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I think religions in general are suceptible to 'idle chatter' because it appears that they ultimately tend to converge on a concept of 'ineffability' ...

Unfortunately Sherlock did not have the opportunity to read about Thomas Kuhn's notion of 'paradigms'. Simplistically, whtat we mean by 'scientific un...

Too many comments to handle individually at this time.. 1. I'm not going to define 'rambling', but if pushed I could give a few recent examples. 2. I ...

You are correct about the potential parochial and arbitrary nature of 'belief', but It may go deeper than that, since 'religious belief' for some is a...

I'm not aware of insulting anybody in particular except one religious 'troll' who has found a refuge here after being given short shrift, elsewhere (O...

Point taken about those who put 'continental philosophy' in a 'gibberish box'. I put that down mostly to knee jerk fear of iconoclasm and restricted e...

Well the only rejoinder on 'The Philosophy Forum', I have to that, is that there are 'interests' and then there are 'philosophical interests.':smile:

I don't 'read'them, since I find them 'unreadable' ! My criticism is about the frequency of these threads relative to other forums. I'm fairly new her...

I agree with your deconstruction of the word 'creation'. The issue for religionists would of course be whether they could 'swim' at all, if we take aw...

The issue for me is that for 'philosophy' to have a separate status from 'bar room banter' or 'word salad', it needs to be grounded in consensual sema...

I dont think that 'determinists' actually look at 'creation' as 'emergence', or that 'observers' are required to specify what fonstutes as 'an emergen...

This is a tautology. By use of the word 'ethically' you have already singled out the word 'sex' as 'a special relationship between people'. The origin...

Nice hunting ! Try also 'philosophy of neuroscience', which seems to result in attributing the 'hunt' itself to an epiphenomenon of neural functioning...

To All, Thankyou for the responses on a thread I thought had been 'closed'. I was asked what an atheist would see as 'quality' in a discussion about r...

And maybe I'm the aspiring butler !

I agree there is a traditional distinction between 'knowlege' and 'belief' but these pragmatically involve 'degree of confidence', rather than that mo...

No. 'Being' implies continuity, whereas 'belief' implies segmentation. We might conceive of 'belief' as a statement about the current 'state of being'...

Sorry, you've lost me. 'Belief' is not 'a property'. Its a noun implying a state of mind characterized by confidence in an idea without sufficient obs...

No. There is no 'logic' which undermines belief in 'God' unless that belief gives 'God' essential properties which can be empirically tested or observ...

A mythical rose, by any other name, would smell just as phoney to atheists ! ...Indeed, in terms of Shakespeare milking....'A plague on all their fair...

If by 'dimensions' you mean 'independent (orthogonal) factors', as in 'factor analysis', then that might make sense. However, whether you concur on th...

To all. This is NOT a thread aimed at tackling 'the problem' laid at the doors of traditional religions, other than by promoting of 'gnosticism' as th...

You application of 'societal function' to 'self' tends to be circular from the pov of 'self' as a social acquisition, constructed by a value laden com...

I mean that the mythology employed by gnostics uses logos as a key concept in a mystical sense generally denoting 'ultimate divine order' or 'absolute...

...but all tinged with myth !

"Jesus" is a red herring. Jews and moslems don't do Jesus! I suggest gnostics want their cake (belief in a supremo aka 'God') and eat it (without any ...

A major societal function of religion is rationalize and regulate the sexual behavior we inherit as primates. This accounts for the 'sanctification' o...

...'logos' being your particular idiosyncratic myth.

On the basis that language is a defining characteristic of humans, it can be argued that all words, including 'God', 'reality' and 'knowlege' are by d...

Twaddle ! That's a bit of supercilious pomposity from someone who hasn't bothered to do much reading. In particular, what you call 'reasoning' takes n...

:grin: Mincing the fresh meat ?... but fails to lift the fetid word salad !

Googling 'Heidegger, and Panpsychism' suggests the jury is out on that.

Yes, the epistemological issue is one of priority. i.e Does 'philosophy' guide what we mean by 'scientific method' , or is 'scientific method' a funct...

Hmm... The dichotomy suggested above between 'science' and 'philosophy' appears to be contradicted by developments in neuroscience, in which 'neurophi...

Thanks for that Schopenhauer reterence. You ask for an origin of 'bodily sensations', but from the pov that all perception is an 'interaction event' b...

The pov scenario tends to imply a dichotomy between 'observer' and 'observed' as self contained entities. I suggest that the 'interaction event' invol...

I think 'what remains over time' is observer memory of the interaction event between 'observer' and 'observed'. What we call 'properties' are observer...

:grin: 'Existence is what is'...is a phrase that would have the 'E-Prime movement' rolling in the aisles since their philosophical mission statement w...

:smile: These disputes about the viability of description of 'God' are of course grist to the mill for those who base their atheism on the potential s...

You correct about your 'community of discourse', and that is why the OP 'atheism' issue is a straw man since atheists by definition are not members of...

Alas no! Atheists like me DO NOT 'love to talk 'God' which they consider to be a useless concept for them. Those atheists with a modicum of intelligen...

I doubt whether life has 'meaning'. As Shakespeare put it... IMO, The 'price' humans pay for their superior cognitive abilities (which allows them to ...

I don't do barber shop banter, or court room adversarial charades. I do reference based philosophical exchange of ideas. As for 'hot air' , I would su...

To Bartricks Judging by your current 'pseudo-logical' activity on other threads, I'll take your absence of answer here as a 'no'. Where you got the id...

I suggest there is some circular thinking going on here. For example, the assertion that.. ... could amount to mere 'anthropmorphism', or the confusio...

:So you've read Rovelli ?

Sorry, but I find it difficult talking to someone who doesn't understand the circularities of their own 'naive realist' assumptions. So I leave you wi...

No. Your point is that there is a 'final turtle' you call 'a simple thing'. Physicists would tend to disagree.

:smile: Tara indeed !...and give my regards to the old lady who claimed 'it's turtles all the way down' !

Its a vacuous qustion because 'simplicity' and 'complexity' are defined relative to human needs. The more sophisicated issue is whether what we call '...