Whether or not the historical Socrates talked about Forms is irrelevant. I am talking about the Socrates of the dialogues. It is never "Plato said thi...
This is part of his knowledge of his ignorance. As long as we cannot say what justice itself is we can only have opinions about whether something just...
They do not "evoke the concept 'Forms'. They are terms we translate as Forms. You have a concept of Forms based on the myth of transcendence from the ...
You just quoted the same passage I did using a different translation! Do you think by repeating the same thing you can avoid having to deal with the p...
The only thing that is irrational is your repetition of what I have said more than once as if it is in dispute. I even quoted myself saying as much so...
No he doesn't. He doesn't talk about Forms at all. He talks about one Form and calls it a pattern. He says nothing about instrumental causality, a con...
No one disputes that the Forms are often talked about in the dialogues. We went through this already. What is at issue is what they are. Of course pat...
Well, that settles the matter. You go from demanding proof of everything I say to what you believe to be true. The divisions of the tripart soul do no...
This. In lieu of his own interpretation one of his many cut and paste. This one from Lloyd Gerson: The key is the theory that the Forms are instrument...
Kass' work is based on that of Leo Strauss. Unfortunately Strauss' commentary is hard to find. If this stuff interests you another student of Strauss,...
The average person does not say he is an expert on divine matters. Euthyphro would deny that he is superstitious. It is his assumption that he knows w...
They do not discuss it from one end of the dialogue to the other. Socrates quickly dispatches it. The dialogue comes to an end when Socrates once agai...
From many of your posts it is evident that you don't or until some point did not. Do I need to explain to you what engendered means? This topic and th...
I held off answering him. You provided a better answer than I would have. I think Euthyphro did have an agenda. He could have done what his father did...
Wittgenstein said: The problem is, many who are drawn to philosophy do not feel at home in the confusion of not knowing. They look to philosophy to fi...
The Euthyphro dilemma as it is referred to today is not the problem that Socrates posed to Euthyphro. Socrates question: "Is the pious loved by the go...
First, do not blame your failure to understand the dialogue on anything or anyone else. Second, although the thread was engendered by Banno's request,...
You cannot see past your defensiveness. I did not say that religion-based virtue in general is bad. I have said repeatedly that it is about Euthyphro,...
I think you have enough emotional intelligence to know what is really going on here. I am going to leave it at that. If you want to discuss the dialog...
First of all, the dialogue is not about "the dilemma". Second, it is my opinion that a proper interpretation of the dialogue looks carefully at the de...
I appreciate you and others, and there have been several others, for stepping in. They have chosen to make Plato's Euthyphro and Phaedo about me. I di...
It is much easier to scoff than to actually do some research and reading. Doing so shows that this is a subject that has received a significant amount...
Right. This should be too obvious to mention, but unfortunately it is not. The dialogues are all inventions. Parmenides was a real person but his meet...
From Eco's Interpretation and Overinterpretation. Here is a partial list of the main features of what he calls a Hermetic approach to texts: If I unde...
Yes, but this leads to the question of why this detail, why this place. In this case I think Plato leads to reader to ask further questions about Euth...
Sometimes I will side with whoever is more persuasive. Other times I leave it open, seeing no way to reach a satisfactory conclusion one way or the ot...
I don't think it has anything to do specifically with Naxos other than it provides dates to indicate there was a five year gap between the time it hap...
To regard the Hebrew Bible as "the Old Testament" is to prejudge it. Significantly, you do not even mention Judaism. What is often overlooked is the e...
Plato was known for seemingly offhand comments regarding dates that situate the time of a dialogue and other events related to it. There is quite a bi...
A proper interpretation is sufficiently detailed. A proper interpretation attends to the text, to what is said and done. Not isolated statements and r...
It does not matter if he is a real person. We are analyzing the dialogue, or at least some of us are. He is the title character of the dialogue. Socra...
That's nice. Except I don't have a materialist interpretation. If you read my thread on Socrates together with the passages I cite you would see that....
Another point worth mentioning. Euthyphro says this happened when they were farming in Naxos. (4c) Naxos was lost in the Peloponnesian War with Sparta...
Thank you. It is nice to have some confirmation from someone familiar with the scholarship. As you have probably seen, some have accused me of making ...
I'm not sure anymore whether your misrepresentations are intentional or if there is something else going on that prevents you from understanding. Eith...
https://www.ancientworldmagazine.com/articles/death-penalty-classical-athens/ As to the alleged crime being murder: 4a Most of your challenges to what...
I don't understand any of this or his work sufficiently well enough to say one way or the other, and if I did say it was one way or another it would p...
The penalty for murder was death. Of course we have no evidence of the outcome of a trial that had not yet happened and might never have happened. I m...
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