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Typo or I didn't...

So which, if not all, of talking about talking to seeing are we talking about?

And the via is relevant how? As grounding the pointing fantasy in physics? Edit: also, talking to isn't talking about.

:up: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/309821

Oh gosh, is that my fault, for suggesting that offside is about vagueness, not induction? And you thought I meant induction is about vagueness, not th...

Well it illustrates the opposite, because it proceeds step by discrete step. But a continuum can make the vagueness ineliminable, yes. "No vagueness",...

Presumably plus-quus isn't in doubt as a case of Kripgenstein, at least? But compare blue-grue if you want another (or very close). I was questioning ...

Admirable caricature of the standard defense of an essay fortified against all imagined objections, so that anyone who disagrees must be wrong. Althou...

I disagree. You have potentially an excellent forum for point/counterpoint, marred mostly (not entirely) by people writing essays at each other. And n...

Oh, I wonder. Not Quine, though, obviously. Glad you did.

Then they fail to convey Quine's point, so I'll have a go. A uniquely (as far as we know) human faculty is for pointing words and pictures at things, ...

Yeah indeed, hence my parenthetical edit that you likely didn't see.

Ain't that the root of all our (thinking we have) problems?!

It helps to drop the second pair of quote marks in each case, no? I.e. "run" points to run(ning), "Joe" points to Joe and "cat" points to cat?

... or as many as you like. I think you're back on Plus/Quus. Just saying, offside rule disputes may be a good example of a different (interesting) pr...

Except that one such intermediate shade is sufficient, usually, to facilitate perfectly reliable separation of black and white. Not that such a separa...

Cool. So why do you say, and not see the point of, ? And earlier, why react in alarm to my response here, ? After all, you volunteered the comparison ...

Oh, I get it. I'm right to interpret your "concepts" as mental events analogous to general terms like adjectives. (No?) But when I blithely speak of u...

What about insofar as we're using concepts to talk about (e.g. compare and sort) the unique instances? Not fine? E.g., Is that fine?

Ok, but I thought you were happy to at least class all the particular cases of yellow-wavelength-reflection together as cases (albeit different partic...

Particular in the sense of general but awaiting a clear physical definition (which would decide if a particular brain state was an instance of it)?

Ok. One more thing, for now. This property... is it meaningful to ask: what is it? E.g., I want to ask: is it a disposition or ability to reflect the ...

Ok. One more thing, for now. This property... is it meaningful to ask: what is it? E.g., I want to ask: is it a disposition or ability to reflect the ...

Ok, and "yellowness" might be a property of my experience while perceiving an object reflecting a certain wavelength?

Oh yes, I knew that. So you assume a physicalist basis, but properties are part of it, not something you would (like Goodman) expect to construct?

Cool. Goodman was agnostic as to what we construct from what, though. Are you siding with what he would have called a phenomenalist basis, as against ...

And we construct quantities from qualities, a la Goodman in Structure of Appearance?

What about higher/lower... more/less... same/different ? Btw, less words is more :up: :up: :up:

Going on my to-do list. :up:

Just in case pictures help anyone with the wiki proof. Grateful for notification of errors, or suggestions for further signposting or clarification. S...

I just meant comparing or defining them at all is a challenge. (Fool's errand!) Yes, exactly... to say nothing of rhythm, tone, dynamics etc. I think ...

Yes, along with all manner of analog features, not always preserved from one performance to the next, a melody contains a "core" pattern of relative p...

Grateful for a brief outline.

You should probably take that up with the OP, as the whole sentence is, Willow, I think the only semblance of common ground among everyone (else) here...

But then you not only reinforce the received, mythical psycho-sexual essences called genders and orientations, you invent some more and call them bear...

:roll:

Political, religious, economic, philosophical, musical, sexual and gender subversives... I expect them to subvert, because I see them subvert.

Obviously at least half of economic and political theories try to understand money as a social construction, not a natural or theological one. So your...

Don't let people think you actually oppose gender-non-conformism, though? As though you think conventional genders are natural?

Seems to me that the lost tempers and tribal signalling are mainly about this. @"Swan" (and I, and possibly @"Bitter Crank", @"Terrapin Station" and @...

They actually are named after him according to Wikipedia. Evidently the present owners don't consider Gottfried's mug a selling point, sadly. Nice bis...

I can cheer you up. See yourself as an information processing machine (don't go away...) levels more complex than any artificial model, but still a ma...

Can anything? (... support a normative?)

Can it support it?

"Essence", "in themselves", "ideally", "subjective aspect"... For the modern nominalist, all of these notions deserve the same treatment as (and proba...

You know that scene with the cinema queue in Annie Hall, where Woody is lucky enough to (ahem) marshal Marshall McLuhan against the bloke quoting him?...

And I said, that doesn't fit well with the claim that attempts to define and explain it are futile. I proposed, as a way forward, clarification of the...

Agreed, and it suggests several less clear cases that might be interesting. Like... me petting, or holding, the cat while drunk or asleep... or, Alexa...

Not with that attitude... Yes! Please! What kinds of cat-petting experiences are clearly conscious and which unconscious? Let's play... :sigh: Really?...

Dualism worthy of Descartes.