You forget that SMT says machines can change types. There's no way it can fail! Your empirical statistical test will simply count 100% success rates, ...
There's also the Unruh effect. In theory if you were able to suspend your thermometer over a black hole with an anchor, due to the Unruh effect, it wi...
Not to voice agreement or disagreement, but one of the difficulties of Planck scale is that it's a precise scale... it's hard to square that against L...
A bit of a disclaimer speech... the degree to which a belief is warranted is equivalent to the strength of the justification of the belief. Justificat...
Illusion is the wrong word. Illusion suggests a percept, and the notion of free will you're describing is not a percept. Feelings of control, feelings...
I'm rearranging this for focus. No; my point is that the PoSR is superfluous, not foundational, to science. The slot machine theory isn't false; it's ...
Thank you, you too, and I mean that sincerely! Behind all these terminals, we're all just ordinary people. But let's keep the idle chat down (and the ...
And that thing in your OP comes from your intuitions. You have libertarian intuitions; that is, you intuit PAP. But you're not the only one with intui...
As a free will agnostic, I'm unconvinced by your ad hominem arguments and appeal to motive fallacies. I personally find the whole free will debate a b...
This sounds like an anachronism; the concept of free will traces back to the ancient Greeks... who were not exactly God of Abraham types. As far as th...
...and that's all that matters. Your PoSR analog does not apply to math. If you restrict PoSR to causality you can get out of this, but the causal ana...
Sure; I was involved in that interchange, but after your response to the necessity part, I didn't feel anything relevant changed. You questioned the r...
That's actually my question, in regards to this: I.e., the outcome will be what it will be anyway. So what? And again, that's my question, in regards ...
Let's backtrack. I agree that if (A1) the universe is deterministic, then (B) the outcome will be what it will be. However, I can derive (B) from a mu...
There's an aprocryphal story about Nostradamus visiting a lord who tests him by showing him two pigs, one white, one black, and asking him to predict ...
Hmmm... let's put this to the test. Have you seen Primer (link: IMDb)? Yes-ish maybe. It's curved; it can go in various directions, some of which reac...
Yes (see next). No . There's variation as well; see here for a case of visual tinnitus. It can get complex too: Charles Bonnet syndrome I would sugges...
Mathematics includes many fields, not just equations with equals signs on them. But provability is not just an analog of justification, but an example...
Okay, I think we're talking past each other then, because I was just saying addressing the metaphysics is the wrong conversation. I see @"Becky"'s quo...
I see this in your first response; I'll label them: (A) is a value-judgment; I offer that it has no meaning for a reason to continue living unless it ...
You're still walking through my playground. What does it mean to say humans should keep living, keep continuing, and keep procreating for reason X? Wh...
I realize you're scratching a metaphysical itch, but I'm scratching a semantic itch, and I posit that you have to cross my playground before you reach...
That does not follow; if "thing-itself" can refer to the thing-itself, so can "water" and so can "H2O". H2O may be theory laden, but it can still be u...
You seem to be losing the ability to understand what you're quoting. Mathematical conjectures are not judged based on the probability that they are tr...
Then I would say it probably understands things, but not necessarily that it's conscious. I don't have a great model for what it takes for something t...
Indeed it is, but that's a different question. You're asking a few of them! "Trained into us" is making an assumption; as is "learn to talk this way"....
What assumption? And who is making it? Okay, sure, let's think about that. We both call fire engines red, even though we have no idea if "my red" is "...
You're trivializing this though. First, the symbols "chips and dip" have to actually be related to what the symbols "chips and dip" mean in order to s...
Well, yeah, but humans are agents; the Chinese Room, not so much. To me that sounds very important, not mystically, but practically. If I were to ask ...
Not in the realm of mathematics; proof is generally the level we're looking for. What weaker sufficient reason would you apply to mathematics? Could y...
Correct. The worlds aren't fundamental; they're emergent. Also the name MWI is a bit of a misnomer; MWI doesn't posit multiple worlds... it posits tha...
Not quite. The cat branched when it "observed" (smelled) a system in superposition (between poison in the air and no poison in the air, resulting from...
"Normal sized living cat" is not in superposition; "normal sized cat" is (or more realistically, the contents of the box). The box is in a superpositi...
I'll do this first, because this is too important to leave at the bottom. Within the domain of math, per your definition, I read "sufficient reason" a...
This visual proof is a bit more elegant: http://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras/proof51.gif http://www.cut-the-knot.org/pythagoras#6 Simple version of...
That sounds like special pleading to me. But, okay. And what does greater mean? Surely snowflakes can cause avalanches, and hurricanes can result from...
You keep treating demonstrate/justify and logical proof as the same thing. All three are different things. You demonstrate something by just doing a t...
Sure. Here's a pdf copy; and here's an html one. (Context for others... these are links to Alan Turing's article "Computer machinery and Intelligence"...
I'm not after a gotcha or a fight; just demonstrating that there's genuine room for confusion here. I'll take your response as a no, so hopefully that...
Alright, let's turn this into a question then. In your original post, you said this: ...after which you offered: ...so, that reads like it possibly su...
I can only reply that I've seen people choke on this point. Also, the term Turing Test is a term of art with a literal meaning, so I'm not sure how ta...
I think you're missing the point. Yes, the TT involves having a conversation; but the conversation is limited only to a text terminal... that is, you'...
I think it's important to point out that those are two completely different things. "All" a computer needs to do to pass a Turing Test is say the righ...
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