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Now you are confusing statements and propositions.

Yep. Perhaps..

It was a rhetorical question.

I can't see how any of this waffle explains the creation of Loa loa filariasis. God remains culpable.

Odd, then that Muslims 'Give Most To Charity', Ahead Of Christians, Jews And Atheists, What to make of that?

Why add that? Propositions can be true and yet not known, not believed and not justified. Get that right, and we can move on.

So @"Harry Hindu" refuses to make the distinction we are using in this discussion. That means he just drops out of contention. He is not saying anythi...

You appear to be confusing truth with belief.

Yes.

A statement's being unprovable does not render it false. Talk to Gödel.

So a state of affairs is not a statement. If I ask "what it the state of affairs that makes the statement "Snow is white" true?', is your answer that ...

And...? I pointed out that "every effect has a cause" cannot be either proved, nor disproved. How does what you have said relate to this?

So we are agree that there are things we do not know. Hence, is not at contention.

So are there things you do not know? Or do you know everything? Or are we embarking on some word game?

I don;t see why. That is, I don't follow your comment. After all, I know what white is, and what snow is, and that s\now is indeed usually white, and ...

"Determine"? "Decide" would be better. As in, the justification is why you decided to believe the statement. But notice that both belief and justifica...

What has justification to do with truth?

It's not mine. But I will take the credit, if you insist.

But which, if any, of these are the Truth, as opposed to true?

Something like that is the only way it could be made to work; but even "a three-fold thingy" is a step too far. Consider: https://encrypted-tbn0.gstat...

The best way to think of it is as a definition of "=".

How could you possibly be so sure, if it is a work in process?

Perhaps truth is much simpler than philosophers tend to claim. Perhaps there is nothing to say about Truth.

Is that so? How odd.

But religions just make shit up, while philosophers... Hm. Give me a minute.

Theology is incoherent? Surely not.

Religion works by not taking truth seriously. Hence, philosophy is superior to religion.

So the disease of philosophy is the need to, combined with the impossibility of, stating the Truth... And the cure is...

If only that were all that Christians did...

Indeed; all that is needed is that one stop.

How could you know that this is true? How could you show it to be false? So where does it stand?

Death is not an event in a philosopher's life.

Indeed; Harry could have said that the claim is they are a male or female, which are claims about sex.

So we make sense of gender in terms of sexual characteristics? Then how is it that the gender of an individual is set by what they feel, and not their...

If someone is male, but wishes to be treated as a woman, I don't see an issue. If someone is female, but wishes to be treated as a man, no problem. Bu...

But there is clearly a distinction to be made between a proposition being true, and its being verified as true. There are, after all, unverified true ...

And atheists are being religious in claiming not to have a religion. Twaddle.

You appear to think this cogent. To my eye it is incoherent.

SO what?

:meh:

You may have let that utilitarian rubbish have too great an influence on your thinking. If gender is a constraint, it is one that we are able to modif...

Just a note to all, that when someone asks a question such as this, we ought all ignore it. No replies would be so much more interesting than any.

For clarity I am using sex, male, female; and gender, man, woman.

"Gender" is not meaningless. We make much use of the distinction. The question is, is it coherent to talk of gender in terms of feelings when gender i...

Choose your criteria with care.

One of the issues brought out by this discussion is the conflict between a certain view of feminism, and trans politics. Feminism points out that the ...

Too hard to follow.

So I shouldn't make jokes about Trump's organ being cut short?

I think it should have been left open for another nine posts.

But I still like the idea of making a single post, which leads to over 100 replies without further comment.