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I bet you thought that that sounded clever, but it is just an uncharitable and irrelevant attack on a person's presumed motive and their character, ra...

I will award a point to whoever can correctly name this fallacy.

Are you trying to goad moral relativists into defending your own strawmen? Is there a moral relativist here who would say that? That makes it sound tr...

I am certain that that is not at all what he was doing with the analogy. He has even explicitly stated that moral preferences aren't trivial in the wa...

...are a figment of your imagination as far as I can reasonably tell. You're not a philosopher, you're a dogmatist. Didn't Kant decry dogmatism, by th...

Anyone who obstinately persists in their own misunderstanding of what the other side is arguing should take a time out and consider the principle of c...

That's a good way of explaining it. Hopefully those who make the error you're explaining will see why it is an error, and why it makes no sense whatso...

Exactly. That's what I meant in my reply to him about what he said being too ambiguous.

What you just said is too ambiguous for me to say whether or not I agree with it. I don't morally accept someone else's moral judgement if it doesn't ...

What's your point? That is indeed how it works and how we think. You think you're right and I'm wrong, I think I'm right and you're wrong. To you, you...

Hey! Do you mind? I'm trying to be smartarse here? How dare you try to steal my spotlight. Respect your younger!

Not yours. Yours is sinking. And you're too busy wallowing around to do anything about it. :grin:

Do you know what really floats my boat? Me, myself and I.

What jokes? I really am better looking.

Nothing in excess. Maturity has its place, as does humour, as does wit. I like to spice things up with a combination of the aforementioned. Only a dum...

My three favourite words. They sound better coming from me.

Respect your elder. I am older and wiser than you. And better looking.

I relented ages ago. Better that then making a pig's ear of everything. Or rather, even more of a pig's ear.

Yes, it really is. You should take a leaf out of my book.

I try to avoid making those kind of generalisations about the elderly, the youthful, men, women, gay people, black people...

Sorry, but what's your point here beyond expressing your biased admiration of the elderly? Is there one? Or is that it? If it's that we should follow ...

Yes, that's another example of what I said. And? You're biased in favour of the elderly, and I should care about that because...?

That you're biased in favour of the elderly due to a stereotype. The point was selfexplanatory.

Think about the fact that not all grandmothers fit the stereotype of a kind and mothering old lady. Respect should be given when it is deserved, irres...

It doesn't follow that it's not, unless your definition makes it so. In that case, the real question would be: why are you doing that? It doesn't seem...

You've not said anything relevant there again. That is just truism. You've had that problem throughout this discussion. No one even made that claim as...

Okay, then continue with your mumbo jumbo, even though it does you no good.

I know what I mean. Do you think that we mean the same thing? :brow: You might well be more than happy to talk past me, but I think that that would be...

It's both.

Both. Just don't misinterpret the latter. Think about it how I would think about it, as a moral relativist would think about it, that is. I can help y...

No, that's the trouble with a poor way of thinking about moral relativism. :rofl: Kant's categorical imperative is a joke. What I think about everythi...

What you were describing is amoralism. Moral relativism is not amoralism. Tim wood was making the same mistake. Like I said, these are common misunder...

Bingo.

Why wouldn't he? Then you have a very poor understanding of moral relativism. Unfortunately, these sort of misunderstandings are common. I don't accep...

No, because my personal moral views matter, irrespective of those of society as some sort of "collective". What if I was the only non-racist in a raci...

Why shouldn't we care? Again, your reaction seems to indicate an illogical connection. You wouldn't care if I had the moral belief that black people a...

That's a non sequitur. I think that it is fallacious. And it is doubly so if it is intended to represent what I'm doing. I've done the opposite by emp...

Well it is amoral. Let's be clear. Your evaluation is just that. There's no moral value inherent in anything, and your evaluation doesn't magically ma...

Okay, so you're a subjective relativist like me.

It's about what I said and you quoting it out of context. If you have nothing meaningful to say about that then let's move on. What are you talking ab...

Sure, etiquette is only part of it. I never said that it's the whole story, did I? You only quoted one little sentence out of everything that I said. ...

Ah yes, that's why I fell in love with you, like a female black widow spider falls in love with a male of the same species.

Me or you? :chin:

Which of her daddies are you referring to? Me or you?

Her name was Badenetta. I named her after my one true love. She died when she was just five years of age. She asked me for something to eat, and I rep...

That's not funny. My only child died of sarcasm. Have you no common decency? You should be ashamed of yourself, and you owe me an apology for being so...

Common decency, as you seem to be using that term, is a superficial and snooty concept for superficial and snooty people. I prefer uncommon decency. I...

This is basically a parody of itself, so I don't really have to lift a finger. But I will, because I can't resist pointing out what's wrong with your ...

Ah jeez, Rick. I knew you were a whiny little bitch. :lol: If I was a woman, I would find this patronising. Your apology is an even bigger insult than...

I can't believe it has been three years and you're still not ready to leave the nest. Do I have to climb up that tree and knock you out of it? :lol: