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Sorry the delay - real life got in the way What I would say is joe has no right to make any kind of value judgment about bob preference at all and sti...

ok - can you try it one more time in a complete though ?

how can one relative judgement be better than another relative judgment - by definition they are equal - they can only be unequal if there is some obj...

we are talking past each other - i don't feel you understand the point I am making - I am very sure that is my fault - but I am out of ways to explain...

can't play these word games with you. I have restated the concept like 4 times to you - i can't do it any better sorry - I am out of other ways to say...

I think competing stances between moral relativists are on completely equal ground - by definition

i have no issue with that at all - but the relative art critic must accept relative judgment of other relative art critics

no i am only dealing with relative morality - the whole point is how a moral relativist interacts with a moral view different than his own. Nothing in...

no issue with that - if as equal moral relativists we accept each others relative moral judgments. If that is what you are saying.

no - we are not understanding each other - my point has nothing at all with objective morality at all - you are assuming something I am not saying.

So where is the line between "any ultimate, universal, god-given grounding of truth, moral or otherwise, is not possible," and "within specific contex...

running out of language here To Moral relativist A - action X is immoral To Moral relativist B - action X is moral If morality is relative to the indi...

In my mind, i am not arguing about the merits of one moral philosophy over another - which is what I think you are doing above. No issue with that at ...

I am not sure it is even consistent for a moral relativist to have any view on the moral view of others, other than " I am not them -how can i judge t...

Have no difficulty with a view of moral relativity where each person feels the stance is morally right and the other stance is not. My point is i don'...

Ok - and I then can have the same view back at you. That you are then equally wrong and different, and I am of course right about that relative to me.

So than do you tell me - that my moral judgement is wrong? Or different ?

so if you are a moral relativist, and I am a moral relativist, can we both have different moral judgments on some action, and agree the other judgemen...

certainly not the last time that will happen -

The issue I was pointing to is not that the moral relativist shouldn't care, but why would he comment. My understanding of moral relativism would be s...

I think i see your point - What i was asking was - If Tim Wood's point was IF you are a moral relativist ( either a meta or normative one), then how c...

If point was, why should we care about the opinion about morality - from a moral relativist, if he him/herself's core belief is the position only appl...

Thanks enjoyed the review, and will look into the book. Agree of course. I think the popular atheism in the article is a somewhat real product of a mo...

NOW GET OFF OF MY LAWN !!!!

not sure it was you point, but people believe things all the time without empirical proof - sometimes despite empirical proof We believe the guy drivi...

The base debate at the creation of the US was the role/power of the the Central government in relation to the power of the individual states. The crea...

A post from yesterday on a different thread. IMO the application of science - Technology - is driven by inherently human drives - mostly power and mon...

no worries -

agree - but can you reconcile your answer above, with the point you made to ? By saying this: Your mistake is confusing physical scale for our positio...

What is your reasonable argument that you can have any idea at all where we as human beings stand on such a thing as a scale of knowledge - with zero ...

IMO the application of science - Technology - is driven by inherently human drives - mostly power and money - but occasionally and to a lesser degree ...

yea - agree not sure the concept summarizes very well. And I find it a very difficult and slow read. But i will take a pass at it. by " absolute and l...

have no issue in general with your point - but language like this is pejorative and IMO should be avoided.

Thanks - again not sure i did a very good job of explaining Rahner's point - sorry the long cut and paste - but thought I would put a more professiona...

Will have to respectfully disagree, hope someday to elevate to work in progress, but not there yet. Appreciate the kind words - thank you

thanks - i think what Rahner was saying is, it is a part of human nature to seek for this meaning, for some explanation of why we are here, and and fo...

just making a joke, Camus- absurd- get it ?

Been looking at some Karl Rahner writing last few days. So in speaking to a person who claimed they had never experienced God. "I don’t believe you; I...

completely agree, I get narcissistic, egomaniacs exist, the fact that otherwise normal people voted and after all this, continue to support one for PO...

didn't read all of that, but guess I agree. Just kidding of course. I do agree in general with all of that. I do find some Gish gallop posts here, and...

Often I wonder if my reply to someone was actually read. Seems every so often they are more scaned than read. Looking for some word steam in them to b...

thanks will do

All - sorry all the misspellings it is Rahner, no particular good excuse, mea culpa

Jake - sorry this took so long. Maybe the best I have seen on this point is from Karl rathner he refers to God as Mystery, a mystery we are inherently...

he didn't count himself as an existentialist either

Here is the full quote: "THERE is but one truly serious philosophical problem, and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amo...

So if I use your number line above . . . -4, -3, -2, -1, 0, +1, +2, +3, +4 Lets set the big bang at 0, and call it T0. So right now there is near unan...

could quite possibly be the best single quote about science i have read on the board.

yes and every other theory in physics you have heard is an approximation of reality by definition. At the core all physics is is a mathematical model ...

actually all physics is, at its core, is a mathematical model of some reality or observation. Which then allows you to change the variables and make p...