Apollodorus

The Athenians took Socrates to court for offending their Gods. So, it wasn't just Euthrypho, that's how people saw things in that particular time and ...

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When I first read the Euthyphro, I had already read the Republic and other dialogues, so I was familiar with the forms, etc.. But for some strange rea...

That tends to be my view too. If we leave aside the issue of which side murdered more people than the other side, it seems to me that this was simply ...

This is what Prof Lloyd Gerson says on the subject: “… we may assume that, owing to Aristotle’s testimony, Plato when he wrote Euthyphro, believed in ...

I used to love horror movies when I was a kid but later they didn't scare me any more so they all started to just look silly and I gave up on them. Bu...

Well, that's exactly how they used to see it. There was a council of gods ruled by a supreme God as can be seen from the OT: The LORD is greater than ...

Well, we can never be 100% sure but it certainly seems 100% consistent with Platonic method and thought. Personally, I can't think of any other readin...

Yes, but some may argue that they are all foreigners, so they don't count. Well, you've just appealed to the authority of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin,...

Day by day? You'll be done watching it in about six years then. Anyway, who's winning?

And sometimes we talk about Marx. Not "diffenent". Same subject.

Aha, you mean like yourself. I cannot but concur then. You are soo right and soo bright, you know.

Says who? Plus, @Trinidad has been banned. You're talking to yourself.

So, is your argument that we should have no self-confidence and that if we do we are "Islamic"? Would you mind expanding on the logic of that?

Yes, of course there is philosophy. Cogito ergo sum. That's why Plato introduced the concept of ideas. Without ideas we go braindead. Even mathematics...

I think so too. In most cases it's just some people trying to make money out of you. And of course, ads are also used to manipulate people for politic...

Of course in philosophical terms God is an idea. But it is an interesting idea that can inspire people to think and do good things. Plus, what else is...

I never said that I agree with everything that @Bartricks says or does. But he does make some good points that people may find worthwhile considering....

I agree. We certainly have powers of intuition and reason. All we need to do is use them. Ideally, this is what philosophy is supposed to teach us to ...

Maybe he can. But if he has no reason to do so, why should he? So, he doesn't.

Yes, but you keep forgetting that there are many definitions of God. If you are talking about 1st-century CE Roman Empire, for example, then "omnipote...

I can't say I'm exactly weeping, but well done. :up:

Or an all-providing nanny as some think. I definitely agree that God is under no obligation to be good at all times and in exactly the same way people...

Unfortunately, that often is the way things tend to go if you are not careful. In my case, I think that knowledge of traditional Platonism has saved m...

And nor should they. Maitreya definitely reminds me of Theosophy. So, it isn't entirely surprising that not many take him seriously. Although, I can e...

I beg to differ. ?????? skepsis is a noun. "Investigate" is a verb. If it is the verb you are talking about, it would be ????????? skeptomai. ????????...

The concept of one God over many did arise in a polytheist context, but I believe it is also discernible in monotheism, though in a slightly different...

Good question. But do they have to be reconciled?

I agree that if there is a God, then presumably he is omnipotent. But I don't see why he must be omnibenevolent. Even if he is omnibenevolent, I think...

It looks like @Trinidad has been banned from the forum. But I tend to agree with your statement. I'm just not entirely sure about "omnibenevolent". Go...

What logical necessity is there for all gods to be "omnipotent" and to all want contradictory things at the same time? I think it is perfectly possibl...

I was wandering if anyone has thought of Tibet? Millions of Tibetans have been murdered by the Chinese regime ever since the Maoists invaded their cou...

What Socrates actually said was: “When I heard these things I pondered them like this: what ever is the God saying? And what riddle is he posing”? He ...

Me too. But I think China has behaved despicably and should be held to account. Organizations like the China Tribunal are doing a good job exposing th...

Well, you can't always keep everyone happy. Sometimes you need to make tough choices. But Socrates and Euthyphro have agreed that piety is "to be of s...

Words or concepts have different levels of meaning depending on the area of application. On a social level, piety is worshiping the Gods, being a good...

Correct. That's why proper scholars point out time and again the importance of understanding the precise meaning of words in the Greek original.

Thanks for that. I think I have included that in the comment I just posted now.

It is the principle that guides our actions or standard by which we measure them. Piety is defined by Socrates as "that which is of service to the God...

What do you think of the Euthyphro discussion? https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/11182/euthyphro

Concisely put, what we see in the Euthyphro is not that Socrates wants Euthyphro to give up the concept of piety. On the contrary, he wants Euthyphro ...

Thanks for the quotes. I would like you to consider the following. Euthyphro makes the following key statements regarding piety: 1. Zeus, the supreme ...

You're in the right place then. "Neo-Platonism" is a modern term. Platonists tend to see their philosophy as one system with different currents.

I think Socrates is taking issue with wrong interpretations of piety, not piety itself.

I tend to see the hierarchy as Platonic and the Kabbalah as influenced by Platonism, possibly via Islamic philosophy and Sufism. But I agree that ther...

I'm quite intrigued by how people think so I like reading religion, philosophy and psychology. I think Platonism is closest to Christianity and the mo...

Very interesting. I happen to have similar interests myself, though I am trying to keep an open mind and not go down too many rabbit holes, at least n...

Yes. Philosophers and would-be philosophers. Some of them seem to jump down rabbit holes and go so far down that they never come back up. So, what mad...

Is that your personal experience? Do you play sports and meditate? And who or what do you think it is that does those things?

If you put it that way, then you are probably correct. I have no reason to doubt that I exist. So, I don't doubt and don't reason about it. What about...