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That being said, the US government created more distrust for its own citizens when they had NSC spokesman Kirby and Homeland Security secretary Mayork...

I think the UFO/alien folks are looking for meaning beyond the mundane. It also gives a sort of hope- that something bigger than humans is out there a...

Yeah for sure, existential dread and mundanity doesn't go away :wink:. Like any new revelation, it would be at first shocking, and then we would just ...

I'm more on the skeptic side until provided any sufficient evidence from reliable sources. When I propose these fringe theories, I am doing it for the...

I don't know but that might be what they might say. A "believer" might say that the government does not want a panic and perhaps are worried about the...

The disclosure people would say that it is a slow drip so they get ahead of it before the big reveal :D.

It would certainly be a frenzy. I think there would be more than that. There would be an economic crisis, the stock market might crash, people would s...

Yep, this seems to be how this works. As I stated above: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/954602 Right? I can only speculate, but som...

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But you see, this is how the "disclosure" conspiracy works. For reasons like the ones you list, these conspiracy theorists claim that unlike previous ...

Haha, it's always some shadowy smoke filled backroom somewhere with anonymous men in suits under hazy light. I guess in this case "they" is supposed t...

Same as other thread in Lounge. It looks like a very similar conversation from the previous round. I guess I didn't pay much attention to the first on...

Cool thanks for sharing the old thread. I guess I just shrugged off that as background news previously and was more taken aback by it this second roun...

And what about this: @"BC"

Why only looking at night? Clearly that isn't much of a cover :lol:. Well, that NORAD Santa Claus tracker seems to get more attention than this New Je...

According to some in the UFO community, the idea of "disclosure" is big. That is the idea that the government might slowly disclose that we know of UF...

I heard this story too but I thought it was debunked.

I forgot to include this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDyZvv3D3ws

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@"Relativist" @"ssu" @"Tom Storm" @"BC" @"Hanover" For reference, here are the two hearings where people testified to Congress under oath about these ...

I agree. If you look at that video in my last post you can see that it's the pet project of some people that seems to have been given more air time. B...

@"Relativist" @"ssu" @"Tom Storm" @"BC" @"Hanover" I thought this video useful. Mind you, this came out before the second Congressional hearing but af...

Then why all the talk of UAPs if we know they are actually UAS? I'd like to loop you into the other discussion because that one is a broader one as if...

I like your analogy here. I for one, take Schopenhauer seriously, but at the same time metaphorically. That is to say, I don't necessarily buy into th...

But that’s not what was said from people like Elizondo. He talked directly of NHI. And there were several questions about this. I’m not saying it’s tr...

But why would they do that? Distraction? Obfuscation? Disinformation? What’s the point?

Yes, and that distinction is important. I am looking at the level of the significance of why supposedly legitimate institutions are "looking" for flyi...

But if someone is investigating big foot, and someone is investigating nuclear weapons, one is obviously verifiable as a high probability, and one not...

Agreed. What should one make of Congress entertaining/hosting it? A bunch of crazy conspiracists or because there is something more? This is the "cont...

This is assuming any of it is real and not just disinformation or misunderstanding.

Trump can barely keep his mouth closed about anything. If he knew, that you don't think he would be breadcrumbing that all day and night?? Then again,...

Yes, so you are attributing it to psychological phenomena, something like mass hysteria or public psychosis. I think media can generate a great deal o...

Interesting enough, I think that can be considered "epistemological" :D. Certainly, someone like Foucault may argue that, for example. This last line ...

Existence entails suffering.

Because I antinatalism does NOT entail suicide. You can perhaps force an argument that way, but it wouldn't be mine. I don't see there being an equiva...

They don't want to be disturbed, you see, so it's less about us, more about not blowing up their home and/or terrarium :joke:

Yeah, but to be fair, congressional hearings about UFOs would seem to create the atmosphere of looking for strange stuff in the sky. I see you have a ...

Here's a more sobering take: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZkxnUbsJXE But that's what the big government wants you to think :joke:

Good question. Everything I see is video from a person on the ground's perspective, so just lights. Some of them seem like propellor ones and others s...

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@"Wayfarer" @"Tom Storm" anything to share on it?

@"Leontiskos" surely you have a theory.

Of course, the more "tin foil hat" theory is that these are NHI (non-human intelligence). The idea is that they’re being produced in an ocean base whe...

I originally had a video up but there was a better one that captured more. On that one, I noticed that the reporter first asked if it was "American dr...

Yep, as I replied to Hanover here: I also explained above that I think it's government contractors or another government agency than the military. Not...

:lol: Yes, my theory is government contractors. Notice they don't seem to have people ask if they are NON-military government assets or from contracto...

@"Hanover" @"tim wood" Any ideas, thoughts, observations, theories?

What do you think of the federal government response as opposed to local officials? Government gaslighting or local hysteria? Again, this increase in ...

Military or other government agency contractors? My fascination is more the Pentagon and National Security Council’s response and the (possible) gasli...

No definitely not this ha. They wouldn’t skirt FAA regulations for weeks and have technology that goes dark when detected.