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here Remembering how things looked is a kind of experience. That's correct.

That's not the explanation for the grey strawberries illusion (if it was meant to be.) Your brain is actually generating the experience of redness wit...

What do you mean when you agree that the strawberries look red? What does it mean for a thing to have an appearance?

Would you say that the word 'proposition' is being used in this thread the same way Witt used it?

Yep. Sometimes grey strawberries look red.

The grey strawberries illusion shows that ”red” doesn't line up with some portion of the em spectrum.

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You're probably right.

Cool. So later, while the child is playing with toy soldiers (as all american children do), her brother asks for the red soldier. Now it works in reve...

I imagine it's partly mimicking speech, before understanding much of it, then moments of positive and negative feedback. I think all of this would com...

She learns that the word is an abstraction?

She just needs to associate the word with something. What do you think that something is?

They need to associate the word with something.

How is the kid aware of this firing?

Yes, liberals need states to protect property rights. Neoliberalism is a doctrine that's very hostile to labor solidarity. Globalization successfully ...

I have a question. If a person believes redness is essentially a linguistic trick, how does that work? If the toddler sees someone point to an apple a...

It's insane. That would be much appreciated.

Especially if it's carnal knowledge.

Cool. I bought it.

I think the grey strawberries illusion demonstrates that.

True. Since I read David Harvey's book, I've struggled to put the pieces together. I thought we should look at large scale events as fusions of divers...

Grey strawberries: https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/708/db2/57b854759fc25f8f5d6fa6b2a3caa6e2dd-28-no-red-photo.2x.rsquare.w700.jpg

If the US does nothing, that will invite more of the same. I hope the US does nothing.

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I wasn't suggesting that.

Sorry, I misunderstood. I thought you were drawing an unspoken conclusion based on the notion that we might be secretly wired differently.

Ah, I see. You're suggesting that the universe is alive and conscious of itself, at least some of the debris on the surface of this planet is. Pretty ...

Strictly speaking, if you want to assert that mind is physical, you need to explain mind. Your audience doesn't need to show anything. I saw an articl...

Maybe in the future there will be mind-o-vision technology so we can put your experience up on a monitor and tell when this sort of thing is happening...

@"Pfhorrest" I think religion will win in the end, irrational as it is.

@"Pfhorrest" You said: "I’m very pleased to see a professional like him touting the right ends, especially after all the pushback I’ve gotten on this ...

Like event horizon. Thought horizon... No? Ok. :up:

Thought ends at your skin? I don't know how thought works. I don't have any strong metaphysical bias to lean me in one direction or another. I just li...

So your skin is a thought horizon ?

Does your body count as external?

Sorry, I wasn't likening them. I'm just guessing that redness is hardwired. As I said, the memory of seeing red probably depends on language use. The ...

If you would have answered, you would have seen the contradiction open up. Too bad.

And if those are walls of the same house, how do we know about this kind of house?

But how would we know there are language games if there's no vantage point beyond them? Nothing to compare them to?

Innately. If you and I are looking at a chair, are their two chairs? One for each of us?

I think there may two overlapping aspects to experience. One is direct and lacking clear boundaries between me and other. The other is rational, refle...

You're including qualia as part of the meaning of "conscious." That's a common usage, but we can also distinguish between functional consciousness, li...

Chalmers acknowledges that science has the challenge of explaining consciousness. That's kind of the whole point of the hard problem. Philosophy of mi...

It only has to be metaphysically possible, (as opposed to physically possible) to do the work it's intended to do. It clearly is.

I think the point was that when we explore the metaphor of the house, it turns out that it doesn't work. The house of justified beliefs is apparently ...

They're having to make a really tough decision in a short amount of time with limited data. If 1/million people die from this vaccine (which happens t...

"UK authorities also concluded the benefits outweighed the risks in most age groups, but presented data that showed the benefits to people under 30 on...

"At the core of all well-founded belief lies belief that is unfounded.". --W in OC Exactly.

:up: I have a feeling the prevalence numbers will rise now that we know about the link. AZ is probably re-analyzing their data with the link in mind. ...