>...and in English? Here you go: it’s legitimate to frame your moral position toward the negotiation deal in a way that is logically consistent with y...
I know the quote function. I simply find it uncomfortable for personal reasons. But I don't want to infringe any forum rule. So is that a forum rule o...
> Neither do I. You can have at my moral judgements using any data you like. Simply saying 'because X you must think Y' is not an argument. I've claim...
> No doubt in your simple world it's the only possible interpretation of what has been an extremely long and complex exchange in a medium doubly flawe...
>(2) doesn't even mention 'defending one's nation'. Not to mention it's denying a claim I didn't make, not making a claim itself. It seems you weren’t...
> My point requires only that the policies of the ruling classes cause some deaths among the working classes I don’t think so. First of all your claim...
> You just keep claiming that “the rich oppress the poor far more consistently than one nation oppresses another” without providing evidences and whil...
> So how does this 'fact' link to the morality of fighting for one's nation? Lots of people value money too. Does that make fighting over money moral?...
> There is an anthropological fact ... Nationality is one way we understand our social identity. — neomac That's not an anthropological fact, it's an ...
> If you find it morally defensible and I don't, I don't see how much further we can go as there are few arguments that can profitably be brought to b...
Thanks Manuel, but going back and forth when there are too many quotes to comment on and little/scattered spare time to dedicate is unpractical to me....
> The part in parentheses was "even if sometimes only figuratively", Ie not necessarily referring to an actual flag. The flag represents control by th...
> So the Russian legitimate security concerns triggered by the West that led to this war ultimately consisted in whose flag is decorating the Ukrainia...
> Yes, something like. Mostly 'security concerns' in terms of international politics come down to whose flag is over the parliament (even if sometimes...
> Wars cause enormous harms, including to people who have no say in the decisions (children, future generations), so only the plausible avoidance of g...
And the irony is that those who accuse the West of lacking critical thinking about their own corrupted and hypocritical democratic institutions, and w...
> The link is to having reasons to post about it, not reasons to believe it. I know it's hard for the Twitter generation to understand but I don't fee...
> I didn't say it was 'required' did I? I said I had no reason to. Not liking cricket gives me no reason to play cricket. Is that the same as saying I...
To think strategically or morally about this war doesn’t require you to be Russian, nor to talk to Russians. So your question is grounded on a non-seq...
All right, I’ll expand my argument with a premise. I see 2 distinct kinds of possible evaluations on the current Ukraine-Russia conflict: one is strat...
A real danger? You keep asking for evidences (which already seems to clash with the idea that we are living in a news environment poisoned by propagan...
Who knows? Maybe it will end as the Afghan wars with the Soviet Union first and with the US later ended. But most importantly, since making concession...
So options A,B,C are practically saying that the West supporting Ukrainian defence is coward, hypocrite and cynical. While you would choose D which im...
You didn't specify anywhere what kind of conversation you want in your post. This is a public forum about Ukrainian crisis. You made a claim that I as...
Then by your definition I'm not warmongering. I didn't want a war between Russia and Ukraine nor I want it to be continued. I was talking about my exp...
I don't expect the victims of an aggression to make peace with the aggressor, especially while the latter is rampaging with the aggression. Unless the...
No the problem is that Putin has framed the 'evil neo-nazi Ukrainians vs. noble holy-warrior Putin&Russians' in the first place (and persisting with t...
I see zero shock on Senator Rubio's face, voice, posture (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvRpntmUIxs). The next question is just reinforcing the narr...
If they wanted a clear & unequivocal answer from Nuland, they would have asked for such an answer. But they didn’t, and also that can be seen as suspi...
We can not exclude that there are competing views within the American establishment toward this war. Some maybe want to escalate the conflict between ...
For Putin's internal propaganda of course, coz the Ukrainian population wasn't that neonazi afterall. They should have been liberated from the neo-naz...
Right, but what if you do not have a good grasp of your own view? I'm quoting you when I make my objections and then I spell out in detail what I have...
Where is the contradiction? Where is the equivocation? Can you exactly spell it out? First of all notice that the subjects are different: “false belie...
> So, when we know that an individual's belief is false, we can also know that it cannot possibly be true, and that the individual cannot knowingly be...
The grain of truth is what I said . And there is no need to fabricate any other narrative around this. Additionally, Putin wants guarantees that Russi...
> Putin says "The west are bullies who ignore the rise of the far-right because it suits them" > You think that not making concessions to his propagan...
> I don't see how that addresses the issue at all. The point is that if Putin needs the humanitarian gloss to cover his invasion (which he evidently d...
> Or then ignore anything Putin says as your negotiation strategy ... but then why go speak about anything if the plan is just to simply ignore the po...
> Guy, this is Putin's stated justification of the war. To justify the costs of the war before the Russian population. But the Ukrainian Jews find thi...
> Yes, the message about neo-Nazis is not a reference to antisemitism. Well Putin expressly talked about antisemitism too in denouncing the Ukrainian ...
> You've still not made clear your link between proof of the scale of Neo-Nazism (its mere existence is not even in question) and its role at the nego...
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