Yes but the WAY it does so seems random. Sure it incorporates your beliefs and attitudes etc but whenever a decision is close and you can’t tell exact...
Replace the word “impulse” with “influence” if it matters so much to you. As far as I’m concerned they’re just different degrees of the same thing. I ...
The question should have been “name a city” instead my bad. That way you’d actually have to “collapse the probability wave” before the questions start...
Yes but this doesn't amount to free will. Because I don’t know the WAY in which that choice took place. Do the little thought experiment I said in my ...
Yes. In the sense that there were other options Depends on what you mean by choice. If you just mean “did you pick this option” then obviously yes. Bu...
I know this. But classical mechanics is completely deterministic. So your will is either completely deterministic or completely random. I don’t think ...
that’s what I’m saying. His “free will” doesn’t give its possessor any actual agency and is closer to “random will”. I would disagree with P1 and say ...
When did I ever say it’s easy to literally change someone’s religious beliefs by talking to them as some random stranger on the internet. Most discuss...
Do you though? Do you really think posting on this forum is going to do anything to dent the mainstream religions? You should start a petition or a ma...
so you’re saying free will IS just a manifestation of random choice. So if you have a 20% chance of killing someone you’re really annoyed with and an ...
Me neither. But I have a bad habit of saying “determinism” in place of “no free will” I think there was a huge amount of handwaving in the dash in fre...
So will causes physical phenomena but is not caused by it? You seem to be describing something akin to magic here. Is not caused or explained by the l...
Because morality is just that. What everyone believes. I don’t believe in an objective morality Where did it seem to you like I did. All I said was: b...
But you haven’t answered whether or not they CAUSE physical phenomena. Looking at your answer it seems the answer is “no”, but then it becomes pretty ...
Wot. Are you saying people wouldn’t want to change who they are? I’m not chastising you or anything, it’s just that all the people I know have this on...
I never said I don’t believe others are conscious I said you can’t know they are. In which case it still makes sense. Though I agree antinatalism woul...
I argue it is evil relative to the moral principles almost everyone on this subreddit employs. I believe antinatalism is the logical conclusion to the...
it just seems like a difference in intensity then. My point is though, if someone plays the guitar all day vs plays video games all day one is called ...
What reason do you have to believe anyone other than you is conscious Also, defining will as a mental phenomena seems weird to me. Because it is not c...
I thought that’s what you said here What did you mean then I never said equal, I said same “class” of argument. By that I mean you appeal to some unpr...
I know this is a common one but: Does a robot that determines what it will do based on random nuclear decay have free will? (Nuclear decay doesn’t see...
Well then you’d be doing something in the same “class” of argument as appealing to god if that’s not what you’re actually doing. But other than that I...
Yea. Makes it harder for anyone to give the typical “argument” that antinatalism “only looks at pleasure and pain” or assumes or pain is to be avoided...
Are you seriously implying that someone can be evil for not having children? I’d give you a speeding ticket on that one. What does “oriented in nature...
antinatalism always loses. Because all it takes is 2 people of opposite genders to disagree (or not care) about the logic. Still, one can abide by the...
But they do increase the intensity of their behavior. That same addict starts betting more and more money the more addicted he is and the whole thing ...
Why would it being evil make it not exist Why does it cooperating with nature make it not evil. Murder theft and rape are pretty natural Antinatalism ...
But you clearly set a bar when you say that in most cases where money isn't a problem and where the children will likely live happy lives etc, that it...
I know right. In EVERY OTHER CASE inaction is taken to be default. It’s just that people have too strong a mental block when it comes to antinatalism ...
Two things here. 1- you did not make the choice to be born by definition. And you said it yourself, only one person gets to make that decisions and it...
This is what I have a problem with, that the bar is set at “miserable life”. “It’s ok Timmy at least you’re not suffering as much as those Chinese swe...
That’s not what I’m doing. I never said life isn’t worth the suffering. I think it is. That doesn’t permit me to force someone else into it though. Se...
"Asshole attitude". Really dude? Because you have been the absolute pinnacle of gentlemanly, chivalrous conduct? "Asshole attitude" coming from you me...
No we usually jail him. Again, I never said you have to tolerate foolishness even if the foolish see us as being fools for that. You just can't stop t...
I would say that's what I employ. However not as you formulated it here: I don't think this is good enough still. Would you agree to someone betting a...
Fine fine. At least now I know for sure talking with you is a waste of time. Because no matter how good a principle based argument is you will go back...
I think everyone interpreted it that way. Most of the time you were, in fact, doing principle based ethics because you were arguing with the principle...
I don't want to argue with you but the thing is the WAY you argue is what's so weird. You argue the principles themselves and then when it no longer w...
We're absolutely getting nowhere. Let me just ask you this: Why are you still debating moral principles when you say you don't have any. You said in a...
Yes. I think this is one of our most important motivators in doing anything. It's why it's so hard to stick to the same habit for very long, the rewar...
You can consider certain things laughable or ridiculous all you want but you can't do them on someone who expresses a clear desire not to have them do...
yea, typo I can, others may disagree with me. Yup I agree. I'm saying there is no stopping the fool by calling him a fool. He doesn't think he is, he ...
Because you are acting on said someone so not deferring to their opinion as to whether or not they consent to your action would be directly going agai...
Hey, you are not giving me money right now even though I may believe I deserve money on you. I would really appreciate it if you stopped foisting your...
The problem was that: In other words "who decides what a benefit is?" and my answer is "The person on which the action in question is being considered...
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