In response to @"Wayfarer" and the conventional view of the arguments, I would like to briefly go through the arguments and show why they fail. Before...
In this case he did more than just turn it around. Simmias' argument did not include a separate soul. Socrates does not deal with Simmias' argument be...
Socrates himself is never persuaded by conventional views. If you have followed the arguments yourself and found them convincing and do not think my a...
I agree. It does not seem likely that any of these things are occurring to him for the first time. I think the whole thing is rhetorical. Persuading h...
I quoted this same passage in response to your question about what Socrates believes: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/569248 I think...
There are three issues under discussion with regard to Simmias' or the Pythagorean argument for attunement. 1) Simmias' argument 2) Socrates' refutati...
That is not Simmias' argument. Note the following: By "we take" he means the Pythagoreans. That is not what Simmias' argument says. And according to S...
It does. Once again This is the same thing he said in the Apology: The problem that must be faced in the Phaedo is fear of death. One has it within th...
See the following: He goes on tho say: Saying that he would be well of believing it is true in case it happens to be true is quite different than sayi...
Yup. Note that in the middle of the dialogue is the problem of misologic. At 107b Socrates tells them to keep investigating, to not be content with th...
I suppose it is possible but very difficult to make it through while maintaining the belief that you have all the answers. This is a valuable lesson. ...
No, I don't think it is a principle of unity but a physical unity (86c). This answer is rejected, as Simmias points out, because it means that the des...
Given your concern with division I would think you would make a distinction between the different strangers in the dialogues, terminology that is in o...
All of this comes down to the extremely uninteresting claim that he believes God exists. That God does exist has not and cannot be demonstrated, and s...
I think it is not so much that daily life is so restrictive as that on social media there is little or no restrictions. Who you are can be whoever you...
As I see it, there are opposing extremes. On the one hand, those who are intolerant of deviation from what they regard as the norm, and on the other, ...
That is not at odds with the Socratic way. It is, rather, part of it, what he calls the "examined life". It includes an examination of what you want i...
You got Socrates all wrong. Instincts say - I want to procreate. Logic follows - ok, but don't try to procreate with just anyone who comes along. Sinc...
Quite the opposite! It would be helpful if you would be more specific regarding who you are addressing what you are commenting on. As I said above: Th...
You don't. On the one hand, by dividing Socrates into two, body and soul, Socrates himself cannot be found. On the other hand, the arguments for an im...
The harmony is the tuning. The analogy with the lyre is with a lyre that is tuned (86a), not a lyre that needs to be tuned. The organic body is an arr...
All of what? 1) I pointed to an ambiguity that as far as I can tell you did not address. 2) I said this ambiguity was ironic. 3) I mentioned a few way...
It is not that "self-hood" is the theme. In the specific sense what is at issue is what will happen to Socrates, and more broadly what happens to us w...
I am not sure if this is intended as a criticism of what I said or if what I said is being pointed to in support of your claim about how we speak or t...
The dialogue opens: And in response: The dialogue is about what happens to oneself, or, more narrowly, Socrates himself. The question “what counts as ...
I don't want to get too far off topic but there is 'just temperament or intonation', 'equal temperament or intonation'. With fretted instruments such ...
I think Vogt is right in saying that there is a difference between true belief and knowledge. I don't know the context in which belief is said to be s...
It is not insignificant that all the arguments for the immortality of the soul fail.The reason is simple. No one knows what happens when we die. But t...
I think the whole thing is an image and is identified as such. I don't think we transcend opinion when it comes to matters of the just, the beautiful,...
He is part of that tradition is the sense that he influenced their thinking, but this does not mean he would agree with them, especially not with Aqui...
I don't want to turn this into a second discussion of the Phaedo, so I will only say a couple of things. Further discussion I hope will occur in the P...
In Parmenides and Sophist Plato makes distinctions between several meanings of 'not being'. With regard to this discussion there is: What in no way is...
No. The distinction is between 'one' as in what someone might think or say or do (see how often he says "one must" in the passages above) and 'one' or...
Kant's concept is unitary. The 'I' is for Nietzsche a multiplicity. "ONE thinks" In my opinion, this multiplies that problem because we must now provi...
Socrates makes an ironical comment about Cebes: It is ironic because this in the opposite of what Cebes does. He simply accepts whatever argument Socr...
If you have not already done so, it would be helpful to identify the source of the quotes. They are from Beyond Good and Evil 16-17. ONE thinks; but t...
My reading of the dialogue is that the Forms are hypothetical, the way Socrates arranges the world in order to make sense of it. That the world is and...
The reminds me of the story of Zhuangzi's butcher, cook Ting, whose knife never dulls because he cuts between the joints of the oxen, that is, accordi...
When reading Plato’s dialogues it is important to keep in mind who he is talking to and what the circumstances are. Socrates says that under the circu...
Simmias' argument begins here: All of Socrates' arguments are about Forms or Kinds, which Wayfarer calls universals: Let's look at the arguments at 93...
It is not that they have no opposite but that they cannot "accept" or "allow" or combine with their opposite. Yes, that is true of all the Forms excep...
His argument is that Harmony is a universal. What is at issue is the difference between the universal and particular. Harmony itself is prior to any p...
It is worth noting that the dialogue is named after a person, Lysis, rather than the topic, friendship. In short, what is at issue here as in other di...
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