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3017 claimed that the gospels prove that Jesus existed, and if they don't then history books should not be believed. My point is that the believabilit...

I think it has something to do with the idea that since we do things to maintain or change our environment there is some human like being or beings th...

The wisdom books were written long before Christianity. There is in them some influence from or common to Greek thought, but there is also resistance....

Noesis. What the intellect grasps or sees. The good is not something that is. The argument, laid out in the other thread, leads to the conclusion that...

The problem as I understand it is with our inability to know the good itself. https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/557494

I made a mistake. I thought you might finally be ready to discuss things honestly and openly. Wrong of me to expect you might change. Enough already!

This is so predictable that it has become comical. Whenever I point to Socrates' arguments that run counter to what you would want them to say you let...

I think we decided that it is undecidable, although I am not sure what it is we have to decided on.

I have noticed the attempt to move philosophy from the world of academia where jobs are scarce to public forums. Seems to me to be more that a bit of ...

It's old school. Real old school. Back before your time, back like when the other guys in the battle of the bands were saying it was the end times.

I agree. And inquiry is in part allowing oneself to notice. If we think we have the answers or we have expectations about things we can miss whatever ...

I am not sure if this is a general observation about De Anima or if it is in response to something specific I said. Do you have in mind the dual aspec...

Socratic or zetetic skepticism differs from other forms of skepticism. Aristotle's morphology was something considered known. That the soul is the for...

One of my favorite bands! Unfortunately, recording quality back then was very poor, practically non-existent.

Sounds interesting start a thread.

I think that Aristotle, like Socrates and Plato, was a zetetic skeptic. The matters under discussion, despite appearances, are not resolved. The reade...

Fear not. Paul tells you everything you need to know. He invents a new religion in which Jesus' admonition to follow the Law does not hold.

More evidence of your ignorance of the problem.

On the contrary. There is the Sermon and what Paul himself says.

And on and on and on endlessly and evasively arguing. From anyone else I would consider this a joke, but it is not. It is a sad demonstration of your ...

Jesus preached to all who would follow the Law. Paul knew that the gentiles would not, and yet he felt compelled to "save them".

There is no translation that is considered the "correct translation". The Bloom translation is widely used and regarded as one of the best. It was pub...

We could go round and round as you are so fond of doing. If you take the Sermon on the Mount as the words of Jesus andwhat he says about keeping to th...

This is just your standard response to whatever goes against your hermetic Christian Neoplatonist beliefs. It must have escaped your notice that every...

4 Socrates Argument For Why the Good Cannot Be Known The argument is not easily seen because it stretches over three books of the Republic, as if Plat...

Jesus does not say this, Paul does. What is acceptable to other cultures is not thereby acceptable to those who, like Jesus, follow the Law given to G...

Yes, zetetic skepticism. Knowing that neither he nor anyone else knows he inquires. He sets out to understand things as best he can, according to what...

When talking about the Platonic dialogues it is standard practice to refer to Plato's Socrates simply as Socrates. Plato's Socrates is not the histori...

You means the reader, including me.

This is true. I have discussed this on several threads. Strauss, mentioned above, is actually responsible for the renewed interest in this, although h...

What we do know is his concern for the human things - self, morals, political life.

Ray Monk's biography: "Ludwig Wittgenstein: The Duty of Genius"

A critical difference is that philosophy relies on reason, the biblical religions on revelation. What is known as the problem of "Athens and Jerusalem...

Yes, I agree. I think Plato's intent was to have the reader do the same. Some interesting work is being done with the interpretation of Aristotle: Ari...

@"baker" in response to my question: you had responded that it is not something you know but something you accept as a matter of faith, that would hav...

Yes, they mean something by there words, but that does not mean that there must be some actual object that corresponds to the words. You've lost track...

The underlying assumption here is that if something can be imagined then it must be taken seriously as a real possibility. We have no reason beyond pe...

Contrary to the typical textbook and history of philosophy, it is not about conveying thought or ideas or information from one person to another. It i...

This is an important point. The most influential contemporary work on this is Leo Strauss' "Persecution and the Art of Writing". https://press.uchicag...

Once again Socrates' irony is lost on some. Socrates does not say he believes the sun and moon are gods, he asks whether Meletus is accusing him of no...

It is called a Stephanus number. It is a numbering system for citing the dialogues. Not all translations have them but you can find online translation...

The claim that the Forms are more than just hypothetical requires that they are things known. Socrates has admitted that he does not know them. He tel...

See 26c

Well, as usually, he kicks up some dust and thinks no one will notice that he has not answered. He is like someone playing chess who thinks that as lo...

We don't. And that is why I said I suspect the answer to your question has to do with the assumptions you bring to it.

You asked: Socrates was accused of atheism. If he did not believe in the gods then he would have regarded the mystical prophecies as human inventions.

It is both. If I find Benardete persuasive and you find someone else persuasive instead, then that has to do not only with them but with us.

@"Banno" It looks like you are going to have to explain the difference between substantive and substantial.

In fact I have. A scholar whom many consider one of the best - Seth Benardete. You may have someone else in mind. Who I find persuasive and who you fi...