I wanted to start this thread, but considering my history it would be a bit too self-indulgent.
For you:
:D. Love it.
This is a song I come back to every now and then. It's about how there are multiple words surrounding you at all times. I first heard it on one of the first alternative stations. This station had trouble paying its bills so it disappeared from time to time.. Don't look at the video.. just listen to the song.. if you want to come closer to what it's like in my world :)
What song would you pick to say something about the world where you spend most of your time?
[i]Never been near a university,
Never took a paper or a learned degree,
And some of your friends think that's stupid of me,
But it's nothing that I care about.
Well I don't know how to tell the weight of the sun,
And of mathematics well I want none,
And I may be the Mayor of Simpleton,
But I know one thing,
And that's I love you.
When their logic grows cold and all thinking gets done,
You'll be warm in the arms of the Mayor of Simpleton.
I can't have been there when brains were handed round
(Please be upstanding for the Mayor of Simpleton),
Or get past the cover of your books profound,
(Please be upstanding for the Mayor of Simpleton),
And some of your friends thinks it's really unsound,
That you're even seen talking to me.
Well I don't know how to write a big hit song,
And all crossword puzzles well I just shun,
And I may be the Mayor of Simpleton,
But I know one thing,
And that's I love you.
I'm not proud of the fact that I never learned much,
Just feel I should say,
What you get is all real,
I can't put on an act,
It takes brains to do that anyway. (And anyway...)
And I can't unravel riddles, problems and puns,
And the home computer has me on the run,
And I may be the Mayor of Simpleton,
But I know one thing,
And that's I love you (I love you).
If depth of feeling is a currency,
(Please be upstanding for the Mayor of Simpleton),
Then I'm the man who grew the money tree,
(No Chain of Office and no hope of getting one).
Some of your friends are too brainy to see,
That they're paupers and that's how they'll stay.
Well I don't know how many pounds make up a ton,
Of all the Nobel prizes that I've never won,
And I may be the Mayor of Simpleton,
But I know one thing,
And that's I love you.
When all logic grows cold and all thinking gets done,
You'll be warm in the arms of the Mayor of Simpleton.
You'll be warm in the arms of the Mayor of Simpleton.
You'll be warm in the arms of the Mayor.
(Please be upstanding for the Mayor of Simpleton.)
Songwriters: PARTRIDGE, ANDY[/i]
Thanks Andy!!!
Meow!
GREG
Mayor of SimpletonOctober 30, 2015 at 20:18#18520 likes
I'll try again, since the last time I linked my video in the wrong thread:
This is a song by a friend of mine about house hunting around the northern suburbs of Melbourne, where we live. The video is shot around that part of town too.
This probably won't appeal to black metal guys, but who knows? Classical Tracks on MN Public Radio this morning featured Louise Dubin, The Franchomme Project (Delos), a disk of rediscovered music by a 19th century cellist and composer. August Franchomme was an orchestral cellist and a chamber musician. He played in the orchestras of all three Parisian opera houses; he was a teacher; and he was appointed solo cellist to the King in 1832. See, I'd like to have a solo cellist on hand too.
Anyway, this disk of Franchomme's music can be heard at Minnesota Public Radio (for a limited time). Or, try this:
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I" and "The Catcher in the Rye"
Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it...
Mayor of SimpletonNovember 20, 2015 at 16:26#37630 likes
I was sitting, on the roof of my house
With a shotgun
And a six pack of beers, six pack of beers, six pack of beers.
The newscaster says, "The enemy is among us"
As bombs explode on the 30 bus,
Kill your middle class indecision,
Now is not the time for liberal thought,
So I go hunting for witches
I go hunting for witches
Heads are going to roll
I go hunting for..
... I was an ordinary man with ordinary desires
I watched TV, it informed me
I was an ordinary man with ordinary desires
There must be accountability
Disparate and misinformed
Fear will keep us all in place
So I go hunting for witches
I go hunting for witches
Heads are going to roll
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 05, 2015 at 21:37#47830 likes
Finding out that Medicare and Medicade will drain my Dad of his last dollar before he will be eligible for Skilled nursing.
"Looks like we are in for stormy weather, that ain't no cause to leave, just lie here in my arms, let it wash away the pain, and it feels like rain, it feels like rain...can you feel it?"
ArguingWAristotleTiffDecember 05, 2015 at 22:29#47910 likes
images upload
I tried but the link is just not working for me.
La Seine est aventureuse
De Châtillon à Méry,
Et son humeur voyageuse
Flâne à travers le pays...
Elle se fait langoureuse
De Juvisy à Choisy
Pour aborder, l'âme heureuse,
L'amoureux qu'elle a choisi!
Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Dès qu'elle entre dans Paris!
Elle s'enroule, roule, roule
Autour de ses quais fleuris!
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chante le jour et la nuit,
Car la Seine est une amante
Et son amant c'est Paris!
Elle traîne d'île en île,
Caressant le Vieux Paris,
Elle ouvre ses bras dociles
Au sourire du roi Henri...
Indifférente aux édiles
De la mairie de Paris,
Elle court vers les idylles
Des amants des Tuileries!
Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Du Pont-Neuf jusqu'à Passy!
Elle est soûle, soûle, soûle
Au souvenir de Bercy!
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chante le jour et la nuit...
Si sa marche est zigzaguante
C'est qu'elle est grise à Paris!
Mais la Seine est paresseuse,
En passant près de Neuilly,
Ah! comme elle est malheureuse
De quitter son bel ami!
Dans une étreinte amoureuse
Elle enlace encore Paris,
Pour lui laisser, généreuse,
Une boucle... à Saint-Denis!
Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Sa complainte dans la nuit...
Elle roule, roule, roule
Vers la mer où tout finit...
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chante l'amour de Paris!
Car la Seine est une amante
Et Paris dort dans son lit!
I enjoy listening to the soundtracks of movies and video games. One of my favorite soundtracks comes from a game that is by far one of the most compelling and immersive games I have had the pleasure of playing, The Last of Us. It is a masterpiece, and the music behind it is equally beautiful.
I was out in the streets early this morning searching for bagatelles. Sometimes one needs relief immediately. I discovered a luscious one lurking in the doorway of a modest brick colonial.
'Twisted Road' off Neil's Psychedelic Pill album. ('Let the Good Times Roll')
First time I heard 'Like A Rolling Stone'
I felt that magic and took it home
Gave it a twist and made it mine
But nothing was as good as the very first time
Poetry rolling off his tongue
Like Hank Williams chewing bubble gum
Asking me 'how does it feel'?
[i]It's a pretty good crowd for a Saturday
And the manager gives me a smile
cause he knows that its me they've been comin' to see
To forget about life for a while
And the piano, it sounds like a carnival
And the microphone smells like a beer
And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar
And say, man, what are you doin' here?[/i]
ArguingWAristotleTiffMay 12, 2016 at 12:56#117070 likes
Imus in the Morning out of New York and Texas! Same show for the last 33 years!
(L) That man. It is my first dose of sarcasm and bullshit to start the day with! 8-)
I fucking hate Dream Theater, and anything that reminds me of them no matter how wacky it is!
The Great WhateverJune 16, 2016 at 22:28#130400 likes
Reply to John Nothing here resembles Dream Theater too much to me at least. But I agree, they've become drenched in low fat syrup and are hard to stomach. Early DT had some serious cred though, when they were trying to be Queensryche and Fates Warning.
I laughed out loud when this song played at the "shocking" end of a Game of Thrones episode. The juxtaposition was awesome and hilarious. The song ain't bad either.
When I was young, I cast aside the shadows of my youth
And I lifted up my eyes to the skies
I spread my wings, I sailed the seven seas
For Glory and all that it seemed
And through my love, I passed inside the hallows of my heart
And I lifted up my cries to the heights
But no one cared, No one even dared
And Glory evaded my dreams
Now I tell you this tale, this story
When I set my own sails for my dreams
In the Author of Life I found Glory
And the honor and power of my King
Now in my age, I've looked beyond horizons of the past
And I realized that fame was but a thing
I wrote my score, I wanted even more
And Glory said "No" to my theme
Now I tell you this tale, this story
When I set my own sails for my dreams
In the Author of Life I found Glory
And the honor and power of my King
Now I tell you this tale, this story
When I set my own sails for my dreams
In the Author of Life I found Glory
And the honor and power of my King
And the honor and power of my King
Such an amazing psychological thriller. I really liked the nod to Fight Club.
ArguingWAristotleTiffJune 30, 2016 at 13:49#136890 likes
Mr. Robot is one of the coolest shows but one of the creepiest as well. :s
I spend too much time looking thru the slats in my fingers covering my eyes to enjoy the show.
The Great WhateverJuly 13, 2016 at 20:37#139190 likes
Reply to Thorongil Power metal gets a bad rap because of the legions of copycat bands in Europe and South America, but a lot of it's pretty solid. Breitenhold is dedicated to reproducing the sound of early Blind Guardian, which was one of the better acts (still good now, but too pompous for my tastes).
There's some really good power stuff, but I think a lot of it wouldn't be considered power metal by today's standards because the genre has changed so much.
Reply to The Great Whatever I've tried listening to power metal, but to this day still can't get into it. It's simply too cheesy, and in a bad way. I mentioned Falconer, but even they are not pure power metal, and I only have a handful of songs I like from them, like the muscular sounding one I linked above. Have you explored much in the other genres of metal?
The Great WhateverJuly 13, 2016 at 22:29#139230 likes
Reply to Thorongil Yes, I was a huge metalhead back in the day, I liked traditional doom, USPM, NWoBHM, a little thrash and death, and especially the classic 'speed metal' sound. Later on I listened to a ton of prog metal, and largely stopped listening to metal b/c I became more interested in prog rock then jazz fusion then jazz. Lately I'm coming back to it and my tastes are becoming more traditional, digging the old power stuff, or straight up hard rock / heavy metal, even moving back a little bit into the blues rock and folk music that underlies it.
If you like muscular power metal, you could check out the older stuff like Agent Steel, Liege Lord and Jag Panzer. But they are a little rougher around the edges than Falconer, kind of like cult versions of Judas Priest.
I agree about the cheesiness, but maybe less so now -- cheesiness is a state of mind, and the feeling of it goes away once you occupy the tradition from within.
Reply to The Great Whatever I do like speed metal a lot, although not so much the bands you mentioned. My all time favorite is probably Running Wild. It might not be to your tastes at first, but I would encourage you to explore black and death metal.
The Great WhateverJuly 14, 2016 at 01:10#139290 likes
Reply to Thorongil I actually have a soft spot for Running Wild, Black Hand Inn was one of the albums that made me appreciate metal. It's sort of a shame what happened to them. I've always liked more traditional death metal, and a little bit of techy stuff, but black metal is a little hard for me -- I find the constant single-note tremolo picking and double bass drumming a little tedious, and it seems to focus more on atmosphere than songwriting at times. I really love the vocal style, though, it's really a cultural achievement. There's some symphonic black stuff like early Arcturus that is a little easier to swallow for me.
Reply to The Great Whatever Pretty much all of the early albums down to Black Hand Inn are masterpieces of speed metal. They blow Iron Maiden out of the water too, in my opinion. When Rolf started composing boring hard rock and using that stupid drum machine, things went downhill, but I'm actually somewhat optimistic about the upcoming album. He's supposedly got a real drummer on it.
The "wall of sound" to create an atmosphere is deliberate in black metal and certainly takes some getting used to, but I love it. I play in a bedroom black metal band with my brother and we're in the midst of trying to record some stuff now. If you want, I could send you a link in a PM when it's done. I'd love to hear what someone who's metal-literate thinks of it.
Pretty much all of the early albums down to Black Hand Inn are masterpieces of speed metal.
Yeah, they have a very recognizable and likable sound. Actually, there is a Running Wild tribute band called Blazon Stone, which instead of playing Running Wild covers, just makes new songs in the band's style. They're not bad. I'm also looking forward to the new album! Even thinking you can do metal without a drummer is ludicrous IMO, it's a real dealbreaker.
The "wall of sound" to create an atmosphere is deliberate in black metal and certainly takes some getting used to, but I love it. I play in a bedroom black metal band with my brother and we're in the midst of trying to record some stuff now. If you want, I could send you a link in a PM when it's done. I'd love to hear what someone who's metal-literate thinks about it.
Yeah, for sure. I don't really know that much about black metal, though. But I'd love to hear it.
The Great WhateverJuly 14, 2016 at 16:17#139510 likes
[Verse 2]
When choice became the people's voice
Shout loud
Put your hands up in the crowd
Raise your fist up (fist up)
While I lift up (lift up)
Fucking everything wrong with the system (system)
People hungry and dyin'
They ain't got a home
This is the nature created
From the terrordome (terrordome)
Let's turn the page
Shaman burn the sage
Clear the way for the prophets of rage
Can you kick it like
Twisted minds that work as one,
They plot your destiny.
You stand and watch your only son,
Deprived of dignity.
Contempt and hatred all you feel,
Devoted loyalty.
A wound you know will never heal.
Doubting integrity.
You sent him out to pay the price.
Did what you thought was best.
You sent him out to be a man.
Almost laid to rest.
Unseen powers that deal the cards,
Faceless homicide.
A bitter rage you can't reveal,
Because of stupid pride.
What you want ain't always good for you.
It;s just the way the balance swings for you,
Balance swings for you.
Have no conscience, feel no pain,
All you need's a flag.
No glory now, the switch is made,
Uniform to body bag.
But after all, did you see the truth?
Find the real war?
What you want ain't always good for you.
No cause worth dying for.
What you want...
Yeah, I have to say that's pretty good. I haven't heard this vocalist before, he's more palatable than LaBrie, and it's LaBrie's vocals and the gratuitously flashy lead guitar work that spoil the whole DT experience for me .
I really don't like Images and Words any more (although I still have it on the shelves I have only listened to it once or twice in the last eight years); and it is considered to be their greatest album.
The Great WhateverJuly 27, 2016 at 10:17#144810 likes
Reply to John I prefer the super early sound, but Images and Words is still good in the sense that it just has really good songwriting. If you don't like that early-90's aesthetic, though, there's just no getting around it. Wait for Sleep and Surrounded are examples of DT tracks with no flash at all, and they're impeccable. And even the stuff with more guitar soloing like Under a Glass Moon or Metropolis are pretty carefully composed.
That's as far as I'm willing to defend them, though...even Awake, which a lot of people like, IMO has some outright bad stuff. And after that all bets are off.
The Great WhateverJuly 27, 2016 at 10:24#144820 likes
Here's an example of the early 90s prog metal aesthetic developed right around the same time DT was making Images and Words. Very very similar style, but I prefer it. Still not crazy about the keyboard sounds in this era, or in general the way everything was produced.
How metal is Hieronymus Bosch's "The Garden of Earthly Delights"? Here's a fantasy metal version of the 500 Year Old Butt Song from Hell, based on the recent transcription of the music written on some guy's butt.
Ooh, oooh, oooh, ooh
I'm sure we're taller in another dimension
You say we're smaller and not worth the mention
You’re tired of movin', your body’s achin'
We could vacay, there's places to go
Clearly this isn't all that there is
Can't take what's been given
But we're so okay here, we're doing fine
I'm up and naked
You dream of walls that hold us in prison
It's just a scar, at least that's what they call it
And we're free to fall
Usually, I haven't been listening to anything "right now" when I am on here. But I have just, right now, been listening to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJqem6ek4CI
And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg1jyL3cr60
With all your head banging and otherwise nonsense songs devoid of sentimentality, here's what I'm listening to, about someone I thought I knew:
"Little Wing"
Well, she's walking through the clouds,
With a circus mind that's running wild,
Butterflies and Zebras,
And Moonbeams and fairy tales.
That's all she ever thinks about.
Riding with the wind.
When I'm sad, she comes to me,
With a thousand smiles she gives to me free.
It's alright, she says it's alright,
Take anything you want from me,
Anything.
Fly on little wing.
Well for people our age, although I keep hearing something about playlists. I haven't tried one yet. But yes 6music is more established and recognised now.
You know what repetition is about right? How all songs do it? When you pay attention to the same thing over, and over, and over, and over and over you'll notice that it becomes nearly impossible to pay any attention to it whatsoever, until eventually bam, it becomes unfamiliar and brand new.
Making my way through my first play through of the Witcher 3. Out of all the locations, Velen has got to be my favorite. The music especially is just amazing. Matches the atmosphere of a war-ravaged land perfectly.
The Great WhateverNovember 20, 2016 at 18:46#342480 likes
Reply to Thorongil Yeah, I have one of their albums. I listen to a lot of heavy rhythmic instrumental rock generally, but the 'djent' wave sort of passed me by, and I think they're sort of in that camp. It's good. More hungry for keys recently.
The many varieties in the style of Psybient or Psychill. A little more mellow than Psytrance, very engaging. Here's a site (Psybient Grove) with lots of good compilations:
Regardless of the superstitious nonsense, Simone gives an impressive musical (and felt) performance. The only "power" is the music itself. Such is music, and Simone's got it.
Reply to jorndoe Thanks, nice version, some good improvisation and the last two minutes are sweet. But the Winterland version is my favourite, tight and heavy. I've got it on vinyl, so no worries.
I'm buying a soprano sax soon, so I've been watching soprano sax stuff on youtube, and I came across this from The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, which almost brought a tear to my eye. Probably the last time I played a video game.
Terrapin StationDecember 09, 2016 at 14:26#377250 likes
Christmas music. Aside from work (I work as a musician), I exclusively listen to Christmas music from Black Friday (the day after Thanksgiving in the U.S.) through New Year's Day.
Do you listen to any Tropicalia? I just picked up some Tom Ze.
Here is a video of Gilberto Gil, Tom Ze, and Caetano Veloso singing Veloso's sublime song "Tropicalia" in 1997. A little choppy, but one of the rare videos of the three founders of the movement on stage together.
The Great WhateverDecember 22, 2016 at 06:51#403650 likes
In 1988, Fates Warning brought the long-form rock medley, adopted in prog rock for over 15 years, to metal. It has been a staple of so-called progressive metal ever since.
The Ivory Gate of Dreams is that gate through which, in Greek mythology, false visions enter one's mind while asleep. The song of the same title is a sometimes haunting, sometimes harrowing meditation on willful sleep, ignoring reality, and awakening to harsh truths. It combines elements of US power metal, early tech thrash like Watchtower, and the budding sounds of progressive metal pioneered in the US by early Fates Warning itself, Queensryche, and Dream Theater. Its acrobatic vocal melodies and guitar lines twist to elicit an odd, otherworldly soulfulness, and its crushing atmosphere sometimes prefigures progressive death metal acts like Opeth that would arise in the coming years.
With exception to Question and Darthbarracuda, all your music tastes stink.
Yes, we p-zombies have terrible taste in music! Sometimes we will listen to a broken radiator rattling for hours and wonder why no one has used it in a song. But p-zombies being very obedient and docile, we eagerly await to be enlightened by your list of bitchin' tunes to groove to. 8-)
This thing of beauty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_jwv2QMtAo
Amen, I would of thought there would be more classical heads on here as philosophy usually is paired with the interests of the intelligent/aristocratic. Can't fucking stand rock, that shit should of died in the 80s.
This is proven scientifically to be the most relaxing song in the world (statistically) and has been found to reduce up to 65% of peoples anxiety in neurological scans:
lime green zesty citrusDecember 25, 2016 at 20:34#411240 likes
I am listening to the radio but I have been listening to White Noise quite a lot over the christmas period I like white noise purple and feeling very low and you can't hear it or when there's a lot of noise around you very very soothing.
I'm listening to that high pitched sound in your head when it's almost completely silent around you. What is that shit, your nervous system or something?
Reply to Noble Dust It's called tinnitus and it affects 10-15% of people. I used to go to heavy metal concerts and I was used to the ringing in my ears afterwards. Usually it would fade away after a day or two, but one time it didn't fade away completely, and I've had it ever since.
Reply to jamalrob Tinnitus is hell. My greatest nightmare. I saw a documentary where a woman committed suicide (with professional assistance) because the suffering was unbearable.
I occasionally go to dance parties, and I won't enter without these:
Could be a mild case of it, I'm an audio engineer, but I was more referring to anechoic chambers where supposedly you can hear the sound of your nervous system because it's so quiet :-O may very well just be bullshit! I think I heard that in a music course in college...which doesn't mean it's not bullshit...
Could be a mild case of it, I'm an audio engineer, but I was more referring to anechoic chambers where supposedly you can hear the sound of your nervous system because it's so quiet
A true fact .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otoacoustic_emission
Spontaneous otoacoustic emissions (SOAE)s are sounds that are emitted from the ear without external stimulation and are measurable with sensitive microphones in the external ear canal. ... The relationships between otoacoustic emissions and tinnitus have been explored. Several studies suggest that in about 6% to 12% of normal-hearing persons with tinnitus and SOAEs, the SOAEs are at least partly responsible for the tinnitus.
Could be a mild case of it, I'm an audio engineer, but I was more referring to anechoic chambers where supposedly you can hear the sound of your nervous system because it's so quiet :-O may very well just be bullshit! I think I heard that in a music course in college...which doesn't mean it's not bullshit...
I did wonder if that's what you meant, because I'd heard the story that John Cage tells about one of his inspirations for creating 4'33":
"It was after I got to Boston that I went into the anechoic chamber at Harvard University. Anybody who knows me knows this story. I am constantly telling it. Anyway, in that silent room, I heard two sounds, one high and one low. Afterward I asked the engineer in charge why, if the room was so silent, I had heard two sounds. He said, 'Describe them.' I did. He said, 'The high one was your nervous system in operation. The low one was your blood in circulation.' "
But according to others this is impossible, and he could have just been hearing tinnitus.
I'm a fan, too. They're maybe top 30ish for me . . . at least in my top 50. (I'm a fan of hundreds and hundreds of artists.) I've actually seen Rush at least once on every tour since they were supporting their very first album. The first few times I saw them they were supporting other artists--Uriah Heep the first time, then KISS, then Ted Nugent.
Closest I've been to going to a concert was watching Our Lady Peace on one of the big screens on the side walk beside the concert area in Halifax. It was a rainy day, and few people were there, and they were hardly giving it their all. So the lead singer climbed the stage, saying that he wanted to see who all was there, and then spotted us on the street, like thirty people probably, and said "hey guys watching for free", and we were all like "hey!", and waved back.
Terrapin StationJanuary 17, 2017 at 20:27#476420 likes
So the lead singer climbed the stage, saying that he wanted to see who all was there, and then spotted us on the street, like thirty people probably, and said "hey guys watching for free", and we were all like "hey!", and waved back.
Haha
Geez, it's difficult for me to imagine having never been to a concert. I've not only been to many hundreds, going all the way back to 1968, but I've played hundreds, going all the way back to 1974.
I was lucky to eat growing up, let alone go to concerts. Rise Against, probably my fav band comes through Edmonton once in awhile, I plan to see them sometime.
I bought concert tickets to one of the festivals last year, but my date stood me up, and the tickets are still in my glove box.
I was lucky to eat growing up, let alone go to concerts.
Well, in my case, it helps that when I was a kid, concerts were like $5 or so. Even in the mid to late 70s--1976-1977, say, concert tickets were still only $11-12. Of course, that was worth a bit more back then, but it's still under $50 in today's dollars.
Lorn has developed tendrils that have wound their way down into the depths of my psyche. I think I should probably notify the NSA, but I don't know if it still exists. Rone too.
Pierre-NormandFebruary 11, 2017 at 07:59#544150 likes
Bach, cantata BWV 125, Mit Fried und Freud ich fahr dahin,
Bach Collegium Japan, Masaaki Suzuki.
I'm just cycling through the whole cantata set. It's a seemingly endless collection of stunning masterpieces (as is almost everything else Bach composed).
Haha that's a good romantic song, but not my favorite. This is my favorite...
Followed quickly by a few italian ones from Umberto Tozzi, Celentano, etc.
Haha, so Eurovision :P But listen, if you want to woo a girl then perhaps that song might just do the trick. But, if you want to woo a real woman with a mojo, then I would suggest never, I mean never ever ever ever, dedicate that song to her, mkay. Though not necessarily my taste, if you need a pop-like song with a bit more sexual sophistication, then perhaps try:
Reply to TimeLine I mean, especially if she has this Mojo...
You don't really wanna meet that guy now, no? I mean if he grabs you with those sharp claws or teeth... :-x
I listen to this when releasing my anger at the gym and thinking about people I don't like. :-} I am a fluffy person, I assure you, except... when at the gym. Actually, awesome lyrics.
I love the whole concept of this song. A catchy experimental beat with such mediocre cringe-worthy lyrics that perfectly convey the meaning of apathy towards the whole project. A perfect example of people making art exclusively for themselves.
The song that got me into philosophy. I don't think there will ever come a point in my life where these lyrics specifically won't resonate with me.
"Some people think
That if they go too far
They'll never get back
To where the rest of
Them are
I might be crazy
But there's one thing
I know
You might be surprised
At what you find
When ya go!
If you been
Mod-o-fied,
It's an illusion,
An yer in between
Don't you be
Tarot-fied,
It's just a lot of nothin',
So what can it mean?"
It's funny how some musicians you wouldn't really listen to tend to be amazing in concert. When I saw Gotye before he became famous many years back, he was totally awesome in this dodgy little hotel in Melbourne where I saw him with only twenty or so people there. I saw Jose Gonzales when I was in Sweden and he was INCREDIBLE. This became one of my favourite songs of all time.
hyena in petticoatMarch 31, 2017 at 12:48#637600 likes
State Radio - Diner Song/ Right Me Up/ Riddle in London Town
Iration - Automatic/ Splintered Heart
Train - Play That Song
One Drop - Little Black Dress
Matisyahu - One Day/ King Without A Crown
Phoenix - Armistice
One of my young nephews asked me what I thought was really wild when I was his age, and I remembered the Mahavishnu Orchestra. I haven't been able to listen to them in the decades since - it's too dissonant, too dense and far too loud. But I found this track on Youtube - and it stacks up really well. The polyrythmics between Cobham and the soloists are amazing. (And McLaughlin just oozes charisma.)
Reply to Wayfarer Pretty cool. The problem I have with that stuff is not so much the dissonance, but all the bloody violin. The sound of the violin in jazz-rock is just...bad. To my ears, at least. I enjoyed the drums most of all in that particular track.
Reply to jamalrob I know what you mean. I have liked Jean Luc Ponty at times, but other times, I too get a bit tired of fusion violin. Nevertheless, stellar musicianship, I'm sure you'll agree.
Reply to Wayfarer Indeed. I'm a big Zappa fan and I've just realized that his album Hot Rats, featuring Jean Luc Ponty, may have helped to popularize jazz-rock violin in the first place. I do like that album, even including some of the violin bits.
I'll leave it up to you philosophers to seek out the other 3 movements to this piece, as it doesn't exist as a single video or a playlist on youtube. But begin here, and be sure to listen all the way through to the last section of the piece, since the final section absolutely transcends the rest of the piece in a totally unprecedented way. You should be able to easily click through youtube uploads of the rest of the piece; if not, use spotify to find Reich's "Works 1965-1995" album.
Reply to Noble Dust Have you listened to Arvo Pärt? I'm a giant fan and though I do like minimalist compositions, there is a certain technical texture that a composer needs to have to be able to produce a powerful experience despite the repetition and simplicity. Arvo is legendary, in my opinion. I haven't heard of Reich, but I will fish out the album online.
With this one, I feel like I am desperately reaching out to someone, but they are not there, and though it is heartbreaking, I still continue reaching out.
Oh god, you know Part, but not Reich? Sorry, I get emotional about these things. Part is wonderful; simply beautiful because of his fearlessness and the beauty of his music. But Reich is beautiful because he's a mathematician. And I'm literally the last person to appreciate that about a composer. The piece I just posted isn't the best intro, maybe check out his most well known piece, "Music For 18 Musicians". Just keep in mind that European minimalism tends to be way different than the downtown NYC scene oft the 60's - 80's. Euro minimalism is more classically tonal; American minimalism is more a reaction against atonalism.
Btw, I'm not familiar with Summa for Strings, but it's very nice.
Edit: and what you say about reaching out to someone but never connecting is very true because this piece seems to constantly elude the tonic (the home pitch). It's there, but only fleetingly.
Reply to Noble Dust There aren't many people in this world that can make me feel ashamed of myself. Admittingly, I never heard of him but the one piece you posted nevertheless piqued my interest, and though I do not know enough about his work that now renders further investigation, there is that minimalist freedom that I appreciate, though I am not sure what you mean when you say a reaction against atonality?
I was supposed to go to yoga class but you have ruined that prospect :-}
Oh please, don't let me make you feel ashamed. Sorry. It's more of a classic musician's response to another musician, than anything else ("oh god, you don't know that record?"). Forgive me, it was unnecessary.
Well...as to a reaction against atonality, I see guys like Arvo Part, John Tavener, and Michael Nyman as strictly European "sacred" minimalists, who write minimalist music that's literally more religious and in line with a mystical or specific religious line of thinking, and so by result their music is more "classical" in the sense that it's more informed by the hard classical composers who literally had to write music for the church, as in Bach, etc.
Steve Reich, Philip Glass, Terry Reilly, et al, are all American minimalists who grew up in an Academic setting where the venerated people were Schoenberg, Messiaen, etc. (ironically European) and I'll be biased here and include one of my favorite Messiaen pieces (granted I still can't find a slow enough version on youtube; search spotify for a version that's about 9 mins long):
So anyway, that's a less atonal Messiaen piece. But the more atonal tendencies of these early and mid-modern dudes are all exactly the thing that the American minimalists were rebelling against. One of Glass's earliest pieces is this unlistenable solo violin piece where the violin practically plays triads the whole time; I can't even remember what's it's called. But that's how bold the rebellion was. Reich himself said, in some interview that I saw at some point, that he "simply didn't want to make atonal music." He just wanted to "make tonal music".
I finally got through them [half way through Reich] - people should use xylophones more often but I won't indulge in commenting until I have finished listening. I am not entirely sure I agree that a complete denial of tradition can be coherently possible without some constraint of one's own creativity; in the case of Part, he literally is describing and creating his own experiences. Maybe yes, the assertion that one needs to break free from the pre-conditioned structure of classical language has its merits, but is that foundational structure coherently reducible? I'm not sure, I need to read more.
I'm not a musician, I've only just started learning the piano but I have always been a fan of classical music and decided to start exploring contemporary composers, so I appreciate the guidance. To be perfectly honest with you, I have difficulty with trippy analogues, I can even struggle with John M. Cage. I think it is more the synthetic rhythms that causes me to remain focused or conscious and that annoys me, but for abstract stuff, I recently got a chance to see Dan Yuhas when I was in Israel I thought it was a great experience.
I never indulged in Phillip Glass but I could see him creeping up on me on those days where I feel like I'm just sick of everything, but not exactly stressed or anxious, more like disappointed and tired, where you don't really want to talk neither do you want to shut off and just having him on my iPod as I wander around.
What most of us highly intelligent loners do; we come here to relax. And dude, there is no need to apologise. Passion is way more important than social etiquette. :P
I am not entirely sure I agree that a complete denial of tradition can be coherently possible without some constraint of one's own creativity;
Well, any denial of tradition includes an acknowledgement of tradition, in the same way that atheism includes an acknowledgement of theism, just by definition.
Maybe yes, the assertion that one needs to break free from the pre-conditioned structure of classical language has its merits, but is that foundational structure coherently reducible? I'm not sure, I need to read more.
I'm not sure why it being coherently reducible is important. Classical structure lead to atonality, and then minimalism rebelled, but maybe that rebellion was just the next logical step. I mean, atonality continued and continues, even now. But now minimalism is replaced by post-minimalism. Some examples:
John Adams, possibly my favorite post-minimalist composer. This piece is for two pianos. Not an easy duo to write for! Twenty fingers...
With post-minimalism, listen for the development of simple minimalist repetitive structure; the structure changes more quickly, but still seems to retain a certain logic.
I never indulged in Phillip Glass but I could see him creeping up on me on those days where I feel like I'm just sick of everything, but not exactly stressed or anxious, more like disappointed and tired, where you don't really want to talk neither do you want to shut off and just having him on my iPod as I wander around.
I actually think he's overrated, but I also do love his music, I just don't place him on the same level as Reich, or Cage or whatnot. I don't spend a bunch of time listening to him.
I'm not sure why it being coherently reducible is important. Classical structure lead to atonality, and then minimalism rebelled, but maybe that rebellion was just the next logical step. I mean, atonality continued and continues, even now. But now minimalism is replaced by post-minimalism. Some examples: John Adams, possibly my favorite post-minimalist composer. This piece is for two pianos. Not an easy duo to write for! Twenty fingers...
When I was in Florence a couple of years back, I went to a concert hidden in the backstreets where I was staying. I was - at the time - in an immeasurable amount of subjective pain and felt the pangs of a deep sorrow and there was probably a handful of people in this concert. When the quartet began playing "Dissonance" by Mozart, it was like a massive hand formed from the sounds and came over me as though it literally grabbed and took away all that pain.
When considering people like Arvo Part, the classical is and remains entrenched in European culture and so it should; it would be a lie in a way to disregard that influence and power. The suggestion of a complete abandonment of atonality to me seems somewhat impossible and there is a certain dishonesty about it that I am afraid becomes clear in some compositions, although I will agree that you correctly paint the picture of a gradual progression and ultimate change. The below is another one of my favourites, but you can sense the mixture between the slavic and the classical that makes Arvo Part well, Arvo Part. It makes him honest to himself through his music.
I wish there were more minimalist music with Cello. I love the Cello and I remember being told how much it would cost to buy one by a teacher at school. I could barely afford lunch at the time and it makes me wonder whether such music is really the sounds created by the privileged. But thanks for your intro in Reicht... ;)
it was like a massive hand formed from the sounds and came over me as though it literally grabbed and took away all that pain.
I don't want to disarm the potency of your experience here, but I had a similar experience when I was about 15. A feeling of a divine "hand" grabbing my whole being and silencing me, a hand that took my whole being into consideration and made things "right"...
the classical is and remains entrenched in European culture and so it should; it would be a lie in a way to disregard that influence and power. The suggestion of a complete abandonment of atonality to me seems somewhat impossible and there is a certain dishonesty about it that I am afraid becomes clear in some compositions, although I will agree that you correctly paint the picture of a gradual progression and ultimate change
Well, I don't know if the classical remains or should remain there; I think the American minimalists are enough to say otherwise. Now, I do personally agree with you when you talk about a complete abandonment of tonality. That complete abandonment does not meet with my own purely intuitive standards. And that's all I have to go on when it comes to tonality. That's the funny thing; I can wax poetic about whatever I happen to know or not know about tonality, minimalism, post-minimalism, etc, but when it coms down to it, if I don't personally like it, then it just doesn't matter. I don't ultimately give a shit unless it's dope. And a lot of contempo-classical is, decidedly, not dope.
I love the Cello and I remember being told how much it would cost to buy one by a teacher at school. I could barely afford lunch at the time and it makes me wonder whether such music is really the sounds created by the privileged.
Well...cellists themselves aren't exactly the privileged (my sister-in-law being an example); if anyone involved is privileged, I guess it would be the faculty who serve as the gate-keepers to cellists. But on the other hand, there's any number of talented cellists willing to play whatever's put in front of them, however, there's many fewer composers willing to write interesting music that involves the cello...so...
I don't want to disarm the potency of your experience here, but I had a similar experience when I was about 15. A feeling of a divine "hand" grabbing my whole being and silencing me, a hand that took my whole being into consideration and made things "right"...
I can wax poetic about whatever I happen to know or not know about tonality, minimalism, post-minimalism, etc, but when it coms down to it, if I don't personally like it, then it just doesn't matter. I don't ultimately give a shit unless it's dope. And a lot of contempo-classical is, decidedly, not dope.
Well...cellists themselves aren't exactly the privileged (my sister-in-law being an example); if anyone involved is privileged, I guess it would be the faculty who serve as the gate-keepers to cellists. But on the other hand, there's any number of talented cellists willing to play whatever's put in front of them, however, there's many fewer composers willing to write interesting music that involves the cello...so...
Yes, my housemate is an opera student and she has often asked for my advice on how to deal with what I view to be rather unique situations between students and the faculty, the latter having this puritan air that despises even the slightest deviation from the strict standards they impose that fails to be conducive to creativity with the remedy being a neurotic student cohort. I think it is really fearless of any composer to compose, let alone involving cello, let alone attempting to deviate from tonality.
Anyway, we've kind of taken over the thread... best stop for now. :D
Reply to Cavacava You are truly a nasty man. I got promoted at the worst time, need to finish the probationary period first so I had to stretch out the date. Urggg, man I can't wait!!! Drive around the Big Island, volcanoes and hiking up Mauna Kea, star gazing high above the clouds, lazying about Waikiki eating all the fruits I can get my hands on while listening to these types of songs (L) (L)
Rub up on my belly like its guava jelly... best lyrics ever!
It's from Tago Mago; a great album altogether. There's quite a playlist to follow on from 'Halleluwah' on that Youtube channel, featuring songs from several albums. My two favorite albums from Can are Ege Bamyasi and Tago Mago, and Future Days is great two. Actually most of their stuff is pretty good. I think Radiohead, for example, is influenced by Can, and for me Can beats Pink Floyd hands down. That Ravel piece you posted was awesome, by the way.
Ah, I did listen to Tago Mago once, I'll have to listen again. I really like Neu!'s first album, as well as Tangerine Dream's first album, which can be categorized as Krautrock. Kraftwerk's Ralf and Florian is also a hidden gem. Glad you like the Ravel. Here's more:
I just signed a contract, i'll officially be in a documentary about ISIS, refugees and the impact of war on children from the Mid East. They're sending me to Iraq early next year and back to Bethlehem where I currently work closely with refugee children. :-! I was going to Iran but they have refused a visa because I worked in Israel last year (how else am I supposed to get to the West Bank?)
ArguingWAristotleTiffMay 28, 2017 at 14:59#727480 likes
What happens when the singer of your Life's Anthem to be played at your celebration of life passes away?
I guess you turn the volume up louder, sing brighter and live the love out of life while we still have the chance~ Greg Allman may you rest in peace~ (L) Soulshine
The Great WhateverMay 30, 2017 at 02:09#730130 likes
Now this is a bit different is a late 60s concept album designed to be listened to start to finish on on a record. Ive never met anyone who'd heard of them before, so if you have let me know :D
First thing I remember was asking papa, why,
For there were many things I didn't know.
And daddy always smiled and took me by the hand,
Saying, someday you'll understand.
Well, I'm here to tell you now, each and every mother's son,
That you better learn it fast, you better learn it young,
'Cause someday never comes.
Right at this moment I'm listening to a song by Helix called "No Regret". Helix is merely an independent artist who published his work on newgrounds.com several years ago and I stumbled on them while just surfing the web.
Helix - No Regret
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/20812
Helix6 - The Collective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR0LQ1MJkYA
..below are a few other songs that I listen to when trying to tune out the rest of the world and either do work on my computer or just relax in general. They are mostly industrial/electronic in case anyone else on the forum is interested in that kind of stuff. Reply if you like and wish me to post other links. :D
Retractor - Sacred Law
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNVomiI-Kv4
INDUSTRIAL MEGAMIX: 2012 From DJ Dark Modulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0WActw9OpI
ArguingWAristotleTiffJuly 13, 2017 at 02:28#860500 likes
A million Quail, ten thousand finches, two competing packs of coyotes and the Santa Anna wind blowing through the leaves. It has a weird energy. Very unstable.
"Bank Robbery (Prologue)" from The Dark Knight soundtrack. Favorite movie, favorite film score. I usually listen to songs from all three soundtracks before bed.
Lately, the song "Now or Never" by very smart pop singer-songwriter Halsey is in constant rotation for me, too.
When I was in the third grade I thought that I was gay
'Cause I could draw, my uncle was, and I kept my room straight
I told my mom, tears rushing down my face
She's like "Ben you've loved girls since before Pre-K, trippin'."
Yeah, I guess she had a point, didn't she?
Bunch of stereotypes all in my head
I remember doing the math like, "Yeah, I'm good at little league."
A pre-conceived idea of what it all meant
For those that like the same sex
Had the characteristics
The right-wing conservatives think it's a decision
And you can be cured with some treatment and religion
Man-made rewiring of a pre-disposition
Playing God, aw nah here we go
America the brave still fears what we don't know
And "God loves all his children" is somehow forgotten
But we paraphrase a book written thirty-five-hundred years ago
I don't know
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
My love
My love
My love
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
If I was gay, I would think hip-hop hates me
Have you read the YouTube comments lately?
"Man, that's gay" gets dropped on the daily
We've become so numb to what we're saying
Our culture founded from oppression
Yet we don't have acceptance for 'em
Call each other faggots behind the keys of a message board
A word rooted in hate, yet our genre still ignores it
"Gay" is synonymous with the lesser
It's the same hate that's caused wars from religion
Gender to skin color, the complexion of your pigment
The same fight that led people to walk-outs and sit-ins
It's human rights for everybody, there is no difference
Live on and be yourself
When I was at church they taught me something else
If you preach hate at the service those words aren't anointed
That holy water that you soak in has been poisoned
When everyone else is more comfortable remaining voiceless
Rather than fighting for humans that have had their rights stolen
I might not be the same, but that's not important
No freedom 'til we're equal, damn right I support it
(I don't know)
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
My love
My love
My love
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
We press play, don't press pause
Progress, march on
With the veil over our eyes
We turn our back on the cause
'Til the day that my uncles can be united by law
When kids are walking 'round the hallway plagued by pain in their heart
A world so hateful some would rather die than be who they are
And a certificate on paper isn't gonna solve it all
But it's a damn good place to start
No law is gonna change us
We have to change us
Whatever God you believe in
We come from the same one
Strip away the fear
Underneath it's all the same love
About time that we raised up
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
My love
My love
My love
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
Love is patient
Love is kind
Love is patient
Love is kind
(Not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient
(Not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind
(I'm not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient
(Not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind
(I'm not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient
(Not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind
(I'm not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient
Love is kind
Through the dawning age
We go walking together
Toward the yawning grave
Braving dangers, we make our way
We'll leave our bones in the dust
An untold legend is lighting up
What if I was the last sight you ever saw?
Would you die with a smile on your face?
Well, don't even try to say you will
'Cause you'd hardly recognize the sight
Young are getting old and the summer is cold
And all the birds've been singing at night
When we're dead and gone
Will the mountains remember?
Or just carry on
Moving slow as the forest grows?
And turn our bones into dust
An untold legend is lighting up
When will I reach that light that I'm running to?
When I die will it turn out forever?
There's a fire burning inside of me
When I die will light burn out forever?
Well, don't even lie, I know it will, babe
'Cause the darkness doesn't need the light
All the young are getting old and the summer is cold
All the birds've been singing at night
Well, don't even try to save me, friend
'Cause I know it ain't worth the fight
All the young are getting old and the summer is cold
All the birds've been singing at night
As I was returning the company car that I have been using for work, I flicked the radio on and this played. They were one of my favourite bands in high school and I realised when I heard it again that I have ALWAYS been who I am. I am this way, I see the world differently and it has been with me since I was very young. Shit, what an epiphany.
Generally I drink a lot of coffee, but seeing as I have been having trouble I have been attempting to not eat or have within a good six hours of attempting to sleep. Luckily I don't work tonight, so I should be fine. I also managed to doze in and our for a good hour just a couple hours ago, so I feel better. I do want a coffee some bad though. I'll thinking of stopping attempting to force sleep, and just getting up, cleaning the house, doing some yoga, and then having a hot bath.
Hot baths often make me really relaxed.
Good song, by the by.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 19, 2017 at 22:43#1257350 likes
I'll thinking of stopping attempting to force sleep, and just getting up, cleaning the house, doing some yoga, and then having a hot bath.
Hot baths often make me really relaxed.
Good song, by the by.
Sounds like a lovely way to end conclude a weekend~
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 19, 2017 at 22:54#1257380 likes
Is it getting better or do you feel the same?
Does it make it easier on you now that you have got someone to blame?
You say one love, one life, it's one need in the night,
it's one love get to share in, it leaves you darling if you don't care for it...... Bono & and the Amazing Mary J. Blige
The days I work are always changed up, and I accepted full time, though was just doing part-time when I first started, but rarely get two days in a row off anymore the bastards. So I got home from work 7 this morning, get tonight off, and then work Monday through Thursday, and get Friday off.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 19, 2017 at 22:55#1257400 likes
That sounds grueling....
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 19, 2017 at 22:58#1257410 likes
Down hill the river meets the sea
and in the sticky heat I feel you open up to me
Love comes out of nowhere baby
Just like a Hurricane and it feels like rain..... Buddy Guy ......omg listen to him breathe
Meh, it isn't hard, just nights I thought would be good, because I'm a creature of the night, but forgot about all of the working in the sun on roofs for years, and then saying goodbye to the sun for months. That has been hard.
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 19, 2017 at 23:06#1257470 likes
I long for the days of seasonal change....here in Arizona it has been just one long bright hot summer. We never age....it's very confusing to my body when I come from Chicago where seasons are felt, not read on the thermometer. 8-)
ArguingWAristotleTiffNovember 19, 2017 at 23:12#1257490 likes
Man if this doesn't get you moving in your seat from the start I am not sure your alive! Sweet Home Chicago
Buddy Guy, Eric Clapton, Johnny Winter, Robert Cray & Hubert Sumlin
A good thread, but I'm a little surprised there aren't more posts already if I'm honest.
What do you mean, not more posts -- there are 39 pages of posts? Or are you thinking of text posts about what people are listening to?
believenothingDecember 02, 2017 at 10:22#1293190 likes
Reply to Bitter Crank Even with just a few users online at any one time, I would sort of expect a post on here every few seconds, or at least more than 10 per hour.. Just me, I suppose my expectations can be strange from time to time?
A track from my favorite record of all time (used to be my favorite track from the record, actually, but not anymore. It's one of the more accessible tracks though)
At the shops, on the radio, at work, at the gym, I felt like I was being stalked by the song. I finally gave up and decided to actually listen to the lyrics and I liked it. I wouldn't mind kids listening to this, better than all that other rubbish pouring out of the pop genre.
I was just trying to make it like a painting where you can see the different parts but then you also see the whole of it. With that particular song, that’s what I was trying to do... with the concept of time, and the way the characters change from the first person to the third person, and you’re never quite sure if the third person is talking or the first person is talking. But as you look at the whole thing, it really doesn’t matter.
Should white people be allowed to rap? The difference between white people and black people regarding the rap topic is hilarious. Whites are self-deprecating emo's, black people rap like they own the world. 4/10
Should black people be allowed to play classical music? :brow:
More like without american standards, there would be no pop/[rock], and without bop, there would be no american standards, and without swing, there would be no bob, and without ragtime, there would be no swing, and without delta blues, there would be no ragtime, and without negro spirituals, there would be no delta blues, and without traditional african music, there would be no negro spirituals. But that's an over-simplification.
René DescartesFebruary 24, 2018 at 09:09#1561130 likes
Reply to René Descartes Danse Macabre was one of the first songs I asked my violin instructor to teach me when I was a child.
Anyways, really loving the music tastes in this thread. The top 40 on my streaming service does not resonate at all with me; I am officially old I guess.
I do mainly listen to new music, but a classic tune that represents me fairly well is the following:
Reply to René Descartes I did have to tune it down a bit, yeah, which I recall being quite annoying. Mostly though, I found that the tune had moments were it couldn't be played solo, so I improvised my own version. I was probably on the Suzuki lessons book 6 or so at the time, and just turning a teenager, which actually made me one of my instructor's worst students.
René DescartesFebruary 28, 2018 at 07:15#1575340 likes
I want to post a youtube link to "Swastika Girls" by Fripp & Eno from their 1973 (!!!) proto-ambient record, (No Pussyfooting), but apparently both the name of the track and the name of the album, combined with the sheer obscurity of the record in general prevent it from being available on the general interwebs. Sad. Look it up, kids.
René DescartesMarch 02, 2018 at 09:14#1582000 likes
Reply to Noble DustYou mean the people who control the way information goes round the internet have come to an agreement not to promote an initiative called Sw***ika G**ls? I'm astonished. I didn't think there was that degree of consensus. But I'm very pleased. It shows that there is very little encouragement to indulge such things. Of course, anyone who wants can simply set up their own internet and publish it on there. It's a free world.
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Oh, Robert Fripp. Ok. I always thought Toyah Willcox could have done better.
I just re-clicked it from here to listen again, and noticed it started in the middle (at one of the best moments), but you should go back and listen through the whole piece if you haven't.
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I wanted to start this thread, but considering my history it would be a bit too self-indulgent.
For you:
Meow!
GREG
:D. Love it.
This is a song I come back to every now and then. It's about how there are multiple words surrounding you at all times. I first heard it on one of the first alternative stations. This station had trouble paying its bills so it disappeared from time to time.. Don't look at the video.. just listen to the song.. if you want to come closer to what it's like in my world :)
What song would you pick to say something about the world where you spend most of your time?
That's one mighty guy.
[i]Never been near a university,
Never took a paper or a learned degree,
And some of your friends think that's stupid of me,
But it's nothing that I care about.
Well I don't know how to tell the weight of the sun,
And of mathematics well I want none,
And I may be the Mayor of Simpleton,
But I know one thing,
And that's I love you.
When their logic grows cold and all thinking gets done,
You'll be warm in the arms of the Mayor of Simpleton.
I can't have been there when brains were handed round
(Please be upstanding for the Mayor of Simpleton),
Or get past the cover of your books profound,
(Please be upstanding for the Mayor of Simpleton),
And some of your friends thinks it's really unsound,
That you're even seen talking to me.
Well I don't know how to write a big hit song,
And all crossword puzzles well I just shun,
And I may be the Mayor of Simpleton,
But I know one thing,
And that's I love you.
I'm not proud of the fact that I never learned much,
Just feel I should say,
What you get is all real,
I can't put on an act,
It takes brains to do that anyway. (And anyway...)
And I can't unravel riddles, problems and puns,
And the home computer has me on the run,
And I may be the Mayor of Simpleton,
But I know one thing,
And that's I love you (I love you).
If depth of feeling is a currency,
(Please be upstanding for the Mayor of Simpleton),
Then I'm the man who grew the money tree,
(No Chain of Office and no hope of getting one).
Some of your friends are too brainy to see,
That they're paupers and that's how they'll stay.
Well I don't know how many pounds make up a ton,
Of all the Nobel prizes that I've never won,
And I may be the Mayor of Simpleton,
But I know one thing,
And that's I love you.
When all logic grows cold and all thinking gets done,
You'll be warm in the arms of the Mayor of Simpleton.
You'll be warm in the arms of the Mayor of Simpleton.
You'll be warm in the arms of the Mayor.
(Please be upstanding for the Mayor of Simpleton.)
Songwriters: PARTRIDGE, ANDY[/i]
Thanks Andy!!!
Meow!
GREG
I wish I'd write a single post as well as these two write a song.
Maybe one day...
Meow!
GREG
This is a song by a friend of mine about house hunting around the northern suburbs of Melbourne, where we live. The video is shot around that part of town too.
For @Pneumenon and all those with heavy metal hearts.
Anyway, this disk of Franchomme's music can be heard at Minnesota Public Radio (for a limited time). Or, try this:
Harry Truman, Doris Day, Red China, Johnnie Ray
South Pacific, Walter Winchell, Joe DiMaggio
Joe McCarthy, Richard Nixon, Studebaker, television
North Korea, South Korea, Marilyn Monroe
Rosenbergs, H-bomb, Sugar Ray, Panmunjom
Brando, "The King and I" and "The Catcher in the Rye"
Eisenhower, vaccine, England's got a new queen
Marciano, Liberace, Santayana goodbye
We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it...
I was sitting, on the roof of my house
With a shotgun
And a six pack of beers, six pack of beers, six pack of beers.
The newscaster says, "The enemy is among us"
As bombs explode on the 30 bus,
Kill your middle class indecision,
Now is not the time for liberal thought,
So I go hunting for witches
I go hunting for witches
Heads are going to roll
I go hunting for..
... I was an ordinary man with ordinary desires
I watched TV, it informed me
I was an ordinary man with ordinary desires
There must be accountability
Disparate and misinformed
Fear will keep us all in place
So I go hunting for witches
I go hunting for witches
Heads are going to roll
Meow!
GREG
:D
Finding out that Medicare and Medicade will drain my Dad of his last dollar before he will be eligible for Skilled nursing.
"Looks like we are in for stormy weather, that ain't no cause to leave, just lie here in my arms, let it wash away the pain, and it feels like rain, it feels like rain...can you feel it?"
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I tried but the link is just not working for me.
La Seine est aventureuse
De Châtillon à Méry,
Et son humeur voyageuse
Flâne à travers le pays...
Elle se fait langoureuse
De Juvisy à Choisy
Pour aborder, l'âme heureuse,
L'amoureux qu'elle a choisi!
Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Dès qu'elle entre dans Paris!
Elle s'enroule, roule, roule
Autour de ses quais fleuris!
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chante le jour et la nuit,
Car la Seine est une amante
Et son amant c'est Paris!
Elle traîne d'île en île,
Caressant le Vieux Paris,
Elle ouvre ses bras dociles
Au sourire du roi Henri...
Indifférente aux édiles
De la mairie de Paris,
Elle court vers les idylles
Des amants des Tuileries!
Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Du Pont-Neuf jusqu'à Passy!
Elle est soûle, soûle, soûle
Au souvenir de Bercy!
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chante le jour et la nuit...
Si sa marche est zigzaguante
C'est qu'elle est grise à Paris!
Mais la Seine est paresseuse,
En passant près de Neuilly,
Ah! comme elle est malheureuse
De quitter son bel ami!
Dans une étreinte amoureuse
Elle enlace encore Paris,
Pour lui laisser, généreuse,
Une boucle... à Saint-Denis!
Elle roucoule, coule, coule
Sa complainte dans la nuit...
Elle roule, roule, roule
Vers la mer où tout finit...
Elle chante, chante, chante, chante,
Chante l'amour de Paris!
Car la Seine est une amante
Et Paris dort dans son lit!
It's not about Dylan. It's about me being tangled up in blue.
... if you like Foals, maybe this is of interest too:
playlist ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fca-XzzxpAY&list=RDEMeQ5m-mEX1dnIaFYSLtWA6A&index=1 ) start with this one :
... ahh Math Rock! (Y)
Meow!
GREG
Bagatelles are little things; the video already disappeared!
First time I heard 'Like A Rolling Stone'
I felt that magic and took it home
Gave it a twist and made it mine
But nothing was as good as the very first time
Poetry rolling off his tongue
Like Hank Williams chewing bubble gum
Asking me 'how does it feel'?
[i]It's a pretty good crowd for a Saturday
And the manager gives me a smile
cause he knows that its me they've been comin' to see
To forget about life for a while
And the piano, it sounds like a carnival
And the microphone smells like a beer
And they sit at the bar and put bread in my jar
And say, man, what are you doin' here?[/i]
Well, I stand up next to a mountain and I chop it down with the edge of my hand.
(L) That man. It is my first dose of sarcasm and bullshit to start the day with! 8-)
Real Sabbathy and/or Maideny!
Don't know his name, he does all the art for the band.
USPM, related to all three bands historically
You're all a bunch of moshers, and you buy the most merch.
http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/alternative_music_fans_buy_the_most_merch
And now for something absolutely fucking disgusting.
I fucking hate Dream Theater, and anything that reminds me of them no matter how wacky it is!
Pretty wild...
When I was young, I cast aside the shadows of my youth
And I lifted up my eyes to the skies
I spread my wings, I sailed the seven seas
For Glory and all that it seemed
And through my love, I passed inside the hallows of my heart
And I lifted up my cries to the heights
But no one cared, No one even dared
And Glory evaded my dreams
Now I tell you this tale, this story
When I set my own sails for my dreams
In the Author of Life I found Glory
And the honor and power of my King
Now in my age, I've looked beyond horizons of the past
And I realized that fame was but a thing
I wrote my score, I wanted even more
And Glory said "No" to my theme
Now I tell you this tale, this story
When I set my own sails for my dreams
In the Author of Life I found Glory
And the honor and power of my King
Now I tell you this tale, this story
When I set my own sails for my dreams
In the Author of Life I found Glory
And the honor and power of my King
And the honor and power of my King
Such an amazing psychological thriller. I really liked the nod to Fight Club.
I spend too much time looking thru the slats in my fingers covering my eyes to enjoy the show.
:)
God, I love Foals.
There's some really good power stuff, but I think a lot of it wouldn't be considered power metal by today's standards because the genre has changed so much.
If you like muscular power metal, you could check out the older stuff like Agent Steel, Liege Lord and Jag Panzer. But they are a little rougher around the edges than Falconer, kind of like cult versions of Judas Priest.
I agree about the cheesiness, but maybe less so now -- cheesiness is a state of mind, and the feeling of it goes away once you occupy the tradition from within.
The "wall of sound" to create an atmosphere is deliberate in black metal and certainly takes some getting used to, but I love it. I play in a bedroom black metal band with my brother and we're in the midst of trying to record some stuff now. If you want, I could send you a link in a PM when it's done. I'd love to hear what someone who's metal-literate thinks of it.
Yeah, they have a very recognizable and likable sound. Actually, there is a Running Wild tribute band called Blazon Stone, which instead of playing Running Wild covers, just makes new songs in the band's style. They're not bad. I'm also looking forward to the new album! Even thinking you can do metal without a drummer is ludicrous IMO, it's a real dealbreaker.
Quoting Thorongil
Yeah, for sure. I don't really know that much about black metal, though. But I'd love to hear it.
I love his spasmastic sense of rhythm...a lot of talking heads this week...
[Verse 2]
When choice became the people's voice
Shout loud
Put your hands up in the crowd
Raise your fist up (fist up)
While I lift up (lift up)
Fucking everything wrong with the system (system)
People hungry and dyin'
They ain't got a home
This is the nature created
From the terrordome (terrordome)
Let's turn the page
Shaman burn the sage
Clear the way for the prophets of rage
Can you kick it like
-------------------------
Twisted minds that work as one,
They plot your destiny.
You stand and watch your only son,
Deprived of dignity.
Contempt and hatred all you feel,
Devoted loyalty.
A wound you know will never heal.
Doubting integrity.
You sent him out to pay the price.
Did what you thought was best.
You sent him out to be a man.
Almost laid to rest.
Unseen powers that deal the cards,
Faceless homicide.
A bitter rage you can't reveal,
Because of stupid pride.
What you want ain't always good for you.
It;s just the way the balance swings for you,
Balance swings for you.
Have no conscience, feel no pain,
All you need's a flag.
No glory now, the switch is made,
Uniform to body bag.
But after all, did you see the truth?
Find the real war?
What you want ain't always good for you.
No cause worth dying for.
What you want...
------------------------------
Yeah, I have to say that's pretty good. I haven't heard this vocalist before, he's more palatable than LaBrie, and it's LaBrie's vocals and the gratuitously flashy lead guitar work that spoil the whole DT experience for me .
I really don't like Images and Words any more (although I still have it on the shelves I have only listened to it once or twice in the last eight years); and it is considered to be their greatest album.
That's as far as I'm willing to defend them, though...even Awake, which a lot of people like, IMO has some outright bad stuff. And after that all bets are off.
Overall I wish the late 80's sound had survived, instead of what we got. It got insane in places. This was probably its apex:
Recommended for anyone who wants a really satisfying challenge. One of my favorite albums / tracks of all time.
\m/
Has many poor reviews; but, something about it appeals to me in its simplicity. As Wittgenstein would possibly would have liked...
[b]In ancient Rome
There was a poem
About a dog
Who found two bones
He picked at one
He licked the other
He went in circles
He dropped dead
Freedom of choice
Is what you got
Freedom from choice
Is what you want[/b]
Meow!
GREG
Ooh, oooh, oooh, ooh
I'm sure we're taller in another dimension
You say we're smaller and not worth the mention
You’re tired of movin', your body’s achin'
We could vacay, there's places to go
Clearly this isn't all that there is
Can't take what's been given
But we're so okay here, we're doing fine
I'm up and naked
You dream of walls that hold us in prison
It's just a scar, at least that's what they call it
And we're free to fall
Meow!
GREG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aarg7gVC0TU
yeh yeh
OH BABY
A bit of a daunting listen, but very rewarding.
And some heavy Haydn.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T9Q1uKl-Qg
Scene 6 of the Ratboy Genius space opera, 'Starship Genius.' Pretty amazing.
And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vg1jyL3cr60
Stud Master
Ouzo time.
I picked up the clarinet as a kid after hearing stuff like this (and clarinet jazz groups, too). Man, was I a sucker!
Beauty!
Schubert.
I really wish that Toriyama would stop raping Goku now... he seriously needs to be stopped.
Hey I'm a Jaco fan. Saw him live with Weather Report, Sydney, 1979 or so. Sensational, electrifying performer.
Tied up in Nottz with a zed you cunt. (L)
With all your head banging and otherwise nonsense songs devoid of sentimentality, here's what I'm listening to, about someone I thought I knew:
"Little Wing"
Well, she's walking through the clouds,
With a circus mind that's running wild,
Butterflies and Zebras,
And Moonbeams and fairy tales.
That's all she ever thinks about.
Riding with the wind.
When I'm sad, she comes to me,
With a thousand smiles she gives to me free.
It's alright, she says it's alright,
Take anything you want from me,
Anything.
Fly on little wing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdHHsoW6mMg
Just a thought, have you tried BBC 6music online? that's where it's all happening these days.
Used to listen to 6music years ago. Is that what the cool kids are tuning into these days? I may try it again.
And I love Ty Segall. Particularly his songs about head explosions and imaginary people.
I know whatchu mean, man!
Absolutely amazing.
Um. It was on my pandora Hans Zimmer station. All hail Fuckface von Clownstick. Yay!
Damn stalkers...
Jammin to some old tunes at 5 AM.
https://youtu.be/nZqq-zAkGy4
This is seriously beautiful:
Time compression
The Psychedelic Muse is cool too:
Jimi Hendrix, Tax free, live at Winterland.
https://youtu.be/tqjR8P5Jt48
I can't watch this in the UK due to copyright, hope you can where you are.
This version is no where near so heavy, more meltdown though and nice guitar torture.
https://youtu.be/yzi9Av0Mg80
Good driving music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrAfrV-sCvM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5Vki76x-EU
Blocker here, but here's a live performance, that's not blocked here at least (Canada, per se):
https://youtu.be/XPpCRAQdkDU
Regardless of the superstitious nonsense, Simone gives an impressive musical (and felt) performance. The only "power" is the music itself. Such is music, and Simone's got it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QH3Fx41Jpl4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBojbjoMttI
Miles Davis: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbxtYqA6ypM
I'm listening to the best of Brazilian Music: Jorge Ben Jor - Força Bruta :)
The original remains the best for me. You really get that modal feel and the bite of the tritone.
At the moment I'm listening to this:
Not to do what I have done
Spend your lives in sin and misery
In the House of the Rising Sun
These children in 1960s jackets and ties singing about their life of sin and misery in the house of the rising sun...
Likely story. Love the song. Love the Animals.
Do you listen to any Tropicalia? I just picked up some Tom Ze.
Here is a video of Gilberto Gil, Tom Ze, and Caetano Veloso singing Veloso's sublime song "Tropicalia" in 1997. A little choppy, but one of the rare videos of the three founders of the movement on stage together.
This:
http://www.alligator.com/albums/God-Dont-Never-Change-The-Songs-Of-Blind-Willie-Johnson-CD/
you might also like this
The Ivory Gate of Dreams is that gate through which, in Greek mythology, false visions enter one's mind while asleep. The song of the same title is a sometimes haunting, sometimes harrowing meditation on willful sleep, ignoring reality, and awakening to harsh truths. It combines elements of US power metal, early tech thrash like Watchtower, and the budding sounds of progressive metal pioneered in the US by early Fates Warning itself, Queensryche, and Dream Theater. Its acrobatic vocal melodies and guitar lines twist to elicit an odd, otherworldly soulfulness, and its crushing atmosphere sometimes prefigures progressive death metal acts like Opeth that would arise in the coming years.
Yes, we p-zombies have terrible taste in music! Sometimes we will listen to a broken radiator rattling for hours and wonder why no one has used it in a song. But p-zombies being very obedient and docile, we eagerly await to be enlightened by your list of bitchin' tunes to groove to. 8-)
Amen, I would of thought there would be more classical heads on here as philosophy usually is paired with the interests of the intelligent/aristocratic. Can't fucking stand rock, that shit should of died in the 80s.
This is proven scientifically to be the most relaxing song in the world (statistically) and has been found to reduce up to 65% of peoples anxiety in neurological scans:
awesomesong!
Ahh, but I disagree...if you appreciate the structure of classical music, surely you can appreciate this beast of a song:
Meow!
GREG
Don't know much about Chelsea P. Manders, but I like this lullaby and would sing it to my own children if they were younger
Or if your taste runs a little darker (the lyrics start about 45 seconds in),
There are two types of people. Those with a loaded gun, and those that dig, you dig?
"The Triple Duel".
Bugger. I'll be keeping the volume down on the 'ol Napalm Death from now on.
Ah, Carcass, that would do it alright.
I occasionally go to dance parties, and I won't enter without these:
Could be a mild case of it, I'm an audio engineer, but I was more referring to anechoic chambers where supposedly you can hear the sound of your nervous system because it's so quiet :-O may very well just be bullshit! I think I heard that in a music course in college...which doesn't mean it's not bullshit...
A true fact .... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otoacoustic_emission
Interesting, I'm pretty sure I have that.
I did wonder if that's what you meant, because I'd heard the story that John Cage tells about one of his inspirations for creating 4'33":
"It was after I got to Boston that I went into the anechoic chamber at Harvard University. Anybody who knows me knows this story. I am constantly telling it. Anyway, in that silent room, I heard two sounds, one high and one low. Afterward I asked the engineer in charge why, if the room was so silent, I had heard two sounds. He said, 'Describe them.' I did. He said, 'The high one was your nervous system in operation. The low one was your blood in circulation.' "
But according to others this is impossible, and he could have just been hearing tinnitus.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OlrcbKlW4Tw&t=58s
With your ear down to the ground... i hear a very gentle sound...
:D
Post that again because it's so fucking cool... but did anyone notice the first time that he's wearing a Rush, moving pictures tour shirt?
It's all binaural beats these days! (headphones required for the complete experience)
There's this band named Rush that you might enjoy.
:D
They're pretty great. My Dad's favorite band actually, I grew up having them blasted in my ear on a daily basis.
I'm a fan, too. They're maybe top 30ish for me . . . at least in my top 50. (I'm a fan of hundreds and hundreds of artists.) I've actually seen Rush at least once on every tour since they were supporting their very first album. The first few times I saw them they were supporting other artists--Uriah Heep the first time, then KISS, then Ted Nugent.
Closest I've been to going to a concert was watching Our Lady Peace on one of the big screens on the side walk beside the concert area in Halifax. It was a rainy day, and few people were there, and they were hardly giving it their all. So the lead singer climbed the stage, saying that he wanted to see who all was there, and then spotted us on the street, like thirty people probably, and said "hey guys watching for free", and we were all like "hey!", and waved back.
Haha
Geez, it's difficult for me to imagine having never been to a concert. I've not only been to many hundreds, going all the way back to 1968, but I've played hundreds, going all the way back to 1974.
I was lucky to eat growing up, let alone go to concerts. Rise Against, probably my fav band comes through Edmonton once in awhile, I plan to see them sometime.
I bought concert tickets to one of the festivals last year, but my date stood me up, and the tickets are still in my glove box.
Well, in my case, it helps that when I was a kid, concerts were like $5 or so. Even in the mid to late 70s--1976-1977, say, concert tickets were still only $11-12. Of course, that was worth a bit more back then, but it's still under $50 in today's dollars.
I ought to make a point to go to a couple of concerts this year, even if alone. I definitely would like to.
This song is about spending a lot of time waiting in traffic.
That's really an amazing tune.
Lorn has developed tendrils that have wound their way down into the depths of my psyche. I think I should probably notify the NSA, but I don't know if it still exists. Rone too.
Bach Collegium Japan, Masaaki Suzuki.
I'm just cycling through the whole cantata set. It's a seemingly endless collection of stunning masterpieces (as is almost everything else Bach composed).
Followed quickly by a few italian ones from Umberto Tozzi, Celentano, etc.
10 min in, can't get enough.
Haha, so Eurovision :P But listen, if you want to woo a girl then perhaps that song might just do the trick. But, if you want to woo a real woman with a mojo, then I would suggest never, I mean never ever ever ever, dedicate that song to her, mkay. Though not necessarily my taste, if you need a pop-like song with a bit more sexual sophistication, then perhaps try:
Oh dear... :-O Im not sure I ever want to woo this real woman with a mojo ... Im not quite sure what that is supposed to mean to be quite honest >:O
Haha! >:O
You don't really wanna meet that guy now, no? I mean if he grabs you with those sharp claws or teeth... :-x
>:O >:O >:O
Trash dove has visited us and given us these wonderful meme gifts.
Pretty much always puts me in a good mood.
Also, I'm looking forward to seeing a T.Rex tribute band next month. T.Rex!
"Some people think
That if they go too far
They'll never get back
To where the rest of
Them are
I might be crazy
But there's one thing
I know
You might be surprised
At what you find
When ya go!
If you been
Mod-o-fied,
It's an illusion,
An yer in between
Don't you be
Tarot-fied,
It's just a lot of nothin',
So what can it mean?"
It's funny how some musicians you wouldn't really listen to tend to be amazing in concert. When I saw Gotye before he became famous many years back, he was totally awesome in this dodgy little hotel in Melbourne where I saw him with only twenty or so people there. I saw Jose Gonzales when I was in Sweden and he was INCREDIBLE. This became one of my favourite songs of all time.
Woo wooo woo
There. A load of cool music to check out. You're welcome.
Iration - Automatic/ Splintered Heart
Train - Play That Song
One Drop - Little Black Dress
Matisyahu - One Day/ King Without A Crown
Phoenix - Armistice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVIA1n5ng4Y
Growl growl.
I am the beast of philo-so-phee, say what you like, once you say it like me.
For Kim, with love. (L)
The Don.
I can't take full credit for "knowing" this song, You-tube brought me there after I searched and enjoyed "We'll Meet Again"...
With this one, I feel like I am desperately reaching out to someone, but they are not there, and though it is heartbreaking, I still continue reaching out.
Oh god, you know Part, but not Reich? Sorry, I get emotional about these things. Part is wonderful; simply beautiful because of his fearlessness and the beauty of his music. But Reich is beautiful because he's a mathematician. And I'm literally the last person to appreciate that about a composer. The piece I just posted isn't the best intro, maybe check out his most well known piece, "Music For 18 Musicians". Just keep in mind that European minimalism tends to be way different than the downtown NYC scene oft the 60's - 80's. Euro minimalism is more classically tonal; American minimalism is more a reaction against atonalism.
Btw, I'm not familiar with Summa for Strings, but it's very nice.
Edit: and what you say about reaching out to someone but never connecting is very true because this piece seems to constantly elude the tonic (the home pitch). It's there, but only fleetingly.
I was supposed to go to yoga class but you have ruined that prospect :-}
Oh please, don't let me make you feel ashamed. Sorry. It's more of a classic musician's response to another musician, than anything else ("oh god, you don't know that record?"). Forgive me, it was unnecessary.
Well...as to a reaction against atonality, I see guys like Arvo Part, John Tavener, and Michael Nyman as strictly European "sacred" minimalists, who write minimalist music that's literally more religious and in line with a mystical or specific religious line of thinking, and so by result their music is more "classical" in the sense that it's more informed by the hard classical composers who literally had to write music for the church, as in Bach, etc.
Steve Reich, Philip Glass, Terry Reilly, et al, are all American minimalists who grew up in an Academic setting where the venerated people were Schoenberg, Messiaen, etc. (ironically European) and I'll be biased here and include one of my favorite Messiaen pieces (granted I still can't find a slow enough version on youtube; search spotify for a version that's about 9 mins long):
So anyway, that's a less atonal Messiaen piece. But the more atonal tendencies of these early and mid-modern dudes are all exactly the thing that the American minimalists were rebelling against. One of Glass's earliest pieces is this unlistenable solo violin piece where the violin practically plays triads the whole time; I can't even remember what's it's called. But that's how bold the rebellion was. Reich himself said, in some interview that I saw at some point, that he "simply didn't want to make atonal music." He just wanted to "make tonal music".
Here's a nice Philip Glass primer:
and some trippy, hippy Terry Reilly shit:
And btw, my favorite of the 3, here's Reich's Music For 18 Musicians:
[god, don't get me started...what am I doing on a philosophy forum...]
I'm not a musician, I've only just started learning the piano but I have always been a fan of classical music and decided to start exploring contemporary composers, so I appreciate the guidance. To be perfectly honest with you, I have difficulty with trippy analogues, I can even struggle with John M. Cage. I think it is more the synthetic rhythms that causes me to remain focused or conscious and that annoys me, but for abstract stuff, I recently got a chance to see Dan Yuhas when I was in Israel I thought it was a great experience.
I never indulged in Phillip Glass but I could see him creeping up on me on those days where I feel like I'm just sick of everything, but not exactly stressed or anxious, more like disappointed and tired, where you don't really want to talk neither do you want to shut off and just having him on my iPod as I wander around.
Quoting Noble Dust
What most of us highly intelligent loners do; we come here to relax. And dude, there is no need to apologise. Passion is way more important than social etiquette. :P
Well, any denial of tradition includes an acknowledgement of tradition, in the same way that atheism includes an acknowledgement of theism, just by definition.
Quoting TimeLine
I'm not sure why it being coherently reducible is important. Classical structure lead to atonality, and then minimalism rebelled, but maybe that rebellion was just the next logical step. I mean, atonality continued and continues, even now. But now minimalism is replaced by post-minimalism. Some examples:
John Adams, possibly my favorite post-minimalist composer. This piece is for two pianos. Not an easy duo to write for! Twenty fingers...
Nico Muhly's Balance Problems, written for my favorite contempo-classical ensemble in NYC, yMusic:
With post-minimalism, listen for the development of simple minimalist repetitive structure; the structure changes more quickly, but still seems to retain a certain logic.
Quoting TimeLine
Cage is strange, but his early percussion music is cool (be sure to catch the sea shell horn!):
Not familiar with Dan Yuhas. It's interesting, seems to lean more atonal; not really my thing, but I'm always open to hear more stuff.
Quoting TimeLine
I actually think he's overrated, but I also do love his music, I just don't place him on the same level as Reich, or Cage or whatnot. I don't spend a bunch of time listening to him.
When I was in Florence a couple of years back, I went to a concert hidden in the backstreets where I was staying. I was - at the time - in an immeasurable amount of subjective pain and felt the pangs of a deep sorrow and there was probably a handful of people in this concert. When the quartet began playing "Dissonance" by Mozart, it was like a massive hand formed from the sounds and came over me as though it literally grabbed and took away all that pain.
When considering people like Arvo Part, the classical is and remains entrenched in European culture and so it should; it would be a lie in a way to disregard that influence and power. The suggestion of a complete abandonment of atonality to me seems somewhat impossible and there is a certain dishonesty about it that I am afraid becomes clear in some compositions, although I will agree that you correctly paint the picture of a gradual progression and ultimate change. The below is another one of my favourites, but you can sense the mixture between the slavic and the classical that makes Arvo Part well, Arvo Part. It makes him honest to himself through his music.
I wish there were more minimalist music with Cello. I love the Cello and I remember being told how much it would cost to buy one by a teacher at school. I could barely afford lunch at the time and it makes me wonder whether such music is really the sounds created by the privileged. But thanks for your intro in Reicht... ;)
I don't want to disarm the potency of your experience here, but I had a similar experience when I was about 15. A feeling of a divine "hand" grabbing my whole being and silencing me, a hand that took my whole being into consideration and made things "right"...
Quoting TimeLine
Well, I don't know if the classical remains or should remain there; I think the American minimalists are enough to say otherwise. Now, I do personally agree with you when you talk about a complete abandonment of tonality. That complete abandonment does not meet with my own purely intuitive standards. And that's all I have to go on when it comes to tonality. That's the funny thing; I can wax poetic about whatever I happen to know or not know about tonality, minimalism, post-minimalism, etc, but when it coms down to it, if I don't personally like it, then it just doesn't matter. I don't ultimately give a shit unless it's dope. And a lot of contempo-classical is, decidedly, not dope.
Quoting TimeLine
Well...cellists themselves aren't exactly the privileged (my sister-in-law being an example); if anyone involved is privileged, I guess it would be the faculty who serve as the gate-keepers to cellists. But on the other hand, there's any number of talented cellists willing to play whatever's put in front of them, however, there's many fewer composers willing to write interesting music that involves the cello...so...
Scheisse, I'm not mad!
Quoting Noble Dust
Well said. (Y)
Quoting Noble Dust
Yes, my housemate is an opera student and she has often asked for my advice on how to deal with what I view to be rather unique situations between students and the faculty, the latter having this puritan air that despises even the slightest deviation from the strict standards they impose that fails to be conducive to creativity with the remedy being a neurotic student cohort. I think it is really fearless of any composer to compose, let alone involving cello, let alone attempting to deviate from tonality.
Anyway, we've kind of taken over the thread... best stop for now. :D
I'd rather listen to Ravel, the most pianistic of all:
Im not into rap but this was so lit
Rub up on my belly like its guava jelly... best lyrics ever!
(I'm referring to the music by Ravel, btw)
Some of the best music ever written!
Speaking of Krautrock:
Cool, what album is that from? I've been on Krautrock binge recently.
It's from Tago Mago; a great album altogether. There's quite a playlist to follow on from 'Halleluwah' on that Youtube channel, featuring songs from several albums. My two favorite albums from Can are Ege Bamyasi and Tago Mago, and Future Days is great two. Actually most of their stuff is pretty good. I think Radiohead, for example, is influenced by Can, and for me Can beats Pink Floyd hands down. That Ravel piece you posted was awesome, by the way.
Ah, I did listen to Tago Mago once, I'll have to listen again. I really like Neu!'s first album, as well as Tangerine Dream's first album, which can be categorized as Krautrock. Kraftwerk's Ralf and Florian is also a hidden gem. Glad you like the Ravel. Here's more:
You, buried in the dark depths
Of the creative spirit, you, timid
Embryos of life, to you I bring daring."
Depends on the documentary, >:O
~
I just signed a contract, i'll officially be in a documentary about ISIS, refugees and the impact of war on children from the Mid East. They're sending me to Iraq early next year and back to Bethlehem where I currently work closely with refugee children. :-! I was going to Iran but they have refused a visa because I worked in Israel last year (how else am I supposed to get to the West Bank?)
Ill be right, its my job and I was there last year and will be well protected.
I guess you turn the volume up louder, sing brighter and live the love out of life while we still have the chance~ Greg Allman may you rest in peace~ (L)
Soulshine
Catchy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKoLqK1aIFo
Now this is a bit different is a late 60s concept album designed to be listened to start to finish on on a record. Ive never met anyone who'd heard of them before, so if you have let me know :D
http://billmoyers.com/story/comey-got-face-trumps-godfather-fantasy/
Being yourself is the only thing that will ever truly make you happy.
Remembering old friends.
Im just listening to the radio unpacking and cleaning up, dont want to actually use my phone data for that atm.
Great tune.
First thing I remember was asking papa, why,
For there were many things I didn't know.
And daddy always smiled and took me by the hand,
Saying, someday you'll understand.
Well, I'm here to tell you now, each and every mother's son,
That you better learn it fast, you better learn it young,
'Cause someday never comes.
She could have shown more tit.
These songs are not like meant to be attacks on anyone in particular, rather than all of humanity, myself most included...
Those lyrics were ironically faked... hopefully this one is better
Gear Second is definitely my favorite technique.
Helix - No Regret
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/20812
Helix6 - The Collective
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OR0LQ1MJkYA
..below are a few other songs that I listen to when trying to tune out the rest of the world and either do work on my computer or just relax in general. They are mostly industrial/electronic in case anyone else on the forum is interested in that kind of stuff. Reply if you like and wish me to post other links. :D
Skinny Puppy - Assimilate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTtzB17SKwQ
God Module - Lost Time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USbR4EXnMCA
Incubite - Riot Trigger (2012)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkKkvCGg8MA
Retractor - Sacred Law
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNVomiI-Kv4
INDUSTRIAL MEGAMIX: 2012 From DJ Dark Modulator
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0WActw9OpI
Lately, the song "Now or Never" by very smart pop singer-songwriter Halsey is in constant rotation for me, too.
When I was in the third grade I thought that I was gay
'Cause I could draw, my uncle was, and I kept my room straight
I told my mom, tears rushing down my face
She's like "Ben you've loved girls since before Pre-K, trippin'."
Yeah, I guess she had a point, didn't she?
Bunch of stereotypes all in my head
I remember doing the math like, "Yeah, I'm good at little league."
A pre-conceived idea of what it all meant
For those that like the same sex
Had the characteristics
The right-wing conservatives think it's a decision
And you can be cured with some treatment and religion
Man-made rewiring of a pre-disposition
Playing God, aw nah here we go
America the brave still fears what we don't know
And "God loves all his children" is somehow forgotten
But we paraphrase a book written thirty-five-hundred years ago
I don't know
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
My love
My love
My love
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
If I was gay, I would think hip-hop hates me
Have you read the YouTube comments lately?
"Man, that's gay" gets dropped on the daily
We've become so numb to what we're saying
Our culture founded from oppression
Yet we don't have acceptance for 'em
Call each other faggots behind the keys of a message board
A word rooted in hate, yet our genre still ignores it
"Gay" is synonymous with the lesser
It's the same hate that's caused wars from religion
Gender to skin color, the complexion of your pigment
The same fight that led people to walk-outs and sit-ins
It's human rights for everybody, there is no difference
Live on and be yourself
When I was at church they taught me something else
If you preach hate at the service those words aren't anointed
That holy water that you soak in has been poisoned
When everyone else is more comfortable remaining voiceless
Rather than fighting for humans that have had their rights stolen
I might not be the same, but that's not important
No freedom 'til we're equal, damn right I support it
(I don't know)
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
My love
My love
My love
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
We press play, don't press pause
Progress, march on
With the veil over our eyes
We turn our back on the cause
'Til the day that my uncles can be united by law
When kids are walking 'round the hallway plagued by pain in their heart
A world so hateful some would rather die than be who they are
And a certificate on paper isn't gonna solve it all
But it's a damn good place to start
No law is gonna change us
We have to change us
Whatever God you believe in
We come from the same one
Strip away the fear
Underneath it's all the same love
About time that we raised up
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
And I can't change
Even if I tried
Even if I wanted to
My love
My love
My love
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
She keeps me warm
Love is patient
Love is kind
Love is patient
Love is kind
(Not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient
(Not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind
(I'm not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient
(Not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind
(I'm not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient
(Not crying on Sundays)
Love is kind
(I'm not crying on Sundays)
Love is patient
Love is kind
Vale Walter Becker! (The tie-wearing guitar player for those who don't know him.)
https://open.spotify.com/user/michelmemimomedia/playlist/5znulT6mb9Gyr80BQ2K344
Through the dawning age
We go walking together
Toward the yawning grave
Braving dangers, we make our way
We'll leave our bones in the dust
An untold legend is lighting up
What if I was the last sight you ever saw?
Would you die with a smile on your face?
Well, don't even try to say you will
'Cause you'd hardly recognize the sight
Young are getting old and the summer is cold
And all the birds've been singing at night
When we're dead and gone
Will the mountains remember?
Or just carry on
Moving slow as the forest grows?
And turn our bones into dust
An untold legend is lighting up
When will I reach that light that I'm running to?
When I die will it turn out forever?
There's a fire burning inside of me
When I die will light burn out forever?
Well, don't even lie, I know it will, babe
'Cause the darkness doesn't need the light
All the young are getting old and the summer is cold
All the birds've been singing at night
Well, don't even try to save me, friend
'Cause I know it ain't worth the fight
All the young are getting old and the summer is cold
All the birds've been singing at night
Edit
Ha! I just noticed that the lyrics writer didn't get the Pavlov's dogs reference.
https://pitchfork.com/reviews/tracks/brian-eno-kevin-shields-only-once-away-my-son/?mbid=social_facebook
"What adult goes full force against children?" - Madara Uchiha.
FOOTPRINTS ON THE OTHER SIDE.
I haven't slept for days... I even took sleeping medication, which generally works.
Mr. John Hiatt
Just give these loving arms a try baby and have a little faith in me....
Have you tried a cup of caffeinated coffee to get to sleep? It sometimes works when sleeping meds are not working.
Generally I drink a lot of coffee, but seeing as I have been having trouble I have been attempting to not eat or have within a good six hours of attempting to sleep. Luckily I don't work tonight, so I should be fine. I also managed to doze in and our for a good hour just a couple hours ago, so I feel better. I do want a coffee some bad though. I'll thinking of stopping attempting to force sleep, and just getting up, cleaning the house, doing some yoga, and then having a hot bath.
Hot baths often make me really relaxed.
Good song, by the by.
Sounds like a lovely way to end conclude a weekend~
Does it make it easier on you now that you have got someone to blame?
You say one love, one life, it's one need in the night,
it's one love get to share in, it leaves you darling if you don't care for it......
Bono & and the Amazing Mary J. Blige
The days I work are always changed up, and I accepted full time, though was just doing part-time when I first started, but rarely get two days in a row off anymore the bastards. So I got home from work 7 this morning, get tonight off, and then work Monday through Thursday, and get Friday off.
and in the sticky heat I feel you open up to me
Love comes out of nowhere baby
Just like a Hurricane and it feels like rain.....
Buddy Guy ......omg listen to him breathe
Meh, it isn't hard, just nights I thought would be good, because I'm a creature of the night, but forgot about all of the working in the sun on roofs for years, and then saying goodbye to the sun for months. That has been hard.
Sweet Home Chicago
Buddy Guy, Eric Clapton, Johnny Winter, Robert Cray & Hubert Sumlin
Every morning for what seems like forever now
:D
A good thread, but I'm a little surprised there aren't more posts already if I'm honest.
What do you mean, not more posts -- there are 39 pages of posts? Or are you thinking of text posts about what people are listening to?
In the process of waking up he hurt his sciatic nerve. Happens.
Two songs at once? Who are you, Charles Ives?
I guess I'm in a certain kind of mood >:)
Real Christmas music, y'all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GNkWac-Nm0A
Black wanna be.
(L)
The record needs to be heard as one piece. That being said, Myrrhman is my current favorite:
[hide]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imyIu9r2-xI[/hide]
My philosofic thots about good and bad
Marka Mind is on my mind
--The Pretty Things
LOVE this song.
LOL
Favorite album from last year
3.5/10
Should black people be allowed to play classical music? :brow:
whoop whoop
Have at you with this cheesy deep house!
What is "proper taste"?
Bullshit.
You have a lot to learn.
Examples?
And, examples that I only like "modern music", which is a failed copy of "classical music?" What does that even mean?
More like without american standards, there would be no pop/[rock], and without bop, there would be no american standards, and without swing, there would be no bob, and without ragtime, there would be no swing, and without delta blues, there would be no ragtime, and without negro spirituals, there would be no delta blues, and without traditional african music, there would be no negro spirituals. But that's an over-simplification.
How/where/at what point?
No, I don't.
I'm joshin' you, I've been a musician since age 6.
What do you mean by "those"?
Anyways, really loving the music tastes in this thread. The top 40 on my streaming service does not resonate at all with me; I am officially old I guess.
I do mainly listen to new music, but a classic tune that represents me fairly well is the following:
Nah, apparently totally random, but I'll just post the link to the wiki here, at risk of mod freak-out-mode. The story is in that link somewhere
Nah it's not that bad, @Baden is watching over us, and he understands these artistic licenses.
:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
:groan:
The sheer depth and breadth of that wiki page should avail me alone.
:100:
___
Oh, Robert Fripp. Ok. I always thought Toyah Willcox could have done better.
Sun Ra, Sun Ra, Lord Quas, Madlib
weed + 6 string fuzzed bass + drummer from Neurosis + Alan Watts Books = this song
Morton Feldman
Not Chopin but still beautiful
Quoting René Descartes
You did say.
Quoting René Descartes
So, ah, anyhoot.
My. No.1 played song on my iPod.
I just re-clicked it from here to listen again, and noticed it started in the middle (at one of the best moments), but you should go back and listen through the whole piece if you haven't.