Sadly, you avoid the question and repeat your incantation. Where does he say this and not the Good in the Republic? He bans the poets (397d-398a, see ...
Where did I say this? You make up shit and claim I said it. Let's make a deal. Show me where I said all this and I will concede that I am wrong and le...
A good passage to show the need for esoteric writing. I agree Yes, this is why his search for the Good plays a central role. His inquiry whether it is...
If he were an atheist do you think he would come right out and say that? What do you make of the absence of God or gods in the discussion of the Good ...
What does Plato say in any of the dialogues? Nothing mysterious about it. Is google something you find mysterious? Perhaps someone can explain to you ...
It is not that I can't see it, I just don't buy it. Do you think there is a chance I might if you repeat it again or again a hundred times? Once again...
And I didn't say that either. I also pointed out the Socrates does not say that he knows nothing. Perhaps if you hadn't decided to ignore me you would...
And have you read the literature? I just did a quick google search. The first thing that came up is an article in SEP from a fine scholar Charles Gris...
Not needed. Anyone who knows the literature knows it. Think for a second. Anyone can look at the book. What they see depends on their ability to read ...
Why to you continue posting the same thing on two different threads? Proselytizing? Do you really think there is any value in misrepresenting what I s...
No, I am talking about the arguments in the dialogues. I have invited you several times to discuss them, but following in the footsteps of Euthyphro h...
If I did not know better I would think you are kidding. The arguments given in the dialogues. Have you really not understood this? When you ask "what ...
And yet several times a day you come here attempting to pick it apart and repeatedly advocate for your own Neoplatonist view. You have made it knows, ...
Yes, I am tired of this relentless repetition of your beliefs and intolerance of other interpretations. I know that I am not alone. Why this need to p...
Again, you do not understand what the term meant. Repeat the incantations over and over again. I have two threads that follow the arguments from the b...
It is not a hypothetical situation. You do not understand how the term 'hypothetical' is being used. The city is made in speech. In the city the poets...
Socrates says: You do not follow the argument where it leads, you ignore the argument because you assume where it leads. Anyone who has read the liter...
I think you have it exactly right. Plato, not wanting to suffer the same fate as Socrates, had to do two opposite things, appear to not be a threat to...
Are you that so self unaware? You say you have no need to have the last word and yet again and again you have more to say, or, more of the same to say...
Why the intolerance of views other than those you hold? Why the need to have the last word on thread that I start? I have never read Shorey. Just anot...
And this is your example of logical reasoning? They are two different things. I think even you must know that. Your frequent appeal to the Church Fath...
What I said is that Plato never speaks in the dialogues. There is not one place where it would be true to say: "Plato said" when discussing the argume...
You keep repeating the same things over and over makes you right? You would make a great juror for the defense in a murder trial: "He said he was not ...
You have already said many times that you read the dialogues through the eyes of the Neoplatonists. Repeating it every time I post something is at bes...
Of course it proves nothing. It is not about proof. It is about learning how to read an author who has something to hide. One must learn how to read b...
Of course it proves nothing. It is not about proof. It is about learning how to read an author who has something to hide. One must learn how to read b...
Once again, context is important. When taking things out of content they may seem to mean something different than they do. Socrates is wrapping up a ...
Once again, Neoplatonism and the works of Plato are two different things. One choose to interpret the latter through the former. Using your analogy yo...
Right, and Plato rejects that. Follow his argument as outlined above. But it is not a given. As you know, I posted a long thread on the Phaedo that sh...
The cave is said to be "an image of our nature in its education and want of education". (514a) That education is the work of 'image makers' who shape ...
One thing that is often overlooked is that Plato is an image maker. The ascent from the cave to the light of truth is itself an image on the cave wall...
The passage cited is about astronomy. It is the "fourth study" after solid geometry. It is the study "which treats motion of what has depth" (528e) Gl...
There are many things that can be objects of contemplation for Aristotle, that is, many things that can be seen with the intellect. His treatment of m...
When did religion become something other than politics? Was it with the death of the Messiah? Or will it come with the fulfilment of the Religious Rig...
I posted this in my thread on Socratic Philosophy. Since many of the same issues have come up in both thread I am posting it here as well: An essentia...
An essential key to understanding the Republic is to understand the role of the dual position of opinion. It opines both what is below being and above...
No. I was referring specifically to what you said. The credibility of history books in general is not dependant on any one or group of books in partic...
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