It remains to be demonstrated that hinge propositions are of the same type as propositions in general. Yeah, where is he? He was also arguing that hin...
It is valid reasoning. Seppo's argument is: All propositions (in general) are bearers of truth-value Hinge propositions are propositions (in general) ...
That would depend on how they differ. You cannot just assume that they are the same in the respect of being the same. Ya, that's my point. You've simp...
You're right, I didn't read closely enough. You said in your last post: You make a distinction here between hinge propositions and "propositions in ge...
What's wrong with the argument? A reminder of the definition that you introduced into the discussion: You have argued that a hinge proposition is a be...
I would say that the only “different positions” we can take wrt the truth or falsity of a proposition is that a proposition is either true or false. I...
93 shows that Wittgenstein is talking about Moorean (hinge) propositions at 94. 94 shows that hinge propositions are the background against which we d...
If you cannot acknowledge that ordinary propositions are not the same as hinge propositions, then it appears that you don't know what a hinge proposit...
Thanks for the link. Its opening paragraph states: So the article you cited in support of your claims does not limit the definition of a proposition t...
By the same logic, if it is a proposition then it must be justifiable, dubitable and capable of being known, because that is just what a proposition i...
But that is also in question here. Again, W does not refer to “hinge propositions” in OC. Also, if they cannot be doubted or known, then they are unli...
Unless you know of any other types, ordinary propositions are those which are not hinge propositions. Do you acknowledge that ordinary propositions ar...
Hence we know them? I haven’t made any such argument. I’m asking why they must have a truth value when they are not ordinary propositions and they are...
I don’t follow why you would accept that hinge propositions are not like ordinary propositions in the sense that hinge propositions are indubitable (a...
What reason is there to assume that hinge propositions are no different to ordinary propositions? It may be worth noting that Wittgenstein doesn't use...
As the horse is now dead, I would say that the horse no longer exists. Alternatively, an eternalist would say that the horse still exists in 1878, and...
You don't know what "both" means? Let's be clear: are you advocating a four-dimensionalist, eternalist view of time where time is a space-like dimensi...
As Moyal-Sharrock writes, from the article that @"Sam26" posted here: This also demonstrates that not all empirical statements can be hinge propositio...
My take, which will probably just be a terrible rehash of Moyal-Sharrock: I think it needs to be kept in mind that Wittgenstein is talking about empir...
Ask yourself that question. You have made clear your belief that O does not change in time, presumably due to its four-dimensional existence at both t...
To emphasise my point: You say that there is motion from (1,1) at t=1 to (2,1) at t=2; and You say that there is not motion from (1,1,1) to (2,1,2). P...
Then what has changed? The object being at t=1 and then at t=2 is also a change. How can you allow for the object to change position if you do not all...
You have still not answered the question of what an increase in the x-coordinate represents with respect to Banno's image or the hill. Of course it is...
Right, x=a. My point was that a-pixels of a given value are no different to their associated x-coordinates of a given value, because they are both ass...
This does nothing but replace x-coordinates with a-pixels. None of this explains what the increase (a+1 or x+1) represents or why there is an increase...
No. I'm asking what the increase in the x-coordinate - that you mentioned earlier - represents. This applies equally to your hill example. What does a...
This doesn't tell me what the increase in the x-coordinate represents. I imagine it represents something in space? I don't see why you've needed to in...
I’m asking you to explain this “approach” to the rightmost x-coordinate absent of time, so your analogy that includes time doesn’t help. You said earl...
It seems to me that you have ignored some of the more difficult questions I put to you, such as how a colour in Banno's image can "approach" the right...
How can the change have a direction without time? You said that the colour "changes over the distance from left to right". I think I understand what y...
You have variously referred to changes in the x-coordinate, distance, position and place. I have taken all these to amount to roughly the same thing. ...
That's great, except that (until now) you have been talking about a change in distance, not merely distance. What does it mean to say that there is a ...
One says "place" and one says "time". I invite you to also consider the idea of change-over-place (without time). In such a scenario, there is no chan...
I'm objecting to Banno's claim that there can be change-over-place irrespective of time. The question I asked you was: My question has everything to d...
I take it, then, that your interest here is not really to do with debates over the ontological nature of time itself, or perhaps even to do with the p...
Hell yeah it's in question. @Banno's original claim was that: That is, Banno has claimed that change can occur "from place to place" without time (bec...
It's a different example, so I don't see how my question is invalid. Because you said there was metaphorical motion. Unless you can actually move "pla...
It’s your responsibility to clarify what you meant by “as you move from left to right”, not mine. You explained it as a “metaphorical motion”, which i...
What’s the right question? If the motion is metaphorical then the change is also metaphorical (i.e. not actual). I don’t know about “degree-of”. The m...
We were not attempting to define time or change. We were instead criticising Banno's bizarre assertion that "Time and change have no special relation"...
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