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Materialism There's a fair bit of finesse needed here. The root is matter, the first advocates being the Ancient Greek atomism and their friends. The ...

Well, that opening post is... embarrassing. 180's reply is about all that one could do with such a poor opening - try again, 3017.

Are you agreeing with me? Just checking.

Then why end in aporia?

An odd one. Glad he's gone.

Nuh. In Canberra, we pronounce the "L".

Good call.

I can't see that this answers my reply. It seems to me that the reply to the god/gods is pretty straight forward, as set out by @"Fooloso4". I agree t...

That made me laugh.

I did: That is the equivalence of the Will of God and the Good doesn't tell us what to do, and so is useless.

Anyway, I think Midgley misfires. While philosophers might explicitly address the myths and ideologies the rest of us take for granted, there are othe...

Cheers. You would see the point, given your activities. Oh, perhaps you are right, but I'm not sure that matters. Random tabloid articles and fictitio...

I had hoped that the straight-thinkers might be dissuaded from posting by binding the discussion to the dialogue, and indeed for a few pages they were...

That looks vaguely Hegelian - the antithesis is needed in order to articulate the difficulties with the thesis and hence form the synthesis. It just a...

Seems to me I need to make the point again. Morality is not about collectives, it's about the Other. The poverty of the myth of the individual is that...

Never read him. Links?

I am somewhat puzzled that Žižek is not mentioned more hereabouts. I gather that he has no traction in 'merica? Perhaps they prefer their home-grown l...

Consider a Koch snowflake.... finite area, infinite circumference.

Abelard seems not to have so thought; contradicted by Bernard at the Council of Sens 0f 1140. But this is a side issue of little interest.

Not all of them. There' another question here; since I can do evil, I can do something that god cannot do. So I am in at least one way more able than ...

An intuition with which I might sometimes agree; I'm not convinced that "...is good" works a predicate, at least not in the way "...is round" does. Bu...

So the question is, is stuff good because it is loved by god, or is it loved by god because it is good?

A reasonable approach. It's a classic case of concepts being employed beyond their remit. So, if we accept that there is a god who is all good, such a...

Cool. The angle I wanted to explore is the application to monotheism. Hence the questions to Janus.

Laughable. To truly understand human nature, one must have what I would call the “disabled experience”. It's the bungled and botched who know where it...

As do I; it remains to be seen if there is some interesting special pleading on behalf of the monotheists. Anticipating @"Janus"' argument, if god is ...

Much better. Thanks.

It's too ingrained for me to easily move past it. Just asking "What do you mean by..." in a discussion of Socratic method rings all sorts of alarm bel...

I'd like to see how this connection works. Can you fill in the gaps?

...and yet in the process you and I have concluded that what is pious and what is beloved of god are distinct. Are we justified in this, if the end is...

Good - I had hoped you might bring this here. Seems to me we are looking at about 9a, and that Euthyphro adjusts his position to what is beloved by al...

...I'm not familiar with this.

Then watch. Or read the texts provided and question.

It's a rather neat, short example of Socratic method at work. It, or similar dialogues, ought be basic to the education of any with pretences to philo...

It was ever so. The conclusion is aporia; an impasse; a hurried withdrawal. Yes, this thread is a branch from a zombie. But we might take the point th...

Here: http://classics.mit.edu/Plato/euthyfro.html And an audio here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgd9aBus53Q

Sweet! Thanks.

Doubtless...

It's a good policy. I don't know if history records the success of Euthyphro's case against his father. I wonder if it went for page after page, with ...

Sure. You have heard the apocryphal Indian myth of one's soul being like two wolves? Which do we feed? Seems as there is much need to build the common...

Scotty from Marketing makes decisions firstly to appease marginal voters and secondly to accomodate Liberal ideology. His capacity for spin, for appea...

Indeed. But one might adopt an ideology that discourages compassion. If one were to advocate behaviours that worked for one's own profit, for example,...

I'm glad you saw the joke. We need more straight thinkers willing to do the Right Thing.

I'm bothered that one can set out "the natural characteristics of human life" on the one hand and yet accept there "should be a range of views, opinio...

Spot on. I'll put undue emphasis on the plural - it's people, not individuals. Morality begins when one takes the Other into consideration. An ideolog...

The penultimate paragraph:

Sure, but even in that rejection you continue to assume that individuals have primacy in social processes. For you the ideology of individualism remai...

Hence my puzzlement that Joshs thinks "We find something better and only then do we see the limits of the previous approach". Recognising the problem ...

You might enjoy the Midgley article cited in Philosophical Plumbing. It explores the link between overindulged individuality and the myth of the socia...

Bart has fallen back to ad homs. That marks the end of a cycle in the discussion. I recall such straight thinkers in my introductory logic classes. I ...