Leghorn

I don’t know if this contributes to the discussion, but I think there is a distinction between “true” and “false” suicide. A true suicide is committed...

Apparently you can’t use emojis unless you have given money to the forum. Didn’t know this before now.

Sposed to be a crying/laughing emoji inserted in there Tom—but it didn’t take.

What if The World is the internet?

What do you call The Philosophy Forum?

But the way we look at the world has been determined by modern philosophy. You can hear it’s echoes in the language. For example, when we speak of our...

This is the same teaching Allan Bloom made so many times, guided by Leo Strauss: a common-sense awareness of the phenomena is necessary before you can...

That is my biggest caveat against evangelical Christianity: all you’ve got to do is “repent” of your sin, which means you can sin all you want to...as...

I would say a loner is someone who “tends” to be alone, whether they prefer it or not @"hypericin". @"tim wood", I would say it is obvious that a pers...

@"jorndoe" Problem is, it is easy to say concerning “hard” sciences like say math and physics, that the mathematicians and physicists should have the ...

Would you say homelessness is a form of free-riding? It can be, when a man panhandles, begs for his money or food, but it isn’t necessarily so... ...I...

I disagree with this premise: You paint all these things to look like dire consequences when not all of them are. I think everyone would agree that st...

This sentiment encapsulates the Enlightenment: if poets and philosophers become professors and Nobel-laureats, then their vocation and avocation becom...

Well, I graduated from Podunksville University myself, and we didn’t use big words like epistemology and ontology and such; we talked about the everyd...

The problem with these discussions, as with so many in this forum, is that they are so abstract, and use abstruse and abstract terms, like immanent an...

After its destruction he had it melted down and poured into the river, whence he forced the ppl to drink. The gold had been taken from the ears and of...

I think this history far precedes Christianity, since we know that Socrates was put to death for impiety, and Israelites were condemned for making the...

Or can spirituality exist on an individual basis? Or does it rather require the support and participation of the community? If the latter is true, we ...

So how is it then preferable? Because when regimes are founded on their separate gods it leads to war? Would the world be a better place to live if th...

I don’t remember hearing that Strauss ever became very wealthy. Bloom points out that the modern professorship is the free lunch that Socrates asked f...

Do you read what Socrates says, or what Plato says that Socrates says?

This was not Strauss’ own opinion. From Bloom’s encomium to him: “He was able to do without most abstractions and to make those readers who were willi...

@"Valentinus" Btw, I think that is the only occasion in the Republic when Socrates refuses to answer to a request of his interlocutor, and the interlo...

This might explain why Deploradorus flinched when I brought up the topic of Jesus. In an earlier thread, I made a comparison b/w Socrates and Jesus, n...

I think he would be more offended by you calling him “Foolo” than me calling him Morosophos; indeed, I have called him that very many times, and he ha...

Oh, if it’s “Straussianism”, then it’s bad, eh Deploradore? This is just another example of your ad hominem attacks.

@"Apollodorus" Morosophos’ argument may be “ad populum”, but the “populum” he cites are respected scholars, interpreters and translators. Your argumen...

That it makes Plato sound like a tyrant, O Deploradorus, is your own prejudice, not that of the translators. And why you use the term “indiscriminatel...

Here is Godfrey Stallbaum’s explication of this passage: “‘Tis an oun hemin—‘ Verba sic inter se cohaerent : tis an oun hemin mechane genoito, pseudom...

Have some scholars interpreted the metaphor of being led out of the darkness and opinion of the cave into the light of the natural sun as a migration ...

How, dear fellow, can you read Plato, a most subtile and opaque writer, on his own terms, when you cannot even read me, a most crass and transparent o...

So since Socrates 1) prays to the gods, and 2) believes in salvation, it follows that he prayed to a god for salvation after his conviction? Is that w...

You quoted my words, and they are before your eyes, and yet you seem not to be able to make out the last two: “for salvation”. Don’t I deserve then to...

I wouldn’t boast about resisting a temptation which I did not resist. I am scarcely at all familiar with “Straussian hermeneutics,” for I have barely ...

Well, I DID attempt to answer this question in my previous post, but you obviously either didn’t notice I was answering, or just ignored it. So, I wil...

Do you mean that Socrates’ frequent—I almost said “reminders”—repetitions of different phrases meaning that what was being said was only spoken of mig...

My apologies. I thought you were saying that Socrates’ repetition of phrases meaning that these were “things said” only indicated a certain idiom of s...

That’s exactly my point! Any resemblance to a common “manner of speech” all of those four phrases have would have to be based on the fact they share t...

By “a manner of speech” are you referring to a formulaic expression, like, “Let me be (very, perfectly) clear,” or “At the end of the day,” or “It was...

Why would he suggest it is possible that death is like a dreamless sleep in the Apology? I quote from West’s translation at 40c. Socrates speaks: “Let...

But these are Timaeus’, not Socrates’ words. I suspect the reason is more likely this: “But why, then, do some enjoy spending so much time with me? Yo...

O Morosophos, do you assert that distancing yourself from something is the same thing as denying it? Does not Socrates in that passage ridicule Anaxag...

What signs of Socrates’ piety would you accept as proof then of his belief or disbelief in god? confession from his own lips? But those lips have been...

Those were the two formal charges. But Meletus goes further: at 26c-d (Thomas G. West’s translation), Socrates asks him: “...Or do you assert that I m...

I reread the Apology not long ago, and if I remember correctly, during his trial, Socrates WAS charged with atheism...some of you who can retrieve the...

The city doesn’t protect the interests of the philosopher, whether it be just or unjust. Leaving aside the latter, even in Plato’s Republic, the ideal...

He is certainly not avoiding persecution by not going into exile, which would have been a way of avoiding it. But can we say Socrates is not hiding so...

Correction: change my “former” and “latter” for each other.

I would amend this statement by striking from it the consecutive words, “the city and”. Socrates considered philosophy the highest way of life, and na...