All of those are considerations too and I have discussed those at length in other discussions. I specifically want to talk about the injustice of havi...
Whence/What the Apeiron? You answered Vagueness vagueing is pretty vague if that's your answer, but it's just as oddly metaphysical as any other metap...
Agreed, so no I'm not. That's the discussion I'm trying to have, but I am trying to connect it with the idea that: Another person has made a decision ...
I don't know, I don't know "many" nihilists. I know more of real life "anarchists" perhaps or "punks" but except in The Big Lebowski have never seen a...
And then, what is the nature of the Apeiron? Is this not a "ground"? It just pushes the can back from ground in the mind to ground in the beginning of...
Can it then be that your "nihilist" friends are confused as to what "nihilism" is? People mislabel themselves all the time. I don't think it's a matte...
The conditions of having choice (as any other condition, PERIOD), is from being born, so not sure about that underlined emphasis there. However, I get...
But your birth could never have been a choice you made. Is it just that that choice is made for you. There was no choice to opt out, and here is somet...
Schopenhauer thought the 12 categories were unnecessary and arbitrary I believe. In Schopenhauer's system, time, space, and causality in the general a...
Can you explain this? Presumably we know where babies come from and can prevent it. I'm not trying to be sarcastic or anything, but just countering th...
Well, I don't know if it's just the breeding part. By existing at all as humans, we are bound to disappoint, transgress ethically other people, etc. I...
Perhaps, I think it is just a lot of confusion that people have around the term "nihilism".. It is more of a negation form than it is about content. I...
Yes, the throwness of existence.. discussed much in Existentialism: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thrownness "Why be thrown into anything at all?" is ...
Just as a note, I think Schopenhauer did a great job dismantling Kant's 12 categories. He was inspired by the transcendental idealism but did not buy ...
Exactly. So I think one of the core ideas of Existentialism is the idea of "authenticity". By this we mean that we are a species that has justificatio...
Exactly.. Didn't Julio Cabrera bring this idea up? By being born, we not only suffer, but we are bound to be unethical and cause others suffering in o...
Possibly? Nihilism means one has no values. Nothing is right, nothing is wrong except perhaps one's own interests and will to power. I think of The Bi...
So you are turning this into historical analysis. Do I need to provide figures of when majority of Americans thought slavery to be at least tolerable,...
Well right, so let's say you judge "working at X" to be good. Why is it good for someone else? That's where the trickiness of it lies- when dealing wi...
Yes indeed. But then a parent doesn't have the benefit of knowing the specific person's experiences or evaluations in the world, so ergo the "most peo...
Is it sufficient if what action is being taken is imposing X things on another person, and doing so unnecessarily (not ameliorating greater with lesse...
You're missing the point.. A majority of people can be wrong.. That was a hypothetical example... Also Nazis didn't win nor kill everyone else off, so...
Excellent distinction between the two ideas which most people mix up. Good for you for embracing the often misrepresented idea of philosophical pessim...
Freedom of will means more burdens on why we do anything at all.. Not so sure that's better that rote instinctual responses to stimuli and rather pred...
Indeed. Can "most people" be mistaken about how good something is? I brought up the idea of an exploited worker who cheerfully overlooks being exploit...
Indeed. You make a decision on another's behalf because you think a majority of people would want this decision made for them... but I'm saying: 1) Mo...
Right nor wrong about the harm done. I explained how one can be harmed without knowing it. Certainly one is harmed in life. Certainly one can be okay ...
A lot of analogies simply cannot apply. This is the only time you are making a choice for someone else and that can never have a recourse other than a...
And if they are not? Is this averaging then correct? The implication isn't just one thing (like a surprise party).. You are playing averages with a wh...
True, I guess this argument has turned into two: 1) Does a majority of people mean it is permissible to do something that a minority views as wrong? H...
Professionals suffer from many biases. But besides that, as explained to Isaac, the extent of the majority doesn't mean much about the rightness or wr...
Just because its not as decisive as majority takes away nothing from the analogy..Many people condoned slavery.. In the US it was enshrined in the Con...
True.. I can't disagree too much with this.. I find it funny that we are on the lookout for all sorts of exploitation except the major one ha. It's to...
Right, I guess everything is subectivized.. So the boss exploiting the willing-worker is okay in doing so because, the worker doesn't perceive his own...
Sometimes people don't want to be convinced. You must admit that too. I just think a wrong can take place without "most people" knowing it. Can it be ...
But it's not just they are not obliged.. They are forcing the situation and then post-facto saying "Oh I'm not obliged". It's not obliging it's enabli...
Hence my thread about the "Most people" defense (which I claim is still wrong): https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/11469/the-most-people-defens...
Yes I think I agree with this. So in the realm of antinatalism (AN), what I am referring to here is the decision to procreate another person here is a...
Granted and I welcome arguments, just more congenial versions of it. Not everything is "cut the other guys throat".. not all the time for me at least....
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