I wish. Not sure it is possible for humans to "truly love: everyone, and certainly not all the time. I sure know I can't. Think we are getting to a po...
if someone could truly and honestly in their heart believe that I would agree. I can't see how that is possible - but I admit i could have a blind spo...
yea - My posit was they really can't. how is your calling you not being able to think of a way they can a fortiori an argument back against that? I do...
What concept in our discussion would you say in "unconscious mental content" I don't see, suffering, desire, or love meeting a criteria of some kind o...
can you explain to me how prostitution increases love of yourself or of others? I may well be too deeply entrenched in my own point of view to think o...
In the secular maybe, depending on your belief if we can in our deepest most honest selves actually lie to ourselves. I don't think we can. Do you thi...
If in your most honest self that is your pure motivation. ( that is the my attempt at a secular answer) The Jesuit answer would be something called "a...
of course they can. no one acts on every desire - good or bad. If your point is there is no suffering without action. I agree, just not particularly p...
no we don't we just need to define suffering. I would hope some garden variety general understanding of suffering would do. There is nothing circular ...
think this point from above addresses this point. " As far as " they could make a different decision" that again, for me comes down to if the desire i...
Don't see where i did any of that. What seems circular is you saying I proposed something circular and then said it was circular. What I proposed was,...
I have no issue with any of that, and in fact do a great deal of it myself in one way or another. But the point is, that is theology not philosophy. A...
absolutely agree that legalizing prostitution would make prostitution legal. Not sure that is any great insight. My point was it would not make the de...
and on what possible basis could we defend as reasonable anything at all we could say on our guesses on what motivation or behavior mean for such a th...
been thinking, and at least with my frame of reference - I cant think of an example of the above. I think there is always some disordered desire at pl...
think I have to respectfully disagree with the above. I would still propose the disordered desires are the proximate cause off the suffering. "whateve...
Am I correct that what you are saying here is there is no link between the desire to pay the coerced and trapped woman and the desire of money to ensl...
How about something like this. Robert Kraft and millions like him have what I would call a disordered desire when it come to sex. To satiate this desi...
not evangelizing - just showing another philosophy on desire and suffering - just a cut an paste of the whole thing - as above telling all to feel fre...
A very Jesuit way of looking at this is not that desire causes suffering, but disordered desires do. Ordered desires - taking the God part out, are th...
I wasn't being nasty, I was pointing out circles exist in nature, and the ratio of the circumstances to the diameters of these circles exist in nature...
sorry before I could possibly address your point you will need to define potato, because there are many things that one can call potato and some may o...
Pre anything is a valid concept, as long as the "anything " exists, and that anything can certainly be space time. The ratio of a circle to its diamet...
absolutely. There is near complete scientific consensus that man's burning fossil fuels are impacting the climate. However, it is also important to ac...
This is all we can do. We have to anthromorphise such a concept as God in order to say anything at all about it. The problem is we have no rational ba...
again, i disagree, at its base all math is, is a numerical model of reality. And it has inherent limits in its ability to do so. In many, maybe even m...
believe I am correct. And you are not understanding my point. But it is a minor point, in the context of the discussion. so will leave it as this. I g...
because it is not an exact numerical relationship of the physical relationship that is why it is called Pi and not just a number - by definition, an i...
While we have no real alternative that to try to understand something like God by applying some anthropomorphic concept. It is important to understand...
Pi is a mathematical approximation ( a very very very good one) of the physical relationship between the circumference and the diameter of a circle. L...
Not arguing, explaining. For Catholics, the authority of the church is a direct and unbroken line from Christ to Peter, to every pope since. And even ...
Wax I think there is certainly evidence of a black hole in the center of the milky way - if memory serves the speed of the gasses circulating the "hol...
sure, and we can never be absolutely, truly a bunch of things. Does the inability of purity make the quest less important? except there is no "truth" ...
how about something like an objective search for truth as you perceive truth to be, and acting in accordance with your truth. Does making wisdom an in...
Agree - and no issue with me - I may be an apologist, but I am not an evangelist There are all kinds of loaded words, and God is sure one of them. The...
understand. Then I am back to my point that nothing has an ontological meaning, existence is harder. Guess the question would be does the space betwee...
again not sure, if a mouse does or does not occupy some specific space at a specific time may have great meaning to a hawk. Maybe I am looking at this...
again not sure "nothing" is pure abstraction. There are such things as time and space. In a specific space at a specific time there exist either somet...
not sure the concept of an absence of something occupying some specific space, in some specific time is any less meaningful than the concept of someth...
agree - was struggling with a way to secularize the concept - but gave up on it. Understanding the obvious leap into a faith based belief would be off...
In Ignatian Spirituality this would be called discernment of spirits. Basically it is an understanding of our decision making. We all make hundreds of...
I think this quote fits here Religion needs science to keep it away from superstition and keep it close to reality, to protect it from creationism, wh...
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