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:smile: you're doomed

Definitely. I don't think a global government is likely. Next best thing: a new global religion. Can't plan for that, though. They just pop up when th...

I did read it in my teens.

Reduction wouldn't solve the problem. We need to stop burning hydrocarbons period. There's no way to get the whole world to make the transition withou...

Notice how you have to get more and more aggressive to get the same satisfaction? It's dopamine withdrawal.

That's really not true. You're just bitter.

If you followed the PETM reference, you'd see that we are the result of climate change. Too philosophical?

I just don't see that happening.

Yeah, but you're still utterly doomed. That's the important take away.

Sad isnt the word I would use, but yes, we have the power to end our species in a number of ways.

I understand what you're saying. I don't doubt that dramatic change is before us. I just think that the level of misery in the world won't actually in...

We already get mass migrations, serious food shortages and lots of natural disasters. We're still capable of living high tech, pretty decent lives. Ho...

Why do you think that?

If you will bother to read the book: we will be close to baseline in 10,000 years. No wait, you're right! It's a permanent change and it will escalate...

I've had a realization. David Archer is wrong. It's a permanent change and it will positive feedback until the Earth's surface becomes pretty similar ...

Oh, sorry. 90%, not 100%. And you're welcome for turning you in to the reliable shit. :roll:

True. There are several ginormous chunks of coal on the planet that are left to be burned. If we could avoid doing that, it would make it easier to sc...

We'll be back to close to baseline in 10,000 years. In 100,000, all the CO2 humans pumped out will be absorbed. There's a long tail. That book is a li...

With a global government and maybe a new global religion, with China as host, yes.

The Long Thaw by David Archer, one of the few who's done long range climate modeling. No, it's not permanent. CO2 is water soluble.

Our fellow citizens will already be dead when the spike comes. It's not a high speed event.

We've faced worse. Look up Younger Dryas. Not all at once. We'll go into a warmer climate for a few thousand years and the oceans will absorb the CO2....

The species will adapt to the change. There's no reason now to think we can't.

Yep. They're next.

There's apparently a lot of people with an America complex in the world.

That was a reply to Janus, who found it impossible to conceive of an entity that tells you it's conscious when it isn't.

If you read a little about Chalmers' p-zombie argument it will become clear to you why your objections are irrelevant. I have no interest in explainin...

Not an ad hominem. It's just a fact.

It's kind of blatantly obvious that you aren't familiar with Chalmers or philosophy of mind in general.

Why would that be a problem for the argument?

A computer can't tell you it's conscious?

Me too. The important thing is to continue dwelling on the US like it's the Antichrist instead of the aging footnote in the history books it actually ...

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The argument is just about conceivability. Your question shows you've gone beyond conceiving of the P-zombie to asking why it's like that. That's all ...

Ok. You and Xtrix are in the same side, though. Whatever you want to call it. The EU is also run by neoliberal principles, so maybe there's no leftism...

@"Xtrix" and @"StreetlightX" are both in it for the insults, so now they insult one another. Typical leftists.

How did you resolve the contradiction?

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Not really. The British invented modern global trade by violent means. The US has never been in their league, nor ever will be

I recommended it 12 years ago.

Yeah, by me.

I know. The British tried to do it to the US after the American Revolution. I guess the US learned from the best.

Looks like I'll have to read it a little at a time. It's looks rough. I know South America has been a target for decades. Just systematically undermin...

Also

Carthage was a Phoenician colony, but Tyre never controlled it.

I'm reading! :grin: I see what you're saying.

We have a colony on Mars.

Yep. If you're going to be dealing with addicts, you might be interested in this, although it's long. You may not have time to watch it. https://youtu...

Addiction is always about dopamine.