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Malicious authoritarian garbarge turned up to eleven.

Yeah, it may have to be in the New Year if possible as I'm run off my feet a little with holiday commitments (the best kind).

No, only that it can be - if that's it role in a particular language game. Again, the Wittgensteinian response, I think, would be: they can have sampl...

True, but §40-45 is also largely about names, and I was not being specific when I said it was about 'words'. As for the question - sure - Nothing, N.N...

I pretty much agree on all these points - it is only within the context of a game that one can speak of correct and incorrect actions, and that those ...

Probably one of the most intellectually titillating prefaces to a book I've read in a while: "Philosophers, past and present alike, have invariably be...

I know you're going beyond the text somewhat, but there are some ambiguities with this reading, I think. First, I'm not clear on what it means to say ...

§55 §55 deepens, ever so slightly, the distinction made in §53 between a sample being a 'tool in the use of language' - one being used immediately in ...

This thread has until page 2 to get substantial or it's going.

Merry Christmas all!

§54 §54 serves to illustrate the point arrived at at the end of §53: that rules can themselves have different roles in a (language) game. Hence the re...

Reading for 2018! (Bold indicates favourites) Philosophy of Math Albert Lautman - Mathematics, Ideas, and the Physical Real Fernando Zalamea - Peirce'...

:up: - corrected. Yeah, that's fair. A big part of what I'm trying to do here is establish the 'flow' of the PI, to show the threads that weave from o...

Ugh, another fragile snowflake complaining about complaining.

§53 As I said in my comments on §51 (way back now!), the next few sections basically iterate through a variety of ways in which which roles are establ...

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Exactly what do you think the root word of typ-ical is?

Ugh, Dawkins set the public understanding of biology back by at least a decade or two, and as a result we get threads like these.

The trick is this: in its role as the standard meter, one can 'never' say that the Standard Metre is or is not 1m long. But the lump of metal that is ...

This seems like a good moral to draw!

Very cool. So much interesting stuff happens at this intersection. Part of me wants to say that it's the source of all paradox. But I'll stop this tra...

In which case movement - difference - would still be primary, no?

Just to clear my thoughts: is right to say angles are inherently proportional? Do they (always) express a ratio? Having trouble thinking this through.

Speaking for a moment outside of just the PI, this 'forgetting' of the origin has always seemed to me to be bound up with some of the most interesting...

These people live and die their public lives by the attention lavished upon them by the public. Deprive it of them, and so deprive that life.

Yeah, to all things that have the same kind of role that both names and the Paris meter occupy in their respective games.

I think we agree. This is part of what I meant when I said that Witty's pronouncement on the Paris meter is not a general-purpose statement, but one t...

I actually want to come back to §50 for a bit and 'intervene' in the debate that was going on between @"Luke" and @"Banno" a little earlier. My post o...

§51-52 Were I to divide the PI into chapters, §51 would mark the beginning of a new one (which goes on till about §66). What distinguishes this sectio...

The only thing abstract here is the artificial attempt to lump causes into fake boxes labelled 'nature' and 'nurture'. Nothing I said implied that we ...

Maybe they are. But gene expression is far more complex than you make it out to be - in fact, it's not at all the case that simply saying something is...

This is not an argument. This is barely an anecdote. Nothing doing.

Sure, there are reasons to find 'causes' for things and attempt to intervene; one wonders what good it does to place those causes into little pre-mark...

Hmm, but it's all linguistic. And all practical. Language is always-already in contact with the world: it is worldy qua activity - qua practice.

One of my favourite images from Evelyn Fox Keller's The Mirage of a Space Between Nature and Nurture: /uploads/resized/files/ru/bc8p0hagyr6px5f7.gif

I didn't say they play an equal role. I said the whole debate is largely meaningless.

Yep. Anyone who thinks there is an agonistic relation between nature and nurture is uninformed about both.

Side note: the meter rule discussion has some really interesting parallels with the discussion that opens On Certainty, where Witty similarly trashes ...

§50 (Part 2) Witty's reflections on the meter rule in Paris have been the cause for alot of confusion, but I think alot can be cleared up by simply pl...

I wasn't satisfied with it. Tweaking it a bit before reposting :)

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Speak for yourself.

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Or posts even! In this thread! About the book! :gasp:

Just to be clear - the PI for me is... well put it this way, it's one of two books I've ever annotated from start to finish, so yeah, I kinda know tha...

We'll get there in good time, my little beavers.

§50 (Part 1) §50 continues its engagements with the Theaetetus passage, this time, turning its attention to the question of existence (or ‘being’). Be...

Hi, your reply got caught by the spam filter, probably because you didn't add any paragraph breaks, so it's all just one wall of text - which is somet...

Of course it's idiosyncratic. This is philosophy. The OED is for children who are too inexperienced to pay attention to context.

Ah, but did Witty have daddy issues? Can't read the PI without knowing that either.