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Plato's dialogues were monologues. You are not me. I'm just trying to understand.

And a promise to injure?

The last bit is not about what is morally good. It is about what is considered such from a deontological framework. I was asking clearly, what makes s...

How is stating that "Not all promises are good" an example of moral relativism?

The second sentence above states "just because promising is always morally good"... Are you saying that promising to cause injury aren't promises, or ...

I wouldn't agree with that.

Fair enough, I suppose. I'm unclear still. You did say "...promising is always morally good".

Something here is troublesome to me... A promise can be sincere and true at the time of utterance(the expressed intent corresponds to the speaker's in...

Do you?

Moral judgment. Moral consideration. Moral discourse. Moral conceptions. Moral worthiness. Moral admonition. Moral thought/belief. Moral understanding...

Again, well done. This second parsing is similar to what I'd been thinking all along... At the time of utterance, a promise is not the sort of thing t...

Let's look again, shall we? If all opinion about the relative permissibility or recommendability or obligatoriness of interpersonal behavior that the ...

This made me laugh out loud... Still grinning.

Nicely done. I'm going to reply... I promise! :wink:

We're not. You are. If what counts as being moral in kind is being about the relative permissibility or recommendability or obligatoriness of interper...

If it is about the relative permissibility or recommendability or obligatoriness of interpersonal behavior that the person in question feels is more s...

I'm just making sure I have it right... So, being moral is being about the relative permissibility or recommendability or obligatoriness of interperso...

If morality is strictly delineated and/or defined as being moral opinion, which it is on your view - then it makes no sense to say that morality is op...

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Just making sure I'm following you... If all opinions about the relative permissibility or recommendability or obligatoriness of interpersonal behavio...

Morality is moral opinion?

Moving the goalposts.

Is it more than just sharing a namesake - being called such?

Moral judgment. Moral consideration. Moral discourse. Moral conceptions. Moral worthiness. Moral admonition. Moral thought/belief. Moral understanding...

Looks like a true statement about a particular kind of speech act to me. So, promising to kill another's family is always morally good. I cannot agree...

So, this gets to the problem in a hurry... People promise to cause injury. Assuming such promises cannot be honourable and virtuous... Either there is...

I understand the importance of interdependence. I understand, as well, that academic philosophy has had ongoing issues - seemingly irresolvable - for ...

Is there anything - on this view - that counts as immoral?

Ok. The derogatory remarks are rather unbecoming. I'm wanting to confirm and/or ensure that I have your position correct. So, on your view, all opinio...

I asked what counts as being "moral" in kind. Moral agents are a kind of agent. You answered by offering a criterion. The satisfaction of that criteri...

Not all promises are good. Not all threats are bad. Doesn't that wrap it up in the simplest, but more than adequate, terms?

The listener believed you... clearly. You were paid off as a means to avoid danger. That is a large part of the efficacy aspect. The promissory intent...

I would not assent to such an account. We agree here.

I do not think it serves us well to simply chalk this difference up to what we (arbitrarily?)think counts as being a promise. I'm simply pointing out ...

I have serious very well grounded objections to the notion of freely determinant will(free will). I'll leave those aside and address what I see to be ...

Interesting. How do you take account of the shared meaning between you and Red?

Insincerity is not equivalent to falsehood. In the last statement... I think you meant to write "That condition is inherent in a promise, though, beca...

Ah. For whatever reason, I interpreted the opposite... perhaps it is because what follows below seems to contradict what's directly above... If the di...

Some opinion can be true/false though. That's the way it is. If moral opinion can be true/false then it is most certainly relevant. So... All opinion ...

Relevant because???

So, it would follow that all opinions about the relative permissibility or recommendability or obligatoriness of interpersonal behavior that the perso...

If you mean this... I'm uncertain whether or not I understand. I'd be interested in your setting out of the a priori concepts...

So, on your view, no matter what unforeseen circumstances may arise, no matter what false pretense led to the promise... if one promises to do somethi...

Opinions can be true/false.

So, if person A has an opinion that they must act in whatever way it takes to acquire tremendous wealth and they feel that this is more significant th...

No. All promises do have moral implications according to my position, but as I've noted and asked of several different participants, even going to the...

Existential dependency is a relationship between different things. When something is existentially dependent upon something else it cannot exist prior...

What do you care for? You do not have use for truth, or what's true, or what can be true, or how true things become so...

Live by the sword...

The irony is thick when the above comes from one that mischaracterizes an argument about how an utterance of ought can be derived as an argument of/fo...