I'm not sure I follow. Non-presentists take the present moment to be unreal despite its perspectival (indexical) appearance. As someone with more pres...
I agree with this. The meaning of the word "present" is found in its use, and it can be used to mean the present second, minute, hour, day, month, yea...
The only change here is your implicit assumption of a change in perception as you look "from right to left", from room to room, or "from place to plac...
Two places might be different at a point in time, but nothing changes at a point in time. Time is required to get "from place to place" or to perceive...
We are told that his actions indicate that he attaches a meaning to the word, but not the right one. This is why only the last sentence of 269 is abou...
Where does it say at 258 that he does not or cannot know what "S" refers to? What is it that "S" refers to that he does not or cannot know? Probably b...
How is the incoherence shown to be a result of the private language user’s knowledge at 258? Pretending one understands means appearing to understand ...
What's your argument for this? How is the private language described at 269 completely coherent? 258 does not mention the word "know". You are conflat...
Of course you don't actually know what Wittgenstein means by a private language. No wonder this has been so difficult. Here are two separate explanati...
The private language described at 243 is one where the word/symbol refers to what can only be known by the speaker. This is not merely “a sensation” o...
In case you've forgotten, Wittgenstein is investigating the possibility of a private language. Moreover, he is investigating the possibility of a priv...
Anybody else with a manometer could also measure his blood pressure. That's what makes it publicly verifiable whether or not his blood pressure is ris...
I've read it, thanks. The use of "S" cannot be private in the scenario of 270, as I explained. There is a disagreement. Unlike you, I don't presuppose...
The person does not "develop a use for "S"". Wittgenstein asks us to imagine this development, but upon closer inspection, this development cannot get...
How does that help your reading of Wittgenstein? This presupposes that the words have an established (private) use, are used to refer, and it is only ...
Everything okay, fella? You barely even touched my post. It's not my logic; it's Wittgenstein's. Did you read the part of PI 7 that I quoted above? He...
How does (iii) differ from (i) and (ii)? I quoted PI 7. You failed to comment. Then that language-game would constitute the language. See PI 7. Theref...
So your two conditions of the private language are: (i) it refers to one's immediate private sensations; and (ii) another person cannot understand it....
If we cannot understand what Wittgenstein means by a private language, then how does his private language have two conditions as you claim? How can th...
You said earlier that "this proposed "private language" can be interpreted as such a conditional proposition." That is, you earlier seemed to be sayin...
You're rushing ahead again and you've missed my point. Let's be clear on what the private language is before you start denouncing it as incoherent. Wh...
The premise is not only that the language refers to one's private sensations. The premise is that the language refers to "what can only be known to th...
What language? We need to know what sort of language it is before we can answer the question of whether we can imagine such a language. Wittgenstein t...
The 3rd edition of 243 states: The individual words of this language are to refer to what can only be known to the person speaking; to his immediate p...
The word "So" indicates that another person cannot understand the language because, or as a consequence, of the preceding sentence, which states that ...
Your accusation that I’m misreading is supported by a fictional quote. He does not say “refer to what can only be known to the person speaking”. Get t...
That wouldn’t work. The words of such a language would not refer to “what only the speaker can know.” Other people can know external things. Other peo...
It has been addressed. These "two distinct things" are both described and/or entailed by: "The words of this language are to refer to what only the sp...
The "first condition" is not only that it "refers to private sensations". The "condition" - if you must call it that - is that "the words of this lang...
We were discussing 243, not 256. Remember? You said: I pointed out to you how very relevant the mention of "sensations" is, then you tried to distract...
At least you finally recognise the relevance of sensations at 243. I don't know how many times you need to read 243 until it sinks in. Don't think, bu...
Explaining it again does not change the fact that you described the same condition twice. You claimed that a private language had two conditions but y...
You have not described two conditions. You have described the same condition of privacy twice. If there actually were two conditions the second one wo...
What insufficiency? You said in your previous post "I don't see how the mention of "sensations" at 243 is relevant". Now you claim to be "pointing out...
You cannot ignore these parts of 243: You are ignoring everything here except "The words of this language are to refer to what only the speaker can kn...
Nice cherry picking. Are you blind? How many times do I need to quote the passage from 243 before you comprehend that it contains the word "sensation"...
Wittgenstein clearly specifies it is the recurrence of a sensation. I don't see why you call it "whatever it is". Yes, I agree. Again, why call it a "...
What I wrote is almost verbatim from 258. Seriously? It's "a phrase of language" that you have much difficulty with. According to the description, he ...
This is not how Wittgenstein dictates the example. He associates "the recurrence of a certain sensation" with the sign "S" and writes the sign "S" in ...
That's not how language works, and not what you've been saying for several pages now. It is "S" which supposedly refers to the sensation, not the sens...
Once again, "sensation" is not ambiguous given the context, as it clearly refers to an "inner experience" such as pain. It doesn't seem sensible for i...
Why do you need this question to be answered in the context of 258? Does "C" have only a private use? No one else but the diarist is supposed to know ...
If you think you have to guess what "sensation" means then you have missed the surrounding context. If you think it's necessary to guess what type of ...
Comments