Moliere

Yes. Or, what I'd rather say, is there's a difference between one's preference and one's aesthetic taste. The latter can be "trained" such that prefer...

Cool. Conceptual art is something I don't really understand, but Warhol makes sense enough that I'm understanding. Perhaps the following might be cond...

Looking back at the ending of Speculative Moment and I found its conclusion beautiful: Goes to your noting that Adorno wants to give expression to the...

I think there's still one thing that needs answered here, still. Even if ice cream is an aesthetic judgment in the manner you propose we would not say...

It looks interesting, from the wikipedia page.

Agreed on both counts. I'm prone to thinking of induction as a kind of myth. Not the bad kind, but the good kind -- that is still a myth. Let's take t...

:D You're not wrong. But, descriptively, don't people sometimes reason in this manner? Or is it a philosopher's fiction?

I think if we weaken their universality it's something of a common theme amongst philosophers: instead of the form we often say things more loosely li...

Actually, nope! I know precious little of him, and it's third-hand hearsay through George Dickie, basically. Ad it's not like I read everything of his...

I hadn't thought about it like that until now. I was mostly looking for points of comparison. The "must" in think alike is descriptive, I believe, rat...

On Danto -- yes! That's a sort of "beginning" for my thinking on the categorical question of art. But my exposure to that idea is from George Dickie, ...

I'll try and give more detail, then. There's at least two ways I can think of making a standard. One is some formal prescription which holds for all p...

Because any standard will do as far as I'm concerned. I did use "lively" as a possible standard for concluding a composer is "good", but there's surel...

Sure there is. Let's say that a composer which is lively is a composer which is good. We'll have some identifying criteria for what we mean by "lively...

Page 30(Printed at bottom)/Page 31(PDF page)-- I'm wondering if anyone has thoughts on what "thingly bad state of affairs" means. I was wondering if i...

Let's take Kant's maxim to never lie. Would it undermine the maxim in the first sense of the CI if we added one exception, such as "Never lie, unless ...

Yup, that's how I read it. But with what came before I'd say a couple more things for a summation, I think. I think he's addressing the positivists sk...

@"unenlightened" Terribly sorry. I'll cease at once.

*puts pearls back, ready at a moments notice*

Excellent comparisons, all around. A question popped to my mind on this just now: How would Davidson distinguish "belief" from "I think..." ? Somethin...

Does the aesthetic transcend reason? Well, perhaps, though I am trying to keep within the bounds of reason. So there may be this transcendent beauty, ...

Good question. It seems to me that the CI would be necessary, i.e. hold in all possible (moral?) worlds. I'm just spitballing here, but supposing the ...

It definitely makes sense and I think it's close enough to say yes, that's how science does it -- but I must note the caveat that "science" is a huge ...

Accepting my feelings was the most helpful thing for me. To give credence to @"unenlightened" -- if the 20 hour work week is established then I'm pret...

Furthermore, I don't care about the why as much as I care about the "How do I deal with it?" There are cases where people report no longer feeling tha...

I started to think about sentences which might be true regardless of context. In the extreme tautologies, but those are not interesting. Ethical belie...

I'm undergoing a paradigm change. For a long time I've held that "A fact is a true sentence" And now I'm starting to think I need to add to it -- "A f...

New idea: Perhaps there's the highly theorized and the un-theorized as a sort of spectrum of aesthetic judgment: They're both judgments that are meant...

I've considered this many times before. There are times I don't show depression. There are even times I don't feel depression. But the world remains t...

Well then -- there it is. Perhaps what's most contentious in my claim here is that aesthetics are more than either a whim or a brain-event.

It could. But that would not be the sort of "why?" I'm asking for. I'm asking for an aesthetic justification -- which would basically be a way of answ...

If so then I'd say it's the same as random creative impulse, whim, and "I like vanilla, but you don't need to" I.e. not subject to philosophical thoug...

Sure.

Disinterested-interest (I feel the need to combine the terms for emphasis) is the attitude one takes towards a particular work of art such as the Mona...

Yeh, basically speaking that's right. The critic isn't just saying "My name is Moliere, and thereby this statue is beautiful!" They have reasons and s...

Oh man, then I'm in trouble. My thought is it's highly theorized interest, in the sense that I know what I'm interested in and I know what other peopl...

This is what I have in mind: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/aesthetic-judgment/#Disi The "interest" is "beautiful" or "sublime" -- but the judgmen...

In that spirit -- as I understand Disinterested Interest it's obviously paradoxical on its face. Another way to put it might be a trained interest. So...

Could be. I'm invoking Kant's use, as I understand it at least. Ultimately it wouldn't matter who where what when as long as we understand one another...

Your process of looking at pleasure as repulsive is a good exercise in thinking through aesthetics, I think. It'd take the attitude of disinterested i...

This is very much how I look at training in philosophy. I think people misunderstand how much training and discipline goes into the arts when they rea...

Hey fellow traveler. I can certainly see why I'm attracted to the existentialists -- Camus' The Myth of Sisyphus has provided comfort in many circumst...

Yes, I agree. The part that makes me wonder is -- while "knowledge" might mean different things to different philosophers, I'm not sure there's a phil...

Though something to add to that -- I'm wondering if people are familiar with the idea of a disinterested interest? I think it could do work with respe...

This is a great reflection. So, yes, this is the sort of thing I'm thinking through. What I'd call your two different thinkers are two different aesth...

Now you're just tempting me to point out we have a choice :D I'll follow along with the not-family-resemblance interpretation.

I have no problem with that. I'd hand it to the analytic philosopher to provide this knowledge, too. And I'd accept their rejection of odd counter-exa...

Heh, fair. And so that'd be another case I'd have to make. True, it's not as wide as what "wisdom literature" captures -- especially with respect to t...

So naturally what I'd say is "within the tradition of analytic philosophy values are quarantined. In its place is some non-value term called "function...

So the part I'd focus in on is "...can be judged to succeed or fail as a bridge", because this utility is what I'd say are the sorts of we'll call the...