No. But where that infant begins and where a serious skeptic ends is completely subjective. And even if I personally am not prepared others might be a...
Agreed. Which is why you shouldn’t offend people unless you have good reason to believe it will help them later and good reason to believe they will a...
Close but it’s closer to negative utilitarianism, I was just giving it as an example though. I know there are problems with it I don’t think it’s mean...
I meant anything non trivial. These statements are true by definition. This would be like saying "Lying is wrong therefore lying to your friend is wro...
Because we have mirror neurons that are designed to do this. Pretty accurate actually. I'm not an expert but from what I've read people's reactions to...
It's not selfless to fix a problem you created. You created the problem of suffering for the child. Fixing it is the least you can do. If I accidental...
If "Lying is wrong" is the only moral assumption I'm making then it would bo wrong to lie to a murderer. To make it ok in that scenario you'd need som...
Yes I think it's something akin to Maslow's hierarchy or needs, also the internet. Looking at a typical middle ages peasant, he didn't have time to wo...
With certain assumptions/rules yes. So if something like "Lying is wrong" is a starting assumtion then "Lying to your frined is wrong" is true. Is "Ly...
Would anyone who is a Natalist here say the following action is ethical: I really like a certain video game but I have no one to play it with. Therefo...
In that case I could say you’re making them get past said thing so there is a net benefit across time even if it hurts them right now. This doesn’t co...
Yes but they decided to go to this site in the first place. Whereas the child never decided to be born. I have consent from then in spreading my idea ...
It's not my fault if someone decides to read my post. That's their choice. They are aware there is a chance each post may make them depressed yet they...
That should be the goal yes. For a living person this is impossible so in that case he/she should do whatever causes the least suffering/harm. Please ...
I see absolutely no resemblance between your chosen policy toward a certain class of beings (a moral principle) and a fact such as which notes are in ...
Sorry this looks messy but I’m on iPad right now. Here you said “because it would create an abnormal situation for that child that would create a lot ...
You never said you don’t employ your “policy” as a principle. So are you saying you’re fine with changing your policy towards potential people on a wh...
Ok guess we’re doing this again Let me change that a bit to “genetically modify sperm and eggs such that a child will have 8 broken limbs on birth ok ...
That’s not what I’m asking you to explain. I’m asking you to explain how having a “policy” towards certain actions against certain classes of beings d...
I said risks putting someone in an unusual situation didn’t I? And such unusual situations include: severe depression, abuse, accidents, etc. These ar...
You can’t explain something “every time” if you have never explained it before. Please enlighten my stupid mind with the difference between “having a ...
That’s not what I said is it. I said it risks putting someone in an unfortunate situation. In the way that genetic engineering is wrong to you because...
“It is immoral to do certain action X to class of being Y when it is abnormal” is principle based ethics. It is amusing to me that you can’t understan...
You could do that by not replying but you're still replying. That tells me this isn't actually your goal and instead, you just do not believe in any p...
But you're employing a principle based approach when you say "My policy on X is Y". Do you mean to say that your policy towards beings incapable of gi...
And yet you started your comment with "My policy on". That's a moral principle if you ask me if a personal one. If you'd said "My temporary policy on"...
Yes. But you expressed a moral principle and by that moral principle you shouldn't be allowed to have children as I've shown. You know we have a very ...
It might make sense to your child just like it makes sense to many others. That's the point. It doesn't matter what YOU think of life you have no righ...
I don't think you can. Epicurus maybe correct about the nature of death if we could confirm death is the end to conscious experience but we cannot. Un...
I have been trying to answer that for a while by binge reading psychology books but to almost no avail. If you want the neurological answer to this qu...
"But the majority of forced hunger games participants like it". Not only are both of these quotes straight up wrong, they are blind to what people tru...
Yes but none of those risks can be reduced significantly by me not being there. And many of them risk providing more good through being useful than ha...
This wasn't directed at me but let me make one thing clear. Antinatalism isn't about eliminating people. It's about not bringing in more people. Antin...
He wasn't complaining and he wasn't worrying about himself nor did he say he liked it. He was saying you lack worrying for the consequences of your ac...
Not "not so bad" but rather, "we know the child will find his own life worthwhile, fulfilling and just overall great most of the time". I don't think ...
I don't think so. If for whatever reason you have good reason to believe life will not get better and you hate it right now, then it's perfectly ratio...
What I meant by "whatever society dictates" is "contingent statistical norms". That's all I'm saying. The point is, do you see any modification done t...
Don't worry then. Antinatalism will sadly never win because it is at a distinct reproductive disadvantage. Antinatalists aren't born or taught, they c...
Yea "contingent statistical norms" is what I mean when I say "what society dictates". I can gather from this that you can't help but feel that any mod...
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