will not be warned, it will at last either soften his brain or petrify it. Personal pronouns and adjectives are a fruitful nuisance in this language, and should have been left out. For instance, the same sound, sie, means you, and it means she, and it means her, and it means it, and it means they, and it means them. Think of the ragged poverty of a language which has to make one word do the work of six -- and a poor little weak thing of only three letters at that. But mainly, think of the exasperation of never knowing which of these meanings the speaker is trying to convey. This explains why, whenever a person says sie to me, I generally try to kill him, if a stranger".
https://www.cs.utah.edu/~gback/awfgrmlg.html
The whole essay is just a bag of gems like this. Helps explain why reading Heidegger can be so insufferable.
http://www.laboriacuboniks.net/
And here I thought I was just a bigot! (been using a language app to learn some German).
On a serious note, I wonder what kind of superiorities, if any, exists in the english language.
It's not the most spoken language (almost is) but pound for pound it seems to get the most done. It also seems to be an excellent language for the expression of singular or particular sentiments (many words with many connotations; many syntactical avenues). Perhaps any linguists or polyglots could weigh in and reveal to me why my fondness for english isn't merely due to the circumstances of my birth. (I speak french and smatterings of a few other languages).
Putting myself in the shoes of a French or Spanish or German writer/philosopher, I would be tempted to write in english because it seems to get the most circulation, but also because I see it as a more versatile clay. Am I wrong?
I'm guessing the prowess of english has something to do with the fact that it has had the most affluent upbringing (widely seeded, and bolstered, by the British empire and the industrial revolution, especially during times of rising literacy, and then again by the U.S and the spread of its technology). It has accumulated so much that we can probably say more english words have fallen out of common use than exist in common use.
What other contenders are there for the title of "Greatest Living Language"?
I've never taken MDMA, but from the people I know who have taken it they would say that's true--at least temporarily. A coworker of mine took MDMA and had what he considers a life changing experience. He is a much nicer person overall than he used to be. I've also heard that the FDA is encouraging trials using MDMA for chronic depression, so that's an exciting prospect.
As for LSD and hospice, I think we've probably heard the same things. I guess it can sometimes change the perspective of those who are terminally ill to the point that they don't fear dying anymore. From my extremely limited experience, I can say that it places you in the moment in a very clear way. Although I didn't take enough to completely kill my own meta-narrative, it was as close to pure experience as I've ever been. It makes little things in life far more interesting, and when you view things from outside the 'how does this help me survive' paradigm, it can make our dreams and fears seem kind of silly.
It was fun, but no melting. Someday though, someday.
I don't know if rattling the old cranium would be good for me...
Though I must say I'm tempted. The lore pointing toward its capacity for "breakthroughs" is something that arouses me deeply.
I have a few and maybe others members have pictures or stories they may like to share. :halo:
My Great Grand Father, Lorenzo C., age 18, fresh off the boat from Italy. The man with him was probably a local "mafioso" who liked tall kids. A short time later he met and married Severina Serafina Pucci, my Great Grand Mother. [url=https://postimages.org/]
Don't get excited, grandpa, it's just a commercial.
To be honest I didn't have any "breakthroughs" or epiphany or eureka moments. When I sobered up I quickly realized every sort of wild idea I had was stupid.
No one under 80 uses the word “youngster,” ya senile old coot.
Praxis: "Hey, thanks for pointing that out. I didn't notice how bigoted that sounded."
Frank: "No problem. I knew you weren't a scumbag!"
Hey! What the hay? :brow:
No one says a thing about the history of my familoso yet you argue like two of my own Italian Uncles. :roll:
Can we have a little more love and a little less hate? :heart:
Maybe we can break bread over some homemade pasta and vino?
Thoughts?
Cool photo. Great gran dad looks a bit trepidatious.
They say that talking to yourself is a definative sign of dementia.
Actually Tom Hanks talked to himself all the way through Cast Away. He wasn't demented.
It's actually Chuck Noland that talked to Wilson.
All Dem.
Riding the blue wave, baby.
:zip: :eyes: :monkey:
:blush:
*meep*
*meoooow*
* Diane shrugs*
"Fuck you, cat."
[don't take it personally. Reference Twin Peaks 3]
S'up, Posty?
:cry:
Quoting Noble Dust
Nothing much. Same as usual. Just looking for stimulus to do anything. I need a lot of stimulation to get me going. How about you? You've been quiet recently. I wish I had that urge to create, as all I do on these forums is remunerate and ponder over whether I'd let Wittgenstein do me in the bumhole.
:cry:
Sorry, slight contextless context qua my avatar and the "fuck you" comment (purely for aesthetic reasons):
Quoting Posty McPostface
Yeah? Looks like you're starting lots of threads as usual. More interesting than half the cadre around here; at least you've got questions, rather than answers no one has asked for. That ol' stagnation though, is a bitch. I've been mostly forgoing philosophy and looking into a more mystic approach. To each their own.
I've been quiet because it's probably best for me. I may or may not make some noise when the time is ripe. Just dropped in randomly.
The urge to create, eh? What would you create?
Thank you for asking. That means a lot.
I don' know, you know. Just something of lasting significance to the or in the world. Is that possible?
Of course!
I don't know; what does creation mean to you? It's a little tough, because it's easy for me answer that question musically; so I'd be interested to know what creation means to you specifically. I'd assume it would be something different than what it is to me.
:lol:
Welcome back :up:
Yes. Creation for me is the birth of something with significance. Lasting significance is an ideal. To produce something of lasting significance I think it would be required that the thing created be... I don't entirely know now.
Hehe.
I hate it when a reply is a music video. Haha.
:D
If you're looking for OMG, WTF, how awesome is this, see:
I think, the proper response is, WTF?
But, I got something for ya to lighten the darkness with brilliant light:
Don't negate a positive.
This is great. If anyone watches The Good Place, they actually have a real life philosopher helping out with crafting the scenes. It just so happens to be Todd May, who has written heaps on postsstructuralism, and recently a bunch of pop-philosophy books. So cool.
Against a Federal Registry of Genitals
James Hamblin
The Atlantic
Oct 2018
Nobody knew human biology could be so complicated.
I'm going to draw you. Then I can blame the source if it looks bad.
Beat you to it.
Here's my improvement.
Day 1
Day 12
It looks like you are a fast learner :clap:
I learned how to draw with shapes so my drawing of horses and dogs are hard to tell apart. :razz:
It still looks nothing like Hanover. But keep trying. :strong:
:up:
:(
I think the cat is alive just gummin along :flower:
--Weatherford
The cat is still smiling.
*I think I just contradicted myself.
A real question, though. For those who've competitively grappled, is it required that you always wear a condom?
What? No; one on each. Duh. :brow:
You wear one on your top penis and one on your bottom penis so that if one breaks you're still protected. It's basic biology, man.
My superhero name.
I saw James Hamblin in a restaurant in NYC earlier this year
So some other cat is wearing the skin of the earlier taxidermy cat? Creepy. But then it is almost halloween. It's a clever costume.
The cat is meowing at @Michael.
60% of world's wildlife has been wiped out since 1970
[i]Emily Chung
CBC News
Oct 2018[/i]
:(
Speaking of 60%. There's a 60% chance of rain tomorrow where I live, but a 70% chance of rain at 3pm tomorrow. :confused: But Google said so, so mathematics must be wrong.
It's basic maths. If there's a 50% chance of it raining at 5 and a 70% chance of it raining at 6 then the average chance of it raining at 5 or 6 is 60%.
:sad:
It says chance not "average" chance. And the averages for the twenty four hours don't make sixty anyway, so that couldn't be the way they're calculating it. And, well, if it was that simple, even a Hanover could have worked it out, and that would be no fun.
The problem here is that you're thinking like a single pecker, whereas us double peckers have a better maths than the rest of you.
It's those demi-peckers and their inability to count change I feel sorry for. Bless 'em.
Lips are still giving me real trouble.
:death: :up:
Some real questions:
1. Do the ladies find the lower of the double decker uncomfortable?
2. Do the respective peckers finish simultaneously or might one flop around like a rope while the other proceeds in earnest?
3. Does the upper result in an eye poke while the lower is specially pleasured?
4. Are there 4 nads total as expected, or is there perhaps a 5th nad hanging from the tailbone to provide an extra umph?
Lemme know.
Sure they do. Here's my girlfriend.
Dude, that's awesome possum.
Yes.
Alright, who swiped my diary? :angry: AND had the audacity to redact the most important part of my fantasies involving two firefighters? :rage:
Who? Hmm? :chin:
Lookin' good. :up:
Thanks Paul!
We are glad you are here~ :flower:
This was so sad on so many levels. I can't help but feel sorry for the girl.
I just thought of someone who is very talented at drawing people: hyena in petticoat's daughter is AMAZING at her drawing!
But the expert in Anime I believe is @Wosret!
Missing me some Wos~ :heart:
To my American friends (everyone else sucks), please remember that the voting day for all Republican votes is today, and voting for Democrats is tomorrow.
Kind of a pointless announcement as I doubt any Democrat would be friends with you. They have standards.
:fire:
But I'm not a pregnant American so it wouldn't affect me. Try again.
Indeed.
Hey now! That is not a card that is held by a married person!
I passed your word onto Chicago and they assure me they have voted more than once, just to be sure ya' know :rofl:
He's not a conservative, he's just a very naughty boy.
That's why we like him! :clap:
MMhmmm…. :chin:
Just like abortion, that rule won't affect you.
True, true.
hyena in petticoats' off springs' eye drawings. I got permission from @hyena in petticoat to post the drawings here as I suggested it might help you with yours. :wink:
In all truthfulness, the kids work is AMAZING and I will show it off any chance I get! :party:
[url=https://postimages.org/]
[url=https://postimg.cc/rdmmps8W]
[url=https://postimg.cc/9rQFbz7k]
:eyes: :sparkle: :up:
I used to like Michael's stuff but I can see now that relatively speaking it's crap. Thanks for opening my eyes to that.
Random aside: We're closing in on a quarter of a million comments now on the forum, some of which are actually worth reading... :)
Dick
Edit: I will have a drawing reply ready soon.
Maybe I needed an emoji to make it clear that that was a joke??
Your joke sucked. >> [insert emoji here]
Now don't double cross by claiming you were joking about it being a joke and you were actually serious.
Rushed it but oh well.
Weird time to get a golden shower, but whatever floats your boat, dude. :party:
I actually did a degree in Zoology. Shame on me. Nice rendition anyway. :up:
Although we have endured a house fire and had to rebuild our lives from the ground up which was tragic, we were blessed to be the ONLY ones having a house fire at the time. We were not one of tens of thousands, our insurance representatives and claims advisor were only working on OUR house fire and another one across town. Dear God the personal attention we received...I just...feel very blessed for my family and my heart breaks for those who are enduring Mother Natures' Wrath right now~ :broken:
Because your admission to thinking SE Cupp is hot still keeps me awake at night :yikes:
:wink:
She wrote Frankenstein.
Quoting ArguingWAristotleTiff
Who?
Anyway, that was , not me.
Ah...I had to walk out of the movie Bambi because of the hunters killing the deer so Frankenstein was certainly out of my fear league. :scream:
Because your admission to thinking SE Cupp is hot still keeps me awake at night — ArguingWAristotleTiff
Quoting Michael
Whew~ That is right. See how easily I am scared? :eyes:
Kennedy
[url=https://postimages.org/]
Or SE
[url=https://postimages.org/]
If you go to KFC late right before closing, they'll give you all their old grilled chicken for free because it's way too dry to sell to actual paying customers.
Just go in and order it like you don't know and when they tell you it's going to be too dry just say you want it anyway and Amman will give it to you for free. Then say "does it come with a biscuit" and sort of smile, and he'll roll his eyes and give you a biscuit too.
The same is true of elder prostitutes.
:gasp: How dare you talk about @Baden s Mom like that! :monkey:
Another year of @Hanover humor, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Posty McPostface leading the forum on what our Spirit Animal is for the moment, ever evolving, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @unenlightened for being a wave maker and wind calmer of the forum, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Baden PC bias that changes like the direction of the wind, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Maw to represent the upcoming liberals, be they news anchor or Senator elect, if it's a woman and she is in the news, Maw knows, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @SapientiasLittleHelper observing from above, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @andrewk cleaning up when things get messy, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Waya keeping the midnight oil burning, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @StreetlightX being the softie on occasion, explaining what others cannot see, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Sir2u and the wisdom he imparts, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Benkei to debate the USA laws and keep our moral compasses aligned, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Bitter Crank to guide those in the flock that can stray away, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Mayor of Simpleton for watching over us, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @fdrake for explaining some things we take for granted, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @Banno for being the loveable old goat that he is, definitely something to give Thanks for
Another year of @ssu ensures a safe place to question what others assume to know, definitely something to give Thanks for
I could go on and on and on and would still miss yet another friend but alas I must prepare the ranch for the incoming family but I would be amiss to leave out a HUGE Thank you to @jamalrob for keeping our family, our motley crew, our group of misfits but tribe of 'thinkers' together through the years, for without you, there would be no us.
In that spirit, I raise a glass to toast to you my friends the world over, a healthy, happy and peaceful Thanksgiving Gathering~
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Please take your place at the table of 'thinkers'
Dinner, drinks and dancing is free upon submission of your favorite quote
Indeed my wind is apt to be directed unpredictably.
Let's see how long we can keep this pun going.
Perhaps both. Luckily cancer isn't an STD :up:
Now, now. Don't be so bitter. I'm sure you can find something to be thankful for. Maybe Tiff will even offer a pretend apology for her "oversight" to placate you.
Actually it can be. As I understand it, you were the result of malignant pregnancy contracted from a promiscuous brain injured ogre, having emerged the womb a bloody cancerous mess, only to be saved by the vitamin rich feces that chased you down the birth canal..
That's what I understand your birth to have been. I might be wrong. If I got it wrong, my bad.
:blush: Another year of @Michael evolving in my dreams but never straying far from the first photo I ever saw of his Awesomeness :love: , is absolutely, undeniably, forever singed in my brain, definitely something to give Thanks for :sparkle:
Nothing to apologize for unless you want to claim cruelty to bunnies! :razz:
Keep it up and you are going to be sitting at the kids table... :brow:
Phanks Tiff. I'm thinking of becoming a Honey Badger next.
A Toast To Tiff...
Absolutely lovely~ :heart:
Hmmmm…..I hope not to read about a man chisled to ….. :zip:
Please, don't feel the need to post any pictures, I have a really hard time getting images out of my mind like @Michael. A picture of him, must be ten years ago now, is still active in my brain~
Good estimate. I think it was 11 years ago.
Time passes while you are having fun! :yum:
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy Wayaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! :party:
Nice, thanks Tiff
I do mean the overwhelming pleasure some people experience during sexual interaction that we often close our eyes during. When we close our eyes are we thinking of nothing or are we thinking of someone or something else?
I do mean the overwhelming pleasure that comes from a food you are tasting that is THAT good, that you close your eyes upon tasting it? Are we concentrating on the texture and the taste that makes us close our eyes?
Same experience can come with an overwhelming smell of Orange Blossoms if your pass in the Citrus Groves just after sunrise and where it is irrigated (heavily flooded green space) and you close your eyes because the smell is intoxicating.
What is it about overwhelming pleasure that makes us close our eyes?
Or is this something that only happens to me?
What causes that reaction in you?
For me there is one other place that I can think of and that is at a Smoker Barbeque restaurant where you walk in and you can practically eat the air it is so thick with heavenly smells.
I feel like it is a way to immerse yourself in the experience. Or an infantile attempt to "capture" the feeling in one's mind.
@Hanover, and advice on how to maximize the most out of this circumstances?
Nothing I know about at the moment. All that is stated is that they are defining "property damage" as "contamination from the fire" near us. My mother informed me that they're going to send an inspector to asses the situation, so I can update then if you're willing to lend your advice.
Quoting Hanover
Nope, none of that.
Welcome to The Philosophy Forum
Slick Willy is that you? :rofl:
How is the family? I see you reading the boards but not a whole lot of words coming out of your keyboard. Maybe it is the new company with the ladies that you are forming. What was the business model again?
Oh and what was the dudes name in PF that had a moveable wall in his office that lead to his home in back? The ladies were always "hot" in temperature so they had to wear these very itty bitty outfits at his office....what was his name.....
Well, if you're going to limit your claim to actual losses and not imaginary ones, then you're going to be limiting your recovery.
I don't know what the name of the porn boss is any more...
Dude.....have you got a full nights sleep without lil' Benkei in the house? Maybe two nights in a row when your brother cares for the kids?
In all seriousness, your mind will stop functioning more without quality sleep, than it already has after having kids. Just speaking from my own experience.
Quoting Benkei
Dang it! Maybe @Michael knows....
I have a mind that stores pictures forever but names...they escape me quite a bit.
I’m pretty sure it began with S. That’s all I’ve got. Ran a business in South America?
Yes, you have the right dude but what was his name...
I cannot believe after all the drooling of PF members, other than yourself, that NO one remembers his name! There was a line out the door for people, including @Benkei maybe even @Sir2u willing to relocate and go work for the man.
Ooo this bugs me....he looked like Richard Branson.... what was his name....
For the past 6 months, I have been researching, getting opinions, second opinions, third opinions (all of those professional) and the opinions of friends and family as well.
I have to have both my upper jaw and lower jaw set of teeth replaced. Not restored but replaced.
Now I have the fear of dentists like no other, my pain tolerance level is subzero AND it starts weeks before any procedure but I can control that, now, unlike how I couldn't as a child.
I have investigated Mexico's dentistry, a nationwide company "Clear Choice" and a personally owned business of a Doctor (Dr. WinterHoller) who accepts my dental insurance and is 30 minutes from the ranch.
Clear Choice = $57,000
Dr. WinterHoller: $40,000 $20k now and $20k to do my other jaw in two years
Mexico= $12,000
So here is the rub, I am too much of a risk for sedation to try Mexico in addition to the fact that once you have work done in Mexico, a USA Doc won't touch you as there is too much liability.
I cannot have Opiates of any kind and Clear Choice will bring in another anesthesiologist for an additional $1k to keep me comfortable during the 8 hr procedure. It's way too much in cost.
So that leaves Dr. WinterHoller and the $20k I have to come up with to have the surgery on my lower jaw. That $20k provides me with lower permanent teeth and an upper denture until I can pay the other $20k for my upper jaw.
Bless my parents for they are gifting me $5k to have this work done and they are both retired and lost $10k last week just in their IRA's so I really don't want to even accept the $5k but my reg Doc is worried about my ability to eat and the risk of having an infection make it into my blood stream via my mouth.
Additionally we are in a holding pattern on loans until we sell the ranch and the only credit I will take out and have taken out are cosigns of college loans for my son.
It's really a no brainer when I have to choose between a years tuition for college for my son and my mouth. I can wait and get him through school, it's a promise I have to him and myself.
The Doctors say at least I am a candidate for this procedure and as I reenter the work force with a new career underway, I am going to be talking a lot and need to project the confidence I have.
Through the tears I have asked the Doctors a fundamental, close to my heart question and they have chuckled a little which makes me sadder and that question is: do you offer smiling lessons? It has been so long since I have smiled that my facial muscles don't even know how to do it anymore.
They all assure me that once I have a full set of teeth again, smiling will come back to feeling normal.
And I get through all of that and STILL cannot even come close to funding such an endeavor, at least not before my son is out of school or we have sold the ranch.
Needless to say this is causing a riff with myself and NicK as he is up for Mexico but we cannot cover it here, yet. They haven't said as such but my parents would not gift me a dime for this to be done in Mexico because they want me alive and it is too complicated and too risky to have done down there.
Additionally, my medicine is here in AZ not in Mexico and I am not going to try to take my medicine with me INTO another country. Fer fucks sake....let's keep our heads about this....
Fuck, fuck, fuckity, fuck fuck
Medical reasons are why they need to be replaced and dentures are an option, one that I have looked into and they are covered by my insurance with a cost of $6k but my insurance will only pay that once. So if I am to use it for a 'hold over' option until I can get the funds for the implants, that 6k would be wasted once I can get the implants.
Mexico is just not an option and NicK has come to the understanding that this work needs to be done where it is guaranteed and where I can be tended to in the event something were to go wrong.
Quoting Michael
On an individual basis the implants are $5k so it wouldn't be cost effective.
This whole thing started because I am back in college with 3 classes left to complete my Associates degree and another 2 yrs for my Bachelors degree. I had been raising the kids for the last 21 yrs and now I am able to focus on myself. Going back to school to get my degree to become a Social Worker is going to allow me to be a bread winner, as well as NicK, who has been the sole bread winner for 22 yrs and begin our retirement savings. I come from a long line of women who return to work after raising their children and provide a comfortable retirement savings, so this path is well blazed for me and I am rested, ready and capable.
But knowing that I am going to be talking for a living factors into this whole surgery and what kind of appliances I can handle in my mouth. Also, I am going to need to be attending a University in a year has just factored into whether or not we sell the ranch.
It's complicated but the hot housing market is cooling and the next housing bust is slated for 2020 so I wanted to be sold by this month, which I started on getting the ranch ready last year and NicK said he wanted to wait until 2019 which was cutting it too close for me. Essentially we needed to sell now and buy in 2020, with a rental in between or risk being stuck here for another 8 yr cycle putting our ranch price back up in 2028. If we stay till then we will see a huge return as our ranch location is protected by endangered species laws so the view will never change and that is an awesome thing.
By 2028, I will be well into my career and the kids will have taken over their loans so things will ease, given good health and life....
So here is NicK's suggestion: we refinance the ranch which will take us from $3k a month to $2,100 a month and use the equity in the ranch to refinance the cost of the whole set being done at once.
Yesterday morning started out with outbursts of stress that suggested suicidal feelings and ended with a possible solution. Will it work? I don't know. Is it an avenue worth exploring? We have to.
Michael, I cannot tell you how much it means to me for you to field some of my most complicated life situations with the grace in which you do.
Thank you for being AWESOME! :100:
@Maw
It looks like our settled dispute over what Pizza is better has been challenged by a series of letters and numbers. It looks like an algebra problem which for me, definitely eliminates any competition to ANY food! Well other than Vegemite that @Banno is so fond of!
I was talking to some guy the other day and he was going on an and on about the cheap dental care he got in the Ukraine. He said he paid about $1,500 there for what would have been a $20,000 fee here, and the round trip ticket was around $1,200.
My Google search came up with Romania as being a really cheap place to get dental care: http://www.romaniandentaltourism.com/ I dated a Romanian girl once. It didn't end well, so if you go there, don't mention my name.
If you tell me the specifics of the procedure, I'll youtube it and do it for you. No charge. I need someone to learn on.
I got a gold crown on my tooth the other day, but it's silver gold, so it's not as hip as I wish it were. I had to get it repaired because I busted it all to hell chomping on ice.
We may have figured out a way to obtain the cash at a lower % interest in a refinance, changing plans on selling the ranch which is okay as I will need to be near the University for my Senior year.
:pray:
It does sounds like you've got a pretty jacked up grill though, so it might be worth doing right and not letting an old world butcher hack away at it. Of course saving a few dimes is always nice, so tough call.
:wink:
Sounds like your large competitor is going to need to pay you off. Maybe you can get paid to sell your patent.
The sadness I see in the eyes of those who have failed causes me such jubilation. When under stress, I close my eyes tightly and imagine those sullen faces, bringing me to my happy place.
I'm only like 30% in but my karma is super high! Of course, of course. The lame thing though, is when it is so close to max, one small indiscretion equals a lot of lost work... so I gotta be like super careful.
What's your take on Theresa May? Good or bad politician?
Holy shit!
Haha!
Someone grab my hand and hold on please :pray:
I am sure Santa is watching... :eyes:
I'll hold your hand (as long as you haven't used it to touch @Hanover recently). :grin:
So now that you are here, not doing much of anything, want to help me untangle these Christmas lights? :cool:
:rofl: @Maw God I love you!
https://eand.co/why-were-underestimating-american-collapse-be04d9e55235
Got this response from Blighty:
I'm sure you know just what it is like to be without fear, until we're eye to eye (well, as close as that will be, since you're little), then we'll see. You're withholding of belief is your withholding of the terror that will accompany it in you. Because you are not fearless, but faithless, and a jester, a clown.
I don't want a podcast, clown. You're not helping, and have zero advice for me, or any such way to justify the theft to yourself.
Speaking of Santa, I just booked a trip for me and my boys to go dog sledding in Fairbanks, which is close to the North Pole I think. It should be fun, or just really cold and dark. The northern lights are supposed to be really visible this time of year. New years at the top of the world.
Maybe I'm a little resentful and bitter. I regret the incendiary remarks, and apologize. I don't want more animosity than is necessary.
Though "balance" "the center" "freedom unbinding and awakening" Buddha stuff, is on par as well, though is harder and takes longer than the path of sorrows.
Neither one is any good by themselves, but quite good in unison.
[I]...echo, oh, oh...[/I]
I just flipped out at someone, and am getting tortured about it right now. I smoked some weed last night, and drugs makes me freak out like a maniac in the following day or so. My dad told me it was the drugs, but I did it anyway, last night. Had been clean for a week... another three weeks and this mind fog would clear, and I'd be fully sober...
Someone I didn't expect to come came though, and I didn't want to talk to them, so I freaked out, and was all like "what are you doing here", because I was waiting for like two days to have a good talk with the other person... and then they cried, and left, and I went to try to get them to come back, but they wouldn't so I just go madder, madder than I've been in months, to the point where I just hate myself, and don't wanna be around myself...
I'm never doing those drugs again, this time I promise. I have to listen, and stop.
The heroin problem is a side effect of the invasion of Afghanistan. It's terrible and it's everywhere.
One thing you can thank the Taliban for was their ironclad grip on the production of heroin in Afghanistan prior to the war on terror. Now they grow it to fund their war efforts against American troops in Afghanistan.
They really do hate us.
My infinitely curious mind posted a topic in regards to this issue. It's called, "The War on Terror".
Let me know what you think.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/dec/18/judge-rotenberg-center-electric-shocks-ban-inter-american-commission-human-rights?CMP=fb_gu&fbclid=IwAR0W37c25pyT0diZtxgSaxOcOmdZMYgk5lOJGfdNbPzimL2mP9hK8PrcuWU
I really really want this to be fake news, or I want to start a boycott the US campaign. I thought we were friends.
Jesus :rage: what the fuck?
Thank you unenlightened for bringing this to my attention. I literally got ill reading the link to the documentation of torture here in our homeland.
It is said that you can tell the measure of a man based upon how he treats the weakest among us and this SCREAMS utter disgrace. :angry:
This needs to stop here, this needs to stop now. :strong:
WE are friends, our government oversight is not.
Child Torture Used to Control the Disabled
Dear President Trump,
You and your lovely wife Melania are, in my humble opinion, doing so many wonderful things to make my life and other 'forgotten' Americans, lives better that I wanted to write you and Thank you for your service and your families service to our country.
I must tell you that I have learned of a policy in caring for our disabled children, that in my eyes, amounts to torture. To use an electrical prod that carries a current STRONGER than those provided to Police departments across our country and those are used on suspected criminals, NOT on children who have done nothing more than being born with a disability.
Is it approved policy for Police departments to use their stun guns on children? Would you allow anyone to ever have the right to use such a device on Barron? I would never allow someone to use such a barbaric act on someone I love and do not believe it should be available for use on any children.
But, to allow such barbaric treatment, to be used against the most vulnerable in our society, is not only unacceptable but should be illegal. Full stop.
I am writing you, to make sure you are aware of this legal practice and asking you to stop it right here. Stopping it right now. I believe if you are to shine a light on this barbaric treatment to the American public, Americans like myself will stand up against this horrific policy and work with you to stop this treatment in it's tracks.
Someone needs to be held accountable for continuing to allow this treatment and until it has been outlawed, we the American people, will fight for the humane treatment of the weakest among us and I expect you, as my countries Commander in Chief to do the same.
I would like to Thank you in advance for your attention to this horrific policy and although I am not a Kardashian, I am a loving citizen who has a problem that is bigger than myself but not bigger than you.
Please update me on the status of my letters to you so I can follow the progress on ending this outdated practice on disabled children.
Sincerely,
Tiff
Personal name, street address and phone number provided, necessary for submission.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact
The White House, Washington
December 19, 2018
Thank you for your email. My staff is closely reviewing your correspondence to ensure your views, questions, and concerns are addressed.
As President, I have no higher obligation than maintaining the safety of the American people, especially our Nation’s young people. Following the horrific tragedy that occurred in Parkland, Florida, earlier this year, I took immediate action to secure our schools by establishing the Federal Commission on School Safety (Commission) and directing it to provide a comprehensive set of policy recommendations for keeping our schools safe. Over the past year, the Commission has listened to students and educators, local and State officials, first-responders, and the general public, soliciting input and feedback as it drafted a formal report to the President on school safety.
This afternoon, I hosted a roundtable to mark the public release of the Commission’s report with members of the Commission, State and local law enforcement officials, the families of school shooting victims, and educators.
Thank you again for taking the time to write. Together, we will help ensure all of our Nation’s young people have every opportunity to reach their full potential and achieve their American Dream.
Sincerely,
Donald Trump
You see a blended family can leave you with more than one Dad or Mom and as most of you know I lost my biological Dad this Fall and the process played out, everyone handling death in their own way.
Now, when I consider my position in the family, I am the only one who lives in Arizona with my Mom and Step Dad, as my siblings live in Illinois and Georgia. Do you think for a moment that things will change and it will be more than me here in AZ handling the daily? I am not holding my breath.
However suggesting to my Mother that it will likely play out the same with their passing was not received well and frankly the reality bites but it is what it is. My concern is that my only Uncle in Chicago, has yet to be invited to the Christmas get together for the family in Chicago. Mom says he is a grown man and he will be fine and I am "Mothering" from a distance. I push back with that I love him and want to make sure he knows he is wanted...and here come the tears... Is it really that hard to let go of the past and love the present?
Mom says that I am pushing my siblings away from me by caring about my Uncle to the degree I do and I say that if it was her, my Mom that was being left out I would be just as concerned. To which she went nuclear and said I am talking like my Mother in Law and her obsession with preparing for the end of the world.
Thanks for listening...
Do you know why?
Perhaps uncle is glad to be out of the loop, perhaps you want to push your siblings away ( I certainly push mine, or would if they approached). Families always fray at the edges; siblings gather spouses and offspring and in-laws and sooner or later, the cousins must start to fall off the radar.
So I think you can allow yourself to feel the connections you feel, and if someone wants to call it 'mothering' as if there is something wrong with that, that's their folly. But if the people you feel connected to do not feel connected to each other, that is not a crime, or even an insult to you. Let be, and find another way to express and maintain your connections - families are not just for Christmas.
I am trying to compartmentalize my feelings about my Sister who is not wanting to keep our relationship alive, which is her choice that I need to respect. Her obligation to our remaining family is done and I am working on being okay with her departure. But my brother and I, still have two parents and I guess it is no surprise that I should expect to go to through their aging process alone. But I need to keep reminding myself that it is okay if he doesn't help out as I can't change him but it feels disappointing and makes my heart sink to think that I am the only one going to feel my way through it.
Caring about others, who don't care about or for you is hurtful and I have got to figure out how to stop doing it.
Five days before Christmas and I am trying to figure out how not to care. Something is very fucked up in this world or something is very fucked up in me.
Oh, don't do that. Keep caring, keep getting hurt, keep on trucking.
Did you get sent a letter from Donald Trump?
Yes. The above post was his actual response.
Do I believe that it is a personally written response to me only? Not a chance. Do I think it is being read? Absolutely. Every letter, gift, note sent to the President is logged, recorded and preserved for as long as I have been alive
I will mail the same letter to The White House, once a week till it changes. If by chance I see no progress in outlawing this practice, I will inindate my local Senator and Congress lady with the same letter, until something changes and I can be a persistent bitch when I chose to be and this is worthy of my time.
It's because you live in NYC. Don't play.
Pawn to A3.
Don't let my knowing the name of that opening move fool you; I'm a terrible chess player. I know the name of the move because I used to make it a lot (gotta get them powerful rooks in play right?). I was wrong. Apparently it's universally agreed upon as terrible!
At least something is getting fucked lately :smirk:
If you haven't seen it do yourself a favor and watch this:
King to your mama.
Yeah. I live off the the southern half of the G now, which has been surprisingly reliable, though.
In other news, I finally went to Di Fara. Yup. Worth the hype. 45 minute wait, not bad!
What did you expect to come home to after fulfilling your selfish need, to travel to the North end of the Earth, to hand deliver your present list to Santa Claus himself? :roll:
And a question that occupies my mind is: Did you tell him you celebrate Hanukkah and already received your presents? Hmmmm?
Also Di Fara is just so excellent, what did you get? 45 minute wait isn't too bad. Have you been to Emily's and Lucali's?
I just went with my buddy, so we got 4 slices between us; 3 regular, and he got a sausage slice. Wanted to get squares too, but they were out. I'm a regular slice litmus test guy; gotta compare it to everything else. Haven't been to Emily's, but Lucali's, yeah. 2 hour wait there, which was a lot, but it was great. I'd honestly just as well go to Di Fara, though. Next on our bucket list is Lombardi's; I have low expectations, but gotta do it.
Use the Chinese food to make a giant map of China. Easy with noodles. Harder with rice. (And tell your brother there's no way I'm posting bail for him until he tells me where you guys put my hamster).
Lol! Then you already got your present!
Merry Christmas!
Is this foot selfie thing of yours going to become an annual event? :worry: I am pretty sure the other foot person had shoes that were made for walking. :zip:
We need to wash, peel and grate 10lbs of potatoes, peel, slice and dice 8 onions, cook and crumble 8 lbs of bacon and mix it all together in a sour cream, butter, egg and flour batter.
It's called Kugeli and it is a family recipe that goes back 5 generations to the farms where Christmas dinner was special because of the bits of bacon in the already grown tired of harvest eating was a treat.
In addition to what is in the Kugeli, you serve it with a side of what else? Sour cream, sautéed onions and bacon.
Here is the grind: on a keto friendly eating plan the only things you can have are the toppings minus the onions. So we are going to literally grate our knuckles making this because in the end we cannot even eat this lusciousness! :flower:
I ask you: Where is the love? :broken:
I eat kugel, not kugeli, a far more delicious Jewish food. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kugel
Onto the important stuff:
It reads as though the Jewish are less than shall we say 'creative'? I mean to go and take Italy's prize invention of the pasta noodle and then mash it up with some other stuff and call it YOURS? :scream:
That seems a little out of the spirit of the season.
So Kugeli, the RIGHT version comes down from my 100% Lithuanian Great, Great, Great Grandmother~ Bless her heart~ :pray: :heart: :flower:
Now, are you going to analyze or help? :roll:
The position of 'just sitting there looking pretty' is already filled with @Baden and the bartending is being handled by @Michael.
Know how to work a potato peeler? :brow:
We can do more philosophy. :)
The struggle is real. I'm too much of a pussy to want to major in philosophy. Student debt scares the crap outta me. Anyway, post something philosophical and I'll be sure to reply. :)
I have one of them. Can’t remember how much I have left. I barely pay attention to the letters I get.
I make a mean Kolachky
Hanover, are you sure that I am not Jewish cause @Benkei says I cannot just wish to be Jewish because I can cook their food, love Jewish sense of humor and the idea that Jewish men don't like to see their women in pain? Are you kidding me? No one consented me to being Baptized Catholic but that is for another day seeing as today is Christmas.
Back to the food dude!
It seems that the Jewish have stolen another famous food and renamed it their own! Those poor Italians! Yes, I know how to make Almond Biscotti half dipped in chocolate that are so hard we would turn your modelbrot into crumbs on the matt any day of the week!
Is there anything that you can think of that is only "Jewish"?
Or is this world like one big Taco Bell where they have the same five ingredients just made into different shapes with different combinations?
I don't mind the commonality because frankly I am a kick ass cook/chef/baker and am willing to throw down with you on anything but grits and shell fish. I mean I could learn how to prepare them, improve on them but I personally don't eat them and rarely do I cook something I cannot taste.
I had to relocate a part of your reply DiegoT to respect the spirit of the thread you wrote it in but I simply could not pass up the humor it struck in me if we were to just change the order of the words contained within the quote.
I am trying to behave, really. :halo:
Are these shaped like triangles almost pyramids? I see them next to the Halva and they are soooooo good but addictive!
All sorts of theories why they're triangular. Haman was the villian in the Book of Esther, read every Purim, and the treat is named after him.
Halva, now there's a middle eastern treat I've not had in a while. Where do you shop, the Jewish butcher?
OMG those are awesome!!!!!
Halva has been a Christmas tradition longer than I have been alive. There are a couple local delis that carry it but one little place in particular is way too close to my parents place that makes it in house. My favorite is the Marble Halva cut into chunks, dipped in chocolate. OMG Hanover, this food porn has got to stop!!!!!!
~fanning herself~ :fire:
As a former server and restaurant manager, you never want to hear that sound but when you do all kinds of scenes flash through your mind as to who was hurt, customer or staff, was the meal ruined and uggg you just cringe at the sound. Thank GOD I had already put down the electric carving knives! :up:
In the seconds after I am waiting for the fallout and my youngest indian, now 19, comes around the kitchen corner with blood running down his hand :scream: Something is lacerated for sure! Of course I loudly, calmly order Granny, my Mother into the kitchen NOW! Many of you know Mom is a retired Trauma Level 1 nurse (the worst of the worst injuries) who moved onto Hospice care but trauma is in her blood. Do you think that Granny/Mom is actually listening to me ask her in the kitchen quickly which I had been keeping her out of all day?
Well, maybe, but she wasn't coming as fast as I wanted her to.
Now I realize my indian was going to be okay but I was trying really hard not to freak out and I made it though that initial shock. Granny/Mom said he needed stiches because he sliced his hand in the webbing between the thumb and first finger and the location was just too tough to heal without so off Urgent Care we went.
We actually we tried 8 different Urgent Cares, not one was open so the only option was to go to the non critical side of the Emergency Room. Five hours and three stiches later and we were traveling back over hill and ran across dale to get back to the ranch.
Bottom line is? It could have been much worse and could have gone as planned but there is a saying out there that offers the wisdom gained last night which is:
"Life happens while we are busy making plans".
@Hanover my dear, my buddy, my friend, might you have any leftovers? :pray:
Oh and as a side note, his University requires that all students carry health insurance and if families do not have it, like ours, you have to purchase it through the school. A $1,200 a year policy that collected no co-pay or deductible? Flipping screaming deal if the Insurance actually pays the bill to satisfaction, we shall see.
This begs the question: what good would a triangular hat do to keep your ears warm?
In my opinion, non stuffed pizza pie should be cut in squares because the whole pizza gets eaten that way. :100: There are crust people and non crust people and if you pay attention to what is being thrown away, perfectly GOOD pizza unable to fulfill their ultimate pizza destiny, winds up with the empty beer bottles in the trash, instead of nourishing someone's' soul.
THAT is blasphemy! :shade:
Maybe it was a trend that changed things because before pizza delivery was a "thing" all the pizzas in Chicago were cut in squares. When I moved out to Arizona, I really thought these people were half baked (lololol) in cutting their pizzas into triangles. :eyes:
Memories really do romanticize everything.
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I hope to be smiling brightly in next years photo! :pray:
On Christmas day all the restaurants were closed in my fair hamlet except for Waffle House, which never closes. My two boys and I went in for a traditional Christmas day meal of eggs, toast, waffles and other assorted breakfast treats when in pops some carolers, guitar and all, singing the American classic Feliz Navidad. The diners sang along joyously, and once the serenade ended, our entertainers became street hustlers, asking each diner fairly aggressively to donate a few dollars to the orphanage advertised on their laminated card. I kindly declined several times as the young guitarist persisted until the manager (and I knew him to be in management because of his tie) began escorting the trio out. As they were being escorted out, a young woman, maybe 19 or 20 years old made a final attempt at my table to ask for a donation for the needy (who I suspected was her). She asked very kindly, and so when she was met with my single word bark of "GO!" she seemed a bit stunned. Was that fear I saw on her face? I think it was. Ah yes, Christmas cheer abounds.
My oldest son couldn't stop laughing as he most certainly inherited the family sense of humor. My youngest was a bit appalled, remarking I treated her like a dog. A gentle and naive soul I suppose. A Google search determined that our band on minstrels were actually part of a cult that goes around hustling for money in this way, so I did feel vindicated reading that and confirming that I didn't just hiss and spit at an actual volunteer seeking aid for the less fortunate.
As I thought back on that moment, it really pissed me off, people using the giving season and pictures of those in need to hustle for money and a previously unscathed naive soul now awoken.
Go away. Just fucking go away.
I'm sure the last time I saw a photo of you you had big, curly red hair.
This quote definitely served it's purpose in 2018 but we might want to soften it up for 2019.
Might I suggest to respond with: "Everyone is on their own journey, I wish you well in yours but alas you are not part of mine. May Karma bless you~ :sparkle:
:point: Or we could go with a good ole Chicago defense and advise your children
"Never, I don't care what they say to you, never talk to someone who approaches you while you are walking." Which doesn't really work when you are in a private establishment but if you were still applying Chicago logic, you would already have your back to the wall with a clear line out the "EXIT" door. :up:
Between your language/grammar skills and my almost photographic memory, we could make one hell of a crime fighting duo! :strong:
Me too. There are a group of hustlers that work a set of corners in our part of the suburbs and we have watched what happens when we give money. One friend gave a kid who was holding a sign that said he needed shoes and his shoes looked bad. She gave him $25 and said go get yourself some good shoes. She went on her way, shopping at the mall and was returning home when she saw the same sign being held by a different kid but the same crappy shoes and she confronted him (best she could at the stop light) and the kid hustled over to the other kid that she had originally gave money to and that ended our giving to anyone hustling on street corners.
Sad way to happen but there has to be a better way to give. My feeling is that those who truly in need are not going to be on the street corner for they have too much pride to ask. Those are the people I seek out to help out when I can.
Woo Hoo! Music is AWESOME for the soul!
My youngest indian asked for a quality keyboard this year and he got one. It is soo cool in that there is a hold on the key tones and they are touch sensitive in that you have to hit the low notes harder and the higher notes softer. It is awesome and there is one song I would like to learn on it.
An easy song of course: My Way by Frank Sinatra as it is helping me through my Step Dad's choice to refuse any further medical care. My Way embodies his persona and his inner soul. :sparkle:
:pray:
Happy New Year all!
Commiserations, mate. :sad:
Oh well. Staying in and watching Brooklyn Nine Nine is better than going to a club and finding the next girlfriend anyway. :brow:
To those already in 2019 while we are stuck in 2018, congratulations. You are living proof that time travel is possible.
Happy 2019! :party:
Whatever...
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Mhm. No more drama.
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This is where I was in Fairbanks. -25 F (-32 C). That's a dog sled.
Your efforts at composition and manipulation of avaliable light sources have appropriately paid off in expressing the impression there was snow and some other random stuff where you were at. :up:
Minimally, although dropping one from a great height is more likely to result in chicken soup than flying chicken.
So, it can fly. Just not very far.
So sayeth the illustrious Google, knower of all things galline.
*cluck*
Yep :up:
OMG it is so pretty! It must be so quiet when you go outside. I love looking down on Chicago from the 44th floor or higher and the snow makes the whole city look so virginal and delicate~ :heart:
You know Hanover, earlier this week the weather man was saying that Phoenix was colder than Fairbanks. :scream:
Tell me something, what are you searching the end of the Earth for? :chin:
And I realize I am repeating myself but Arizona is a year round destination resort state. Last summer you escaped the heat of Atlanta in Arizona and now you are escaping the cold of Atlanta for Alaska.
Are you seeing a trend here? :smirk:
If a Quail can fly, so can a chicken. :100:
Don't let people tell you to reach for the stars when there are footprints on the moon! :strong:
They say anything and everything can fly in the Carribean. One day you wake up finding a goat on the roof.
Anyway, chickens in the US are too plump to fly. We pervert their ability to fly by stuffing them too much. It's all relative, I tell you.
Well they fly better than Quail and yes I think they are flying which involves gliding when you are using wind currents to land so yes, they are flying. Interesting though in that a Hawk can ride the wind currents for hours without having to flap their wings but a chicken? They do seem to put a lot of effort into it but I am not sure they are getting that much out of it.
If gliding is part of flying, when does the cake batter in the oven become cake and no longer batter?
I don't know. It seems like one can't say that chickens can fly like a bird. But then how else can you put the fact that chickens can flap their wings and generate lift by not calling it "flying"?
But, they can "fly" for short distances. Does that count?
Thoughts?
Yes, I wonder about the evolutionary history of chickens. Why did nature make them incapable of flying for prolonged periods of time...
It didn't. We did. Chickens were domesticated and bred for being fat. They became too relatively heavy for their wings to carry them more than very short distances. Their wild progenitor, the red junglefowl, doesn't fly much either as it doesn't need to, but it can fly a lot better than a chicken.
You can't glide upwards from a stationary position. Flight requires a sustained independent means of lift.
Yes, I see now. I wonder if there was a period in time when chickens could fly or we're they like the evolutionary equivalent of what mules are to horses.
Well, it's not really an either/or is it? As they became more domesticated the junglefowl became progressively less adept at flying due to the pressures of artificial selection, and at some point commonly known as "chickens". And there was no third-party species involved as there was with mules and horses (i.e donkeys).
Jelly.
@Baden's approval.
I call this piece "Get the Fuck Out of the Road with Your Piece of Shit Truck"
My son had two birds that didn't fly, but that might have been because of the cage, but who am I to say?
Sounds like your precious thoughts are fading into the ether.
I don't understand the connection between these two statements. A penguin's "wings" are actually flippers and are used for swimming rather than flying, so they're not useless.
Help? :gasp:
Who wants a gig watching an adorable Rottie so I can sleep?
I am willing to pay whatever it takes.... :100:
Before the Internet, before Google, who in your life (micro and macro) were what you considered a "solid" source to get the most accurate information from?
For me, my micro source was and would likely still be my Mom, even at age 48.
For me, my macro source was much more complex but without tapping into the news, it would have been my Grampa and now.... my best male friend who was responsible for my meeting my husband 29 years ago this Oct.