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Dooo eeeeet. One thing I think I'd stand by is saying that while rigor and clarity are defining features of analytic philosophy -- even values commonl...

well -- here's an attempt at replacing the whole first paragraph into something succinct. Then move the bullet points down below to different features...

I can't think of another way to say it that's any different from the wiki.

I guess it depends. We could just get by by saying that even if they believe such and such, and there are different meanings to the beliefs, that they...

Cool. My apologies for being slow in replying. So then I think, to focus my first reply here -- which is directed at partial untranslatability -- I'd ...

I'm concerned about criticizing the article correctly, hence my defense of it. But I suppose what gets me is this, @"Banno" -- how do we learn our fir...

Rereading this thread just makes me miss Tgw :( As far as I'm concerned these days, at least -- insofar that you're happy with your life, living a goo...

In one case we disagree because I don't understand what you believe. In the other case we disagree even though I understand what you believe.

Alright I can see that my attempt at demonstrative persuasion didn't work -- but I'm afraid I've lost the plot here Meta. Meaningful disagreement, by ...

Granting that -- there is still a difference between true sentences, and a mind's truths, and a mind's beliefs. A true sentence is: On the 25th of Nov...

Yeah, right! ;)

Cool. Just as long as we keep it in mind I think that's all that's needed -- since they are stock characters, it is we who are actually talking, putti...

ah! That's... very nice and good. Thank you. Gotta think. Also, whilst I have fielded a few retorts today... well, you know -- family, life, and all t...

Cool. So let's take a trip into partial untranslatability. But first I feel it important to note that these are stock characters -- the materialist an...

:) Thanks. I feel the warm fuzzies of flattery.

If we're talking about competing beliefs in talking about different conceptual schemes then we're not talking about two sets of beliefs that can both ...

Yes. But he also does make an argument for this, too -- not just to accept it by fiat. And it's important to note, I believe, that this is in the sect...

@"Banno" Alright, I'm finishing up now Do we understand truth independently of translation? Davidson answers no. In short he does this because convent...

I got that feeling, too -- or, at least, that my reading of Kuhn/Feyerabend differed enough from Davidson to make me want to make some kind of distinc...

Cool. Will do, though I'm chunking it because, hey, I still gotta work and I get tired too :). It's helping me too just to directly write out the argu...

A new culprit emerges in the next paragraph -- Strawson. This by way of introducing two different sorts of conceptual schemes, the contrast point bein...

So I set out to try and do as you did and summarize the argument Davidson is making into as brief a post as possible. Just to make sure I'm tracking. ...

This helps, thanks. I'm ruminating. Plus about to get ready and have a good old boardgame night with friends. :D But thanks for working on the reply.

I'd say that comes from page 2 of the essay: And so on. He briefly touches on beliefs where language and conceptual schemes are not related in this wa...

It's a very smart paper that caters to my approach, and which drew my interest because -- which may be predictable -- I meant to disagree with it. :) ...

Digging through some of my notes on this -- https://arxiv.org/abs/1312.4057 is a paper that argues in favor of your notion of translatability from the...

Me too. But it's been awhile. Even visiting this paper has been awhile. I remember getting the gist of it and thinking it a strong argument, but getti...

Aighty. I suppose I'll pick out ones I can formulate an answer to then. Because it is pleasurable. We do not get people to care. This is not how care ...

I have no such system. Also, I'm not so sure that I'm even trying to build one. There are a handful of questions I enjoy exploring. I especially enjoy...

Right. So you care about making the world a better place, but you don't know how to make the world a better place because you have a new belief -- a b...

You do not care about causes, positive societal change, or the greater good -- but you care about what caring about those things did for you, it seems...

It's the latter that I like it for. But alas, that's merely aesthetic. Blue was a nice, soothing color.

Well I, for one, just want to see the words change black. ;) But I'm amenable to changing things to make folks happy.

OK! I, for whatever reason, didn't pick up on the emphasis on morality. Reread your posts, and they're interesting, but I don't have more to say right...

Well -- I, for one, want to hear more. Though don't we have external ends, now? I think wealth acquisition is a kind of external end, no? And, in our ...

It's a little empty -- but only because we are stuck in certain habits, I think. I mean 3 can mean all kinds of things. It's kind of a negative space ...

I might go further and say that the first two solutions don't seem to be effective. What would count as the commons, now? Anything owned by public ent...

I will say that it was only a few months ago (6 maybe?) where the opposite was the case. These sorts of discussions just roll in and out in favor of a...

That's a good question. At least for me to ponder on. Every answer I've run through right now seems superficial. Something like poetry? But the philos...

I hope you'll forgive some creative stretching here. These are ideas I've played with awhile without getting anywhere. I'd like to start from a positi...

Under this parsing I agree that I cannot know that I know things, and perhaps that is the absurdity -- but bear with me a moment. I hope to highlight ...

I think I'd offer another alternative reading, here. I'd say that the intent behind calling all politics as identity politics is to call into question...

I don't know if it's totally alien, though of course all of our experiences are likely different to some degree too -- and its this mixture of agreeme...

Do you believe that a person who ascribes to the belief "All politics is identity politics" thinks of identity politics in this way, or in the other w...

I don't think we are far apart with respect to what I might term hyper-rationalists -- I take that to be the target of your thread. But the devil is i...

It may not be what you're talking about -- but doesn't that make sense of why someone might say "All politics are identity politics"? I don't know if ...

Sure. Let's take distributive power. We can divide the world up into income brackets, say, and look at what these people care about or what their life...

Cool. Then I think our main disagreement is just in our characterization of introspection. I don't really think of it as a method for gaining knowledg...

Right! And so we have a distinction between high-grade and low-grade exercises of power. Now, could these different grades of power have relationships...

Well, if power is flat, then violence is just another instance of power, one of many expressions of our social world. I haven't posited that power act...