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But, that doesn't mean that method's fail us every time. Sure, methods are prone to fallibilism. But, then we pull ourselves by our bootstraps and are...

Haha, I understand. So, the point of your posts is to highlight that we can't have an attitude independent of meaning obtained in an abstract sense? W...

Oh, indeed. One can always suppress needs over wants. That's true. But, I don't see how this contributes to the discussion in any manner or form.

Understood. So, how does this relate to attitudes?

I need water is distinct from "I want water". I suppose we can live in a fantasy world where wants and needs are equated with one another; but, that's...

Does that make you a subjectivist too? Or contextualism reigns supreme?

What do you mean by that Michael?

Yes, "justice" is an abstraction. What more can I say?

Sorry, I'm having trouble understanding you here. It seems like words are failing us here.

That's a want admittedly, but, I fail to see how it contrasts from the need to drink water.

Justice is an abstraction of the mind. Sure, we can disagree about it; but, the atomic meaning is apparent when we want to communicate it to another.

So, hence, words have atomic meaning.

I don't understand this. Please explain.

How so? We all stand on the same ground more or less.

What is the ground without bedrock beliefs and truths?

My need for water to survive is independent of any want.

This can't be true. Can it?

Big problem. We live in strife over trivialities in life. How could you neglect to mention this is beyond me.

Understood. Yet, those atomic relations stand out from the rest. They are what ground meaning.

What is "meaning holism"?

What do you mean by that?

But, you didn't become a philosophical pessimist yourself? Kudos.

Indeed. I think, attitudes are paramount to philosophical talk.

What are your thoughts on philosophical pessimism? Is it perfunctory?

We left off on attitudes.

@"macrosoft", shall we continue our discussion?

Indeed. Now give me back my avatar, hehe.

Yes, I agree.

What's wrong with denying people happiness with such notions? People live in the realm of the ideal for the most part of their lives.

I take the Kantian or Platonic notion of noesis with "imagination" here interchangeable. Schopenhauer based his philosophy as a form of idealism with ...

Job was tested; but, was vindicated in the end. And what is unnecessary suffering? This is new to me.

But, still, sometimes we are satisfied for longer periods of time or non-temporally. Such as reading a good poem and remembering it due to its signifi...

I'm not sure what post you are addressing Valentinus?

I'm only generalizing for things which we want or need. People want various things for differing reasons. That I can be happy over owning a home or ap...

No, does that deny my logic?

But, doesn't the joy of owning a home or apartment override such negativism's? To have a place you can call "home" is a magical experience.

One always has a home, though, to park one's car. Isn't a "home" an important concept in our daily lives?

I mean to say that if all what is intelligible in life which are certain events and situations, then suffering, which stands out from such events and ...

Interesting post. Therefore philosophical quietism?

See my reply to Valentinus.

I answered with a positive in terms of his premises but not conclusion. In other words what is there beyond certain events and situations. In my opini...

I thought you had the correct reasoning but wrong conclusion here.

Fascinating. Thanks.

Likewise. Thanks!

Here's Schopenhauer on suicide in case anyone is wondering.

:)

What are your thoughts about attitudes, @"macrosoft"? Can they be changed, and how? An attitude is everything after all.

Let it come naturally, is what I think I'm trying to say.

Ok, glad you're not suicidal. Joking aside, life is pretty good nowadays. We don't have to worry about being drafted in some war. We have most of our ...

I mean, that it's unavoidable and always present. One cannot escape the confines of mortality. If one attempts for the greatest of goods, such as cont...