True, but this industry has essentially bought the politicians. There are also other interests involved. The military contractors like Boeing and Lock...
Street, I can always count on you to put me in the terrible position of sounding like Stephen Pinker. But you agree, I think, that there are differenc...
The US invasion of Afghanistan was, from the beginning, a war crime. The parallels to Vietnam are striking. Both invasions, both war crimes, both deva...
It's not a misdirection at all. It's exactly the point: CO2 has increased to levels not seen in 800,000 years. Temperatures have risen accordingly. Th...
What newspaper? No scientific journal was saying an ice age was coming. This claim has been debunked for years. No one said this in 1984. Literally no...
You are being political. Climate denial is political. Much like the tobacco industry propaganda, the fossil fuel industry has used social issues to as...
Interesting that my post would elicit a political response, given by two "recent" members. Yes, climate is an element of creation. Nuclear weapons are...
Worth taking a look around. * A huge fire in Siberia is casting out smoke for 3,000 miles. * Greece – burning. * California – burning. * Oregon – burn...
A good question, yes. Related to the structure of a corporation, indirectly. I'd argue the predominant conception of "wealth" is one based in material...
No no. I don’t want to do anything of the kind. It’s true I value labor unions, but I don’t want to force anything. I’d like removing, in fact, some l...
Yes, of course. Just like what happens now. But those solutions aren’t working— which is why you mentioned “innovative”, I’m sure, and with which I ag...
True, wages aren’t profits. When I said that I was thinking it would be clear I meant a raise in wages— i.e., giving the workers more— but fair enough...
I meant to put numbers on the answer: Percent of earnings (2007-2016) 55% stock buybacks 39% dividends 6% everything else https://www.brookings.edu/wp...
True -- as is also true when we vote for politicians. But that's a step above having no vote whatsoever. Furthermore, I'm not confusing the two. In wo...
Appreciate the kind comments. Caught me on an off day— I’m sure I’ll be back to being an asshole soon enough. Right, and even private corporations are...
Not nonsense, just legally wrong. But it's true, I do use it to refer to workers (rather than shareholders) being the "owners" of the company, because...
No. No. Shareholders being the owners of a corporation is a hologram. A corporation is not owned by anyone; a corporation, by law, as a legal person, ...
Well compare Microsoft to Mondragon, for example. Both corporations. One (it's claimed) is owned by shareholders, the other (also claimed) by workers....
I’ll repeat: corporations are legal persons, not real people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_person Look no further than Citizens United to get...
They are legal persons, not real persons. And they do own themselves, legally. That’s not the same thing as running itself, which is done by real huma...
It should. If your professor believes this, it’s not uncommon. It’s also completely wrong. Shareholders are owners of shares, which are contracts with...
:yawn: :lol: Shareholders are not the owners of a corporation, nor do they sell the corporation. If you want me to explain it to you, I will. If you w...
How brave. Good for you. So you’ve never worked in a company or held a job— or you’ve agreed with all the decisions they make. If you’re somewhere in ...
Then say it’s a lie that it matters if workers own the company or not. To claim I’m lying about the FACT that they own the company is wrong — and I ha...
Fine. The question still stands: lack of faith in what? It wasn’t rhetorical. Y Because it’s more fun seeing where people are in their understanding a...
Agreed. Bringing democracy at work, and having the workers own and run the companies themselves, is even more crucial. If we want to improve social co...
No. Because I’m talking about the structure of corporations, which is a specific type of institution (or organization). Corporate governance is connec...
So I’m selling slavery under the coercive lie that workers “own the place.” Workers ownership is a lie and hallucination. According to you. To which t...
Is this a serious question? No, of course it's not a silver bullet. But it's an important place to start. Assuming we value democracy and the empowerm...
? It's not like it's a club, for God's sakes. We're talking about a form of organizing a business. I have not once characterized cooperatives as a-pol...
Cooperatives exist all over, and are run exactly that way. And to argue that capitalism is "efficient" is beyond laughable. Efficient for shareholders...
Democracy is a stupid idea. Co-ops are a stupid idea. Interesting perspective. :smirk: I'll take the word of those who work in co-ops over yours any d...
According to who? Doesn't matter, because it's irrelevant. Yes and Lenin had ties to Marx, and Biden has ties to Adam Smith, and I have ties to Fundam...
Which proves how well indoctrination works. To convince the slaves to love their slavery is an impressive feat, begging your pardon. I don't fault you...
Since the term "anarchism" is meaningless until it's explained, I have nothing to support. Certainly not here, which is not the topic under discussion...
No. It is both worker owned and partly worker managed. Not all the managers are from the workforce -- some are brought from outside. Who decides that?...
Yes, we know you're not in favor of democracy. You've made that clear many times. You prefer rule of the minority, the elites, over the majority. That...
Right, exactly. Easy. It's simply moving democracy into the workplace. Much like democracy in the political sphere, it does not mean workers vote on e...
Indeed. There's many misunderstandings about this, however. Given years of indoctrination, even common sense notions become hard to see and understand...
The US spends more on healthcare than any country on planet earth and has some of the worst outcomes. That's just factual. Why do some rich Spaniards ...
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