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This reply to you was three hours ago: So, you've been refuted on that.

You responding to me on page 1. And on page 2. Etc. Are you ok?

From page 1.

I know. As if we didn't just have the conversation where I was arguing that attacks on civilians were wrong. He just forgot. Won't be taking that bait...

His last comment has convinced me you are right. On to the rest of you, you've argued Israel's actions are justified. I have established that the IRA,...

Don't troll here. We both know I never said I support attacks on any community. In fact, the only thing I've done here is argue against attacks that a...

I don't think he or the others realize that they're racists, or Islamophobic, or bigoted in whatever way, part of what's so pernicious about it, but u...

Bitconnect, from your own statements, you are happy to defend a white so-called terrorist group while you consider an Arab so-called terrorist group w...

"As well as its campaign against the security forces, the IRA became involved, in the middle of the decade, in a "tit for tat" cycle of sectarian kill...

Your argument now is that the IRA didn't kill civilians or didn't target civilians as in the Birmingham pub bombings or Enniskillen? Because they did....

I'll keep asking the question until one of them has the guts to answer it

Yes, most Israelis are Jewish, so what? My thesis above is that Palestinians are non-white and that's a significant factor in why their deaths are mor...

What's truly anti-semitic imo is the presumption that being Jewish defines your character is such a way that you must support the actions of Israel's ...

Not convinced. Sure, there are political reasons for the British not to have bombed Ireland or the Spanish, Catalonia, but it begs the question to bri...

Let's get them out of the closet.

Generally Accepted: Israel has a right to defend itself Generally Accepted: Britain has a right to defend itself Generally Accepted: Israel has a righ...

Final point, if the British had been carrying out (intentionally or otherwise) civilian massacres resulting in, effectively, collective punishment for...

We are more or less compelled to move with the zeitgeist, no? When I started posting in PF, for example, I didn't take sexism particularly seriously. ...

"We're sorry about those dead children but the IRA were using them as human shields and we had no intention of blowing them into little bloody pieces"...

The opposing sides in the troubles hated each other but there wasn't the same level of dehumanization. It would have been absolutely inconceivable for...

So, you're betting I'm wrong about you being right and I'm betting you're right about me being wrong about you being right, right?

As long as we're not funded by Hummus, I don't care. Hate that stuff.

Fair bellwether. It topped (unless it makes a miraculous recovery) just about at the most recent post there a month ago.

You may, quite possibly, have been right about this all along.

I don't know, but we do get these types of threads every few years. On the old forum too. So, it could be a "remember the good old day's" phenomenon. ...

The debate now, as usual, (and I'm also guilty of this myself) has largely turned into "Israel is an occupying force murdering its victims" vs "Hamas ...

Israel's defenders on this thread (and in the media) have one major play, equivocating between "Israel has the right to defend itself" and "Israel has...

Hamas persecutes innocent Palestinians. Therefore, why can't Israel kill them? I mean if you're against Israel's disregard for the lives of Palestinia...

I protested it in London. I'll just presume this is a sardonic barb. Riiiight?

I think we're up to 95% of the killing being done by the Israelis now and rising. But they could kill every single Palestinian, man, woman and child a...

Reminder of the topic: No doubt many Muslim countries do terrible things. And no doubt there are anti-semites around, some of them on the left, some o...

I see.

How can you partake in the ethical argument if this is your stance though? Aren't you just saying you've picked a side and that's it?

Both of you will need to stay on topic. You can start your own thread about purported anti-semitic left-wing Corbynism if you wish. This thread is spe...

As is anyone who unashamedly supports one side on an ethical issue because of who they are rather than what they do. And I presume the absurd attempte...

I'm genuinely sorry about your situation. I don't support Islam or any other religion and am very anti-fundamentalist. To me, that's not the issue her...

Here's a simple ethical point supporters of Israeli actions should address. In "defending" themselves against the Palestinians, what are the limits in...

You brought in information absolutely irrelevant to the thread. The only reason to do so apparently to attack Muslims. Don't do that again. On a wider...

Ah, I see, you're an Islamophobe. Some of us have no difficulty condemning these types of things based on the idea that they're wrong not on who's doi...

You're really losing it now. Israel's biggest supporters are American Christians. Anyway, done with you. Anyone who supports terrorist attacks on chil...

99% of the killing is done by Israel. 99% of the children murdered are murdered by Israel. The idea that's just defending themselves from the vastly i...

Just want to point out what an insult it is to Jews, including very many Israeli Jews, to presume they must, by definition, support these terrorist at...

Your argument is that not supporting Israel while they are doing this is anti-semitic. /uploads/resized/files/gv/y788af6ngy4c3cxb.png You are either t...

I suspect he's a Hamas propagandist parodying the enemy. It's brilliant.

A thread based on the premise of "Israel killing civilians" will and should elicit moral stances. You're not going to be allowed to use it to jump on ...

Off-topic posts like this will be deleted in future.

I wish I could tatto over every comment in this thread the fact that whatever your view is on who started this or who the most intransigent or unreaso...

I believe the surviving baby is Hamas too, so they should probably go in and finish the job. Like, literally this is the logic of apologists like @"Bi...

Of course Israel was just defending itself against those terrorist children in the refugee camp. The bombers did nothing wrong. Just ask @"BitconnectC...

"The baby was found clutching his dead mother’s chest when the first responders in Gaza dug him out from underneath the rubble of a three-storey build...