Emptyheady

Right, and the holocaust was not a poor policy...

And you condone rape, murder and famine. Interesting game to play. All governments are responsible to minimise violence, it is their responsibility.

Objectively not, perhaps subjectively. Objectively speaking, Nazi Germany was less violent.

I just told you they killed fewer.

Right, depends on how you kill them. Interesting perspective.

For a leftist, all objective perspectives are.

Their governance has increase violence by (roughly) 370% (which is 4,7 times higher) than it was, which makes it objectively speaking more violent tha...

Venezuela is objectively speaking more violent than Nazi Germany -- as in higher rates of homicide -- going by absolute body counts, not obviously, bu...

Yes No, objectively speaking then. I know. Note that we are also not even including the indirect suffering that should not be ignored by socialists, l...

I answer your question regarding Venezuela -- of late, because I did not want to change the topic and let you get away with controversial statements.

Wikipedia... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Venezuela#Homicide_and_violent_crime Note the rise in violence, it is only getting worse.

Sorry I was wrong, Socialism Venezuela is more violent (proportionally) than Nazi Germany, I used out-dated data: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...

Interesting argument. When has that ever worked?

I just proved you statistically wrong. You make controversial (moral) statements -- at least I thought we factually agreed... I am pretty much the onl...

No, but If I had to choose between national socialism or other forms of socialism, I know which one would be morally more tolerable.

I was right about body counts. Nothing I said was wrong.

You asked about the holocaust. If you want to include war crime, then count in USSR war crimes.

Proportionally yes, if we ignore Nazi Germany in the equation. Venezuela is on 73/100.000 --> 1:1370 (rough calculations), damn close to actual Nazi G...

https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.TAB1.3.GIF https://www.hawaii.edu/powerkills/NAZIS.CHAP1.HTM And this does not include the real crime of massi...

Violence should be measured in proportion -- hence rate of violence. Venezuela has had an increase of violence by almost 200% (= 3 times) under social...

You did. You shrugged it off, saying it did not matter (morally?), lol, even for a bloke like me, that is extreme. I have a reasonable knowledge about...

My prediction for this thread: equivocations, equivocations and more equivocations... Especially these two words: "moral" and "objective." edit: Yup, ...

We seem to factually agree that national socialism has the least amount of body counts compared to all other forms of socialism, yet you claimed you d...

Are you changing the topic? I am fully willing to go in depth on Venezuela, but won't allow you to get away with such controversial views before I've ...

I just stated that National socialism has the least amount of body counts of all other forms of socialism -- without cherry picking. This is a fact th...

No. Do you condone genocides, rapes and famine?

There is a difference between intentions, imagined and the actual consequences thereof. Hitler had good intentions and a very rosy utopia in mind, if ...

Right... Like North Korea and Venezuela? "But..but... , it is not what I envisioned it to be in my Marxism classes" (?_?)

Open a book about history (not the dictionary) lad. Ignoring all the suffering of socialism is like denying the holocaust but objectively worse -- dis...

National socialism has the least amount of body counts of all forms of socialism. I know which one I would prefer if I had to choose a dystopia.

It is quite strange that communism and libertarian socialism -- or any form of socialism for that matter -- is not received in the same manner, really...

I just officially got my degree in Industrial Engineering and Business management (i.e. engineering management). I may have to take IQ and personality...

Go get yourself a beer lad -- I donated some some money via pay pal -- this has probably been the most fruitless thread I have ever seen.

The epistemological/intellectual aspect of conservatism, a free market for ideas, because humans are fundamentally limited and fallible. lazy copy-pas...

I linked this particular video because he addresses the crux your post in a clever way. ---- Here is a more serious post. Summary and Conclusions: Spe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rrtttOCtq8

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What about becoming that yourself?

Is that really puzzling? We are talking about a group of people with a very limited and ignorant view of the world.

Yeah, you're right, I am not really keeping up with the posts and with the hopping in-and-out of the thread, I tend to miss the context of some conver...

Okay, if we are talking about 1k expense as a student, then we agree. I did work in addition to school, but not a lot -- it was still tough. Yeah, one...

Let's run some rough numbers. Germany ranks 32 (USA is 18th) on the cost of living index and has an average living expenses of 716 Euro's per month in...

92% of left-wing activists live with their parents and one in three is unemployed, study of Berlin protesters finds

Immigration process would be tough for me... http://i.imgur.com/OWDjh30.png http://online.seterra.com/en

USA has a higher HDI than Canada. The index is (partly) based on the capability principle by Amartya Sen, that gives so many leftist an erection aroun...

Leftists are quite creative at blaming all their insecurities on Capitalism. Anyway, listen to Hanover or Charles Murray: https://www.youtube.com/watc...

Good, then we are done here. How?

I just did that test because csalisbury commented that the original test was "terribly designed." I answered the questions and tried not to over-think...

I honestly don't know. I found the questions a bit weird. I answered neutral with cases like whether it is morally "OK" or "not OK" if Betty kisses tw...