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seems to hold a position very similar(the most similar, I think) to my own.

I remember that several different ones ended similarly. You do not seem to remember that the above ends here:Either propositions exist in their entire...

It does not end well for the position Banno is arguing from/for.

Well, as we both know, our positions sharply diverge at that point. Maybe, just maybe, we will bridge that divide one day. :wink:

The underlying topic is conscience experience(consciousness). If language less creatures can have conscious experience too, then an adequate account o...

I personally found the parts that , , and were discussing to be quite interesting... the modeling portions.

Mww uses Kantain terminology and framework.

I'm trying to quine conscious experience, thought, and belief... :wink:

Then anger is neither private, nor ineffable. Qualia are(by definition). Therefore, anger is not qualia.

Click on my avatar, then on my discussions. There are several OP's and discussions that you would find interesting. The titles are indicative of the s...

No. Elusive... perhaps depending upon method. Not too difficult. What they can actually be is determined, in part, by virtue of their own existential ...

Surety is not the sort of thing that has a spatiotemporal location, so the question doesn't make sense as written. Can you reword it so that I underst...

Sufficient reason to believe that other creatures' conscious experience is different from our accounts thereof ought be fairly uncontentious... no?

If cat's can have conscious experiences of drinking Maxwell House coffee from a red cup without the color of the cup ever being distinguished and subs...

By the way, there's quite a bit that can be ascertained by that cat post than may seem at first blush, particularly regarding how our own experience i...

My apologies... I suppose I could have been a bit clearer. Nice to have a Kantian around to take notice of such details! :wink: I meant experience dri...

Coming from someone who claimed to have taught me how to use the word "pre-theoretical", all the while ignoring the remarkable difference between thei...

Indeed, and had you been reading and/or listening to my efforts in our exchanges, that should not have come to surprise you. I've certainly never deni...

You guys/gals enjoi! :point:

I would argue against Dennett.

Now we're saying that ideas aren't language dependent? :brow: Weird.

And is the argument that sets exist in their entirety prior to our naming and descriptive practices?

Coming from someone who advocates for the use of "qualia"... ...that's a tad bit ironic if it's meant to be a critique.

According to???

If you say so.

Are linguistic constructs based upon subject/object ontology. That ontology, that dichotomy, that linguistic framework is garbage.

Cats can even have a conscious experience of drinking Maxwell House coffee from a red cup without ever experiencing it as such. If she drinks the coff...

More than that... :smile:

:up: I loathe the idea that certain very useful apt terms must be tied to certain philosophical positions and the problems that those positions lead t...

And... social bonding is not innate. These are not mutually exclusive.

Which parts of what counts as being angry is established by social convention?

Sure. Some folk can imagine things being different than what they think they already are, or what they are. Others just start doing stuff without havi...

Sure there are. However, there are none that are completely new. Knowledge is accrued.

I have no idea what creativity is.

Well, not at all really when in came to the impeachment proceedings, particularly regarding the majority leader publicly confessing that he could not ...

What about them? Social bonding clearly is not innate, let alone whether or not it is an emotion. Love? I'm pretty much along the lines of a Spinozist...

It should show up in discussions of meaning... because meaning most certainly transcends the individual and/or community. Naturalism doesn't seem to m...

Hmmm... and if the mind is in part, physical? :wink:

Nevermind the tax rate of the wealthy in the good 'ole days...

The only incumbent to ever lose without a primary challenger, if memory serves me right, and what I was taught once was true.

Interesting post. I'm left with the impression that you and I both hold that fear is the only innate emotion.

Sure, with the introduction of language use, we can talk about and/or compare past and present coffee tasting, black cats, and white mats, and that's ...

Thanks. The same thing I've been saying for the better part of ten years. :wink: Banno and a few others around here and elsewhere(mostly academics) ha...

Fair enough. Conscious experience of tasting bitter Maxwell House coffee from a red cup... So, the red cups are external, the biological machinery is ...

I've already answered the question of what all conscious experience consists of. Meaningful correlations drawn between different things. I've accounte...

I mean draw correlations between different things.

See the edit, and it ought answer that first question. In short... No. I meant what I said. Yes. We can become conscious of the correlations we draw b...

They are meaningful correlations drawn between different things. They are what all conscious experience consists of. They are the basic elements there...

No. Simple, basic, primitive(if you like) conscious experience kan't be so difficult to understand. Not with today's knowledge.

Defend? Against what? Was there a valid objection to anything I've said somewhere that I missed? Are you claiming that red cups are not external, or t...