First off most atheists don't deny god's existence, they just don't believe in him, so really there is no action to be judged. Second I'm not trying t...
I don't believe a fetus can indeed desire to be alive. But correct me if I'm wrong. And it seems wise to me to demarcate human life and personhood. No...
If god's moral commands are entirely dependent upon his will then they are arbitrary by definition. If its arbitrary for me then its arbitrary for god...
Yes but even if one takes the first horn god's commands are arbitrary. This is just a fact. If you say that these commands are made good by the proper...
Perhaps this will be better. I'm ascribing supreme prudence to my grandmother who, being supremely prudent in nature, issues supremely prudent command...
What would you say if I attributed supreme prudence to my grandmother's nature, which is an ontological statement, and then claimed in the same breath...
Yes, I believe you are right. People look for meaning in a frightening world, often times turning to dogma and faith-based belief. They often times fi...
Yes, most secular people do seem to define good and evil for themselves. Not certain I understand the bit about increasing and decreasing meaning thou...
I'm trying to show that god being omnibenevolent is not a way of escaping Euthyphro's Dilemma. I'm judging by your lack of meaningful response that I ...
That's not a moral command but rather learned prudence. But even so her commands are intelligible because they are not tied to her nature but rather j...
I posted this in another thread but its relevant here too. There is one objection to divine command theory that I used to find definitive but now real...
William Lane Craig has a seemingly worthy objection to my posts: https://www.reasonablefaith.org/media/reasonable-faith-podcast/the-euthyphro-dilemma-...
Yes I believe its possible for god's commands to be moral, but one has to sacrifice the omnibenevolence bit. The now boring main issue is the arbitrar...
Yes but if god is omnibenevolent and all that is good, and his moral commands are also defined as good then his commands would be: "God commands god."...
On point. But he actually says that nothing he's saying applies to normative ethics; he is just making a claim about the objectivity of god's commands...
What about mentally ill people and those with personality disorders? This is exceedingly obvious and doesn't need to be stated in my opinion. This: is...
Well I'm a white man so maybe I'm moralizing here, but I don't think that no one cares about the child; in fact I would argue that people care too muc...
You didn't answer my earlier question. What's your argument against human life being intrinsically valuable because that life can eventually feel plea...
Well I respect you then. Many are very inconsistent on that point. I don't think Tzeentch is depreciating the value of fetuses, but rather the autonom...
But its a vegetable. It cannot feel; it is not sentient or conscious. If you think its wrong to kill fetuses that are non-persons then you must have a...
I don't think the unenlightened is arguing that abortion is okay because its fashionable or because its socially acceptable; I believe they're saying ...
Would you argue that a justification for abortion arises out of the existence of an autonomous person's rights? Because ending a human's life might be...
If god's commands are arbitrary, and not derived from moral facts, I see no reason to follow them and not one's own values. God has no commanding auth...
Quite frankly, Dingo, I don't understand half of what you say, and I have not been arguing in bad faith. I did indeed address you because you failed t...
The Internet Encyclopedia of philosophy. It's peer reviewed and says gods commands under divine command theory would be arbitrary. I think this can en...
I'm trying to show why Dennis Prager's worldview is not as consistent or based on sound reasoning as one might think. I just don't see how you can thi...
First off when I say "reasoned" I mean "not arbitrary". And yes, I would indeed assert that all moral facts must be derived from some sort of reasonin...
But it seems that if the correctness of god's commands depends entirely upon god's will and not upon reasoned and thus absolute moral facts it is inde...
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