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Even more odd is I was actually quite surprised about the White House responses from this. It was basically an insult to those New Jerseyans, and they...

For some reason @"BC" seems like a good commentator for this one.

I bolded and bolded/underlined the category errors. On one end you have a physical process, on the other hand another thing going on, more associated ...

That is an interesting answer, but I doubt that would consciously be the reason people procreate. The worst offenses are continuation of bloodline, to...

Negative is as it implies: If you are at a more positive state (happy, neutral), and you experience something that brings you to a less positive state...

Pollyainism is a thing.

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Even this betrays a sort of biased proto-experiential view of things. As if the event itself is the knower. Not this either.

I'm not sure how emergence is understood. As I said in a previous post, at what scale does the universe take without a perspective? What are events wi...

If I was to connect this to some modern theories, I guess one can relate back to informational theories. The divide, crudely, is between "inside" (sub...

You have to admire Schopenhauer's writing here. Clear, but insightful. This eye opening passage is one I have pondered a lot before, as it is one of t...

Really good post, but one point I’d add is he did have Platonic forms in there too as “objectified Will”. From how I have interpreted it, the subject ...

Hence the need for antinatalism as an ethic. I didn't say this. That's something you asserted here for some reason, kind of an aside maybe. When I sai...

Suffering (with a capital "S") is simply the label I give all this negative understanding (self-awareness). Bed bugs, diseases, emotional trauma, and ...

Communities of catharsis, mutual understanding of our situation without flinching. If there is no escape to X metaphysical better state, then we can o...

He isn't really. You are improving upon it though, to make it a better one. One actually that I also agree with to an extent. Not basically, it is tha...

This to me is a load of bullshit. So yeah I don't follow the reasoning. If you asked the suicidal person if they killed themselves because they heard ...

WTF are you talking about? You are strolling into troll territory. You accuse my argument of emotional sentimentality. This is just a provoking sentim...

I could ask a series of personal questions to get to a point, but you can take these instead of "you" as more of "why would one", to depersonalize it:...

This is the classic theist trope about why atheists wouldn't just wantonly kill and murder and do bad things because of not believing in a god. It ass...

Philosophy of being versus philosophy of objects/stuff seems to be about as good a distillation as you are going to get. Other posters have intimated ...

I'm sure this debate has been played out between Mahayana and Theravada schools, but wouldn't one just say that this is trying to reconcile one's desi...

I can actually get on board with this, IF it was more the existential kind. I have proposed Communities of Catharsis to cope with the existential dile...

I mean, the rebuttal would just be that you either have an accurate appraisal or not. It would not be philosophy then, but merely coping. If I'm readi...

And so, I suppose something like Nirvana/Moksha, no? So this is why I also brought in notions earlier of romantic love, and the family-unit that follo...

Oh come now, this seems ideological bias. First off, I don't care what label people use, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck.. And Zapffe is b...

@"Wayfarer" @"Tom Storm" Also, as I said elsewhere, and will piss off a lot of people because it hits closest to home in their daily lives:

:up: To focus on the most important points above: Our capacity for self-awareness of existence, has enormous capacity to open up the Suffering entaile...

This is about as close to a "historical" debate on Jesus as you're going to get from the writings of the New Testament, as they "loosely" reflect the ...

It isn’t crazy, but it isn’t unreasonable to believe (and with good reason) that ancient writers embellished history to make a point or a point of vie...

I put in the input but yes. It turned it into a list based on that. Saved me time but I can recreate it if you want using my own idioms.

You should be looped in the above: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/947684

Most people seem pretty content with this though. Those who are happy for a night of physical pleasure can get someone/become impregnated. Those, who ...

So self-awareness of existence, is beyond simply "self-awareness". Other animals display forms of "self-knowing" including apes, elephants, dolphins/w...

First off, historians don't take everything in religious texts at face value :roll:. Secondly, not eating pork and following (or even knowing about!) ...

That's not an accurate statement of the matter. It's extremely complex, because it's hard to say if even the Jewish beliefs of the Torah were complete...

Schopenhauer took the step of describing his ideas through metaphor and analogy, pushing language to approach what lies beyond direct understanding. W...

‘Can’t say anything’ is tricky here, as it’s taken to mean both a normative restriction and a factual one. Schopenhauer, for instance, did say somethi...

But you have already turned this on its head. Rather, I would have phrased it, "Wittgenstein should have (rightly) attributed the point to Kant himsel...

I'm not sure that's a response. Since Kant didn't have much to say about it either other than as a theory of something that is probably there, but can...

I thought this was an excellent insight here. Humans have to value something, hold it as a reason for pursuing before the pursuit. Before one ounce of...

Gonna conjure Apo? It’s his wheelhouse, though if I remember he wasn’t particularly impressed of this information theory- could be mistaken.

Oldie, but goodie.

Again thanks for displaying an example of the topic. Chatgpt has a good take. Describes you to a T: But it also understands what you do right below th...

I think that post is a nice summary of pessimism, as it plays out for the atheistic antinatalist and the theist (some forms at least). Just keep in mi...

I guess we do agree on that point, as long as we have the same understanding of "grace unwilled" which I think you do now. Yes Well, Schopenhauer did ...

First, I'd like to thank you for being Exhibit A for answering the OP question: Withdrawal is the answer to most axiological problems concerning human...

I have several things I have contention with in your interpretation 1) Schopenhauer was absolutely an atheist, even if his metaphysics was a speculati...

As with most of my threads that come to a few pages, I recommend reading from the beginning to see how the conversation has unfolded, which might info...