Baden

Apples and oranges are both types of fruit; therefore, apples are the same as oranges. No, you're comparing apples and oranges.

I told you it was off-topic in the last thread, which it was, and I answered you here.

I condemn racism, period. Now, racist quotes, please?

You need to back these accusations up with evidence, i.e. quotes. Otherwise, retract. I don't think it generally is. "White privilege", for example, d...

It's the definition of racism to focus on arbitrary biological characteristics as, in themselves, important, no?

It doesn't but that didn't happen in 180's case as far as I can see. I mean, it's possible to be racist against whites, but it's kind of like men comp...

If you took every white American and made them black and every black American and made them white, I'd be concerned about racism against the whites ra...

Anyway, maybe get back on topic, please. I don't think the charge sticks at all. I think you and T Clark misinterpreted the comment. If you disagree, ...

Criticizing the belief that Jesus is white is racism? No, it's the belief that Jesus is white is racist or at least, ignorant and deserving of critici...

Yes, really. https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2020/06/25/how-an-iconic-painting-jesus-white-man-was-distributed-around-world/ “Every time you s...

My interpretation is the phrase "white-jesusism" refers to religious believers that think Jesus was white. So, no racism there anyway except in that b...

Whining about potential racism (which I don't see anyway) against the socially and politically dominant group that runs, controls, and owns the vast m...

Ok, didn't notice, but I don't think racist white southern Jesus freaks need protecting.

The religious are not an ethnic group. And if you think their ideas should be protected then the same principle applies to the ideas of those who reje...

:up: This is the thing that was understood from the start by the British. Even by right-wingers like Thatcher. They talked tough but were always keepi...

Ah, you mean cocks. You and your quaint little language.

Top vid. :eyes: :party:

Anyway, if anyone thought they were unfairly treated, or, for whatever reason, felt they deserved to get themselves unbanned, my suggestion would be t...

None of that applies in this case either to my knowledge. It's all hypothetical. But, generally speaking, we can't unban a poster under circumstances ...

We've banned hundreds of members and maybe one was unbanned. You can conclude from that that it takes something exceptional, maybe an immediate email ...

So, you would be happy for ANTIFA to burn down your house as long as you're given a warning. Off-topic. But, ok, check.

Same modus operandus as the IRA, in fact. Though the IRA were much more consistent in giving warnings and killed far less civilians than Israel has.

That's to say, five grand will do it for me. :kiss:

I liked @"S" (most of the time) and miss him but he kind of chose to give us all the finger in the end. Which is fair enough but not exactly a recipe ...

Crikey.

Tim, you are babbling. The argument is not whether Israel "had to" kill civilians or target civilian buildings in the way that they did. They chose to...

Biased sources are not acceptable in any serious debate. I wouldn't present a Palestinian website as evidence of Palestinian casualties, for example, ...

That argument isn't part of the topic of the thread and I'm not interested in having it. I've got a specific on-topic point to pursue here. Start a ne...

Obviously Israel doesn't have to send warplanes in to bomb civilian tower blocks or media centres or the families of Hamas operatives. Only a complete...

I pretty much agree with this.

Your vague glib statements give me the impression you really don't give a fuck and are just killing time again.

Again, you realize how low that bar is? For example, a group of Hamas operatives go into a coffee shop and do some research. Days later, Israel blows ...

Obviously, many Arab households would be anti-Zionist although if you look at the lack of support among Arab countries for Palestine, you might questi...

Yes, I did respond. I don't know where you are getting these ideas. You seem to be responding to a cartoon version of me now. Slow down a bit.

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Your voice is valid, your arguments are not. And I don't believe I've made any judgements one way or the other on Zionism in this thread other than to...

Providing a Zionist voice equals not engaging in the ethical debate. You can't, by definition, when your priority is not what is ethically correct, bu...

Shawn, Israel has bombed civilian infrastructure, including media outlets, simply because they claim Hamas at some point, used that building. The bar ...

That's not how it works. Yes, we all have our conscious and unconscious biases, goes without saying, but If you're just here to rah rah for the Israel...

I wouldn't dispute that but again, there are inconsistencies with how people view what's a justified response in contexts differing in little other of...

Obviously. It's your one-sided description which I objected to. If you want to justify Israel's response then you have to accurately describe who and ...

Define "using" as a human shield? If it extends to someone from Hamas entered your house therefore Israel has a right to kill you just to get at him t...

First read this. Your chance to retract is now.

This is classic projection. From my time on this site, and unlike you, I have the posts to prove it, what triggers me most is attacks on innocents, pa...

I'll keep my failings rather than suffer yours, but that's neither here nor there. Your depiction of the Palestinian resistance was entirely one-sided...

"Yes I went on the protest, it was the right thing to do: we are fighting the occupation,” said Khaled Hussein, 20, who like his friend Samir, is unem...

We can cut through all the distractions. Is it ok to bomb civilian populations in which so-called terrorist operatives are embedded when these operati...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-48521788. Alabama mayor suggested 'killing out' gay people "The only way to change it would be to kill the pr...

The stuff you raised is largely irrelevant. The stated justification for the strikes is Israel defending itself against attacks on its soldiers and ci...

Source? According to this (quoting the Israeli ministry for foreign affairs) it's roughly 1,000 since 2021. The IRA killed a similarly large number in...