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I agree totally. I agree again regarding the interpretation, but please elaborate a little regarding your conclusions.. For me, the conjunction of a u...

:up: It seems to me that nothing is an incoherent concept. At the very least "nothing" contains information about itself as nothingness, so its not no...

If computation and emotion are equiprimordial – in a system in motion, consciousness would work something like a two cylinder rotary engine. Self orga...

Yes , I agree entirely. The established mental apparatus is entirely geared towards a future world, and anticipates it as something recognized, from p...

I didn't mean them to be interpreted as separate aspects, but as primary and secondary ones. We are one integrated system. I am surprised. Heidegger i...

Initially we we must integrate novel information into our personally constructed reality, then subsequently we recognize it in terms of our integratio...

Or like there is cellular consciousness in communication with an extracellular consciousness. Feeling is an internal feedback loop - like one self org...

Thanks for the link. Sorry to reply so late, the house is full of visitors, and happy new year to you. I found your paper impeccably written and well ...

Thanks for the quite comprehensive background. The problem with putting new views forward in a format such as this forum is that initially quite a lot...

I don't agree with everything Thiese says, but the central theory seems good. He acknowledges determinism but adds an element of randomness to every i...

Um, :chin: I don't think this is so different to an ontology as an evolving process of self organization, except in respect to the role time plays in ...

No, everything self organizes. Including rocks :smile: over time they change from magma, to rock, to sand, to minerals, minerals can become amino acid...

:up: Descartes would have been more accurate to state that we are in a process of self organization. Not so much a being, or I am, but a becoming like...

:up: I think we are on the same page. Consciousness or self organization is not a special function, but an ordinary function all information energy an...

:up: According to Fritjof Capra the basic unit of cognition is a reaction to a disturbance in a state, and according to the Santiago theory of cogniti...

That is very nicely put, but I have one question for you - what is God? All abiogenesis theory, from the perspective of physics, biology, chemistry, a...

Well that's a relief! Yes, nothing is ultimately fixed and unchanging. In Descartes time this was not so obvious. Ship building was the high tech of t...

What do you mean - then nothing is happening? The teen years can be difficult, but 20s, 30s, 40s, etc, etc, are great.

You raise excellent issues that I've been grappling with for a long time. Self organization is hard to dispute, but it is a challenge to a lot of esta...

Hi, thanks for engaging. The term "self organization" is universally accepted in abiogenesis theory as the cause of life. It is a notion that goes bac...

There are very few things we understand definitively. The chap in the video below has a much more advanced handle on it then I do. The first 10 mins i...

Philosophy is information about the philosophers consciousness. At its simplest consciousness is mind activity, but a better way to understand it is a...

The way I understand it, self organization occurs when, enabled by intrinsic qualities, disparate materials integrate and start acting as a unit. They...

Whilst I don't understand it definitively, I understand that the concept ( self organisation ) could explain all those questions that you pose. All th...

I can not say I understand the metaphysics of self organisation either. I'm only just beginning to understand it. I can say that it is a process that ...

I like and agree with most of what you say. We are not that far apart. :smile: The universe is in a process of self organization, and hence so too are...

Exactly. We are an evolving process of self organization. We are not a static - I am. We think because we are conscious, there is no choice in the mat...

But why do you think, and what exactly are you? I bet you are a different person today then you were 5 years ago, or 10, 20, 30, etc....years ago.

:up: Brilliant.

I suspect emotions / feelings are the fundamental force that causes behavior , as per the Philosophical Zombie argument. I'm certain all life possesse...

The entire universe is a process of self organization - cause and effect, not individuated pockets, and every moment of consciousness is a moment of s...

That would be the fundamental unit of cognition - basic cause and effect. The sand acknowledges the pressure of the footprint and gives way accordingl...

If self organization is the fundamental law of the universe, then it is entirely open ended as to what can arise. Consciousness is not a fixed state -...

According to Fritjof Capra, the fundamental unit of cognition is a reaction to a disturbance in a state.

Yes I was. It is a wider concept, but one enabled by feelings / emotions. Yes, it takes a long time to sift through all that baggage to arrive at an u...

Yes, its rusted in to the psychie. Its interesting that Descartes was one of the first people to consider self organization. I appropriated it from ab...

I'm glad you approve. Welcome to the forum. :smile:

What else? :smile:

The thread really needs a definition of consciousness. In my understanding, consciousness = an evolving process of self organization, and everything i...

Yes I agree. The self organization of the body creates consciousness, which can then reflect back upon itself, to reflect upon the process that create...

That is an interesting question, and I will tell you how I understand it. Art is an expression of human consciousness, the definition can be found her...

Thanks for the referral. Lots of excellent insights that support how I've come to understand things. That the basic unit of cognition is a reaction to...

A thought can be described in a similar way. As the current result of a process. It would seem there is a process of self organization at play at the ...

Yes he was. I don't agree with all he says, but systems, process, and information, is the way forward , in my opinion. Holism it is, and cause and eff...

Matter is a symbol. It is symbolic of the process that created it. Therefore panpsychism, through the process of self organization. According to Fritj...

I think you would need to provide some proof / reason of what causes "I am".

I would say consciousness is a process rather then a property. A process of self organization, in my opinion. Pantagruel has put me onto Fritjof Capra...

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Abiogenesis theory, from the perspectives of biology, chemistry, geophysics,, astrobiology, biochemistry, biophysics, geochemistry, molecular biology,...

Yes, the idea comes from abiogenesis theory, and the phrase life is an expression of consciousness, which I take to be logically impeccable. Considere...