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On first reading I interpreted your puzzle to mean that "You" is a fifth physical person, who has You's own experiences, and in addition has the abili...
January 13, 2026 at 13:30
Yes, in one important sense: The entailment I stated above will hold, regardless of who thinks it, or if anyone does. So if we use "thought" in that s...
January 12, 2026 at 13:20
Do you think that pictures (or the smell) of good food cause hunger in the same way that the thought of "If A, then B; A" causes the thought "therefor...
January 10, 2026 at 13:38
Very good discussion. Here's what I'm wondering: This is quite a commitment. The idea, presumably, is that unlike time, physical processes do not requ...
January 08, 2026 at 13:46
Indeed, and as I said, I wonder whether philosophy is the right mode to give that explanation. We can't know for sure, but it has the feel to me of a ...
January 07, 2026 at 00:00
Very good. I'm reminded of the so-called "ripple effect" theory that Christian theologians have sometimes offered to explain how the incarnation worke...
January 06, 2026 at 16:03
Yes, though maybe we should use scare-quotes: "The babe has not yet learned to see 'the ship' and doesn't do so until they do so under description." T...
January 04, 2026 at 21:59
Totally agree about the metaphors! He inherited "reference magnetism" from David Lewis and others, and "carving at the joints" is Plato, but still . ....
January 04, 2026 at 21:41
Picking up on these observations: By starting with the idea of "looking at a ship", we can be misled into believing that to perceive a ship is always ...
January 03, 2026 at 23:48
Yes, I like that. It shows that, if there is indeed something different about ontological structure, the difference must have a degree of non-subjecti...
January 03, 2026 at 23:31
Your post focuses on some important stuff. I like the way a good conversation can do some chaff-separating, helping all parties see what's really wort...
January 01, 2026 at 13:47
I think it depends on how comprehensive the "book" must be. I think you're right that the ways are boundless, since humans are but one type of conscio...
December 30, 2025 at 21:59
That would be cool, but one way or the other, yes, good conversation. And @"Wayfarer" can of course elucidate, but I took him to mean that a "law" isn...
December 30, 2025 at 21:36
Interesting OP, thanks. Reading the presuppositions, the first thought I had was that most laymen, even quite educated ones, still make the same pre-1...
December 30, 2025 at 14:17
This really gets to the tough problem. Let's agree that we'll use "naive realism" to mean the idea that 1) there is a description of the world that is...
December 28, 2025 at 20:56
I think we basically agree, and you're right to make the distinction (which I did not) between illusion and simple difference, perhaps due to one's sp...
December 28, 2025 at 13:26
The last couple of weeks, I've noticed that I'm not being emailed about some of the references, replies, and quotes from my posts. I can't see any pat...
December 27, 2025 at 14:42
Great insight. And the acid test would be: By drawing the joints this way, can you increase the substantivity of the discussion? Can you head off disp...
December 27, 2025 at 14:27
Could be. What do you think it is?
December 27, 2025 at 13:30
So it's just about human reckoning? I was wanting you to make a bigger claim: I asked, "If there could somehow be a view-from-nowhere perspective on w...
December 26, 2025 at 23:57
Well, no, I don't see the argument for it. But anyone attending the Lectures on Metaphysics, given in 1935, would have heard that "in speaking of grea...
December 26, 2025 at 22:31
Thanks for the excellent OP and thoughtful shepherding of the ensuing discussion. You may not need another cook for this broth, but . . . This asserti...
December 26, 2025 at 14:40
Yes. I would add that the "different concepts" may be seen as more or less perspicacious, more or less adequate in capturing ontological structure. Th...
December 26, 2025 at 13:53
I really can't disagree with this. An actual adoption of Ontologese is utopian, or possibly dystopian, as you point out. But if, having taking Sider's...
December 24, 2025 at 13:44
Very good discussion! Especially because I see a lot of latitude in interpreting what Sider recommends. To say it again -- his main concern is to draw...
December 22, 2025 at 22:35
OK, I understand. You value the "leap of faith" whether it's religious or merely toward an ethical ideal. I agree that "faith" or "belief" (in this se...
December 22, 2025 at 21:52
I'm happy with this way of putting it, as long as we remember that being "about language" is in a sense peripheral. I'm just highlighting Sider's poin...
December 22, 2025 at 13:35
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Yes, we shouldn't get too lost in abstractions here. The problem with racism and homophobia is that it insists on telling people they are defective wh...
December 21, 2025 at 23:54
Could you clarify this a little? What would constitute proof that a given entity exists? I assume you're not using "proof" in the logical sense of bei...
December 21, 2025 at 23:40
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If this list doesn't constitute homophobia, what does? Do you have to advocate imprisonment or violence? Should TPF tolerate homophobia? No.
December 21, 2025 at 13:27
A "thick" term can also pack an emotional or spiritual punch. This is a type of connotation, but worth calling out on its own. We're reluctant -- I th...
December 20, 2025 at 14:38
This is a good target statement for the viewpoint that "fundamental structure" can only be fundamental to a certain perspective. Your use of "everyday...
December 20, 2025 at 14:14
There's a fascinating book called Baboon Metaphysics: The Evolution of a Social Mind, by Cheney and Seyfarth, that makes a strong case that baboons ha...
December 20, 2025 at 13:33
I'm not sure that helps. We can think of far too many cases -- the majority, probably -- in which suffering is bad for specific reasons. Let me really...
December 18, 2025 at 17:02
With all of these quotes, we're focusing on a key point for Sider and the idea of reference magnetism. I believe it's a somewhat open question. If we ...
December 18, 2025 at 14:43
Thanks for your appreciation, and I'm really glad the concepts made sense, and spoke to experiences you've previously had doing philosophy. It was muc...
December 18, 2025 at 00:08
But not to assume it is to assume something much harder to swallow -- that this is indeed the best of all possible worlds, so good that not even God c...
December 17, 2025 at 21:02
This is an interesting context to put it in. First off, I agree there's some similarity with what Williams is doing with "thick terms," in that Willia...
December 17, 2025 at 13:47
OK. I thought you were drawing a distinction between the two terms, in terms of metaphysical possibility, but no matter. I now see you mean them both ...
December 17, 2025 at 13:10
Trying to grasp this . . . Are you saying that "omnipotent" and "maximally powerful" don't mean the same thing, in what you're calling classical theis...
December 16, 2025 at 13:34
Probably true. The "amnesia theodicy" would require that God eliminate even such unconscious bodily traumas.
December 15, 2025 at 18:26
That's probably true, but these discussions do show that the classical problem isn't necessarily the only way to frame our understanding of God and ev...
December 13, 2025 at 14:46
Glad it makes some sense. This is a nice coincidence, because I'm trying to finish up an OP about this very thing. "What X means" is not a straightfor...
December 12, 2025 at 01:56
Yes, almost always. But philosophy is one context in which they are not. Consider the context of the discussion you quoted: We're trying to decide whe...
December 11, 2025 at 19:52
OK, that's better. I didn't realize you wanted the second instrument to be playing something that would be mistaken for an overtone produced by the fi...
December 10, 2025 at 19:35
I guess I'm not understanding your question. If an oboe plays an A, that is a tone with overtones. If you actually change the overtones, it doesn't so...
December 10, 2025 at 15:53
It isn't very good, as a work of art. But it does capture that "draining life of meaning" feeling. It's a problem for philosophers, isn't it? We tend ...
December 10, 2025 at 13:52
If the actual overtones were changed, that would be a change in the sound played on the first instrument, and it would be objectively measurable. Chan...
December 10, 2025 at 13:39
That's a great way of putting it. (And we see again how binaries like illusion/reality can rapidly become so equivocal as to be unhelpful. "Are illusi...
December 09, 2025 at 23:58
Strong arguments. Nicely done. You perhaps know that this "heaven theodicy" is found in Kant (in the 2nd critique, I believe, though I can't cite the ...
December 09, 2025 at 22:21