I'm well aware of Davidson's views, and while I have some sympathy for them, this is not what the present discussion is about. The orthodoxy is that b...
Perhaps. It does seem to me you are obsessing over a minor point. If I were to say that I am choosing to use the term "belief" only for those things t...
Yes, Harry, words can be used to talk about things. But they can do much more than just refer. The problem with a purely referential theory of languag...
Oh, there's plenty more. Most involve referring to things in order to do stuff with them. Have a look at "How to do things with words". It's been comm...
@"creativesoul" Take a look at Propositional Attitude Reports It is an article about the actual difficulties with propositional attitudes. I go along ...
No, Harry. It does not refer to anything; it does something. It begins the conversation. But you will continue to try to force it into your referentia...
The possible world stuff is not that important. Nothing much hangs on the use of "proposition" in "propositional attitude" - as the article says, "sta...
Yep. It's not referential. That's what you asked for. It might show you how the notion of proposition fits into the belief stuff. Yep. That's why I'm ...
Indeed, no one has dealt wit the logic of your OP. I don't think logic is high on the agenda this year. Or it might be that the structure of your argu...
I don't know how to respond to that. Try this: What is the subject of "the cat is on the mat"? I would say it is the cat. But what is the subject fo "...
Whereas I think there's a misunderstanding here. Beliefs can be expressed in words. What is expressed in certain acts goes beyond words, and hence bey...
Any fact can be stated. That's what a fact is, and that's what is said in Tractates 1 & 2, and I think these among the views that carried forward into...
That seems to me the best grammar for beliefs. Their structure is a relation between someone and a proposition such that they hold the proposition to ...
Again with the notion of prelinguistic propositions. Seems discussing them can't be avoided. So you must have some way to square this with "The world ...
I had a similar conversation with a refugee who had both legs removed curtesy of an American cluster bomb, and on waking would need to check if he had...
What I've learned about multivalued logic over the last few months has left me a bit less reproachful of anti-realism. There may be ways of constructi...
There's a distinction between being true and being known to be true. There are true statements that are not known to be true. Yes, that's presuming re...
I think they are. One might read "Here is a hand" as a definition of what counts as a hand, or as a real object. That's a way of understanding Moore -...
Why not? It's in the original article, in the one mentioned above and I've presented it several times myself, as well as even Hanover's repeating it i...
Poor leadership has meant that covid is now not only out of control, but unmeasurable. Here's why we have no clear idea of what is happening. https://...
The key difference is that a hinge proposition is not to be doubted. An assumption might be subjected to subsequent rejection, as in a reductio argume...
The question was, who decides what is real? Now I'm happy to do it myself, if you like; but I had thought you might like to have a say. I do sometimes...
I have trouble sometimes differentiating between Hanover and your good self. The Yiddish doesn't help. Besides, this whole forum, indeed, philosophy i...
There have indeed been a string of extraordinarily poor posts on this thread, I quite agree. Posts that glory in the non sequitur and the incoherent. ...
There you go. Incontrovertible. Hence we can conclude that whatever else might be said about the "argument" in @"Agent Smith"'s OP, it reaches the wro...
The criticism offered to @"Harry Hindu" is not too far from that offered to @"creativesoul". There's a way of thinking that supposes, given that we ta...
Cheers. The fact that the immoral literal interpretation is held to be true by a great number of your fellow-travellers, despite your sophistic brilli...
You can quote someone by highlighting their text; a pop up will appear that will link their name and the text. As here: You have come in after what is...
So you agree with the argument in the article cited in the OP. The rest is in your imaginings, and after 27 pages of stuff which is not related to tha...
@"creativesoul", @"neomac" It's wryly amusing to find oneself again the topic of discussion. Let me know if you would like me to chime in. For a negot...
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