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One of the problems I see is a parent has a child either for a particular set of personal reasons, or due to circumstances of sex. None of these reaso...

1. Both of them are not necessary for individual survival. 2. I think you miss the point of AN. The point is that birth itself is the platform for whi...

Except Harry Potter can never be harmed. However, a potential person can be harmed in real life, if it is born. The birth is intricately related to th...

That's fine.. The AN in this case would say that no harm, no foul. In other words, it is only good that a person did not exist to experience the harm....

The child need not exist, only the possibility that a child would exist. In this case, the harm and the person the harm is happening to comes together...

But that is where possibility does factor into this. The very thing that is in question is whether to create a new person, where there was not that un...

I don’t think this argument holds up. We understand the idea that things are possible all the time. The more likely the possibility, the more real it ...

The "real" may be more harmful than not to humans. Think of Disneyland. It is a make believe amusement park full of fake characters and rides. The "go...

You’re stretching to make materialism the messiness it rightly is, which I’ll give you. Perhaps I was too harsh on my assessment of abstraction. But i...

One of the big issues with any metaphysical ism, material or otherwise is how it handles emergence.

If you're OP wasn't even about information and simply that matter shapes things.. then it wasn't worth commenting on anyways. My original point was th...

You are good at the rhetorical devices. This is just handwaving and parsing of terms so you don't have to deal with the central issue. No, you didn't ...

C'mon. Because I said "matter is matter is matter"? You realize that was to point to the idea that to assert emergence and information, is to already ...

Typical response fromsomeone who doesn't have a good answer. If you had something interesting to say you would not need to resort to these tools of rh...

True it is not fully elaborated, and I can only speculate for his elaboration, but I think the premise is a strong starting point. Here we are, consta...

Actually no, it would be a valid critique of the inability of materialist conceptions to get to the heart of materialism.

I can't speak for SophistiCat, but I don't think he was necessarily equating abstraction with idealism per se. Rather, he was pointing to the fact tha...

I read @"SophistiCat" to be saying, even your seemingly matieralistic-oriented notions are idealist in a way- just a more sophisticated version. As he...

If you are fulfilled with romantic notions of home and poems, great. Still has to be maintained, paid for, worked, and the person dwelling there enter...

This I agree with.

I don't see much of an argument. What I am trying to say is that having a home doesn't magically make suffering go away and is not usually an end in i...

There's a lot of stuff to maintain that magic. I am guessing you don't rent or own your own place?

Maintaining a homeostasis is just what we tend to do. It isn't just home though. It is the cost of keeping the home, the time spent maintaining the ho...

You are always at odds with something. First, you are born in the first place. You must contend with the basic animal imperative- survive or die. This...

Seems to be a more elaborate version of my comment above ;). Nice post.

I can agree with that. Agreed. Though a lot of this is how you characterize it. Miserable might be the wrong word, and not capturing what is really go...

I think it can be personality driven. But I don't see inherently how acceptance is a better mode.

Matter behaves. This fuzzy language leads to all kinds of confusion, including the idea of emergence, and ideas of mind.

If we take the idea of "What should we humans be aiming for in life"? That would be a rather vague question, but it can be broken down and made more c...

The only thing I saw that was sort of an answer is negotiating giveband take. Essentially it’s just stay neutral. The individual suffers for the cause...

Had to look that Brit term up. How is that even answering. Other than your impulse to insult you just gave another scenario. It concerns the scenario ...

Diddums what? I presented a scenario and a question and you just presented a different scenario.

But you did not answer the question, just presented a different scenario.

Being that peacock's can't make moral decisions as far as I know. I guess I mean longevity to individuals and the species. Not sure what that means. I...

So the Schopenhuaer metaphysical system brings up the point of what it is to be. According to his theory, to be is to will (to want, to desire). This ...

Oh screw it. I’ll delete this post.

It’s simply about entertaining the mind. The mind concentrating on purely existing with no distractios can’t maintain its state for long. The mind lat...

The world is not what you make it.,both in terms of basic drives and in social-survival realities. To accept is to keep living. To deny is to suicide....

It still stands that this definition is a characterization of what is the case. We will because we cannot help it. It is in our nature as restless ani...

You still avoided the question, though I do appreciate the humor. However, the question of why new people need to exist in the first place to do proje...

What is the need for more new humans to have more projects? Your premise is presumably that humans are inherently project-based. We like to achieve mi...

Or conversely.. we are suffering but accept it as a rite of passage of the human experience?

"Us" "We"? Royal we? :razz:. So his definition was essentially laid out in the quote I used above when I provided the three Schop internet sources. Th...

But I too disagree with the notion that dissatisfaction is somehow a property of existence. However, as human animals, it is in our nature to be dissa...

If we are basing satisfaction on Schop's definition- satisfaction stands in for a temporary reprieve from the usual game of goal-getting and dissatisf...

I actually agree. What is emergent? I'm not sure its an appropriate adjective, because I don't really understand what/how this emerging process is, to...

Representations are made by minds. What is the thing that is an emergent mind? What is the emerging itself?

What is the mind instantiated in? Does calling it symbolic modeling somehow solve this self-arising of mind?

But I am taking a step back to its ontology. WHAT is "doing some symbolic modeling" without being self-referential? What is this "symbolic modelling" ...

Not really. You downplay greatly, the complexity of the human mind, which Schopenhauer explicated so well. Eat and drink? How do we obtain such things...