Apollodorus

This is made crystal clear by the text and ought to be beyond dispute. Unfortunately, Fooloso4 has a long history of making claims for which either (1...

Is it really an "idea" though? I'd say that in most cases it is more like a sense, feeling, or experience. Of course, the "self" can be conceptualized...

Well, the family unit was regarded as absolutely central to Ancient Greek society, and women philosophers were no exception. “The central images in Di...

I tend to be kind of dubious about the system serving as an incentive for producing "better" posts. There must be other ways of doing that. And if the...

Determining "what kind of Platonist you are" seems to be part of the problem. According to some, Socrates had his own "philosophy" that is to be caref...

Good question. I think that intelligence might be the key to the answer. Living beings distinguish themselves from inanimate objects through the fact ...

I think dialectic is a strange and elusive thing that can mean different things to different people. Sometimes it may be difficult to agree on a defin...

:grin: Well, life and human psychology can be complex at times. There isn't much we can do about it. We exported Marxism to Russia and the Russians ex...

The key concept is ??????? methexis, participation or sharing in the Forms: Things exist by virtue of their participating in their distinctive being o...

Correct. The soul is that which imparts life to the body in the first place (105c - d). Without the soul there would be no body.

I'm not saying it should be benign in this case. On the contrary, as every political entity, including nation-states, are motivated by self-interest, ...

But are pro-choicers not also Christians?

So, would you say that the main dividing line is between pro-Choicers and Christians?

That sounds very open minded to me. And it seems that your mind hasn't fallen out - not yet in any case. So you must be doing something right ....

Sure. I have no problem with that at all.

I'm not entirely sure what the deal is in practice, but I don't want to be a spoilsport. So, yes.

I must agree on the poverty of arguments bit. On both sides. Unfortunately, different people have different levels or degrees of knowledge and underst...

What country is that if I may ask?

Well, I don't want to have the last word, so I am currently unable to say anything. Besides, I am busy studying Straussianism .... :wink:

I doubt that anyone would object to dialectic. However, there is no logical or philosophical prohibition against drawing conclusions, however temporar...

That's my point, too. At least Jesus didn't fall from his horse. Other than that, as I say, same difference. :wink:

Sure. But there are some who might think "Marx or Stalin is coming out of the sky on a white horse. I KNOW this is true". Same difference, no? Inciden...

Absolutely right. And what shall we say of those whose mind is so small that it can easily "fall out" and, God forbid, become lost without trace? :win...

I think guilt is something that all people experience in some form or other. As for "tingling sensations", I somehow find it difficult to see what cou...

Yes, you do sound like the kind of person that would have heard of a number of therapies, not just that one. As for myself, I'm too busy discussing Pl...

Good question. I guess if it's an atheist forum then there would be a natural tendency to keep reinforcing the atheist position? I think philosophical...

I'm not talking about your opinions. I was pointing out that you repeatedly asked me to show where the dialogue says that the Sun is a God when I had ...

No one disputes that there is some disagreement on certain points of textual interpretation. However, when you say things like "the dialogue doesn't s...

There is no need for my "opinions" to convince anyone. They are the mainstream view already and have been for a very long time! It is your opinions th...

Sorry but you seem to have some comprehension problems there. I am not talking about "poets". I am talking about Socrates making literary images of de...

This is not said in the dialogue. On the contrary, Socrates and Cebes agree that the immortality of soul has been proved: This conclusion is reaffirme...

Exactly. Religious people do not think that when making images of deities they make the deities whom the images represent. Otherwise said, Socrates ma...

Well, if the Republicans are a political party, then presumably there is a political position somewhere like conservatism, capitalism, anti-socialism,...

Is that a joke or do you really mean that wage gap is a myth?

I agree. I think what tends to happen is that extremists start with some idea (like the Communist Manifesto) that sounds good on paper and that appeal...

Making images of something means making images of the objects represented, not making the objects themselves. It is important to understand the differ...

Incidentally, concerning your claim that according to Ibn Sina, Plato “concealed secrets in parables and images”, the fact of the matter is that the "...

This is what you are implying. Here is your statement from page 12 to refresh your memory: 1. Socrates’ arguments for the immortality of the soul do n...

That's what I meant. You get taken in by something only if and to extent that you give it the power to do so. But that still doesn't make China a beni...

Socrates answers that question in the affirmative: And: Socrates clearly states that the soul is immortal and urges his companions to have confidence ...

"Making" is not the same as "making up". There is no logical necessity for a person who makes speeches about Gods to either (1) disbelieve in Gods or ...

You are confused. Of course the soul is special, being unlike anything else. The comparison is made with certain qualifications. Otherwise no comparis...

If you want to invent things that are not in the original text and believe in your own inventions, then go ahead. But in that case don't expect anyone...

More Straussian straw men! Making stories about the Gods may not entail the existence of Gods, but it may entail belief in the Gods described in the s...

That's exactly why Britain's Fabian Socialist leaders described socialism as a "business proposition". The Fabians presented themselves as a compromis...

I think "movement" is change in sensory perception, especially, but not exclusively visual perception. What we really perceive are invisible particles...

It isn’t “just as plausible” but far more plausible (and logical) if we read the text carefully. I think that point was already settled at page 13: - ...

Right. So "again and again" is not in the Greek text! And neither is "as if they were magic charms". The text simply says "sing to oneself". And the v...

Well. if there is "speech about the Gods", then presumably there are Gods to speak about. Plato compares the Good to the Sun. The Sun is a God in Gree...

It definitely isn't a reference to mantrams. It is a Greek expression similar to singing a lullaby to a child to soothe them and is perfectly consiste...